This is a digression, but many of the Richardson merchants, like Jonathan Kawaguchi, come from noble backgrounds. Therefore, among the distinguished guests staying in Japan, they are often said to have a status comparable to that of the embassy and are expected to ride horses as a must. However, they are not accustomed to horses. At that time, traveling by horse in England was limited to the nobility and aristocracy, so even receiving the blessings of Narahara, they cannot turn back at Hiyama Lake because it is not the horses that are the issue, but rather their inexperience. They rush to join the line of donkeys, and until the procession passes, the horses’ legs and hearts are in turmoil. The group of Richardson and others is supported by the foreign affairs officials who are driving the situation. They hoped to assist in the situation just before the ginger incident. They yield the road to the group at Shimogashikake, leading the Zokukawa subscription magazine, and are on the way from the royal villa. They have an experience that imposes terrible purification on them. To further improve from here, it is impossible, impossible, impossible with a thousand personnel of Yusuke’s Matsutake, and even with the super-sonic calculations of three NX names. What should we do!? The noise and confusion of this procession consumed the panicked horses, and they bear no guilt.
After this incident occurred.
“From my experience, when I see someone whose internal organs are exposed…”
“I thought, ‘They probably won’t make it, and I want to put them out of their misery soon,’ and that felt raw and terrifying.”
>>1
The former policewoman is like…
>>1
There was a story about the traffic department in Hakozume where they could only encourage people who were about to die by saying to hang in there, and they ended up seeing many of them off…
Well, to intimidate the shogunate and apply pressure, it really feels like taking along a Satsuma samurai.
I heard that at the time in the homeland, it was the side that was cut that was seen as bad, and they caused a troublesome incident.
Is that kind of response acceptable for the French minister?
>>6
The manners are wrong, but I can feel the respect, so it’s all good!
>>6
The samurai side doesn’t particularly think of reprimanding foreigners for their manners and etiquette.
It would have been a problem if you had entered the daimyo procession, but…
>>6
I think it’s already conveyed that you are taking off your hat without dismounting.
Since we are here as representatives of our country, it is probably unclear to both sides how much humility is appropriate.
If something from inside your body comes out, it can get contaminated with bacteria… you know…
It’s only natural to slash the damn foreigner who crashed into the parade of feudal lords.
Even though it’s foolish, it’s only natural to want to get a little involved since a civilian was killed in a foreign country…
It’s understandable to wonder why Satsuma cut off the foreigner in such a situation; was it out of spite?
Well, it seems there were circumstances like that, and Japan also had its shortcomings, like not including the Satsuma procession on the important queue list.
“Compared to ambassadors and others, they don’t understand the manners of horseback riding well, and even before reaching that level, they should realize what could happen if they rush into the lord’s procession.”
>>12
It is the horse, not them, that charges in.
>>29
Japanese horses are wild because they are not gelded…
I really can’t understand manners at all… there’s a range that can be tolerated by a generous spirit.
If you overlook this, you’ll be left with mud on your face!
It was a bad idea to ride a horse without being used to handling them.
It means that they are in a state of driving a car without a license, rather than just being a paper driver.
Therefore, rushing into the line of nobles is kind of like a minor act of terrorism.
I didn’t really understand how to deal with barbarians either.
From the modern example in the lower left, it looks like quite a hell from the perspective of the policeman, and it’s laughable.
>>19
This is clearly a case where an accident is bound to happen.
I laughed when someone said they thought that guy would screw up someday, whether they were an acquaintance from my home country or a relative.
For example, in modern times, it’s like the Prime Minister’s car.
It’s like crashing in with a moped.
>>22
Moreover, it’s an unlicensed foreigner who has come.
>>22
In their homeland of Britain, it’s like charging a horse into the queen’s carriage.
>>25
It seems that they were actually being defended like that in their home country.
>>22
“If you charge into a line of local nobility, you’re bound to die.”
It was pointed out to me, and I finally thought, “Oh, I guess that could lead to death…”
The foreigners who had already arrived in Japan understood the local rules and got off the horse, which was not allowed.
>>23
As expected of Harris’s subordinate.
Is it necessary to rephrase everything even though there are already examples in the image?
Was the claim about being utterly arrogant based on the testimony of the companion a fabrication?
Well, get off the horse! 😅
>>30
Why didn’t you dismount and cross…?
>>35
Satsuma person: “What the hell are you! Get out of the way and get down! (Gesture due to language barrier)”
Richardson: “Does that mean I should pass through the side? (The line is spread all the way across the width of the road, so there’s no space to get through.)”
Charging through the crowd on horseback and approaching the palanquin of a highly respected person → Satsuma is on the verge of exploding with anger.
“Satsuma person: ‘I’m telling you to get down!!'”
Richardson: “Are you saying we should turn back?” → Trying to turn back, but the surroundings are full of Satsuma people and the horse goes out of control.
Chess!!
>>30
New York Times response
Well, if you can’t go back, at least get off.
After this, I’m going to charge into the basket with a horse, am I stupid or what?
>>31
Well, it’s probably because they were foolish that they were cut down.
Of course, even horses are scared; they are elite samurai from the Satsuma domain.
If you understood the assassination incident, then this response of cutting off anyone who approaches is the only correct course of action, regardless of face.
I see, so that’s how it was… I understood, but the moment I saw the car analogy, I suddenly got angry.
In history textbooks, it was written that cutting foreigners is barbaric, but are you saying it’s different?
The burning of Mount Hiei is something else, isn’t it, Nobunaga?
No, that’s not it… it’s like a conversation.
I’ve never handled a horse before, but couldn’t I have gotten off and guided it to the side of the road?
I guess it means that they were such a beginner driver that they couldn’t even park properly.
From Satsuma’s perspective, there’s no choice but to cut it off.
The thread image is one thing, but this foreigner also has their point of view.
At the time, the New York Times commented, “The fault in this incident lies with Richardson. To act disrespectfully towards the principal nobility of Japan on the Tokaido, Japan’s most important road, was not permitted, not even for foreigners, let alone Japanese subjects. The treaty granted him the freedom to reside and trade, but it did not grant him the right to violate Japan’s laws or customs.”
Was it evaluated like this back then!?
>>44
This must have been quite something during a time when there was strong discriminatory awareness against Asians.
Shoki Lilid-san is perfect!
>>45
In terms of the absolute level of mistakes that should never be made, those beneath a higher-up person rank significantly higher than the higher-up person themselves…
Horses can be quite challenging for beginners, even just getting them to move forward while riding…
If the person riding suddenly conveys a strange movement, it might cause confusion and surprise.
There is no doubt that this is a mistake that cannot be normally followed.
This manga depicts Satsuma, Choshu, and the shogunate in relation to just about everything.
Everyone has their good and bad sides, so I’m writing from a perspective that reflects both.
I think this foreigner simply didn’t write in a one-sidedly rude manner.
If we miss this, the samurai will also commit seppuku.
It’s like a runaway car driven by a baby boomer.
This is being portrayed quite defensively, somewhat obscuring the actual situation.
>>51
Recently, we need to protect animal welfare.
If that’s the case, then why do old church writings and even present ones only mention that foreigners were killed by people from the Edo period without touching on that matter…?
>>52
It’s probably because textbooks only write about the facts that have happened.
Well, textbooks in general don’t really write about which side is at fault regarding events that occurred, right?
>>53
When it comes to writing about good and evil in textbooks, it can become a huge problem…
The manga in the thread actively defends Naosuke Ii’s style as well…
I wonder if there was someone who was being harshly criticized instead.
Well, that’s the kind of manga it is.
Is it okay for a person who exudes charm not to get off?
>>56
If the other person were a general or an emperor, it would be rude not to dismount, but since it’s just an uncle who isn’t even a feudal lord, I’m unsure how to judge.
Sankin-kotai was an event to extort the shogunate, huh…
>>57
In Satsuma, it’s every five years, so the movement between the homeland and Edo is also like that.
>>57
It’s like a form of extortion right from the tribute.
If a Japanese person were to suddenly rush into the procession of a foreign dignitary and get shot and killed, I think Japan would certainly criticize that, right?
>>62
Moreover, that country is also a chief somewhere in Africa…
I still feel like this is bad.
>>62
However, it can also be judged as a good opportunity to intervene, so on the surface, I will complain and get angry.
The problem is that they beheaded them after they were subdued…
If you’re cutting in where it gets intense on-site, then it would make sense internationally as an excuse.
In modern times, if someone were to charge into a procession of politicians mounted on a horse, outside of Japan, shooting would probably be the first option.
>>65
How many people are daimyos… Are they like local governors?
The Prius driver crashed into the line of kindergarteners.
The kindergarten child was from Kagoshima, so they counterattacked the old man and cut him down.
Since I was a preschooler, I didn’t take any lives until then.
I used to think, “Get off the horse!” when I was a child.
No matter what country it is, if a foreigner charges at the lord of that land on horseback, it is only natural for them to be killed.
Rather, if a Japanese person does something badly overseas, they can’t complain even if the police shoot them!
I’ve often heard things like that, so I think when you mess up overseas, it ends up like that.
If I were to ram a car in front of a local governor’s car, I think it would normally be considered terrorism.
Even if you didn’t dismount, if you took off your hat and said something in broken words, I think there’s basically no reason to push back.
>>78
One can somewhat infer that the other person holds a certain status, so if you were to get angry and pull them down from the horse while saying “how dare you!” that would be rude in itself…
It would be good if we can show that we’re both doing our part properly.
No matter the reason, it is inconceivable for a nation-state to remain silent when its citizens are killed in another country.
It’s the fault of those who can’t properly respond to it.
Well, this is because “this guy is stupid.”
Even if I say something that everyone already understands.
It just gives me a bad feeling.
It’s depicted in the most favorable way possible.
Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the matter, if one’s own citizens are killed, it will simply be used as a bargaining chip in diplomatic negotiations.
>>83
Britain: As compensation for this incident, £100,000 and the return of the body. ❤
Satsuma, I don’t like it…
Anglo-Satsuma War
>>95
The 100,000 pounds were paid by the shogunate. For some reason, after that, the British fleet came to Satsuma Bay, and the people who were killed by the Shimazu had wives and children, so several thousand pounds were also paid as child support. Satsuma said it had nothing to do with us.
>>110
Satsuma-kun!?
>>115
After that, we ended up in a draw, so let’s get to know each other better ♥
>>110
“Oh, you want to do it? If the UK also takes a strong stance…”
Satsuma isn’t necessarily strong… but they play in a way that’s totally confusing.
That’s enough, let’s call it a draw…
By the way, I heard that you have a bad relationship with the central government? We can sell you weapons, what do you think? This leads to a business deal.
>>120
Diplomacy is amazing.
>>122
This part can happen because the information doesn’t reach them, so the people can’t act on their emotions.
Otherwise, you can’t make calculations, right?
>>120
Well, you know… it turned out fine in the end, but…
You did something similar in the New World and Africa too, right…?
>>123
Being geographically too far can sometimes be convenient…
>>120
Don’t incite civil unrest as if it’s as natural as breathing.
>>126
An empire where the sun never sets is scary after all.
>>128
Well, this is the reason for the decline of the empire, haha.
>>128
By the way, France allied with the Tokugawa Shogunate at the behest of Emperor Napoleon III.
>>136
Really? Is it just that you didn’t like Britain?
>>139
In the end, they were secretly negotiating with Prussia over the Ezo territory, along with the Edo shogunate and the Oshu United Clans Alliance.
>>139
Well, within the Edo shogunate, there was a trend of the heroic tales of Napoleon that were conveyed through the Netherlands.
>>126
It’s easier to take advantage of when they fight among themselves.
>>126
The most delicious thing in all times and places is the fisherman’s benefit.
According to textbooks, foreign visitors who encountered a samurai procession were treated with disrespect.
I have a memory that it was only written to that extent.
If someone charges in with a horse and carriage, then of course I’ll cut them down…
It’s the opportunity for Satsuma and Britain to get along.
>>85
Britain in this era is strange.
Satsuma has always been strange.
>>89
The weird ones all died in the Satsuma Rebellion.
>>99
Thank you, Segodon.
>>99
Unfortunately
The side that won is also strange.
>>102
“The image of ‘a soldier who is contemptible and arrogant’ has become associated with Satsuma.”
>>99
There were a lot of them around this time.
>>85
Thank you, England, for the delicious black pork.
The responses of other foreigners being recorded is also quite profound.
Not everyone else got a perfect score, but at least there was a common awareness that it would be serious if they made a mistake during the parade of feudal lords.
>>86
Even if we don’t fully understand what kind of group they are, it’s clear that they are armed and organized.
I know that it’s scary when you get angry.
>>86
The Japanese nobility is somewhat special, as it is like a knightly class that has become aristocratic.
I will never allow my honor to be tarnished.
I think people who came to Japan basically had that level of understanding.
Britain (please stop…)
Shogunate (please stop…)
Satsuma upper echelon (Please stop…)
>>88
After this, in this manga, the top-class smart characters are on the verge of complete panic, which is bad but also funny.
If you close your eyes, you’ll be half asleep and end up getting your stomach cut open.
In the past, Japan was said to be a barbaric country that would kill foreigners without question under its own rules, as this incident illustrates.
>>91
Well, that does make you want to demand extraterritorial rights…
>>91
Even if it’s not in Japan, this would probably be death penalty, right…?
>>108
What would happen if foreign individuals, who have different words and cultures, charged in on horses to join the vic girl at the ceremony?
>>91
If it follows the rules of your own country, then that’s fine, right?
The one who got cut off is not an ordinary person.
It was like a nuisance YouTuber by today’s standards, so I decided to crash the samurai procession.
>>93
What are you talking about?
I think the Namamugi Incident is a story that I want to chew over regarding the relationship between Satsuma and England afterward.
I thought it was a one-sided story where a foreigner who didn’t know common sense was cut down after crossing right in front of the line.
I was able to get close to a fairly important person’s palanquin…
No matter whether they look down on you or up to you, or whatever they think.
“You must not run into the inn of the local lord at your travel destination on horseback.”
Because normally, I’m aware of that.
>>100
Even if I don’t understand the atmosphere of a foreign country, I first consider what would happen if I did the same thing in my own country…
It’s the shogunate that wipes the butt of fools who don’t even properly handle post-incident responses…
>>106
Additionally, they covered the compensation costs, but Satsuma defaulted on them.
It was an unfortunate and terrible Pythagorean switch…
The problem is not that I killed him, but what happened after.
Even if I don’t understand the words, it’s clearly an armed procession that looks like local nobility or royalty.
You should know what would happen if you charge in on a horse…
I can’t say anything other than it was a reckless action, or rather, that I was foolish.
>>114
What I bumped into was a horse.
>>135
If you can’t control it, the rider will be punished… that hasn’t changed even in modern times.
>>144
The brakes weren’t working!
>>144
Where did the talk about knowing what would happen if you pushed it go?
>>152
So if you can’t handle it, get off your horse and deal with it.
“I couldn’t control it while riding and ended up crashing in, so of course that wouldn’t work.”
>>160
How do you dismount from a horse that you can’t control?
>>161
Get off while you can control it.
Before the line comes in front of me.
Moreover, you haven’t been riding horses for long, have you?
>>166
“Are you telling me to sense the presence of the line and get off before it arrives?”
>>175
Of course, where are you looking while riding a horse? Are you blind?
The line coming from the other side doesn’t appear right in front of me in an instant.
Choshu is the same, but being able to act as one pleases while the damage goes to the shogunate is just too beneficial.
Satsuma became friendly with Britain and ended up having to pay the Tokugawa shogunate £100,000, resulting in a loss.
Is it acceptable to treat Hisamitsu’s procession, who is the son of the daimyo but has not become a daimyo himself, as a daimyo procession?
By the way, 100,000 pounds at that time is several tens of billions of yen, probably around 30 billion.
The Edo Shogunate would indeed be a cause for its own downfall.
>>125
Moreover, the exchange rate at that time was clearly a malicious life hack…
This is a story about the journey back from Edo.
On the way to Edo, I encountered foreign horse riders as usual.
Hisamitsu complained to the shogunate, saying, “Rather than trying to avoid us when we pass by, those guys spread out side by side and block the way. I tell my subordinates to forgive them because they’re foreigners and don’t know the customs, but if they’re too rude, I won’t be able to keep my subordinates in check, you know? Make sure to inform each country properly.”
The person who was killed was just a merchant, so England made a profit…
Sell weapons to the weak and support them!
Sell weapons to those who are weak and spirited to support them!!
>>131
Weak…?
Well, ultimately the one who takes responsibility will be the highest up, but did the shogunate actually pay the compensation…
The people who did nothing until the foreigner came right in front of the lord…
Thanks to this, Satsuma shifted from the pro-imperialism and anti-foreign movement to realizing that Britain is strong and decided to join the pro-opening faction.
>>147
A handshake with tomorrow’s enemy today.
I like the sense of karma in the fact that the ancestor of Hideki Tojo was beaten by Satsuma, which was allied with England at that time.
What’s really terrible is that I was at a level of stupidity where even acquaintances and family thought I would eventually mess up.
>>150
Right before that, another person dismounted, stepped aside, took off their hat, bowed their head, and let it pass.
Seriously, you’re a pure 100% idiot…
Britain is thinking that they might be able to take over the country by using this to make unreasonable complaints, sell weapons, and stoke internal strife whenever there’s an opportunity.
Is it the brake? I’m pressing it… ?
If you charge in on horseback during a march in the UK and head towards an important figure, it’s only natural to get arrested; it’s not simply a matter of being inexperienced, but a lack of thought and awareness of the situation. I mean, if it were in the UK, they would have done everything possible to avoid the procession, so weren’t they just underestimating Japan?
>>155
Isn’t it the case that what was trying to progress wasn’t a person but a horse? That’s what we’re talking about, right?
>>158
If the other party is a line in England, would it be acceptable for the horse to move forward just because of that? Wouldn’t you do everything you can to stop or avoid it? That’s what I mean.
>>174
If it were easy to control a horse to the point where it would stop, then I wouldn’t be struggling.
A foolish foreigner has committed an outrage against the Satsuma potato samurai.
The potato samurai is getting angry.
For some reason, the shogunate was imposed with compensation payments.
It’s intriguing how history unfolds, especially with the potato samurai creating a new government.
In the end, it leads to the birth of a modern government, so I think it’s all just luck.
Putting aside the idea of further illustrating the analogy,
“A response that replaces ‘people returning home after being threatened’ with the queen is not sane.”
>>163
Which one…?
Well, if I suddenly dismount in a strange way, the horse might get confused and run wild…
After this, the Satsuma-British Alliance was formed, so history is mysterious.
In any case, if you can’t control it, it’s only natural to be punished.
Can’t the Satsuma domain work as hard as modern police to block traffic?
Later, Ito Yuzuki recalled that the British were not angry about the killing itself.
It’s said that the British were angry after the Satsuma samurai dismembered the corpse.
>>171
Even someone who has reached a position like Itou Sukeyuki might not fully grasp the true situation…
Mr. Richardson went out for a long ride for pleasure and encountered a procession of feudal lords. Feudal lords are raised with respect from their childhood. If Mr. Richardson was opposed to showing respect, then why did he not turn back or step aside at the roadside as strongly suggested by his more sensible companions? I knew this unfortunate man because he had to support the Shanghai consul’s measures, which imposed heavy fines for the brutal assaults he committed against his innocent laborers without any justification. He was one of those types that would have been termed Mohawks in Swift’s time. He is a type commonly found among the middle class in our country, characterized by a kind of fierce bravery typical of professional boxers, hardly restrained by any chivalrous instincts.
I don’t know the horse’s physique at that time, but it seems like it could jump down, although it might be difficult for the woman next to me.
>>173
It seems like they charged headlong into the procession coming from the opposing side while still on horseback, rather than just deciding whether to dismount or not?
It seems that the author’s lengthy excuses are included in the paperback.
There is overwhelmingly insufficient time and knowledge for each of us to make an effort to understand the other’s different culture.
Well, conflicts will arise.
Everyone says this is Richardson’s fault.
It’s not something you should follow strangely.
I thought it was quite rational for the person to warn, “Get off the horse!”
It looks like if you don’t immediately dismount your horse and bow your head by taking off your hat when you see the procession of the daimyo, you’ll be attacked!
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