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[Hyouge Mono] One of the standout problem scenes in the work.

Let me allow you to try out my favorite outfit.

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Having come to plea for the life of my nominal current master.

If your clothes are so crappy that I’d rather kill you than compliment you, that’s just a pathetic way to live.

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I’m kind of making a big concession.

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More than this

I make an effort.

Don’t let it happen…

Do it.

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This manga is rare in that it doesn’t feature a character awakening to become a super connoisseur at the end, but instead has a unique ending where they are executed.

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>>4

Well, isn’t it enough to stick to your own values without praising others?

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At a glance, it’s clear that the appearance gives off no intention of wanting to be praised.

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>>5

It’s precisely because the clothes do not match Sōji’s taste that I can test whether I am willing to obey.

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>>5

I don’t think I’m pretending about my hobbies, but you know from the beginning that it’s not the kind of taste that Souji usually appreciates, right, Your Highness?

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>>35

I’ll forgive you, so you should at least make that level of apology and compromise.

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Even if there is a sketchbook that Mitsunari found, if that one breaks…

It’s telling me it’s okay to be alive…

Even Hideyoshi would be finished as the ruler of the land if he were looked down upon…

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I understand you don’t want to take back the insults you wrote in your book.

If Rikyu had seen the scene, he would have changed his impression.

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Whether to bend one’s way of living or to devote oneself to aesthetics.

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But I don’t dislike the guy who died without being praised.

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>>9

If it were just my own life, that would be fine…

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If you’re going to praise the nouveau riche sense of the wealthy who rose up from the lower class, whether they’re farmers or local tyrants, then…

“If you go so far as to say, ‘I might as well die!!’ then the ruler has no reason to keep you alive.”

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This kind of sense makes it seem likely that they will perish in one generation.

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It was admirable to go to Hojo, correct your tendency to be arrogant, and bow your head to annoying newly rich fools to try to negotiate a truce.

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Body hair is unnecessary…

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I feel like the picture in the thread doesn’t quite fit the terms “nouveau riche” or “money-oriented”!

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You wrote terrible things about me in your old writings when you were being arrogant, but it’s different now, right?

Rikyuu is saying that you’ve changed your mind too… right? …What do you think of my fashion now?

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>>17

Like the emperor of the Tang dynasty

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Because it’s a monkey, it has worked hard up to this point.

If it were Nobunaga, he would say, “If it’s your true intention, don’t withdraw it,” and Ieyasu would not show any leniency towards the arts.

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Well, it’s like a question where the answer is obviously based on the premise of forgiveness…

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>>19

It looks suspiciously like it could be true because of the costume…

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If you bend yourself there, then you’re no longer Sanjo Soji…

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>>20

Aren’t you here to plead for your life, having made up your mind to bend yourself?

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>>22

“Now, evaluate my appearance.”

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>>24

…in clothing that is not suitable for the present time

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Not bending the knees in advance is a stance that should be learned in modern times.

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The monkey is kinder than I thought.

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>>23

While they were in the process of building it, the victim Hidenaga, who has fled, is saying to forgive for destroying the new house, and even thinking about saving Rikyu’s face… they responded in such a mature manner.

And it wasn’t conveyed.

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I messed up in the past, but please forgive me! Despite that, the guy who took it lightly has shown up, and it’s been revealed that he had previously published a book that harshly criticized me for other offenses.

Well, if you properly bend, I’ll forgive you… Hideyoshi is really kind, isn’t he?

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It’s precisely because of this costume.

I know that I don’t think it’s definitely good, but I’m asking anyway, and if I say it’s good here, I’m helping.

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For Hideyoshi, even if it’s a farce, it would be good to apologize in form.

I guess that was what you intended to settle for.

If I refuse that, I have no choice but to deal with it because it would set a bad example for those around me.

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>>29

From a position, it’s a really kind treatment, but it’s necessary to have them do something absurd at that point… and as a result, they end up being really resented, which is the sadness of a ruler.

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For Soji, it’s a matter of saying that if you offer up the most important thing you absolutely can’t give up, then he’ll forgive you.

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>>31

When I think about the choice between physically dying or having my heart die, it doesn’t really make much of a difference which one I choose!

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If you can bend it, I’ll spare your life.

If you bend it, you can no longer live.

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Hideyoshi was well aware that Hide-naga absolutely should not be killed!

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Even though I’ve gone this far and it’s understandable to be resented, it’s tough.

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If it were Rikyū or Gehi, they would definitely be able to evade it.

If someone says this is indeed Sōji Yamagami, then yes.

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>>39

Compared to those two who make a big mess after being clever, they were just too straightforward…

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>>39

Gehi fawns with their usual sweaty, gooey face.

Rikyū follows while dripping blood from his clenched fist.

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If this is Lord Oribe, I wonder if he managed to get through it quite well?

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If I said I’d forgive you if you licked my shoes, I made a big concession, but you didn’t lick them.

I have no choice but to kill.

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Become a road filth.

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If I’m looked down upon as the ruler of the world, then I have no choice but to kill.

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But since he was a man who did not offer superficial praise, there is also the aspect that his candid critiques have remained for future generations…

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The correct situation of “I have no choice but to kill you now.”

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If I were asked from the beginning if today’s outfit looks good, I think I could have given a compliment.

I wonder if I can’t back out after the harshly reviewed doujinshi of youthful folly was publicly read.

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It’s good that I can’t fake myself, but with everyone around me helping me out tremendously, I’ve been prioritizing my own feelings, resulting in cracks forming in many places, so hmm…

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>>49

Isn’t it the case that throughout the work, it’s not really about that kind of thing?

Rather than a taste for art, it is those who enjoy art.

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>>52

It was Rikyu who involved the entire country in his aesthetic and wreaked havoc.

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>>52

Rikyuu, due to his excessive insistence on his own ego, pushed his daughter to the point of death, saying that if she were his father, she should do this.

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You know, that’s terrible. Why don’t you just tell me the truth? It’s sad, you know?

I guess there’s no choice but to kill now.

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If it were Nobunaga from “Hyouge Mono,” there might have been a chance.

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>>53

It’s terrifying because I can imagine everything from smirking and laughing loudly to cutting without changing my expression.

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In this case, it’s rare that the monkey isn’t too bad.

It’s not bad, but Rikyū is way too upset.

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>>54

Ishida…

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>>54

For Rikyu, everything that obstructs his ideals is an enemy…

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It is probably because I have lived this way that I have captured the hearts of many people.

It’s heartbreaking that so many people are moving for the sake of pleading for mercy, both in the story and in real history.

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It’s wrong for someone to go out of their way to bring a head with its nose and ears filed down.

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I should have just honestly fought it out with Ishida and Rikyu.

Gehi laughs out loud.

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Ishida isn’t really at fault either.

There’s no other way to put it than the rust that comes from one’s own body.

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I felt that they were putting on a pose of concession, anticipating that they would not bend even if they were to execute.

It’s an unpleasant trust, but

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>>63

But I think the monkey didn’t give in and felt lonely.

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But it’s a much smarter question than “I’ll forgive you if you apologize.”

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When I look back, it seems that the term “effort” was also used during the time of Nobunaga’s assassination cover-up.

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If being a chikin is a common kink, then I’ll die!

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I came to beg for my life and have even received a request for mercy from my master, saying that I have repented.

Even a monkey couldn’t make more effort than that if it can’t even say a single compliment…

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If I had been told the details of the last chance’s questions, it would have been like Soji… and I might not have gone crazy with revenge yet.

Throwing just a head silently and gruesomely is really poor communication on Mitsunari’s part…

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I’m sorry, I’ve reflected on my actions, please forgive me…

I see… Try evaluating my fashion.

It’s super uncool.

Death penalty

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>>73

Is it a skit?

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>>79

Hearing that really pisses me off.

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>>82

You’re here to plead for your life, right?! Act like it, then!! It’s only natural!

However, thanks to sticking to my principles here, historically valuable materials were preserved, so it’s a victory for Sōji.

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By the way, Rikyu was making various things from bamboo at that time, but apparently he properly sent a letter to Hojo asking if he could use their bamboo.

“Hojo would be fine as a tea master of the realm! That’s a quite interesting response.”

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Just before this, I realized that there are various values! That’s why I’m doing this now…

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Even though I am a great sinner who has turned against my lord, I should be grateful to have my head returned.

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If you praise this work’s Hideyoshi, he will help you, right…?

Even with Rikyu, I persevered that much.

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To be honest, considering what I’ve done, if a monkey understands my intentions, I’ll forgive it, right? What it’s doing is really compassionate.

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Even Masamune is allowed to get away with such obvious monkey tricks…

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It’s hard for the prince around here not to smile at all.

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Right before this, I’m feeling great that the Hojo family reacts well to my sharp tongue! But that’s already no good.

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The effort mentioned here, is it about becoming ruthless (i.e., killing) or about allowing (i.e., not killing)?

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>>87

After Honnō-ji, was it ruthless? It’s probably the former, as it’s expressed in the same structure as saying effort.

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If you still insist on your own way after having made so many concessions,

There’s no choice but to kill…

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Your children will be trendy.

You should just say it in a fashionable way like that.

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In the general’s diary, I think Hideyoshi’s outfit is really cool.

I heard that there are some that are left behind.

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>>90

It’s really just a matter of personal preference…

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>>95

Well, you know… if you’re really a connoisseur, you want to think that your preferences are the best in the world, right?

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If it’s just the individual’s problem, then that’s fine too.

Why did you come here?

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>>91

It’s also smearing mud on the faces of Hide-naga and Rikyuu who got involved.

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This is not a personal exchange.

If you want to die already, then go ahead and die.

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“I won’t forgive you… Ishida Mitsunari…”

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>>94

…Do it!

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>>94

Also, by the way, Oribe-suke…

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Just because you can fit in this situation doesn’t mean you can mock the samurai again and be forgiven.

If you are going to be under me, this is a declaration that you should evaluate this as the standard moving forward.

Well, I’m alive, but it’s like I’m already dead.

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You were showing your willingness to submit just until now, right…?

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>>98

Since I came through the master’s connections, I’ll definitely pretend to apologize properly.

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I will strive to understand because there are many things I lack and do not recognize as good in my current self.

(Well, I guess you wouldn’t be able to understand even if you died in such a stupid getup.)

I wonder if something like this would have been forgiven…

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>>100

Masamune has a strong rebellious spirit, but he is forgiven for it…

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(I don’t have a golden vessel… It’s impossible unless I gather everything…)

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>>101

(If you push the concept to this extreme, it will take shape…!!)

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Even if they say it’s as good as dead, I’m here begging for that life to be spared…

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But in the long run, this is one of the destruction flags for Micchan and Toyotomi.

The monkey person probably had a good dream as a ruler until death.

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Not being able to even set up a pretext means that being killed is only natural, I suppose…

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At the point where one only complains about both old and new things, they are already finished as a cultured person.

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If it’s Lord Gehi or Yurakusa, they’d probably manage to cover it up in a good way.

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>>112

The difference in rank is just too significant…

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>>112

(This is embarrassing… but it’s not something I use, and it’s my first time experiencing this.)

It’s wonderful, and I can’t express anything more!

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>>114

I like the one made with that arrow because it’s easy to understand.

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>>116

The Aoi crest tray is nice too.

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>>129

It’s important to praise and nurture.

In later years, I think Hidetada will realize that he intentionally praised them at that time.

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>>116

I thought it might be more to my liking than Lord Gahi’s.

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>>134

I think that’s why I felt embarrassed!!

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Yurakuzai would carelessly throw away his soul if it meant survival.

Gebi is sweating profusely and his lies are obvious, but I’ll forgive him because he’s nodding in agreement.

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But Ishida Mitsunari, that guy will definitely become a source of trouble.

Even if you forgive, it somehow leads to arrogance.

Let’s test if you have changed your mind.

It might be precisely because I was told that…

You were already fully prepared to kill, weren’t you?

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The monkeys here really seem worn out as if they were once rulers of the world, which is also sad.

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The golden tea room is actually quite nice when you see it in person…

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>>119

The beauty of being illuminated by candles in a time when there was little light from the population truly struck me.

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>>122

When it shines glaringly, it’s vulgar, but in dim light, it has an elegance to it.

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>>119

Also, I learned from Nakajima Seinosuke’s explanation after the NHK broadcast that the golden tea bowl actually had modifications to prevent the user from feeling the heat of the tea by inserting wood between layers.

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Leaving value in names or blood is an incredibly significant matter that is unimaginable from a modern perspective…

Aren’t a lot of people bowing their heads for your life? Everyone is saying they want you to live, right? So isn’t it strange that you can’t bow your head in this situation?

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>>120

It’s a manga where a lot of idiots come out, saying there are things that can’t be bent even when weighed against that.

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Mitchan’s final change in this manga, while it’s deserved, is cruel.

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From Mitsunari’s perspective, it’s only natural to cut off the arm of the master.

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It’s not a scene where you’re stubbornly holding on even after being caught…

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In this manga, despite receiving consequences for their actions, there are many who are prepared to die anyway…

Hey… why is there someone who managed to escape without dying…?

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>>125

I only have my family background…!!

If I could become an Oribe that can compete with originality…!!!

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I really like people who are completely adored by those who love Mitsunari… I quite like their personality.

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The golden tea room did not have lights such as fluorescent lights at that time.

I’ve heard that the color impression is quite different, but I don’t know since I’ve never used it.

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“Wabi-sabi is hard to understand… This part resonates with most readers.”

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>>128

But I’m actually distracted by the thatched roof of the Nonobu residence; I have an eye for things, Ishida Jibu.

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A work that seems to represent a basic pattern of outcomes based on the karma accumulated in life.

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>>130

When you think about it, Hideyoshi’s end was fortunate.

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I feel like they might not have even had the intention to forgive in the first place.

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>>133

If I were to sell the people who distributed the pamphlets while bowing my head here, I would be nagged by Ishida Mitsunari, but it helped me.

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>>133

Killing someone after giving a response that aligns with their wishes only lowers your own standing.

If you had properly answered what Hideyoshi wanted, I would have forgiven you.

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>>133

Even if I personally had no intention of forgiving, there were plenty of reasons to forgive, such as my brother’s advice and my relationship with Rikyu.

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Ishida, who has harbored animosity towards the arts, struggled to engage with them in order to compete against his political rivals, but in the end, the outcome was such a tragic fate.

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Yeah, it’s just the worst here.

Isn’t it better for someone who stifles the budding desires of those wanting to create their own world to die?

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>>136

Rikyū’s response

Additionally, a boomerang that comes back to oneself.

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>>136

It’s being engulfed by the raging fire…

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In the early days, the sense of blue Gehii when they were dressed like primitive people and building tea rooms in the trees, right?

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>>137

You’re going too far, Oribe!

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>>61

In the end, Ishida himself has to face the consequences…

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However, what Ishida has done to get there is too awful!

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If it’s this Hideyoshi, if you show him your submission, he’ll properly spare your life, right?

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“I thought it might be an outfit that suits you.” If I had answered in a vague way like that, would you have forgiven me?

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>>153

You’re making fun of me, aren’t you?

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In this work, Hideyoshi was looking for a chance to reconcile with Rikyū, so if Sōji could use double talk, he would help him and intended to use that favor to restore his relationship with Rikyū.

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Hideyoshi was briefly saved at the end, but everything before and after that is terrible…

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It gives the impression that Souji has no choice but to die now…

“Even though I’m here to plead for mercy! How outrageous!” I can’t help but think that the anonymous person saying such things is really annoying.

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>>158

No matter what they say, it’s just coming from someone who belittles others to elevate their own opinions.

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>>165

Did it stick?

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Persimmons are the poison of phlegm.

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In this manga, Hidetada ends on a good note while maintaining the highest favorability from readers.

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This Hideyoshi really had a great character…

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It’s okay to lower yourself.

“Please let me continue to live and improve, as I still can’t understand.”

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>>162

Since I became aware of new values by living as a freeloader, I should have been able to say at least that much.

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It’s nice how Michi’s brother casually handles Rikyu’s goals…

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The end of Oribe, who reached his peak after accumulating failures and shame, is…

Perhaps my own passions have grown too large and started to affect others, making it impossible to simply be a tea practitioner.

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It’s clear that Ishida intends to kill…

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Coming here to plead for a stay of execution and then this—it’s not like I can just stick to my beliefs and look cool!

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It’s a choice to prioritize personal matters over the lord’s orders.

Ishida-kun’s lord is being ridiculed.

Ishida-kun probably has a terrible impression of it…

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The scars left by Akechi are too numerous in this world…

I understood and reached it before anyone else…!

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Among the many characters who throw away their pride and everything else for the sake of their passion.

It’s a rare type that prioritizes pride above all else.

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>>172

To put it simply, no matter how many lives one has, when someone is publishing a book criticizing the bad taste of a great ruler, for this person, pride equals a twist of fate.

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In the first place, for Soji to be standing like this means that somehow this man has struck a chord with the nameless.

So this is good.

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The later consequences of karma attack the rigid person who has awakened to the appreciation of the arts.

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Here, it becomes more about Hideyoshi than Soji dying… that’s how it goes.

After that, the death of Soji triggered Rikyuu’s anger.

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The surroundings are filled with resilience, as one must first live for the sake of the unusual.

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If I had humbly showered them with praise here, I would have been forgiven…

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“It’s strange for someone who can’t even express their opinion about clothes that Hideyoshi likes to come asking for a pardon.”

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I wonder who the designer of this costume is…

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>>179

I feel the same sense of style as the person who made that shiny gold armor for Nob.

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Those who can’t kill a part of themselves even in a critical moment will keep making the same mistakes over and over.

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>>180

In this work, it’s Hideyoshi who has been killing himself all along.

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I lack confidence in myself, so I tend to become harsh because of that…

But… even so, that outfit is uncool…!

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>>181

The idea that one cannot survive with this rigidity resonates beautifully with Sen no Rikyū’s final moments and the abandonment of Hōben-dono…

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The sitting position is bad…

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I like it because it eventually pierces through Rikyū.

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I want to have the spirit of living well.

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