Recently, it seems I’ve been evaluated as “gradually becoming a worse person.”

At first, she was a plain girl.

Show that you can also handle situations with English speakers as a returnee from abroad.

I thought that, but I ended up getting more and more immersed in my hobbies and becoming more open.

In the end, I had become dependent on Tanaka, not knowing what to do after graduation…

Even though that Tanaka is a fashion school student…

I want to rely on Tanaka～

In response to Tanaka’s proposal, I said, “I’ll wait for you while repeating a year.”

I thought that’s not the kind of problem it is.

Upon reflection, if I am a student, I can rely on my parents’ allowance.

If I graduate or drop out, my family might say, “It’s about time you start working.”

I started to think that maybe Tanaka is waiting for me to get married with that in mind…

A symbol of the old student circle’s swamp.

Not everyone is as sweet to Mr. Ohno as the princess of the circle, right?

>>8

Later, there was a scene where the guys were gathered and talking, but it’s amazing that Ohno didn’t come in and cause the group to fall apart. We openly talk about it, and I think it was quite a close call.

There was a person named Madara who was uncomfortable with such topics, so I didn’t say much.

>>67

Even if Mr. Ohno’s boyfriend hasn’t been decided right away, I think it’s okay because there’s Saki-chan, which helps maintain a good balance.

Well, there were still a lot of doujinshi coming out back then.

>>13

It’s not depicted in the work and has nothing to do with the piece, but…

I’ve heard that in reality, otaku circles are not only male or female-dominated but are also facing the plight of “depopulation.”

>>14

You can find someone you get along with better on the internet than in reality…

>>14

There is already too much negative information overflowing about circle activities.

If you just want to have fun casually, it’s better to stick to the internet instead of joining an otaku circle…

>>28

Well, that might be one reason, but…

Since the corona pandemic, we haven’t been able to gather anymore.

Because there was no meaning of existence now other than gathering together.

I thought it was too erotic that the second generation became voiced by Yukana.

>>15

“Playing erotic games side by side and getting hyped up, leading to the loss of virginity.”

It seems that statements like “there are no otaku girls who dislike gay people” are extremely disliked by those around me.

>>17

The resolution of women’s otaku at that time was like that.

Whether good or bad, Genshiken is not a manga that portrays “otaku as they truly are.”

“It’s a manga that portrays hearsay otaku.”

There is a discrepancy.

Well, I think the otaku side might have had their expectations a little misplaced.

>>21

Well, actually, homo is one of the main contents for female otaku, so if you’re depicting otaku, you can’t exclude it.

>>37

No one is saying that it’s everything…

In manga, she looks beautiful, but in reality, her body is good, but her face probably isn’t that striking…

>>18

Well, it might be plain because it includes cosplay, but it’s still put together, don’t you think?

Despite everything, Kucchi, who has properly found a job, might be more decent as a person.

>>19

Is it through a parent’s connection?

At that time, it was talked about as if all female otaku, including here, were fujoshi.

There must have been people who didn’t like that.

>>23

Not just back then, but even now, right?

>>30

Now I’m seen as someone who’s “outdated.”

Kucchi was clearly a bad otaku who didn’t understand personal space at Muji, but from the second generation, he became a unique eccentric from his high school days.

>>24

In my first year of university, I said “Please call me Kucchi♡”

A depiction of the real daily lives of otaku belonging to “Genshiken”…

>>36

It was indeed a realistic daily life of the otaku belonging to “Genshiken.”

The changes in the character over time.

Don’t fight over a comic from 20 years ago.

>>41

Seriously?

>>81

It’s a manga that started just before I entered university when I was around 40.

The subject of the character was just too big.

>>44

It’s not that he spoke of a definitive theory; Mr. Ohno was just bragging.

There might be people who dislike it because it has been excessively quoted and used for attacks.

“Because there are people who use it as a trolling meme, saying things like ‘I think the author isn’t thinking at all.'”

You’re saying that there aren’t any!

As expected, even Kasukabe-san, who was there at that moment, was completely taken aback, so it’s not understandable that the author thinks that!

In terms of how Mr. Ohno is treated here

I remember being impressed by how it was combined with things like Bangai-O and the mysterious Muramasa Castle.

The treatment was that harsh.

I can’t understand what you’re angry about if it’s not related to the story and you’re assuming things that only you know.

Kugayama might be the only real thing.

>>53

I think that person is quite exceptional just for being surrounded by superhumans.

>>53

Once I graduate, I won’t be showing up at the club anymore.

Is Madone coming by often because their workplace is nearby?

>>61

By the way, even after becoming an OB, Madara came in his suit.

I remember that the standards for women were extremely high among the people of this time.

Thanks to that, now when I see people like that, I can’t help but think they’re old…

>>54

Well, there are still people like that here and on X.

>>56

I personally want to say that it was a mysterious level of difficulty, even for internet users at that time.

The early part of Genshiken is quite realistic for an otaku-themed work, isn’t it?

In the final stages of Mujirushi, Ohno became quite overbearing after reconciling with Ogiue.

That said, I think it can’t be helped since it was probably only Ohno who could lead the couple on the otaku side.

It seems that those two won’t get anywhere even if we leave them alone.

When talking to long-time members, there are way too many times when I end up feeling a strong dislike for women.

>>65

In the end, I never hear stories from people who successfully created women through bias.

Let’s try to avoid using overly drastic words.

Honestly, I don’t understand a single thing you’re saying.

I’m thinking about what to do since it’s not something I need to manage.

If it’s a thread you created, do as you like.

I think it’s fine to have the mentality of deleting any replies you don’t like if it’s a thread you created.

>>77

Thank you.

Both the Manga Club and Genkigen are really realistic with how women are drawing manga enthusiastically… that’s what I thought.

If you erase all the stories you don’t understand, it should become material for Genshiken.

It may be quite rare for a manga artist to portray a character’s gradual change so naturally like this.

Back in the days of the thread image, Ohno was a modest woman with big breasts, yet before you know it, she became everyone’s older sister.

In the beginning, Ogiue, who disliked otaku, found herself being swayed by those around her as the president.

>>83

The most noticeable change is

At first, I was a socially awkward otaku who laughed with a “kekekeke” sound.

Ahaha, that’s right, said Banme, who was standing behind with a forced smile.

>>86

Madame had a lot of interaction with people…

The second installment, which started as a short-term concentrated series, seems to be longer than the original, and there was quite a popularity for homo manga.

What we’re dealing with is the popular erotic games of that time, but the atmosphere of the circle feels like manga from the early Heisei era.

Kucchi gradually became a bit of an annoying, beloved character.

At first, I only felt murderous intent, but…

>>88

Well, this guy is bad too… but it’s not good at all…

It has become a presence that is mixed with evaluations.

It was Kucchi who chased away the cosplay thief, but it was also Kucchi who got upset and ruined the costume by wearing it.

I think the value of this manga lies in the fact that it reveals the remnants of the golden age of eroge that has truly become hollowed out.

I wonder if the manga club is just playing mobile games now.

The bad relationship between Ohno and Oggy is depicted in reconciliation scenes as well.

In the second half, we became incredibly close, almost like a lie, but it’s amazing that there was no awkwardness with the change.

>>90

Little by little, everyone ends up thinking, “I have a lot to say, but it can’t be helped…”

Kasukabe-san and Ogiue too.

There are indeed many opinions that make sense when you hear them, but I didn’t really pay much attention while reading, so that’s all there is to it.

The leader has softened quite a bit.

The beginning is over.

Is this thread about that parallel manga, or not?

>>95

If it can be separated

“Don’t worry if you don’t have a job lined up, Ohno-san! There’s a perfect place for you!”

“Cosplay adult entertainment! If I were employed there, I would go once a month!”

It was a terrible statement, but I agreed.

In the past, something like Kucchy was recognized as a bit strange, but if we modernize it, it seems like everyone would get a diagnosis.

>>98

It’s a gathering of those who originally can’t survive in the sunlight…

Kucchi often suffers losses because of “saying things that don’t need to be said.”

Genshiken’s genre changes from realistic to super style in manga.

Kucchi has ADHD, right?

>>102

I think there are too many of them classified as ASD when you really sort them out.

>>110

At that time, it was probably not a common classification, but it was likely a lot.

In other words, most otaku are probably like that.

I had never heard that Ohno was called creepy back then.

>>103

Was it a local thing here?

Mainly, there were often threads like that on the mysterious Murakami Castle collage.

>>103

I’ve never seen anything other than the usual comments here where they keep repeating that Ohno is super creepy.

If Ono-san does a dogeza, she’ll let you touch her breasts, so she’s a good girl…

It was mentioned in the work, but without Tanaka, we definitely would have been circling around.

>>104

Because there’s Saki-chan the balancer…

>>108

It might be that we were able to stay healthy precisely because there was external supervision from a person named Saki.

>>104

Yajima (I wonder if I should go on a diet…)

Kucchi Ishida Akira is amazing.

The chairperson who is an early member but is not talked about at all.

>>113

When it comes to the chairman’s speech,

I was enrolled from the founding in 1983 until the early 2000s, but my true identity was unknown.

Around 1983, it was a time when various universities were founding otaku circles.

It is believed that this was influenced by the time when DAICON Film was created at Osaka University of Arts in 1981.

When you think about it, the chairman might have been a bit of an otaku after all.

Honestly, I have no impression of the chairman or the main character at all.

>>114

Sasahara is that guy.

In the section discussing Genshiken on the extra pages of the paperback.

In the beginning, I was writing creepy fantasies that overly connected everything to erotic games, like saying, “If this were an erotic game, it would be like this.”

As the years went by, that tendency gradually subsided, and eventually, she entered a publishing company and started creating her own works.

I think it is vividly realistic as a portrayal of a person.

The president is a mysterious crazy person who doesn’t delve into character details…

The chairman is just creepy.

The president quietly appears in an unobtrusive spot on the back cover of the first volume’s final edition.

I wonder if we could suddenly enter an era where Mr. Ohno produces a mass of specialized books.

It seems that Ohno-san is currently in the underground idol scene or a concept cafe, casually hanging out with hosts.

There aren’t any girls who dislike homos!! Those types of girls with big breasts who passionately argue about it are definitely hated by a lot of people.

Kucchi is voiced by Jun Fukuyama in the second season.

Otaku girl fashion itself is different now.

The very meaning of “otaku” differs between genders.

>>124

Girly coordinates have been inherited, haven’t they…

I think there should be a limit to how many years one can repeat a grade, even if it’s to the maximum. I wonder if the president took a leave of absence or something.

>>125

Actually, there are people like that at the university.

After being expelled in a maximum of 8 years, I take the entrance exam the following year and come in.

It seems that mainly people from the student movement are doing that.

When I was a freshman, a senior who was repeating a year above me said, “Those people have been here since I was a freshman.”

>>130

Yes…

The author was originally supposed to be a writer of messy romance stories, so I wonder if they wanted to write about otaku romance from the beginning.

>>127

Isn’t it a student life that includes romance?

I wonder if I can still draw in this genre as I get older…

I remember someone who got a job at an eroge company and was trapped by their partner…

I think that as an author, something like Higurashi was worse than Genshiken.

>>129

I think the early part of Genshiken was built on a quite delicate balance.

>>129

Sofura has definitely revealed a lot of the author’s true nature.

There are occasionally people of indeterminate age who stay in university for a long time.

Jigopuri is too much about directly dripping the experience of parenting impact.

>>136

The After editorial department asked me to draw something after the end of Genshiken.

When I said, “I can only draw things like this, is that really okay?” I was told, “It’s fine, go ahead and draw.”

>>136

In the end, I can empathize with the struggles, but the period I didn’t draw is my true intention.

I wonder if they are someone who writes in a semi-autobiographical style.

>>138

It seems that Genshiken became interested in the Otaku club after hearing about the current visual research club at Tsukuba University from acquaintances at the time.

However, at that time, they had already fallen behind quite a bit as an anime otaku.

As a model enthusiast, I continued.

So it seems like they were planning to make a figure for the back cover of Volume 5.

The Sufri person also re-enrolled, huh?

I think the second generation is worse than the first generation.

It was good that Sue and Madara got together, but…

I think there are still types of people like the members of Genshiken at the time of volume one, but it’s probably hard to observe them because there is no place for them to gather.

>>143

The overwhelming feeling of Kugapi and Kucchi.

>>145

Also, Kousaka is a rare character, but he exists.

>>146

I remember there was a person in my circle who was a good-looking guy like you…

The most fantasy-like one is Tanaka.

…but they might be there.

>>149

I’m already here, but since my debut was early, I’ll probably become a respectable person before going to college.

I thought it felt real at the time that Sasahara, who was set as the protagonist, was the one who spent the most time on the internet blog.

>>150

There were a lot of eroge critics, huh…

>>154

Ah, the author of “Ah! My Goddess” is also from there.

I don’t really understand, but there are seniors who are really good at games.

Tanaka had some close female cosplayers before meeting Ohno-san as well…

He was probably a virgin.

I think it’s still quite rare to be able to do photography, sculpture, and sewing all at once.

These days, many young people have already started pursuing what they love, so it’s not like they’re making their debut in college anymore…

>>157

So at last

I’m not really sure what to do in the otaku circle, and it’s becoming less active.

>>160

I think there’s a demand for people who can meet in real life, for whatever reason.

Without the otaku circle, my college life would have definitely been miserable.

>>164

That’s true, but maybe there’s no need to cling to the framework of a university.

The times have changed and it’s difficult.

>>164

Even after joining the otaku circle, I felt the atmosphere was different… and that’s when I faded out.

>>164

Recently, we’ve been having meetups quite casually, so I don’t really feel that sense of alienation too much.

>>160

If getting together to do something turns into a highly rational gathering, it becomes a student venture, so maybe it’s not an era for pointless gatherings anymore.

It’s similar to the thread image, but having set characters in fighting games gives a sense of the early 21st century era.

We had one too.

A university student in their 40s who re-enrolled in all faculties was involved in the All-Japan Student Federation.

>>159

I knew it, they’re here.

I thought he was an older-looking college student, but he was probably just a baby-faced guy.

Otaku who have a skill in their hands are strong! That’s true, isn’t it?

It was still back when Arcadia existed…

I think there were rhythm game players around the time of Genshiken.

But I want to have a meeting about what was good about this week’s lottery.

>>166

I wonder if they are doing it on Discord or something…