>>1

Satsuma is very busy with the Namamugi Incident at this time, but what are you talking about?

For example?

>>4

Trump administration

It became fashionable among samurai to always step on sandals with “Satsuma” written on the soles.

Oda → Toyotomi → Tokugawa changed frequently.

Is that really the achievement of Satsuma?

>>7

Achievement of threatening with 200 people

>>13

The fact that Emperor Meiji liked Saigo so much is probably due to this influence.

Has politics, religion, and ethnicity become justice on the bulletin board?

Scary~

The Edo Shogunate is also flipping its stance constantly regarding the verdict on the Chūshingura incident.

>>11

Did you return it?

>>16

The fact that my son’s adoptive family was caught in the crossfire during the raid is unacceptable for a samurai, as he could not act in response to his biological father’s crisis.

I haven’t turned my palm over.

>>14

The Ako Domain, with an intensity akin to madness, issued a ruling that defended the Kira family, but under public pressure, they did not recognize Kira’s son’s succession, and the Kira family was subsequently destroyed.

>>17

Isn’t it just the kind of attitude where they think, “Since it’s just right, let’s also abolish the Kira family!”?

Is it okay to add the character for “achievement” to that?

>>15

If this hadn’t existed, there would be no present-day Japan, so it’s a merit.

It’s sad that they have to take responsibility after fighting and getting cut, only to pass away young…

Am I being punished even though I’m dead?

>>22

It’s obvious; it’s a feudal society.

The Kira family is to be dissolved.

At that time, bribery was common, and from Asano’s perspective, it was just a small amount.

A person’s life and death have nothing to do with honor!

The samurai cannot eat without honor.

>>28

I wonder if it’s just a victim mentality.

History is troublesome because it exists.

In that case, it’s better to be complete fiction from the beginning.

It was a common occurrence in Edo for the entourage to be swept away every time a shogun died.

Mr. Tanuma’s family managed to survive as a formidable daimyo house until the Meiji Restoration.

The Asano family was allowed to be restored as a senior hatamoto.

That’s great!

>>37

I wonder if only the university student who was involved in the raid incident was rewarded.

Well, at that time, Ii Naosuke was really recklessly pushing things through…

>>39

It was more like it was running rampant, or rather, it was running rampant, right?

There are hardly any lords who mourn because of death.

I think the portrayal of Ii Naosuke as a champion of justice is similar to that in Bakushinger.

>>41

The stormy children are indeed tyrants and dictators, and quite worthless.

If you want to maintain the dying feudal system, you have to do at least this much; otherwise, it’s impossible.

It was somewhat sympathetic with that kind of balance.

>>42

If it’s really a minor issue, then it hasn’t taken the initiative in the late Edo period…

Ii Naosuke’s great rampage! That’s true, but…

What kind of shogunate looks past that and then turns around later? Don’t mess with me!

It seems that Tokugawa Yoshinobu was the only one who could foresee that happening, which is quite something…

>>43

That Yoshinobu later prioritized his own safety over the retainers, but it’s safe to say he foresaw Japan’s future.

I mean, even that Yoshinobu has no intention of controlling his subordinates at all, so it’s already over.

>>44

It’s the subordinates who have no intention of doing so…

Keiki himself was motivated enough to almost rush in with a sword, saying he would kill that bastard.

Bakushinger is getting too much of a trace from “Burning Sword,” and it feels like it’s becoming an anime adaptation of “Burning Sword.”

I can understand being a bit sympathetic if the outburst comes from the pressure on-site!

I think that Yoshinobu’s ability to navigate those tumultuous times and secure his own safety independently from his family is genuinely outstanding in terms of personal talent.

If Yoshinobu had seriously resisted, there was a high likelihood that it would have allowed for more foreign intervention…

Regardless of the intention, that action ultimately benefited Japan.

If someone in a position takes things seriously and tries to escape, they can go that far.

Like Emperor Go-Daigo.

If it drags on, there would be people who would try to arbitrarily transfer the territory of the domain overseas like the Aizu domain…

I think it was a stroke of luck that the young silk farmer who came to assassinate me ended up becoming my subordinate and had incredible business talent, ensuring a comfortable retired life just from a small amount of stock I received, Lord Keiki.

Even on the bulletin board, the toxic uncle and the genuine hate have turned around and become popular…

I felt sad at the last page of the thread.

Please stop with the spoilers!

Terrorists who attacked government officials become heroes!

>>59

The order is reversed.

If you are a national executive, work properly.

I was a bit surprised to learn that Ii Naosuke is often portrayed negatively, making him the one who drew the worst lot.

No, Ii is making a wrong judgment that goes beyond normal authority.

>>62

But someone had to draw the short straw…!

Because of this, the Mito clan is heading straight into a bloody internal conflict! What are you going to do about it?

>>63

It can be said that it is the very definition of a fool.

One downside is that when it comes to historical works, history enthusiasts who haven’t read the piece join the conversation, making it difficult to have discussions aligned with the manga’s portrayal of cats.

>>64

Hurry up!

A conversation that aligns with the depiction in the manga.

In those situations, I bring up topics about manga on my own.

If someone brings up a topic about the late Sengoku period that I know about in a history thread, I’m forcefully pushing it aside.

Looking back, this era is really running on a razor-thin balance…

It’s impressive that we managed to avoid breaking apart midway.

>>66

Well, it could be said that the distortions created here ultimately led to an unconditional surrender…

I think it’s become a bit harder to understand because the Mito domain, which was a main character in the early days, has weakened to the level of Piccolo.

Since Tanaka Kawauke brought the banner of the Nishiki, I guess there’s no choice but to kill him to avoid making Satsuma the enemy… I love it when Imuta says that, don dōn.

It’s the end of Cat Country. 🐱

Satsuma promotes masculinity, yet is surprisingly sticky and gloomy, truly effeminate.

>>72

Those who try to appeal to masculinity are not truly manly.

I wonder if Iehara Naosuke is ever evaluated.

Personally, I think it would have been better to be buried in the Umeboke Shrine.

>>74

I think the manga in the thread is quite biased towards Ii Naosuke.

>>77

I thought it might be a little unrealistic while reading it…

>>74

Thread image’s manga

>>74

The shogunate is not a monolith due to its bureaucratic system.

Someone has to do it…! That’s definitely true.

Whoa… The Ansei Purge was too much…

The worst is Mito.

This is confirmed.

>>75

Q: Where did all those people go?

A: They died or fled and are no longer here.

It makes it feel like Ii’s fault in the treaty conclusion is minimal.

This manga has a storytelling style like that, so don’t get too heated about it.

Isn’t the Hikone domain angry about treating Ii Naosuke, who died in a terrorist attack, as a villain?

>>83

Because I got angry, I will defect from the shogunate and switch sides to the new government, starting the battle for the overthrow of the shogunate.

>>83

Let’s start a restoration movement among the people of Shiga as local heroes.

Because you recklessly exercised judicial power.

It’s impossible not to be a villain.

Self-proclaimed patriots.

It will become a terrible era filled with such garbage.

>>86

It’s all because of that guy called Mito Komon.

>>86

There are kids who make bold comments from the perspective of a later era, but it must be easy and feel good for them.

>>90

To put it clearly, I think the essence of history for those who are not scholars lies there.

Welcome to the mad world where you are praised for taking the head of a leader.

Lately, something…

Fingers and ears.

Often on the road

It’s fallen.

>>91

Emperor Komei: “Tokugawa-kun!!!!!!! Please do something!!!!!!!”

Speaking of which, when I went to Hikone Castle, there was also Umebiki-ya.

It felt like they were lifting it locally.

It’s a terrible story, isn’t it?

>>95

That has nothing to do with the big prison.

I’m suddenly surprised that Ukraine is being blamed for something.

I really dislike the trend in the late Edo period that it’s okay to kill those you don’t like.

>>99

A country created by such people won’t amount to anything good in the world.

>>99

I can’t forgive you, Ii Naosuke.

It seems that the sense of responsibility got ahead of itself and went out of control.

As the shogunate’s chief elder, it is undeniable that I had to open the country and suppress anti-establishment factions.

The lineage of the evil Meiji government later became the Empire of Japan, where the former Lord Naosuke once…

A passionate historical drama of being destroyed by the hands of the newly opened America.

>>101

What are you talking about? The lineage of the Meiji government continues very strongly.

By the hand of America

I haven’t been able to talk to the emperor at all.

In most stories, when Ii Naosuke dies, he has a face that seems to have been able to become a shield for the shogunate.

It’s your own grudge that you created.

But my heart is like Masanari Kusunoki…

A man who seriously started a hell by killing those who he didn’t like in the great prison.