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[Dragon Ball] Are Jiren and Gomar similar, but are they actually the same species?

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Is it similar…?

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I wonder if it will be talked about someday.

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>>2

Mr. Toriyama is dead!

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“Super 4 is just a one-word fan service, so I don’t care about it, but I want more explanation on this side.”

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I feel that the design line should be changed a little more.

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It’s a considerate thought that it would be easier for the staff if we dressed the same as Jiren.

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Aren’t you just wearing the same clothes?

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I just bought clothes at the same store.

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It’s just the Pride Troopers’ uniform, that’s all, Jiren.

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Is the strong final boss popular now because people preferred them?

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It’s not just a homage to “Ultra”.

The sense of homage in Degas is also present.

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It seems to inherit the genes of Jiren and Piero…

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>>11

Shut up! What do you know about the relationship between me and Jiren?!

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Was Goma also a name derived from home appliances…?

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Surprisingly, it seems like only the setting has been properly thought out, which is the troublesome part of Torisa.

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Shut up! What do you know about Goma, you bastard!!

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Is there a reason for your strength?

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>>16

Third Eye

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Would it have been interesting if there were clowns in the gorilla?

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I don’t think he is particularly particular about his macho costume.

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It’s not that I want to do something with that strength; I’m just trying it out, so there’s no purpose.

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It might be a world where the great demon realm becomes stronger and triggers a transformation into Jiren.

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The anonymous person is blind; can’t you see the waistline is jagged?

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Why didn’t Arbra conquer the jewel god even though they are this strong?

Were you always getting caught by those late-game challenges like a riddle?

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The angle of the V-neck is different, so it’s completely different.

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Besides, Jiren isn’t the founder of the Pride Troopers, and even if the origin of the suits is the Demon World, isn’t that okay?

I think it’s this way since the leader Toppo has pointed ears and seems to be involved.

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Uhhuhuh…

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I am training in my mind, but Jiren is relaxed.

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If you can get that strong with the third eye, then I think if you trap Krillin, you could easily beat him up like Cell.

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Is it okay since the final episode is in three days?

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There are times when it’s hard to tell whether it’s an homage or just a habit.

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You bought it at Workman, right?

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It’s a subtle line between whether it’s intentional or just a habit…

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Gundam Breaker

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Could it be that this is the key to Jiren’s strength!?

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The reason is probably just that there are fewer design options available.

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If no one points it out, you’ll become the naked king.

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A pose like when the Beast King upgraded.

38: Japan Otaku ReviewsYeahx1

Beerus and Dispo are similar but unrelated, and the same goes for the Galactic Patrol; they are similar but unrelated, and probably the same for the thread image as well.

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Even in this thread, it’s being defended that it doesn’t resemble Jiren.

I guess there wasn’t anyone on site who could say anything more.

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At least, although it’s pitiful, if I fought as the current Dark Lord and lost instantly, then retreated while clinging to the Third Eye, I could somewhat accept that—Gomaar… Gomaar has no information at all.

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>>41

The peak was when we were doing commentary in the first episode.

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Wasn’t this a plot thread that would be resolved in the sequel to Super? Not just this, but various other things as well.

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The sadness of Jiren, who was involved in the multi-vehicle accident, is unimaginable.

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He is muscular, but somehow not cool.

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Please share any memories you have.

Seriously, I think Jiren is a good character even with that design, thanks to his voice and flashbacks.

There’s really nothing here, seriously nothing at all.

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Why did it come to this when it was a work that revived the anime series due to the great misfortunes of a live-action movie scenario that completely messed up the original?

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>>47

I wonder if it’s because they died along the way…?

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Jiren’s memories aren’t that impressive, right?

I have no idea why I’m so strong…

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>>48

Hey!!

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Please give Goma depth in the next episode.

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>>49

Are you bringing the clown?

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They were saying something like, “Give me the strongest body,” so they gave them Jiren’s body.

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I thought it would quickly become the second form, but it’s already been two weeks.

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If Goma’s characteristics and skills were super strengthened by the Third Eye, that wouldn’t be good at all, but it was still somewhat easier to digest…

It’s just a player too inexperienced using a zombie cheat mode in a gacha game…

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>>55

Just because you don’t die, being able to act so confidently after being beaten up like that shows an incredibly strong spirit.

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>>55

It’s not that they’re incredibly strong, but rather that they’re reasonably strong and just really sturdy, which actually felt refreshing.

That said, the battle is too long.

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>>55

I got the paid weapon, Goma.

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I’m currently in about the fourth form.

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I will teach you as well. The reason for Gomaar’s obsession with strength.

Gomaru’s parents were killed by a villain.

And he was saved by the man who would become his master, preserving his life.

After that, Jiren sought to master further strength and the right path under his master’s guidance.

One, two, three… Goma has made friends around him.

There it came again. I fought alongside my friends. I was confident that I could defeat Gomar.

However, he was too strong. Gomar’s companions were killed one after another. Even Gomar’s master lost his life in battle against him.

Goma tried to stand up again, but none of the surviving disciples stood up.

The powerless had no choice but to obey the strong. Gomaru was left all alone.

The sorrow of Goma, betrayed by those he trusted, is beyond measure. At that moment, he realized that trust is worthless.

At the same time, I understood. Strength is justice. Strength is absolute.

If you win, others will follow. If you achieve victory, you will gain everything. There is no need for emotions there.

I fell in love with Jiren’s tremendous desire for strength and his sense of loneliness.

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Shut up! What do you know about Gomara!!

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>>58

I don’t understand anything… What is this trivial thing?

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>>58

I’m asking because I don’t understand.

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Somehow, Daima and Gomaru have become beloved figures among fans.

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>>59

Stop saying stupid things and get to work.

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>>59

Woohoo!

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>No.1286812492

Are you Jiren or Goku? Make it clear!?

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>>61

Shut up! What do I know about Goma!

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>>61

What you’re saying is just that you’re in love with Jiren, and the rest is just Gomu’s explanation, right?

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Akira Toriyama “Jiren…?”

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Hey! This is just the right content, just like the TV special with Goku coming back!

It’s a strange ending where the boss is tackled comedically, and suddenly Vegeta’s brother shows up, but it’s nice to be able to watch Dragon Ball again after a long time.

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It’s exciting and stylish that the ultra homage Jiren and the GT homage Ultra Instinct Goku are battling each other!

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What is it with Broly and Bardock wanting to change their designs somehow?

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It would have been cooler if he had quietly obtained Super Saiyan 4 instead of that abrupt transformation from Neba.

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>>71

The sudden introduction of the Ultra Instinct seems like it came out of nowhere, but there is a background where Goku, after seeing Gohan’s Super Saiyan 2 in the afterlife where physical limitations do not exist, continued to train, breaking through the level cap.

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It must have been a brand overlap.

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I followed up on GT, but it’s terrible that I didn’t follow up on GT’s evaluation points.

It feels like there is no catharsis, as if I’m being slowly read a grandpa’s old stories instead of the ultimate DB’s wish being broken and returning to adult form on my own.

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Isn’t it quite rude to say that “Professor Toriyama created everything” regarding Inou’s work, considering the other involved parties?

I think the battle scenes are really well done by the visual team, and that’s actually the biggest charm of it.

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When you line up Jiren and Goku, it really looks like a dignity-destroying collage…

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The goodness of Jiren comes from a long accumulation over time, doesn’t it?

The phrase “Jiren was so strong” really resonates well.

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>>76

Even Gray with his serious face and Toppo the quirky mustached old man looked really cool when they became serious and didn’t care about appearances anymore after going through ups and downs.

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It’s really just a complete destruction of Jiren’s dignity.

I don’t really like Goma; there’s no particular reason for it, and there’s no reason for me to fight either.

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Dragon Ball DAIMA: The Revenge of Tien Shinhan

Tien, who picked up the Third Eye, combines it with the eye on his forehead and awakens.

Deciding to take revenge on Goku and the others who have neglected me.

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Just because the clothes are the same doesn’t mean there are any common elements racially!

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I need people around me who can say, “Isn’t this design ridiculous?”

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It might be a minority opinion, but I felt a sense of discomfort with the fact that only Super Saiyan 4 transforms from a Great Ape, so I prefer the current evolution from Super Saiyan 3 to Super Saiyan 4.

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>>82

…So what is the tail?

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>>82

I don’t really understand why a tail suddenly appears.

For some reason, the tail disappears and when it comes back…

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>>82

That would lack the persuasive power of a design with monkey elements in number 4…

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>>82

It’s named 4, but it doesn’t really feel like an evolution from 3.

God is like that too, and I feel like the regular Super Saiyan tree stops at 3.

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It’s just the same clothes, isn’t it?

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Is that a joke about taking a bath together?

It’s vividly shocking.

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>>84

It’s still fine until Buruma candidly spills the beans.

Vegeta is an idiot! I was like “Don’t say things like that in a place like this!” but he was a perfectly obedient dog without reacting like that, and it was just wow…

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Isn’t it enough to just tap Goma’s back of the head three times while Vegeta is fighting, without having to tell Vegeta to “switch out”?

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>>88

Now that I’m an adult, it just ends with a punch after teleporting.

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The fact that everyone is happy about returning to being an adult means that…

I knew it, this development of turning into a child wasn’t necessary, was it?

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For some reason, when I took off my top, it felt like I transformed while wearing the mini, and the top changed just like GT Super 4, right?! I was really confused, Dad.

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It’s like they bring out a lookalike of Beerus for no reason, and they instantly forget their own design and end up creating the same thing out of habit, right?

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>>92

There were even rumors about Beerus being a relative or something.

It ended up being a habit, but Gomara is probably just a habit too.

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Super Saiyan 3 Bonus

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Isn’t it fine to say something like, “How about ○○?” In the first place, asking that red Porunga to do something about Gomar is the quickest way.

If you wait a little, with the power of Neba, you can somehow manage to use Earth’s resources even without waiting a year for the infantilization.

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>>96

Isn’t it good? If you’re going to do it, you should have gone to Namek with Kibito or Goku from the start and just asked Porunga to turn you back into an adult.

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I’ve heard various things, but the ultra forms of characters like Beerus, Golden Frieza, Hit, Zamasu, Black, Jiren, Broly, and Cell Max are quite luxurious as enemy characters.

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There are more things that come from the demon world, and everything’s origin is the demon world.

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I feel like if I have 2 hours, I can go to the demon world, battle the Tamagami, build a good friendship with the locals, and defeat the final boss Gomara at Super 3 to finish.

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>>102

I don’t need that.

About 50 minutes at a brisk pace, similar to the old Toei Animation Festivals, is just right.

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>>102

I feel like the times when weak characters were dominating were unnecessary except for the part where they help Panji, and similar types like the special forces were even more unnecessary.

I seem to have lost the recovery bugs somewhere as they are.

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In the final episode, Goku merges with Gomar and flies away.

With that figure in the background, Uhhyohhyo flows as I look back on my memories of the demon world.

“Because everyone loved Goku, who was clumsy, cheerful, and kind, this concludes the story of Dragon Ball DAIMA!” the narration by Akio announces, bringing it to a close.

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I like characters like Nebar, Majin, and Viscas.

I wish it had a more polished development.

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>>107

Even though it’s not enough.

It’s fatal that I don’t know what the character wants to do as a result of wasting time on adventures.

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>>107

You only remember my name properly because you like me, right?

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It would have been more interesting if Goma were getting more and more worn out like fused Zamasu, but it’s just a loop of weird faces → full recovery → weird faces.

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It really seems like Gohan won’t come out…

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>>110

The fact that they have completely disappeared without any reason given in the story is really disturbing…

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Since you can defeat it with Super 3, if Gohan comes out, you can just keep beating it up with Ultimate without consuming too much.

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>>113

I think about it several times, but it’s really next level that this doesn’t consume any fuel yet is stronger than the third one.

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>>113

I can only see a future where I get turned around with the power of the Third Eye, even though I was boasting and beating them.

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>>113

So properly depict the reason why Gohan can’t show up!

The young man was judged to still be a child and just by placing him next to Goten, he became a baby!

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I might have wanted to do some early adventures, but it was surprisingly cramped.

It’s almost a memory of a plane crash.

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It’s hitting normally, and hitting the back of the head doesn’t seem particularly difficult, which makes it feel completely lacking in tension.

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>>115

In terms of strength, Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta is overwhelming, so he could probably punch the back of the head three times in an instant.

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Traveling together with everyone around the ED while having fun, the various drawings are too deceptive.

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This is something super annoying, isn’t it… it reminds me of that thing I saw during the Buu saga… and tracing over it gives me another bonus.

It was quite good.

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>>122

That was just a farce to buy time until Trunks could gather the radar, so there’s not even one millimeter of meaning in doing it this time.

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>>124

It seems like they are taking the aggro to make sure that the stealth Piccolo doesn’t draw attention.

Well, the part that Vegeta was doing until just now, up to Super Saiyan 3, is terrible because both Gomar and the viewers only have “I know” about it.

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>>136

Don’t say rude things.

I know because I just saw you transform in front of me while in your child form.

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They probably forgot due to the unnecessarily long production period, but where did the setting go for Gomā, who doesn’t have high combat power but has amazing magical power, or for dark magic and white magic?

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Since Inoue, who planned Sandland and Daima, is involved, it’s kind of scary to think they might prepare a Daima movie version…

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It was fine to have the regular Kudurusu boss.

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When Ku’s design came out, there was an outcry, but the brother of Majin Buu suited the final boss role much better than that piece of trash that just had a third eye added.

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>>128

That sibling healing part is too comforting, so I don’t really want to confront them.

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The second half lacks enough length, and I would rather see more depictions of adults, so what’s with using giants, tanks, and special forces in the first episode?

Moreover, why is Normal Vegeta putting up a good fight?

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I only like Kuu.

A weak but intellectually sharp and obedient demon is just plain interesting.

It seemed like it could be utilized more, but it wasn’t used at all.

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The Demon Brothers, Glorio, or Neva should be the final boss, right?

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There aren’t many episodes left, and Arinsu seems to have become more rounded; I like the Demon Brothers, but it’s inevitable that it will end up feeling like “what was that?”

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It would have been fine if the third eye went out of control and turned into a monster.

Don’t joke around in the end.

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If Glorio doesn’t turn against us, the person who was intentionally getting the name wrong will become unpleasant, right…?

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The elements that appeared in this work are rarely in the “What was that for?” category.

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What was supposed to be the climax of the story ended up being taken away by Gomar, and that’s how it ends…

I was hoping for one more twist, like Third Eye having a will and taking over Goriro. Something like that would be good.

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It was fine for Glorio to be the final boss.

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>>140

Is that really so…?

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I didn’t want to notice the point of combining a clown and a zirene.

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