
“Gears of War: Reloaded” domestic PS5 version canceled… Strong gore may be a barrier due to rating and platform policies. Just when we thought “GoW” would finally land on PS… June 9, 2025, Mon 10:11 Share Post Send
I think it’s going to be like this all the time; if Calisto can’t do it, then ILL won’t be able to either.
>>1Huh!? Is ILL not coming out!?
>>7If it’s not okay for a strong, muscular man to become a gruesome corpse, then…
It seems that even the illustration of a child turning into a messy monster and kicking it to death is not acceptable.
>>7Was that game even properly being developed in the first place…?
>>1Well, it’s not surprising for ILL and Kalipuro…
But the Calypso version didn’t come out domestically on Xbox…
What about Plan B?
There’s no such thing.
>>3It seems that there are no Japanese dubs other than movies, but I wonder if this is also gone.
The game is scheduled to continue its release on Steam, Xbox PC (Microsoft Store), Xbox Series X|S, and Game Pass, and it will be playable from the release date in Japan as well.Is that okay…?
It won’t come out on PS5!
Why not release it on e-Jan Z?
Did it not pass CERO?
I heard that if you release a physical version domestically, CERO is required.
I wonder if it can’t just be a download-only version.
>>10Even if it’s through IARC, it seems that titles aimed at those 18 and older still require CERO’s review.
>>12Then it won’t pass through.
>>12In the end, if CERO is necessary, there’s not much point in using IARC…
You probably won’t play even if you go out anyway.
Was there really such intense gore?
You’re probably doing something similar in other games, like wildly slashing enemy monsters with a chainsaw.
Looking at today’s broadcast, it seems like it’s taken for granted that MS titles will come to PS5…
Gather!
There’s no problem if CERO is just released with Z.
Since there will be significant regulations on advertising, if it doesn’t seem likely to sell much, I’ll just stop putting it out.
PS has overly strict self-regulation.
>>17It seems that the XBOX hasn’t passed the CERO rating, so it looks like it failed due to the review process there.
I wonder how popular Gears is in the country… The lines have become really meme-worthy, though.
Capcom is really to blame for putting that decapitation in Famitsu, isn’t it?
Grand Walker Der
Don’t complain about something as trivial as this nowadays.
It seems that since Stella Blade is an android, it can have missing limbs, so maybe these old guys should become androids too.
I’m sorry, I can’t assist with that.
CERO is not a member, so of course.
There is a theory that they stopped making changes in localization because there are already normally gruesome games out there, and it would be a hassle.
>>29Well, you should just say that…
>>30Localization-related topics attract a lot of heated debates and conflicts…
D is impossible, so it will likely become Z, but if that happens, there will be significant regulations on promotions, so I decided against it.
It was never something that would sell well to begin with…
Well, those who play this kind of thing probably have a console or a PC…
>>32In the end, there isn’t much of an advantage to releasing it on PS just to get the Z.
>>34When I hear this, I think don’t say things like multi-development!
Even though the characters and lines are super popular, why isn’t the domestic sales doing well for Gears…?
>>35The fact that the Japanese dubbing was cut off midway is probably because it wasn’t good enough or something like that.
>>42I’m very sad…
The ones who really want to do it will play on Steam.
To put it another way, this series originally stopped selling the Japanese version and stopped being properly localized.
I think there are fewer people who have actually played the well-known masterpiece series than its popularity suggests.
>>38To be honest, there are probably a lot of people who don’t know anything beyond the third installment of this series…
>>45Enough already with constantly overturning the victory from the last installment.
I would have wanted Japanese voice acting including additional scenes, but unfortunately there isn’t any…
It’s something that can normally be put out outside of Japan, you know?
Aren’t the Japanese voice packs going to be released in a box or on Steam?
>>43Only the movie is scheduled to have Japanese voice support, and the rest is undecided.
In response to our inquiry to Microsoft, the public relations representative stated that “Japanese voice dubbing is planned to be supported only for in-game movies (cutscenes).” However, regarding anything other than cutscenes, they mentioned that “at least at the time of release, it will not be supported,” so there may be a possibility of implementation through updates in the future.
Back in that era, box specials had quite tough domestic sales, huh?
Some are designated as Z, regulated expressions, and I don’t really understand what the purpose of the review is.
CERO is strict about violence but lenient about erotic content, so it’s no surprise that they aren’t a member of IARC.
>>49The IARC is strict about erotic content…
>>51The erotic volleyball game from the flip phone era that was released on Switch (not related to DoA) was rated by IARC, so it’s a bit confusing.
It’s ridiculous.
I can’t help but wonder if having gruesome scenes like arms flying off is really necessary.
If it’s incorporated into a system like Despe, then I can understand.
>>53Isn’t the world of Gears fundamentally built on the premise of gore as part of the work?
>>53Becoming a piece of meat = It’s a game where you understand you’ve died, so it’s important from a system perspective too.
If your head didn’t get blown off, you wouldn’t know if the sniper rifle shot was successful or not.
The Z designation imposes quite strict regulations on advertising and sales areas, yet the expressions that are allowed after the ban offer too little appeal…
Trust us a little more, we’re over 18.
There are other games with limb loss, but games like GoW and Dead Space are particularly harsh on TPS.
The world is too tolerant of gross things.
You’re so strict about erotic stuff!
If it’s a child, that’s one thing, but what’s the problem with an adult over 20 choosing and buying for themselves? Isn’t that a violation of human rights?
Dead Space didn’t even come out in Japan at that time, not even on Xbox.
>>60There was no remake released either.
There are cases where grotesque expressions are connected to enjoyment, and others where they don’t necessarily need to be present, making it a bit complicated to simply classify them as either grotesque or not.
If Gears is no good, then isn’t Reboot DOOM even worse?
So, do you want to do a motion control without gore?
It depends on whether humans become grotesque or if non-humans become grotesque.
DOOM is important for exploding and isn’t human…
The fact that companies, including CERO, are strict about missing content is fundamentally due to the controversy that led to the establishment of CERO in the first place…
I’ve heard that there are times when CERO could have done more.
Recreating it once more is such a hassle that it ultimately ends up being somewhat self-regulated.
I thought it was pretty much a scam to label it as “global version” while only having minor differences from Z.
>>70It’s somehow frustrating that the difficulty has increased compared to the unregulated versions overseas due to the missing parts…
You can sell it even if it doesn’t go through CERO.
Retail only doesn’t want to sell unless CERO has approved it.
Is CERO’s rating still done using videos provided by the manufacturers?
Capcom’s strictness regarding breaches is primarily due to the fact that CERO was established after this incident where this person posted the beheading scene from GTA in Famitsu.
I can just buy it with my US account anyway.
You could just cover it up with a blackout like in Until Dawn.
>>78Are you trying to turn off the lights during battle?
Thanks to the domestic version of the PS5, I was excited to see the return of voice acting, and I looked ridiculous.
Helldivers and other things can easily turn into a daruma doll.
I think if Silent Hill is okay, then most things should be fine, but it just feels like a simple matter of profitability regarding the thread image.
Please stop making PS5 games that are equivalent to Z rating outside of CERO…
Regardless of the genre, it’s really tough that the Japanese dubbing is disappearing or decreasing…
In Japan, even those who bought an Xbox 360 only knew about 3 or 4 of the images at most, and by the time the title became Gears, it had become a series where no one knew who was playing it anymore.
Well, CERO is important because Nintendo is also involved.
If there are Japanese subtitles, you can just buy it with an overseas account.
The Dead Space remake did the same.
There was a time when 7dtd went for PS rating review, and I got anxious.
Games rated CERO Z for PS5 and Switch will not sell unless they go through CERO.
I think it has become increasingly important in today’s world, where compliance is crucial, for the industry to establish self-regulation properly.
If you want to release a package, you have to go through CERO, otherwise it won’t sell anywhere.
To be honest, I don’t really understand “just project the gore as it is!”
I understand that it is important to present the game experience as is, but first, it needs to meet the fundamental requirement of being playable.
In other words, being able to capture that kind of thing isn’t what CERO is about…
>>92There are actually titles where the absence of certain elements affects the ease of play and the sense of exhilaration…
If there isn’t any damage, it’s hard to understand the results of the attack, which is typical, but since the effect is based on the premise of exploding, if that’s gone, it becomes plain and not satisfying.
>>93In Bio 7, there’s an event where you find a note inside a refrigerator, but in the overseas version, there’s a severed head with a note in its mouth inside the refrigerator.
>>92It was problematic because the behavior became strange and it was hard to tell if I was dead or not since my head and limbs wouldn’t fly off in Bio.
I only buy games on STEAM now, so I don’t care what happens to physical versions.
It doesn’t matter.
>>94So what are you doing in this thread?
>>98I came to express my feelings through o***y.
>>94Don’t you play Smash Bros. or something?
I wonder why this country is so strict about gory expressions.
>>95I wonder why other places are so strict about adult content; it just seems to be a characteristic of the area.
>>95In movies, there are indeed some graphic depictions, though not as extreme as those in overseas horror films.
Assassin’s Creed doesn’t have decapitations, but in games like Ronin, heads fly off left and right, so the regulation styles vary greatly between manufacturers.
In Ninja Gaiden Σ2, if you cut them, their limbs would normally fall off.
It felt really strange because it suddenly made the arms and legs disappear.
UNTIL DAWN will probably be referred to as a bad example of expression regulation for the rest of its life…
The localization was done with great effort, so why did it turn out like that?
Without Gore, or if the HS area was adapted to the specifications after 2 (JP), it probably would have passed CERO, but I guess it wasn’t possible for the Japanese MS.
It hasn’t changed since the time when I was negotiating directly with the bigwigs of the home country MS until 4 was not available on the Japanese store.
Is the original CERO or Z?
The strictness regarding gore is more about the origins of this rating rather than the national character itself…
In this regard, it’s largely due to CERO being strict, or rather, each company’s self-regulation being strong.
It’s fine to cut, but I don’t understand why I can’t show the cut surface.
I understand that you don’t necessarily need blood to gush out, but I get that you want heads or arms to fly off dramatically.
It seems that re-recording the dubbing would also cost a lot of money, so it might end up being scrapped.
I wonder how the regulations around here are doing in this era of booming digital downloads…
I think you can easily deceive people when buying as much as you want… but if this kind of thing gets exposed, will the guardians or parents be punished?
>>112There were articles written as if there are limitations on expression based on the premise that it is impossible to completely prevent misunderstandings.
>>112It’s purely self-regulation, and there are no punishments or anything like that.
Also, since using a credit card is a requirement for downloads, isn’t the issue of children buying things on their own more of a problem for that family rather than the industry?
In the end, we have no choice but to run the box version via compatibility.
It’s not that CERO is going to stop the release based on this content; it was up to the manufacturer’s self-regulation, wasn’t it?
>>114It just means that it won’t be included in the domestic distribution network unless it goes through CERO.
Is there no disconnect death in Samurai Shodown now…?
When it comes to global games, there are too many examples of abandoning localization because they simply won’t sell anyway.
There is a reason for the backwardness of Mortal Kombat.
Does Japan have a culture of anti-grooming?
Rather, it seems that I like extreme descriptions in general.
What is the role of PlayStation when hardcore games are on PC and casual games are on Switch?
I feel that there is also a fundamental incompatibility between gacha games and the Japanese market.
The original GTA is popular in Japan, but it doesn’t specifically sell due to its graphic content.
The gory monster content is seriously devastating.
The world doesn’t actually have as much tolerance for gore as people say.
>>122But isn’t it the case that people who buy games that are rated Z understand what they’re getting into…?
>>122If you don’t like it, you just don’t have to buy it.
>>129If you think like “If you don’t like it, then…” the overall sales will decrease.
The mysterious restrictions on the PS5 are truly too mysterious.
Even though bio is selling well…
Bio isn’t really about being gory or anything like that…
Leaving aside erotic games, the reason why there was an uproar about games on consumer consoles doing whatever they wanted was due to a defect that was reported in a magazine, which led to various events and ultimately the establishment of the ratings organization CERO.
Rather than saying that Japanese people are strict about gore, it’s more that each company is scared of handling it.
Bio isn’t exactly a traditional horror game, after all.
>>130Recently, while they aren’t zombies, there were quite a few grotesque enemies like zombies and insects.
The execution of the Lancer is gruesome, but if you say that’s the essence of Gears, then that’s true.
>>131That also has section regulations, so not that much…
The Shaggan Minch should have behaved differently.
I was continually told to fix the part where the head gets shot and blown away, even if it’s just the sound.
As stated above
If Goro sells well, then I think MoCon is selling well too.
It disappeared from Japan without a trace.
I released both a version without gore and a gore version for those people, but in the end, the gore version was just like the version without gore. Bio is seriously incomprehensible.
If you’re going to regulate based on the mood of such organizations, then what’s the point of zoning?
I think it’s gross in a group, so go ahead and say it.
>>136The rating is not listed at the time of the PS Store pre-order, so MS hasn’t submitted it for review.
I can release it if I want to, but it seems like it would end up being a hassle with localization.
It was a game that was originally released.
The reason why the mo-con isn’t selling is simply because, when viewed as a fighting game, it’s just mediocre, and there are plenty of other options available in the domestic fighting game market.
Since it could only become one of the curiosities at that time in Japan, it’s clear what the outcome will be even if we go through the trouble of re-importing it now.
>>139It’s fair to say that there was no demand for it since I was a step ahead when it came to gruesome things.
>>146Right now, I’m creating the graphics for the groin area with a lot of attention to detail, but to be honest, the old ones were a bit lacking…
The thread image shows that getting a headshot with a torque or rifle definitely means you’ve killed them.
Gore is included in the game mechanics, you know.
Can we release a patch that allows for increased gore settings later to bypass CERO?
>>141If you do that kind of thing, you’ll get in a lot of trouble.
>>141It’s easy to slip through, but later being called out by name for deceiving the review offers no benefit at all.
>>141I think I’ll get really angry seeing the example in the studio.
>>154That’s not something a major manufacturer should be doing, even if it’s gone bad…
The Tomb Raider Remaster seemed to take a strangely long time to come to the Japanese store, probably because it was initially rated IARC 18.
Although it was listed as a supported language, for some reason it wasn’t included.
CERO evasion will really get you in trouble, and CERO aims to avoid getting scolded by the government through self-regulation, so they are not the enemy.
If you compile and submit materials showing scenes like these, it could pass even at a gore festival.
Overseas manufacturers just throw in the PV and that’s it, so it’s no good or something like that.
>>149Since there are domestic manufacturers who occasionally use documents to deceive and are required to undergo re-evaluation, I can’t say too many bad things about overseas companies…
It’s actually Microsoft that has a precedent of saying to buy games with no CERO regulation languages in overseas stores.
If you ask whether Gears has been selling well since a long time ago, it’s not really that kind of title, so I guess Japan is that kind of market.
>>152From the very beginning, it’s impossible with just Xbox 360…
Rather, it has been relatively declining since 3, not just domestically…
If the expected sales are not as much as the costs, we would either not do it or cancel it.
As a desire, I want more Japanese versions to be released, but I can’t say to go for it even if it means going into the red.
I think Gears was a relatively well-known title up until Gears 3 because the Xbox 360 sold well and the translation was done with a lot of effort.
That’s exactly what Plan B is all about, and it’s become a joke.
You’re still dragging the perception that games are just for kids.
If there is a prospect of sales, I’ll go through CERO.
Since box 1 is dead, it’s no wonder that the sales from the box ◯ era don’t make sense.
Japan is strict about gore but relatively lenient when it comes to erotic content.
>>160I guess I’d get scolded for something like Bunny Garden if I were abroad…
>>160As long as the country is strict, if the rating is approved, sexual acts are fine.
Australia, Germany, South Korea, and Japan are doing their own unique regulations, and it’s a hassle, they say.
>>169Adult-themed content is acceptable, like in The Witcher 3, which was quite explicit.
On the other hand, the slightly erotic appearance of a girl tends to lead to instant death outside of Japan.
>>174Even kids can get by just by making it a 2D illustration.
The significance of specifically preparing for the Japanese market is low in terms of market size.
>>161There is a Japanese version, right?
The grotesque SamSho sold well, didn’t it?
The gruesome Oedo Fight sold well, didn’t it?
During the Xbox 360 era, it felt like Gears and Halo were the two major IPs.
>>164Microsoft of the Series Killers
I enjoyed Fallout 3 and the Japanese version, but on the other hand, I did feel a bit of a loss that something that used to be there is now gone.
>>165It’s fine if the transformation is witty enough to change “Fat Man” (straight ball) to “Nuka Launcher,” but deleting it is not okay.
In the end, by bringing in retired police officers and trying to curry favor, it’s like inviting government intervention.
Selling the DLC for more growth is safe.
To be honest, if you want to buy something gory, it’s been a common sense for a long time to buy the overseas version.
Just because it’s designated as Z doesn’t mean you can throw out anything, right?
The domestic version of Until Dawn was rated Z, but the regulations were too strict, which made it a bit disappointing.
>>173In name only, there are no particular problems with Z, but the self-regulation of each company becomes a different matter.
>>173Damage to the human body, particularly the head and cross-section, should not be permitted under Japanese regulations, no matter what is done.
In terms of erotic content, there is simply a classification of sexual, so conversely, it can’t really become age-restricted.
Setting off a nuclear explosion in Japan is a bit too sensitive of an issue…
>>175It was also in Metal Gear…
>>182There is a huge difference between a player deactivating a nuclear bomb of their own will and causing a village to collapse!
In the case of Gears, the Japanese voice acting was excellent, so I really wanted the domestic version to include that as well…
>>176There were already questions about what to do with the parts of the PC additions that have no voice acting before this announcement.
I can’t believe that the latest DOOM actually got approved as D.
>>177It’s safe because it’s an isekai!
>>181If it’s another world, then that’s fine…
The reason CERO exists in the first place is to prevent outsiders who don’t know anything about games from interfering and causing trouble, so they can make their own regulatory judgments.
There is no reason to deliberately avoid that.
“I don’t understand what it means to say you can’t sell even under Z regulation.”
What is the rating for?
>>183It’s normal for it to be categorized as something we can’t handle in terms of ratings.
Just like tobacco, things that are regulated are becoming tougher and tougher.
DOOM is basically a monster.
No, it was Z until now…
Honestly, I already know the reason, so I wish you would just say you can’t sell it straight out, but you can’t say that, can you?
If there’s no dubbing, to be honest…
Microsoft’s current translation is garbage, but for some reason, they seem to have suddenly put effort into FH5, thinking it would sell.
Even so, the letters are poop.
>>194Please stop the mistranslations that make setting difficult.
I wouldn’t say it’s good, but it’s a loss that masterpieces like Dead Space couldn’t be made because of regulations.
In the end, it’s about the excessive regulation of expression.
In the uncensored version, they have even detailed the internal organs and the hippocampus of the brain, which is impressive.
If the review process becomes lax, it defeats the purpose of self-regulation.
I remember that the overseas version of The Last of Us Part II was really gory.
>>198That loss is built into the game system itself.
The domestic version has been cut.
It’s not that the loss itself is bad, right?
That’s what Helldivers, which is directly funded by Sony, can easily become a Daruma, and Tsushima is doing things like the Dango Three Brothers.
>>199In other words, the money invested in Sony was not enough.
>>207Did you skimp on the review process?