It might be different when it comes to connection and arrival.

It seems difficult because there are also ways of saying that it’s not the source in the magical world.

It seems that in an interview, Musashi mentioned something along the lines of not reaching the source.

It seems that sorcerers other than those from the West are also aiming for the Root, just with a different approach.

Isn’t it a story that calls achieving a connection “arrival”?

>>3

It seems that it disappears once you reach it.

>>4

Well, if I were swallowed by the vortex of origin, my individual self would easily be obliterated… that’s what I think.

Even without that, it’s undeniable that the root of a mere human is an excess of power.

>>4

I mean, isn’t this just a reason to not return if there’s no meaning to staying in this world…?

The original idea is new Platonism, right?

Is Plotinus connected…?

I don’t understand the meaning of “you receive magic when you reach the source.”

>>6

I wonder if the method of reaching the source will be considered magic.

>>6

If you dive into the mantle from an existing volcano, nothing happens, but if you drill a hole into the ground where there is nothing and reach the mantle, lava will come out, right?

It is similar to the way of thinking in Kabbalah.

>>7

The incantation for summoning heroic spirits that returns to the source is Kabalah.

Isn’t it that once you reach the source, you can’t come back?

The unity with something divine and symbolic was depicted in the Divine Comedy.

Dante doesn’t deal with that either, huh?

The source connector is something that has the ability to connect from the beginning, while the source arriver is something that reached the source later.

A connector can draw energy from the source, but without an output mechanism as a living being like a direct death, it is just energy.

I think that the means for those who reach the source is a kind of magic that lies beyond human reason, capable of breaking through deterrence.

No one has ever returned after touching the source, which is mentioned in the latter part of Mahoyo, but I don’t really understand what Aoko is saying.

While saying that touching the root leads to immediate disappearance, Super Aoko is properly answering when asked by Touko-san about her feelings on touching the root.

Since Aoko didn’t arrive at it on her own, it might be a little different.

The old man had no physical body, right?

Aoko is the first returnee… is that what you mean!?

>>15

Is it a person… maybe?

It seems that in order to use magic, you have to reach the source anyway.

It seems that no matter how great a magician Aoko is, no one who has touched the origin has returned, and it suggests that if you don’t touch it and come back, you can’t become a magician.

>>17

In other words, by the time one becomes a magician, it means they have already transformed into something that cannot be called human…?

>>19

Zelretch seems to perceive himself as an alumnus who has graduated from Earth.

Aoko says she doesn’t remember becoming something that’s not human, so I don’t think that’s the case.

Well, in the sense that they have transcended lifespan and aging, one could say they have stopped being human.

It’s unclear whether the lack of aging or lifespan is a common characteristic of all wizards or if it’s just specific to the second and fifth types.

Both are spells that interfere with time in a subtle way.

The first person is probably not human, and the pattern of reaching the source to receive magic might normally be difficult to achieve.

Aoko isn’t an ordinary human at least by the time she uses magic.

Aoko’s grandfather is probably not a wizard.

Aoko doesn’t really understand what it means to inherit magic.

>>25

The old man is a researcher of magical theory, and is he like a user that Aoko has actually become able to use?

Aoko’s magic feels like the speed of magical power exceeds physical phenomena, but I don’t quite understand what effect that brings about.

It seems that a person born as a connector has no meaning to live from the moment they are born, so it’s basically going to be stillborn.

Most people who seek the source are spiritual seekers, so it makes sense that once they reach that singular point filled with all origins and answers, they do not return.

It’s rather strange to pick up one end and come back.

It’s strange that there are some connectors pulling in resources even though they haven’t reached them.

The setting is mushroom miso soup, and that guy lies…

I think once I gain everything, I’ll create my own world and live there, saying goodbye to this one.

It’s just that I don’t know whether this part was there from the beginning or added later, but it seems like there’s a proper reasoning behind it.

The connector has functions that are not naturally human.

Do you feel like reaching it means stopping being human?

Is reaching the source through technology, magic, or miracles fundamentally different from being a source connector?

>>36

The connector is just a part, and it seems like a story about the source itself, so it’s probably something different.

Aoko says she doesn’t remember no longer being human, but when she appears in various places across different times and claims to take down bad guys, I think that makes her pretty much a creature that has stopped being human.

Musashi-chan was like that in her lifetime too.

Aoko couldn’t understand what it was even after reaching the source, so perhaps that’s why she was able to come back?

Well, it’s hard to say that a girl who casually does solo Rayshift or uses a rocket pencil is human…

There is also a “path” perspective that reaches the source.

Thought boards and holes

I think connection is just something that clears the way.

Rather, the connectors are individuals that appear only occasionally.

It feels unexpected that returning after going over there is even an option.

It’s great that when you ask the person in the thread for help, they rewrite the world’s texture…

Aoko is still human enough that she would die if she were to be killed.

I simply brought back a remaining life from the future and erased death amidst the chaos of resolving the singularity.

A decent connector basically just commits suicide, right?

>>46

It will result in stillbirth due to not having the will to live as a fetus.

If there are techniques to keep external people alive, like the Ryogi family or the Shajou family, it’s a different story.

But, you know, in the old days, magic wasn’t just five like it is now, right?

Is it a recent thing that magic is almost equivalent to reaching the source?

Or is it that the return from the root is just modest by modern civilization standards, but was amazing at the time, so there is no contradiction?

>>47

By definition, there used to be a lot of broad magic in the past.

The certification of magic is carried out by the Magic Association, and there was a mention in “Shimahoyo” that “the ultimate challenges remaining for humanity are five,” so didn’t they foresee that there would ultimately be five remaining types of magic back then?

>>47

Unlike calling something magic that cannot be reproduced by science, it seems that the five types of magic have some intrinsic meaning.

It seems that Cocteau’s statement that the only true magic left in the world is perhaps just world peace is correct.

>>57

It’s just that Cocteau hit upon a magic that hasn’t been realized yet, so there’s no particular significance to calling it true magic.

The disposal hole connects to the outside of the void, and passing through the disposal hole leaves malignant information in the discarded imaginary space.

When you understand it through such a system, you can somewhat grasp why some root connectors seem somewhat like humanity’s evil.

Is being able to do anything boring? Does it mean to die?

>>50

I wonder if there are people who, even after getting a spoiler about life before being born, still want to live.

>>54

It’s a question of whether to intentionally read a book where I already know all the content from the beginning.

>>54

If you don’t know what happens after you die, wouldn’t you want to take a chance?

The gate is open, but there is no means to pass through the Godward.

That’s the same thing that the sorcerers of the divine age were doing, so it might be natural in that sense.

>>51

I wonder if Elena feels the same way.

Even if one can know with clairvoyance, can they not reach it?

I think there is a difference between those who can connect to the internet and those who have undergone cybernetic enhancement.

The sorcerers of the divine era could use magic on a magical level because they connected with the gods.

In modern times, whether you’re born as a root connector or entering a spiral hall to connect to the thought board, it makes me wonder if the mystery manifested in the form of God is something close to the collective unconscious of humanity.

Basically, gods are personified nature based on human recognition, so it was probably a state where gods equated to the foundation of magic.

Ah, the era has changed and the object of dependence has shifted from gods to countries, which is why foundations are emerging in different regions.

>>62

Christianity, which is a religion transcending nations, has become the world’s largest foundation for magic used in baptism chants, making it difficult to cross regional boundaries, but not impossible.

In the first place, the source of divine power is drawn from the root, so essentially all of it is the same.

In ancient times, it was safe because the divine powers were exercised by those who were granted them. While the principle that “the more people know the details of a mystery, the more its power is dispersed” is fatal to modern magic, magic itself is fundamentally extraordinary because only one person can fully understand it.

>>63

Well, there are some who come from a completely different background, like Greece, and are putting in their strength…

If something like this, derived from space, were to suddenly come to the modern world, it seems like the magic association would be thrown into chaos.

>>74

Isn’t it the same that the origin is the same, regardless of whether it comes from outer space or not in that world?

>>74

Aristotle…

>>77

The name comes from the fact that the mushroom was pruned…

The specifications of modern magicians and sorcerers are so inflated that it’s hard to understand how impressive past magicians were in comparison.

I understand that the media is impressive, but I don’t really have the impression that they are stronger than the Aozaki sisters.

>>65

Aoko has abundant resources with the Fifth Magic, but she can only use simple destructive magic outside of the Fifth Magic, so she can’t win against Medea.

It feels like the first and fifth reached the source and received magic as a bonus, while the others used magic to reach the source.

The five (or six) types of magic in the world of the Common Era are said to be humanity’s final challenge or something like that.

The rest after the fourth one is all trash.

>>67

Just because of that, to delete the whole fourth one…

It seems that the authors close to the mushroom have heard about the fourth content, so I wonder if they might accidentally spill something if I press them a bit…

Aoko Auntie’s combat only has beams or amazing beams…

Maybe it’s the one where the sixth one increases during the Arzberri ritual or something.

There have been discussions before about whether the Fourth and the Wandering Sea are related.

The strength of the media is fundamentally due to its high capabilities in creating territory and tools, and its ability to quickly use great magic with quick incantations.

Greece has been a source of mystery since it became naturalized on Earth.

Until then, I think it will only be a function that appears to have divine authority.

It’s just a matter of the media having greater skill than other wizards, so the discussion about strength is not being addressed.

In the first place, if Aoko can use magic, she has a chance against Arcuied on her own.