Don’t you know that I turned my palm at the brothel?
>>1Machu was a good kid the whole time at the brothel.
>>3So I’m already saying that I’ve flipped my stance, right?
You’re the one who’s slow.
It’s just following that because it’s an anime that you watch with a sense of live action.
>>2Are there any anime you don’t watch for the live experience?
I am an adult who loves SEKKYOU.
Chasing the latest episode in real-time and hitting it is something a madman would do.
The way of criticizing works and only being able to take a negative perspective while seeking understanding from others is pathetic.
Foolish child
I think there is a consistency in that.
>>11There are people who get angry when they’re told that they are depicted as a brat, even though that’s how they are portrayed.
The protagonist is depicted that way, right?
When you become an old man, you start to enjoy giving sermons. It’s sad, isn’t it?
>>13The old man is saying.
Aren’t they all just using the same tone every time and acting like they’re the ones instigating the criticism or causing the outrage?
It’s like a general meeting attendee, providing material for creating controversies using summary blogs.
>>16Seems like you have aluminum foil wrapped around your head.
Getting angry while watching it every week and discussing it around that area feels like exactly what the creators intended.
>>17Well, some viewers who say “if you don’t like it, don’t watch it” are actually obstructing the business.
>>25“If you don’t like it, don’t watch it is just a reasonable argument.”
Are you stupid?
>>25On the other hand, there are consistently idiots who come to join the conversation without clearly watching and just insult others.
So far everything is interesting, so I don’t really understand what’s causing the chaos?
The only place to complain would be Hammurabi.
Even though they mess up various things, they don’t seem to care, so it doesn’t feel refreshing.
>>20There are descriptions that show concern.
There’s no time to keep worrying, as the next event will just happen.
No matter how you think about it, the character depiction isn’t liked by all viewers, and being disliked is probably welcomed as well.
People who unfortunately cannot distinguish between anime and reality.
You’re not drawing a character that people would originally like, are you?
>>23It is common for character bashing to overlook the character’s portrayal or lead to misinterpretations.
In relation to this work, it seems that those who try to affirm Machu in a strange way are repeating the pattern of being denied within the narrative due to incorrect interpretations.
>>44I wonder why it’s impossible to understand that discussing things in terms of complete affirmation or complete denial is wrong…
>>44I’ve seen people criticize the safecracker while ignoring the betrayal from Anki, but I haven’t seen the other side.
>>44Hmm… I think Anonymous probably has the desire for Machu to be this kind of character!
I think they want to fit it into a framework of a refreshing character who crushes those who are scheming bad adults purely out of innocent intentions!
But in the story, there is no such intention, so it doesn’t fit that template and ends up going back and forth.
>>79Completely the opposite, the anti-fans are just deciding that Machu is just a brattish kid.
>>79This was the unnamed character who was excited in the atmospheric entry scene from the previous episode, and I felt it intensely.
I guess you hope that the nameless character will be like that.
>>96Do you want Machu to be a stupid, empty-headed brat?
>>100I’m not even able to be a stupid little brat, to be honest.
A state of just following where Ziekax is trying to take me and watching what happens there.
>>108Ziek Aks only goes towards the rose, so he doesn’t have any connection with Nyanshuji or his older sister Lalah except for Machu.
If we’re reading meta, Zeke Aksu in the rose world would be considered a final boss because Amuro is a lonely and incomplete existence.
>>121Nyaan got irrationally angry and hurt them, and Shuji didn’t even try to understand and just distanced himself, so is there really as much connection as you’re saying since Lalah’s path in life diverged?
>>131Do you really not think that state is related to you?
>>108I guess they’re the type of person who can’t accept anything other than denial.
Stop watching.
Or stop looking at the bulletin board.
>>96After the depiction of the conspiracy intertwining in all directions.
The fool kid is messing around and entering the atmosphere! That’s why.
“I don’t know about any conspiracies!” It does seem like a depiction where they kick it away, but I get it…
The ones who act in groups and show behavior that is the complete opposite of the general public are those living in Japan.
What are people who are directing excessive hate towards Machu?The goal is to collaborate through internet memes.
The discourse has boiled down to either praising or mocking to take a superior position.
Ultimately, there’s nothing special about Machu.
>>26Since I can’t understand even this text, I can’t understand the content of the anime either.
>>26Oh no!
I wanted the anti-anti to gather, but for now, the anti is dominant.
>>26People who love words like “reversal” and “anti-anti.”
>>26It’s just the usual clinginess.
You’re definitely wearing good underwear too, aren’t you?
>>50In the first episode, it was awkward.
It’s cute how it’s changed since I sleep with Shu-chan.
I think it’s wrong for the person who’s getting amused by this face to keep starting threads over and over again.
>>51The trend is already “Prostitute Matu,” huh?
And next week will change again.
Only the adhesive cannot switch its mindset.
>>64I don’t have a mind that can think like that.
At best, the mood is bad.
>>64I haven’t seen the main part and I don’t have the intelligence to understand it.
I’m just piecing together information from stories that have already been broadcast online without fully understanding them.
The material to criticize is just too outdated.
>>76I think they’re watching.
However, since Zeke Ax’s plot progresses rapidly and skips over a lot, people with low comprehension skills are being left behind.
Those kinds of people are hitting back because they don’t want to admit that they are unintelligent.
It feels like the “manma” argument was sticking to My Hero Academia and Jujutsu Kaisen.
Maybe that layer is just bashing popular works as they are.
>>63It will really end up flowing this way.
The guy who was obsessively stuck on One Punch Man is probably the same.
I can’t help but think that it’s pretty messed up to call just an impression a theory or argument.
>>69I can’t compete with someone who’s endlessly complaining about a boring work.
It’s not that I dislike Machu; it’s more that I dislike the works of Gikax as a whole, so I have the image of using Machu as a punching bag.
You saw it during Kannagi, right?
This kind of anti-fans appear in large numbers.
>>75I think it’s the same as when I said during Kannagi, I believe it’s just one person.
>>78It is indeed an exaggeration.
There are about three people.
To be serious, I think there’s a chance it’s in single digits, no joke.
I sometimes feel a bit envious of how emotional people can get over something as trivial as anime.
I don’t think it’s necessary to hit excessively, but I also feel that it’s not drawn in a way that would be positively received.
>>80Because the character is not portrayed in a way that can be objectively liked during the play.
You can tell that it’s something that is intended when you see it.
>>93In normal values, they are just bratty kids going through a rebellious phase (mother, Exabe, Komori).
But for those who are struggling to change their fate, they are both yearned for and the last hope (Nyan, Lalah, Sharia).
Both coexist equally.
>>107I feel like you might be exaggerating a bit.
>>117Even though they say things like brat and terrorist in an exaggerated manner.
Just a little bit of affirmation makes you start whining like this, huh…
>>126If you don’t like that, isn’t it only natural to question me for doing the same thing?
>>133Thinking of it as obvious is pretty dangerous.
>>117Lalah said it straight, and to Char, she is nothing else.
Because there were no clues for five years.
In the political drama at Side 6, the strategist Sharia was secretly working to obtain Machu → Fact.
When I finally get it, I want to find the same important person, so Sharia, who is in the same position as Machu, doesn’t choose the means to find the red gun or roses → Episode 9.
It seems like the adhesive doesn’t understand this difference.
I don’t understand that it’s contrasting the same perspective as Machu, who seeks an unstable yet reassuring environment from a materially blessed but mentally constrained one, with NyaanRaraa.
If you’re going to complain every week saying it’s boring, you might as well stop watching it, and complaining about it online is pretty ridiculous.
There’s no hate, but what have you done? So far, I’ve just moved the Jik Ax.
>>84I knew you weren’t watching…
>>87Well, I’m watching.
I feel that those performances were what left an impression on me.
>>101You can’t have that impression while you’re watching it, can you?
It can only be thought of as not having seen it.
You’re a liar.
There’s no one having fun! Or someone saying it’s just a bashing thread here! Isn’t that pretty messed up?
Just because you don’t like the protagonist doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy the story, right?
Even if you dislike the main character’s story, it’s possible to simultaneously think that the 1st IF is interesting.
>>86It’s understandable to dislike something, but throwing completely incorrect negative opinions just seems like an act of hate that only belittles the work.
It feels a bit like Machu.
Let’s go to the brothel together.
The protagonist can only be something to make fun of or something you hate, right?
The fact that a topic like “prostitute Machu” is trending makes me feel like Machu is not really loved.
I just wish the main story would honestly praise Machu or develop in a way that makes you sympathize with him, but it doesn’t.
It’s too funny when you start blabbering about your original settings and then label me as clingy, so please stop.
In the end, I won’t even try to hide it anymore.
Is it an era where Gundam is featured in brothels?
It was meant for children, you know.
>>99It’s a late-night anime!
>>102Kids will end up watching it on subscription service, right?
It seems that people who dislike narratives where the protagonist is oppressed by society are trying to distort and elevate Machu’s character in an abnormal way.
>>103I guess you don’t like having dissatisfaction with something…
It seems that I can only feel fondness for characters who accept everything positively and always greet others with a smile.
>>103Perhaps it is increasing that people naturally interpret it that way, such as thinking that a high-handed lady character is actually a good person at heart or that a delinquent boy character must actually be someone who rescues cats, making it difficult to accept things straightforwardly.
>>103People who are angry at Komori for having a bad attitude towards Machu.
It feels like, “What’s with all that…?”
>>141If you can empathize with Machu, it’s only natural.
>>153I somehow found it convincing.
>>141There are people who are angry at Machu for having a bad attitude towards Komori, but they don’t say anything about that…
>>141I thought it was strange that just pointing out something as odd led to being called angry or hateful.
It’s true that it’s unnecessarily sarcastic without any need, right?
I love the face you make when you’re sulking against Sharia Blue.
The logic that one must stop watching if they find it boring halfway through is unclear.
>>109I think it’s better to distance yourself from people who put down those who are enjoying themselves.
>>119Does feeling bored lead to belittling others?
>>119If you want to bite back at everything like that, wouldn’t it be better for you to not participate in the thread anonymously?
>>127That’s right.
Hurry up and get out.
>>119If you think it’s boring, you don’t have to stop watching it.
If we’re talking about the bulletin board, it’s just trash to barge in on a thread where people are enjoying themselves.
>>119If you don’t like it, then you don’t have to watch it.
>>119It’s your responsibility to open such a thread and become uncomfortable on purpose.
>>143Isn’t this not that kind of thread?
>>148Since this is a thread asking about the reasons for directing hate, I think it’s natural that opinions both for and against will gather.
Could you tell me what kind of thread you think it is instead?
>>148I don’t even know what kind of thread this is in the first place.
They’re just casually expressing their opinions and arbitrarily labeling others as trolls.
>>148The text wasn’t aimed at those who find Gikux unpleasant from the beginning.
>>143This isn’t a thread to discredit Zikaus, right?
>>176If you think this thread won’t lead to disparaging comments in the main text, then you have the qualities of a troll.
>>191But it seems like people who dislike Machu are saying it’s wrong for them to invade threads that aren’t about that…
Even recently, if you’re saying escape! Entering the atmosphere! While including that in the movement of the Zeek Axis, that’s insane, right?
It’s not that I dislike Machu, but I’m more curious as to why there’s so much depiction of being disliked? I’m more interested in whether this will lead to a satisfying conclusion.
>>111To help Nyaan, like the financial support and this brothel this time.
When you look at it, it’s depicted that they are not just some useless brat.
It feels like only the worst parts of those kinds of kids are being depicted.
After all, it’s Gundam, so there are people who will watch it until the end even if it’s boring.
Putting it on existing IP means that kind of thing.
>>114Using existing IP to create a terrible anime is unacceptable… is that what you’re saying?
You are a bundle of energy/action.
Let’s set the results aside for now.
The irony that jellyfish cannot think about the future, so they can only be carried away by the rapid changes in social circumstances.
The career survey is properly foreshadowed, isn’t it?
If you’re not going to make them active, that’s fine, but it’s a mystery why you would depict expectations in a way that teases them in the pulls or previews.
At this stage, I don’t want to see anyone being meek, so it was exhilarating to see Machu biting back at the bearded old man and Komori-kun.
In the final episode, Shinji-kun and Eva will be coming from the other side.
Since there are people who are enjoying it, criticism should be reserved for appropriate places only.
If you don’t want to see critical opinions, just disconnect from the internet 😅
>>138If you don’t want to see positive opinions, then just don’t look at the internet.
>>138You idiot.
It’s not wrong for me to jump into a thread like this and say that this work is boring!
Can you read the thread?
If you can’t even enjoy it normally, you probably lack the talent to enjoy it.
I can’t enjoy change or find joy in anything.
I suppose you are aware that this is being said about you.
It seems like the people who are criticizing Machu are probably starting sticky threads about V Gundam and F91.
Machu is a child who doesn’t properly think about the future and ends up being foolish as a result of being swept away by immediate pleasures, and the people around him are using such a simple child, so Machu can’t do anything as he wishes; this development continues throughout, and it can be viewed as a drama of that nature.
For some reason, there are people who always say that Machu is definitely going to make a big change this time.
>>155So, the way it’s drawn changes from episode 7 onwards after episode 6.
It emphasizes that Machu is the protagonist, paralleling the same position as Nyan Raraa.
>>172Nothing has changed.
At the brothel, Machu merely acted as the maids told him, following Siegax’s guidance to go to Sharon’s rose, without making any decisions for himself.
If anything, Lalah, who stayed in the brothel for Char, is the one exercising self-determination.
>>182I dove right in there.
It was your own will to support the maids, right?
If it comes to that, the three of us who ended up here have a firm will of our own to escape with the money.
>>206I was just brought to the brothel after a forced landing, and I acted only as I was told; I wouldn’t say that can be considered my own will.
At least it is not portrayed that way as a drama.
>>221Why?
You’re jumping out of your own will, aren’t you?
If you have no will, then you can just enter the cage.
Was it someone’s will to steal Anki’s gold?
Was it someone else’s will that made you decide to pilot the Gundam?
>>240Even if it’s said to be my will after being given such preparation, it’s hard to believe.
Once used and serving its purpose as induced by the results, it will be imprisoned again.
You’re just a puppet.
>>172Rather, it seems that I am being used and led, and things are getting worse and worse.
Machu’s sense of agency is weakening.
>>155Well, I hope for something that will lead to growth or change the tide somewhere.
Because they are always either running wild or just being used by those around them.
>>175If you’re watching the latest episode, I think you would understand that the signs are showing…
>>183I felt that sign when the understand Basque came out too.
>>192I thought the flow would change both during Psycho and when entering the atmosphere.
>>183I felt that sign during atmospheric re-entry, but not yet…
>>199It’s better to wait until you’ve seen the final episode before doing that kind of thing.
>>155Well, I understand that some viewers have a desire for protagonists to be a certain way, but I feel it might be best to stop imposing that on Zeke Ax.
Please read the thread properly.
This is not a thread where Ziegax complains about being bored.
Since it’s a bratty character, it’s no surprise that it gets criticized by some people.
What I dislike even more is the excessive demand for purity and integrity from the viewers.
>>157I’m saying that it feels simply disgusting to scatter hate like venting frustration towards a character from a creation that will ultimately be resolved somehow.
>>177In other words, I don’t want everyone’s impressions or opinions to be anything other than aligned with my feelings.
Who do you think you are…?
It’s impossible, so I cut off the internet for self-defense.
In Side 6, Sharia is maneuvering through the Gilbarren faction and making connections through Kamran, but right now there’s no leeway, so all that can be done is to talk about confidential matters in front of Komori.
I didn’t even know that roses exist on Earth or that the current Red Gunpilot is Shuji.
What is it?
Are you saying that starting a thread like this is already trolling?
>>163Yes
If you want to talk positively, it’s good to set up a proper management system, like with Machu.
>>174The one that was standing earlier was quickly being destroyed, right…?
What’s up with the people directing excessive hate towards Machu?
Please provide the Japanese text that you would like me to translate.
Explaining my thoughts
Please provide the Japanese text that you would like me to translate.
Antis, disappear!
Why does that happen?
>>164If you can explain it in detail, then you are a fan.
Please provide the Japanese text you would like to have translated.
That’s not it.
Please provide the text you would like me to translate.
Then why do you know so much about it?
I’m sorry, but it appears that no Japanese text was provided. Please provide the text you would like me to translate.
Is it because I’m an anti?
Well, if you don’t like it, don’t watch it, and as a result, the number of my impressions posts has halved from episode 7 to episode 8…
It feels like the night before the reversal has arrived.
Well, that’s something that often happens when there’s excessive live commentary on a message board.
>>167That’s amazing, this kind of guy.
>>179It has started to feel like ✕.
It’s about time I should start preparing to create a thread pretending to reverse.
>>167After the broadcast ends, it’s almost certain that it will be treated like the current Mercury, so it’s a situation similar to the final days of Zeon, where the question is how long we can delay the reversal.
The rhetoric that is rapidly lowering the negative views around Machu to below Machu is actually amusing, so I hope it continues this way.
If they’re depicting things that gather hate, isn’t this exactly what the creators intended? I don’t know, though.
I don’t really think Machu is a brat as much as people say.
I think this work itself is a good piece that delves into what NT really is.
>>171I think so too.
I thought that cutting down on the bonding scenes could also be considered a valid expression of the new type.
It was a work that made me realize anew the variety of Newtypes and the breadth of the original material.
You’re trying hard to create chaos because you want things to turn around, huh?
>>185It’s only natural for a work to receive both praise and criticism, so I don’t understand what they mean by reversal.
>>195There are people who can’t be satisfied unless they either fully agree or fully disagree on the bulletin board.
>>195For some reason, there are many people who can only take it as either right or wrong.
If you don’t like it, then it’s fine to just not like it.
It’s not a character that would appeal to everyone, no matter how you look at it.
Reversal! Reversal!
Machu, I resemble you.
>>193Turn yourself in quickly.
>>193Hello, police?
>>193It’s probably a joke, but it seems that some anonymous users and certain internet people actually want a character like this.
Goodness… not being swayed by the scheming adults… heh… I can’t help but want her to be that interesting kind of character… which is probably why the bulletin board went wild solely because of the atmospheric entry scene last week.
I’m being held hostage by the first element, so I have no choice but to continue watching.
>>194So, have you been following all the works related to the 1st so far?
>>194There seem to be many people who have no interest at all in the first element but feel compelled to continue watching because it’s trending on social media, relieving their stress through anti-activities.
>>224I’m sorry, it’s too nonsensical for me to understand.
Is there any meaning in watching anime other than wanting to enjoy it?
>>224You’re already going crazy from hatred, aren’t you?
Machu ended up being used by bad adults and couldn’t do anything, right…?
>>196Who is the bad adult? That’s the question.
Inside Side 6, it’s terrorists and Sharia, but the situation has changed now.
I was told by Lalah that the white guy, who is presumed to be the mastermind, is “not evil.”
>>225If Lala herself is evil, then she wouldn’t say that Amuro is evil…
This time, the way of drawing is different, but it seems like they are just trying to do that by bringing in templates from elsewhere; nothing has changed with Machu at all.
>>197It’s the same story as when I said that Machu is real!
Since the flow up to this point has been like this, it’s certain that a normal story would develop here!
It’s just that you’re putting it on a template with a predetermined conclusion.
I won’t say it’s impossible for that to happen, but I don’t particularly feel that there has been any significant change in the depiction.
In the end, when the flow of the conversation shifts, I can only divert the topic, so it’s quickly exposed.
No matter how many times I am explained that Lalа, the rose, is a different existence from the official history, or that the information about Sharia and Machu is different, I still can’t change my perception from episodes 1 to 6.
Quattro Machuna
Hamachukan
Machu Marcelo
Raul Machuse
Machube
Various Machus have been born, haven’t they!
>>208A person’s mistakes are purged by maturity, aren’t they?
You just won’t stop using terms like reversal or anti-anti no matter how many times you’re criticized for it.
>>209Let’s start by stopping the assumption that they are the same person.
>>216It’s fine to lump together anonymous people using strange words; they’re all just crazy.
>>234Ultimately, the person who dislikes everything I like and likes everything I dislike will be the same person.
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