It’s just too lame for a man to ruin himself.
It goes without saying.
It’s something the creator really wanted to convey to Machu, so it can’t be helped…
If we’re talking about the root cause, then Machu, who lured Shuji by dropping money, is the very root cause itself, right?
>>3It was quickly overlooked here, but it’s really terrible.
>>3It was glossed over here, but it’s really terrible.
Furthermore, it was Anki who invited them to that club.
It seems like you really want to blame Anky, but it all comes down to just one word: Matu is at fault.
>>5Both sides are relatively bad in this scene.
>>20That’s because we’re blaming each other.
>>5It’s true that Matsu is to blame, but the adults who entice stupid kids and make them participate in illegal battles on their team are obviously responsible as well.
>>256There isn’t any.
>>256What responsibility is there?
It’s a completely self-responsible relationship, isn’t it?
>>273The dealer selling illegal drugs to kids probably thinks they are innocent.
>>280Hey, Machu bought the right to ride on MS.
You don’t know about Shuji either, do you?
It was Machu who got on the Zaku without permission…
If you trace back to the source, it turns out that Nyaan is the root cause.
>>8If I hadn’t stopped in front of the ticket gate, the device wouldn’t have been pressed against me, so in the end, it’s Matsu’s fault.
>>12Yonezu Kenshi is amazing!
>>12Yamatsuki Kenshi is amazing!
Even though I was in an environment where I could pull back at any time, I engaged in illegal activities for a man because it was my own choice…
Damn it, if only my phone hadn’t been destroyed in front of that ticket gate.
>>10If I had that phone and had cried to Mom…
If it were a simple matter of who is to blame, it wouldn’t have gotten this complicated.
It’s not just Anki’s fault, but regarding the interactions between Anki and Machu, Anki is to blame.
In the first place, Machu has messed up quite a bit in other areas as well.
No, Matty’s actions up to this point are because the Gundam was about to be sold, right!?
>>15As expected, Garrod Ran is the worst…
>>15As expected, Garrod Ran is the worst…
Shuuji never said he wanted to be protected.
It is undeniable that you are scum for putting minors in a life-threatening situation for your own benefit.
>>17Machu is also making a profit, you know…
>>19Even though we’re splitting the rewards enough to buy a spaceship and making things fair, suddenly selling Shu-chan for money doesn’t make any sense at all…
>>283This is simply about being scared of Zeon.
I think it’s because the hungry bug seems to be an existence with no connection at all from Anki’s perspective.
It seems like you’re not aware that the girl has gotten caught up with the guy who keeps hanging around.
>>299I said to chase after it with your head empty, but I didn’t expect it to be the pilot of the red Gundam.
>>305Are you struggling with the killing of the red Gundam? I said it at just the right moment, so you must be picking up on that, right?
>>317It might be more accurate to say that they underestimate the inability to see their surroundings during puberty, considering the situation.
In the end, is it wrong for Machu to be alone, confused, and going out of control…?
It’s not really Anki’s fault that Machu got caught and ended up like that.
There are quite a few reasons for Machu to get upset with Anki.
Anki being trash and Machu being foolish can coexist.
So… is it Yamazaki’s fault?
>>23Recently, the anime I’ve worked on besides Medalists has basically been nothing but strange ones.
The real bad adults also escape from the position of the perpetrator.
But isn’t this the only way to protect Gundam and Shu-chan from there?
>>25I could have just said to run away, but I didn’t say it because I wanted Shuji to be mine.
Well, after all, it’s just a boss of a shady part-time job.
It’s bad, but the real bosses of underworld side jobs are much more vicious, and it’s not like they were forcing people to do it by holding something over them.
Isn’t there really any need to protect it? Who can defeat the red Gundam?
>>30If they come with numbers, we usually lose.
They’ll probably escape with Zekunova before that.
>>30If the aircraft’s performance has caught up, then maybe Shii-ko…
Looking back, the person in charge of the music should have felt a bit of a crisis when it came to Yonezu and Suisei.
You don’t have to do things like Kravat.
That’s all.
They probably made this exchange because they’re focusing on Machu’s innocence.
You’re the ones who are trying to betray me first, you idiots. Well, I guess it’s not a bad situation.
>>36Even if I say I’m betraying, it’s just selling information about the red Gundam that’s already a bounty target.
What does the song have to do with the main story?
I get a thrill thinking about writing a cool woman who guides the protagonist.
It’s true that Anki is worthless, but even so, Machu had several chances to stand firm.
It must have been really interesting for Anki to see Machu…
It feels like they assert individualism for self-realization but don’t take responsibility.
It’s real.
You had already received a mysterious message before you stopped at the ticket gate, right?
It’s different from what I expected.
I feel like there are more people who hit others for that reason.
>>45Expectations are good, but you mustn’t let them down…
>>45If it’s interesting even if it’s different, then it probably won’t be criticized.
>>54Realizing that hitting is the problem in the first place.
>>56Don’t throw a tantrum just because the thread’s flow is different from what you were expecting.
>>56That assertion of only wanting to see opinions that are convenient for oneself is just self-centered, isn’t it?
As for the Pomeranians wanting to withdraw from the matter of Zieg Aks, that’s one thing.
During the time I was trying to escape while selling the information about the red Gundam and participating in the club, it was because I normally sold out Machu and the others.
Anki is terrible, to be honest.
If I reversed the gender, I saw Weathering With You.
While we agreed to make money, as an adult, I should have restrained myself to a reasonable extent, and even though I was still a child, I also stepped on the accelerator despite having been given the chance.
Both are bad.
Let’s escape from Machu! Forget about Gundam!
Because I’m thinking about things in my uterus, Shuji’s money drop is basically being overlooked, right?
>>50Why didn’t Machu go to pick up the money he dropped?
Well, you know, old people can’t hold back anymore.
Anki is a bad adult who consistently uses children for their own convenience.
As for other Pomeranians, Anki was definitely instigating.
Although Machi is reckless for getting on,
It is already cruel to lure children, who still have a hard time discerning right from wrong, into a path of evil.
Eye boogers and nose boogers.
>>58Isn’t it strange that the protagonist’s side is like that…?
>>62Is something strange?
There are certainly bad adults.
It’s already past the point where we can just blame the adults…
I’ve certainly seen a lot more complaints recently.
The choice of words has become oddly off, and the content of the criticism seems somewhat misaligned as well.
I don’t think there are actually that many people writing, as people say.
It’s too obvious that I want to lower the quality of my work carelessly.
After this, there will be a raid, so no matter what we do here, Machu won’t be able to escape.
Anki should have told me to return to everyday life much earlier.
>>64When Nab said to go home, that was probably the last line in terms of timing.
>>82It wasn’t Anki who said it, but in the beginning, they properly said to go home, and the one not listening is actually Machu in the end.
>>90I don’t think Nab is really serious about stopping it; it seems like he only said it “properly” at that moment.
It just seems like I’m alleviating the guilt of acting unfairly towards the kids by following Anki.
Anki being bad doesn’t mean Machu is innocent just because he was deceived.
Anki is bad.
Machu is also bad.
Shu-chan is also at fault.
>>67Are you a hardcore NEET?
No matter how far you go, it’s always someone else’s fault.
Pomeranians are just petty villains on the verge of bankruptcy.
Ankie just smoothly charmed Machu.
No, in the case of Machu betraying and trying to sell Gundam, it’s 100% Machu’s side that is the victim.
>>70Victim… Victim?
As expected, it’s split into two cours, right? As expected…
I was trying to hit the barbarian key, but when the situation turned bad, saying it’s wrong to hit Machu is too funny!
Sparkle addict?
Both of us are at fault, but apart from that, I think Anki’s shortcomings are quite prominent.
Everyone is fighting only for their own ego.
The Murasame research group seems to be following the federal cause, at least on the surface.
It seems that the person with a destructive personality is getting frustrated, so it’s your fault for disappointing them!
Mach is riding around on the Jikaku Supaku by his own will.
It hit in a pretty good spot, but it didn’t hit the Anki well.
Both are trash!
Sorry, I’ve only seen the advance screening, but what Shuji had was clearly just coins, right?
Isn’t it a bit of a stretch to say you lost the payment just because you dropped it in the sewer?
>>81By the way, I’ve been curious about this for a while, but how much is that in Japanese yen?
It seems there might be a setting for gold in the Universal Century.
>>81It’s quite a hell that someone who can’t even think about such things is criticizing the work.
Is it another summary person…?
It’s an awareness anime about dark side jobs, right?
>>84If someone says something foolish like enlightenment through Gundam, then issues like anti-government activities or terrorism would be considered more problematic first.
It’s an anime that’s betting everything on speeding up the tempo as much as possible, so I think it can wrap up in the next 5 episodes.
How the evaluation turns out varies from person to person.
>>86Isn’t it effectively episode 4?
>>87Since the remaining length of the Beginning is not enough for 8 episodes, I think the story will progress to some extent in the remaining parts.
The stack of bills in the safe has a denomination of 100 Height per note.
It would be impossible for Shuji to have 3000 Haito in coins.
>>89If it’s something like a gold coin, then that’s about it.
>>89So why is it that you can’t pay for the device just because you dropped some change?
It’s not that Anki is bad; it has never hidden the fact that it was bad from the beginning.
It’s not normal! It’s amazing! I want to sparkle! I was the one who got on board, so to speak.
>>91They joined knowing it was a crime.
That’s amazing.
Even though he realized it was bad to get in touch with Sharia, Anki was a bit naive to try to make one last profit.
I ended up having to flee in my clothes with a combination of a terrorist attack and a raid.
>>92If Anki was completely underestimating Machu and the young girl…
As a result, I ended up doing something foolish myself.
It’s like a strange act of someone who only has small change but ordered an expensive device.
>>94That’s a gold coin, so Machu dropped a high-value gold coin.
Anki is a bad adult who uses children with nice-sounding words and has no intention of taking responsibility.
Even though I make them do things that carry risks of danger or death, there’s still a vague line drawn when it comes to taking away their place in society or leading them to ruin… it’s just that among villains, this is somewhat better.
No, the raid happens after Machu’s face is revealed, so it doesn’t really matter, right?
Wouldn’t you erase the evidence before fleeing?
Not long ago, a topic was posted saying not to expect child characters in anime to have an adult-level sense of ethics and judgment, and I think this work is exactly what that was about.
>>103I can understand that if it’s around middle school age, but…
>>113I mean, she’s just a high school second-year girl, around 16 or 17, right?
Isn’t it asking too much?
>>103Isn’t that more applicable to those who still say “at heart, they’re a good kid”?
>>103It seems that the ethical views of 17-year-olds are generally similar to those of Machu.
>>103I haven’t seen that story, but the children in the anime are burdened with immature judgment as part of their roles in the narrative.
Is it like saying that complaining about it won’t move the conversation forward?
What did Shuji do?
>>104It’s graffiti on the outer wall of the colony, so it’s considered property damage.
Is it illegal stay or illegal occupation in a corner of the colony?
My halo was snatched away…
Including Anki, the Pomeranian is a little rascal, and Machu is a thoughtless kid, but that aside, it’s just that the Pomeranian had a slight affection for Machu, right?
I thought the character had solidified at the point where the reaction to theft was “cool.”
So what if that’s actually pocket change?
On the one hand, you instigated participation in illegal gambling competitions, which have a high likelihood of escalating to the killing of minors.
As soon as their position became precarious, that adult tried to sell the kid’s MAV and then turned around to call the kid’s involvement in the incitement lame and made a quick getaway!
On one hand, she is a rich girl trying to escape her boring daily life by diving into illegal gambling, and after hijacking a military aircraft, she becomes infatuated with a mysterious boy she meets.
Although he sensed the betrayal in advance, he fled after committing theft and gunfire against his former comrades, only to end up caught without accomplishing anything, what a kid!
There wouldn’t be any difference there!
>>109At the point where we were both using each other, there’s no one at fault, right?
>>114Well… at the point where they’re engaging in illegal activities, both are at fault…
>>115I’m not saying that either of them is wrong.
I should have been satisfied with online casinos.
I know enough about the underground way of life to be able to do something like “kaboom!”
I guess it’s just a typical bad adult who isn’t really capable of using up a child seriously.
According to the script for the special exhibition of Ziek Ax, Shuji’s coins seem to be gold coins.
>>112Then why did you lie about having small change…?
The adult ethics in war anime are way worse!
>>117Just giving them an excuse can lead to adults with a dangerous sense of ethics killing millions with poison gas…
>>117It’s different from a regular war anime!!
It was a pretty impressive reaction even at 500 height, so it might be around 100 yen per height.
I don’t have any reason to defend either Machu or Anky, you know.
Other Gundam protagonists have also committed criminal acts, but usually the environment is pretty terrible too…
>>121Since the story is shot into the heat of battle in about the first or second episode, there are parts that become ambiguous.
>>121Camille’s family environment being messed up has nothing to do with him stealing the Gundam and causing a ruckus!
>>129The family environment is quite something, but it is a wealthy household.
>>129There isn’t any.
There are other reasons as well.
>>129The reason for stealing the Gundam and causing a ruckus is revenge for being assaulted by the Titans, so the overall environment is pretty terrible.
>>141Well then, it would mean that Machu, who nearly got caught up in the chaos caused by the military police Zaku rampaging in the city, was also in a bad environment.
>>148I think the fact that he got into a Zaku out of righteous indignation in episode 1 is viewed quite positively.
>>155I thought it was going to be a story about a reckless girl with a sense of justice who gets her heart broken because reality isn’t that simple.
I somehow got infatuated and rolled down by myself…
>>223If you were just irritated, where’s the sense of justice in that?
Are you a yuri pig or something?
>>148Don’t go to the slums.
>>157It’s strange to say not to go when the transportation is well-developed enough to get there by train and there’s nothing specifically prohibiting it.
>>160It’s silly to just blindly follow an illegal smuggler without thinking it through.
>>157If you have a strange device in your bag with today’s ethics, you would first report it to the police.
>>164To be serious, that’s the Japanese sense of ethics.
It’s normal to outright steal it overseas.
>>164Zeke Axus
Done!
>>141Could you please stop attacking soldiers just because you were scolded by a woman?
>>141Considering the life Camille had led up to that point, it seems that the Titans’ actions were justified…
>>121Until he was brainwashed by Sarses, Solan Ibrahim was an ordinary Kyrgyz person…
From there, he transformed from a KPSA child soldier into a magnificent terrorist known as a Gundam Meister.
In the first place, using a minor is pathetic for an adult.
It’s not about whether the minor has guilt or not, but rather a societal issue.
Since Klabat is deeply involved with the upper echelons of the colony, there are no good people left anymore.
It’s just like mom.
>>123Mom didn’t even know about the existence of the club, but she’s in quite a high position, so it makes me wonder how that is…
>>130Even if I say it, that’s as far as it goes… There’s still a possibility that my father knows more.
The reason for the outbreak of the One Year War is Machu, so it’s Machu’s fault.
>>126People who start saying extreme things because they can’t argue back.
The protagonist is not that young, you know, Muchu.
It’s not that I specifically used Anki’s words; I just used them as an excuse because they were convenient for me at that time.
I won’t deny that adults are trash, but…
It’s true that the protagonist’s personality is simply bad and makes it hard to like them.
I’m obsessively self-centered and blame others, clinging to men with a vague, glittery mystery word.
That man has no charm that would make him popular.
I wonder if that thing Shuji dropped when buying the device really had value commensurate with its price.
Considering the banknotes that were at Anki’s place, it seems like the price of the installer device is definitely insufficient.
>>136Not likely.
Camille is part of Generation Z.
Camille is the kind of crazy person who would go punch a soldier just because they were teased.
Well, in the end, Machu was brainwashed by Sharia Bull.
It seems that Vask is going to use Jerid on Mark 2 as an assassin for Zeon.
This ethical perspective is not even within the range of what is permissible for children.
If you shoplift, even a kid will get angry.
>>151All 17 kids have a sense of ethics similar to that of Machu.
Overall, it’s like the ethics of the immediate post-war Showa era, isn’t it?
>>158Did I contribute to that colony war in some way…?
>>158It might be like that with Nyaan, but Machu is properly differentiated and has just gone off the track.
Even Anki wouldn’t think that telling a love-stricken girl with an empty head to just charge ahead would result in a robbery.
It’s not that something specific was done wrong, but rather the lack of favorable traits is what’s problematic.
If you ask who is to blame, it’s the red Gundam and the Zieg Axes that fought in the MS battle around the Izumak Colony and ended up brawling inside the colony.
Clava is illegal, but the management is also involved with the Colony 6 government, which is driving me crazy.
Well, it’s something that a “kid who lives with his parents” wouldn’t understand since he doesn’t have a family.
The current feelings of young people are
>>169Is this what real young people’s feelings are like?
>>169You won’t understand the feelings of young people who struggle without being understood by their parents, even if you have a family yourself.
Well, those who are making a fuss probably don’t understand either side’s feelings and aren’t interested in knowing.
I wonder if being addicted to a host and losing oneself feels like this…
>>172It’s breaking down on its own from episode 1, regardless of the host.
It was Machu, not Shuji, who first suggested doing the clan battle.
However, the fact that these Ankies were using the Machus all this time while putting their own actions aside and saying they were thieves is really bad.
>>173Just because you curse a bad person as a bad person doesn’t mean that the foolishness of the one who was easily deceived by pretty words and used disappears.
I think it would have been better to set Machu at around 13 years old…
Even if I used Machu to pay off my debt, selling it would be just too lame, even if it makes me a villain.
What Machu is doing is simply that of a criminal, and that’s problematic.
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