Speaking of which, the AEUG had a bad impression from the Federation’s White even in ZZ.
>>1Is Amuro just a loser stuck in Karaba, which isn’t even Eugo?
First, please clarify the definition of a terrorist.
Eugo has the title of Anti-Earth Federation Army, but it is still an organization within the same Federation.
It’s not a terrorist organization.
>>3There are also federal soldiers and units participating in the anti-Earth Federation organization, but they are not part of the federal military organization.
>>3According to that reasoning, Mafty’s no different either.
I learned for the first time about the title of the original terrorist protagonist.
There are plenty of terrorist protagonists out there, after all.
Anti-Earth Federation Organization (International Terrorist Organization) Axis (Neo Zeon) U.C. 0081-U.C. 0088 1. Headquarters: Asteroid Axis Formed by former military personnel of the Principality of Zeon, who moved to Axis located in the asteroid belt. They declared supremacy over Earth to the Earth Federation Forces and approached the separation from gravity. They acted in a way that cut off dialogue with Earth. Around U.C. 0090, they returned to the Earth Sphere with Asteroid Axis and intervened in the Gryps Conflict. During the chaos of this conflict, Axis spread the name Neo Zeon and conducted activities from a neutral position to restore the law disrupted by war. A.E.U.G. U.C. 0084-U.C. 0090 1. Headquarters: Sweetwater 2. Earth: Fraternity City Granada They halted the operational combat capabilities in space and the reconstruction plans for Earth, creating a balanced force LGZ. They prevented reconstruction and acted in a multitude of ways. Actions also contradicted the operations led by the Earth Federation Army and ATL30/Titans that had constructed the lunar facility. The group had one of the Earth Forces involved in constructing the Titans system, which lived in the cosmic household aging plan. They recognized the economic mentions at that time and created a regime that was connected to Earth with a central perspective. The same year, a similar regime was formed. Karaba U.C. 0084-U.C. 0089 1. Headquarters: North American Melady Region 2. Headquarters: Luo-Chi Karaba aimed to defend or liberate the region in which they were rated, assisting the A.E.U.G. in the struggle against the Gaw. Using shuttle services, they conducted activities of defense in both regions. With the Gryps Conflict, many joint operations with A.E.U.G. took place, establishing key units corresponding to the combat of Karaba. They made efforts from the Quokk military to influence the residents of Sedar significantly, prosecuting and facilitating the situation with the intention of supporting A.E.U.G. and obeying. Ideatakko U.C. 0083-U.C. 0089 1. Headquarters: Space City Gryps 2. Earth: OPN City within the Universe The overabundance of colonization by the Jaguar Group included movements within the Earth Federation Army. The structural forms of the new military were developed, with operations evolved into a spaceward perspective from rectangular formations. Their requests for military support were reinforced by Pegasus Carrier Horror and Corolla, and military actions during the Gryps Conflict accelerated due to this support. The agreement of cults operated under narrow warfare in the Gryps, and the reasons for the electric taste were acknowledged. A.E.U.G. Data U.C. 0088 1. Headquarters: Underground base 2. Earth: Fraternity City Ears After the collapse of the military, there were instances of contact with enemy forces that claimed to be from Kyoto and had phone conference meetings, indicating that special factions had emerged.
I forgot the name of Hathaway, but the organization feels quite similar to Aeug.
Is Kinkeedu a terrorist too?
>>9Because I’m a space pirate.
>>10Is it alright to call pirates terrorists? Well, I guess armed groups that use violence can be considered terrorists anyway…
>>72Jupiter is a cousin of Earth.
The origin of the AEUG was a citizens’ movement, and only later did federal soldiers join in, so it’s not originally a federal organization; it’s fine to refer to it as a terrorist organization.
If Aube isn’t treated as a terrorist under that logic, then the mastermind, likely a high-ranking Federation official known as Mafty, would also cease to be considered a terrorist…
Is even a moment a terrorist?
>>13Celestial something is undoubtedly a fierce terrorist!
>>14Well, that’s pretty much how Gundam squad shows are.
>>14It’s remarkable that a conspiracy organization that actively engages in assassinations and behind-the-scenes maneuvering is portrayed as the protagonist, even including an ending reminiscent of a post-human scenario in science fiction.
>>105At the point of W, I was a full-fledged terrorist.
If the guy from the Federation is involved, then it’s no longer terrorism.
The secret organization Mahfti created by the federal general will no longer be considered terrorists, which is just unthinkable.
TOP is the chairman of Anaheim, after all, Eugo.
Are Amuro and Bright considered on leave during the AEUG era? Does it mean they have left the military?
>>18Amuro will end up having escaped.
I wonder how Bright is… I guess he might be considered a runaway too…
It seems that after defeating the Titans, it will properly be regarded as a military achievement.
>国際テロ組織Isn’t it just a regular terrorist organization?
The victor writes the history.
Eugou is the righteous regular army.
You can see from ZZ that the AEUG, which won against Gryps, along with Bright, descended to Earth and were called private soldiers of Anaheim by Rome and White, so there were parts where they were not considered an official military with ZZ.
It’s just a matter of the Federal Army doing their job properly.
On the contrary, it seems there are fewer protagonists from the establishment.
>>24Someone said that Gundam is something that those who rebel against the system ride.
>>28It’s hard to say he’s part of the establishment, but Bellri-kun is a devout believer in the Scord religion.
Anti-Earth Federation Organization (International Terrorist Organization)
AEUG U.C.0084-U.C.0090
1. Base: Sweet Water
2. Base: Lunar City Granada
A private military force aimed at halting the restoration cooperation of each side in space and the redevelopment of Earth.
It is linked to private movements, and many volunteers are participating.
In the year 85 of the Cosmic Century, following the 30 Punch Incident, they sought cooperation from the Lunar Corporate Alliance and equipped themselves with their own military forces.
They are also recruiting dissatisfied soldiers from the Earth Federation Forces, which is led by the Titans, to increase their supporters.
In the year UC 0087, the failure of the Jaburo assault operation turned the Earth Federation Forces into enemies, but by revealing the truth through the “Dakarl Declaration,” the situation was reversed, and support from the upper echelons of the government was successfully secured.
However, the AEUG itself was severely exhausted during the Gryps Conflict, and in the following Hamaan War, it took action to suppress the aftermath of the internal conflict in Side 3.
The soldiers who joined the AEUG returned to the Earth Federation Forces without any punishment, and some of them were assigned to units like the Londo Bell.
Aren’t there just a bunch of terrorist protagonists in this series?
Ero-terrorist?
The second installment of the series, Z, is too rock-like for featuring a terrorist as the main character.
Domon is, in a way, on the side of the establishment.
When considering whether descending to Jaburo and using force to elect the congress can be seen as terrorism… what do you think?
>No.1315787276At least try to organize it a bit.
>>33Are you organized?
By definition, they are terrorists, but most of the acts that Japanese people imagine when they hear the word “terror” are mostly carried out by the Titans.
The Titans are no longer around, so return to your original unit! I’m already back.
At that level, AEU is the Federal Army, isn’t it…
Mafuti can never become part of the Federation army, no matter what is said.
It is believed that the gap will not be closed.
>>36Maftee is ultimately an icon and a sacrifice for the people’s uprising…
>>36Being told to return to the original unit means that the current situation is separate from the Federation forces.
Amuro from the first work (1st) and Amuro from the fourth work (Char’s Counterattack) are part of the regular army, so they are on the side of the establishment.
The second work’s Kamiyuu, the third work’s Judou, and the fifth work’s Hathaway are affiliated with an anti-Earth Federation government organization and are treated as terrorists.
The sixth work, “C-Book,” is on the side of the establishment.
The seventh work, Usso, is a resistance.
>>37Space Ark is a resistance group that operates outside the Federation’s command structure.
Veteran Cosmo is leading the resistance with civilians.
The Space Ark is being used because Cosmo can utilize it as a symbol of the resistance.
Although it’s still on the side of the establishment, it’s closer to Usso.
>>56Since there are regular soldiers like Leary, the situation is different.
It’s funny that the Titans are featured here, of course.
I was quite shocked to find out that the AEUG’s Jaburo descent operation seems to be larger in scale than Zeon’s.
Thanks to politician John Bauer, those who were treated like terrorists, such as Amuro and Bright, were able to return to their original units.
If this reasoning holds, then Quack Salver is a general of the Federation, and former soldiers like Gauman and Hathaway might be able to return to the military as well.
I don’t know, but…
>No.1315788962Even if you say there is a difference, a terrorist organization is still a terrorist organization.
It seems like you want to say something is different, but…
The AU is a terrorist organization.
>>44Well, right from the first episode, those guys are launching an attack on a military base to steal the Gundam…
>>48In fact, it’s illegal that Char is using the fact that his family registration data has disappeared to take over a soldier’s identity through contractors.
How are people from the AEUG who are not federal soldiers treated?
>>46It’s a civilian (terrorist), isn’t it?
Maftee is a white terror organization.
It can be said that it is virtually ◯◯.
Stop mixing in anything and everything when we talk.
They’re doing the same thing with Gundam certification, right?
>>50You are also Gundam.
Camille, asking for the rank of lieutenant, is quite bold, isn’t she?
What other term can you use to describe a private organization that launches attacks on the Titans (Federation Forces) and steals their weapons, besides calling it a terrorist organization?
A high school student who punched a Self-Defense Force officer graduated from the National Defense Medical College at Haneda.
If they were employed as a public servant, it would be a scandal.
It’s too confusing that Brex, a federal soldier, can create and operate the AEUG without any repercussions.
>>57Personally, I have a strong impression that the Brex themselves are a faction within the federation military that is opposed to the mainstream, and in the end, it’s just a factional struggle within the federation military between the AEUG and the Titans.
Well, I think it’s only natural that opinions vary in the thread since the setting hasn’t been fully established yet.
If you say that, then Heero is a terrorist too.
>>59That’s true.
What did you say that for?
>>59There is no doubt that he is a pure terrorist, but…
>>59Kou and Kira are terrorists.
Operation Meteor is terrorism, no matter how you look at it!
It’s too dirty that the Titans, which were endorsed by the federal government, are involved…
The Eugo discipline is pretty lax, and I have a feeling I don’t really want to call it a military.
>>65It’s relaxed enough that the captain can work part-time at a hamburger shop.
>>65Because it’s the Argama Private Army…
It seems that there was a discussion around the idea that in that world, you shouldn’t have armed mobile suits without permission, especially around the judge’s mace.
Well, even without considering that, the fact that they were launching a preemptive attack meant that AEU was already treated as terrorists by the federal government.
The Blex should have been judged for participating in a terrorist organization, but they were simply assassinated.
>>68It’s surprising that active-duty military personnel have seats in Congress.
Which backward country is this?
The protagonist is a terrorist, too much!!
It was originally an anti-government organization, right? Then yes.
As a result, they joined the regular forces, so they are no longer terrorists.
That’s the end of the story.
>>73To be honest, they are just like the people in the Meiji government.
Some people say they are terrorists, but in terms of post-war treatment, that’s not considered the mainstream view.
>>134Well, there may actually be something similar to the events of the late Edo period.
In extreme cases, the winner is the government.
It’s just a story from a novel.
The Brex is using the budget related to Jupiter for the construction of the Argama without permission, so they mentioned that they would eventually be judged for it.
>>74Dugachi suddenly got angry.
The organization that involves Lacus Clyne in pushing Kira and Athrun into war is…
Not a terrorist?
>>75AA after Alaska is a terrorist organization.
The federation was still healthy back when there were organizations opposing those that were carrying out extreme repression.
It feels strange that while the Titans were treated as terrorists and expelled from the Federation Army, the AEUG, which was absorbed into the Federation Army, is also considered a terrorist group.
>>77It’s not weird or anything.
There is only a time of terrorists and a time of the regular federal army.
>>77Isn’t this about the story of the absorbed Reverse Char?
In ZZ, they’re getting dragged into unnecessary tasks like rescuing refugees from the Dublin colony, which shouldn’t even be done, while the A.E.U.G. and Karaba are being forced to handle it.
>>86That is the result of the Zeon faction breaking away from Eugo and the Federation faction remaining.
It seems like I’m forced to clean up the mess that the federal forces can’t handle…
Because it would be the same as how Amuro, who could have been treated as a criminal for impulsively copying Gundam, was turned into a soldier and made to fight by Bright’s authority in the 1st.
Z likely tried to bring a new perspective with Camille, who belongs to a terrorist organization (anti-Earth Federation government organization) that has been opposed to the Federation forces from the very beginning.
The Titans are, by definition, white terrorists, so it’s a battle of terrorists vs. terrorists.
>>81Federal Army (Terrorists) vs Terrorists (Federal Army) vs Terrorists (Terrorists) (All ideologies are the same)
It’s a hellish battle like a three-way struggle, the Gryps Conflict…
>>81That’s a perspective at the time of Char’s Counterattack, but at the time of Zeta, the Titans are the regular army and only the AEUG are the terrorists.
>>90This is the first time I’ve seen someone recognize Neo Zeon as an official military force.
>>94You properly signed the treaty, right!?
>>95That is null and void because the federation that is forming treaties with terrorists is completely rotten.
Look, Side 3 seems unhappy too.
>>90Isn’t it white terror when the regular army commits terrorism?
The Titans are both the regular army and terrorists, right?
If you go by a real sense, Auugo is the same as the Unification Church.
>>83Is the Murakame Institute pretending to be a refuge for refugee girls while actually brainwashing them with drugs?
AEUG was half-collapsed by the time of Z and disappeared after being absorbed by the Federation after ZZ.
Are you being treated as if you existed but didn’t?
>>85The writing was bad, but we defeated the last Titans, though we’re in a rough state and have lost our leader.
When I called Lux a terrorist, I got tangled up with someone who was like, “Are you an anti-seed?” I really don’t understand.
My favorite is Lacus.
Hiiro and Setsuna are already professional terrorists, huh…
I was laughing about how the regular army split and there was a civil war.
I’m scared that America might end up like that.
The Gryps War has a disproportionately large impact relative to its scale.
The Eugo is said to be killing civilians, so of course that’s the case.
>>97The Green Noah attack alone has caused MS to crash in the city, and Quattro has destroyed Camille’s house.
This area is indeed something else…
In the novel of Char’s Counterattack, Char said that he intended to incorporate the Eugo guys directly into the Axis military.
Well, that kind of structure can only be done by a terrorist organization, not by regular forces.
You have some free time, huh?
The protagonist who is a terrorist is on the brink of mental collapse.
So Z was an anime that depicted karma.
>>100It’s a reminder for the otaku who were watching that anime at the time, in a way that’s about karma.
It’s only the second installment, and the faction is already a mess, Z.
Camille is just saying that he only does things like stealing the Gundam, shooting vulcans at the MP, and trying to crush them.
>>107In just Episode 1, this guy has done crazier things than Machu, who took 7 (or 6) episodes to do it.
>>113The fact that you’re suddenly hitting a soldier who isn’t doing anything is already more problematic than what Machu is doing.
>>123Crab.
>>123What’s wrong with being a man!!
>>107Position…? Only…?
The usual smelly guy is bringing up the usual excuses again…
Hide it a little.
Tomino: “If we just keep soaking ourselves in anime like this, I think it might be a problem.”
Rather, I really wanted to convey the message that the more someone earnestly watches a work like Gundam, the more they should be careful.
When considering the position of presenting my work to the public, I really disliked the idea of sending out pieces that merely sell toys irresponsibly.
I mentioned that there may have been voices of resentment from the sponsor side, but perhaps the things I feared actually didn’t exist.
So it might not have been heard.
As of now, there’s no way to confirm it.
In a way, I also had a fortune-teller-like feeling.
“I put in the message ‘If you keep this up, you’ll end up like Camille’ as the first thing.”
However, that ending only left me with a feeling of unease after it was completed.
That was the thing I disliked the most, and in the process of creating it, I was a willful offender.
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White Terror refers to the repression and violent direct actions carried out by rulers, power holders, or counter-revolutionary factions (rulers of monarchies or conservatives) against political adversaries.
There are unjust arrests and censorship that are conducted with the approval of national organizations and power. It is also called white terror because it derives from the French term (Terreur blanche).
Generally, it differs from mere right-wing terrorism as it assumes some form of state involvement.
Isn’t Usso treated as a terrorist?
Since the members of Celestial Whatever had shown their resolve to face judgment from the very beginning.
It got a bit vague, but…
>>117I was prepared for the sacrifices for the upcoming dialogue… but then the crucial dialogue came immediately, and I was too overwhelmed to deal with it.
>>117That place is like a much more dangerous Shockers than other organizations, creating androids and embedding backdoors in the world’s computers, depending on how you handle it…
It’s only natural that the Innovades would grow arrogant and rebel within the main story… It was precisely thanks to the Gundams that we managed to correct the course and achieve a good landing.
It’s the same with AEUG and Titans, but when it comes to the conflict between Quattro and Haman, it seems like they are just engaged in internal squabbles or factional disputes at their core…
By the way, the Liga Militia is also killing citizens of Side 2, who are neither Zanscare nationals nor active members of the Gachiyu Party.
In the novel version, since they are invading the colony, it’s only natural that such sacrifices occur, so I was just accepting it.
>>119Is this the story of when I drilled a hole in the Amelia Colony?
>>122At that time, there was someone who went crazy and shot beams even more than the attacking Ligamillitia…
>>122That’s right.
According to the settings, there are many people on Side 2 who are not followers of Maria.
Episodes 1 and 2 of Z are often confused.
Camille started piloting the Mark II from episode 2.
Some people think that because of the Brex, it’s an official organization within the federation.
Normally, AEU is a secret organization, so it’s not publicly represented, and people like Char, Apolly, and Roberto, who are former Zeon members, are just there.
>>121It’s not a public organization.
It feels like there is a bit too much physical violence in Z.
It’s really stupid to think that AEUG isn’t a terrorist organization.
>>127Response from a Titans soldier who witnessed the Jaburo explosion.
The abandonment of the colonies was supposed to be aimed at improving the Earth’s environment, right?
Has it gotten better in the Universal Century era?
>>129There’s no way things will get better after all that fighting…
>>129Since things are rapidly deteriorating, by around UC 220 years after the collapse of the Federation, are food issues becoming serious in G-Saver?
Camille-san is definitely angry.
The sharpness is different.
>>130What is amazing about Camille is
In the back of my mind, I am aware that I am doing something bad, questioning what I am doing to myself while I act.
I’ll teach you the fear of being unilaterally beaten while knowing that reason is messed up! That’s what he’s doing.
As Camille begins to understand the dire situation he is in, he starts trying to hold people together, realizing that this is not the time to be acting recklessly.
I failed at everything, but…
>>132The fact that Camille has built up trust is what helped us defeat Sirocco.
>>153No one could be helped, but the only solace is that there was a little bit of meaning in the end.
Tomino: “If you keep watching anime seriously, you’ll end up like the protagonist of this! (Mental breakdown)”
Viewer: “Are you serious?”
As a result of the victory, Auehugo was recognized as an organization of the Federation, while as a result of the defeat, Mahfty was recorded in history as a terrorist.
Isn’t it the case that the person behind Mafuti has not revealed any connection to Mafuti at all?
>>148Quack Salver’s true identity is not explicitly stated, so we don’t know who they are in the first place.
From the descriptions and what has been prepared, it is known that they are federal officials, but it is unclear whether it is an individual or multiple people.
Terrorists are the winners if they succeed.
It’s the most difficult to say what Aeuropo’s position is.
The representative is a federal legislator and a brigadier general in the federal military.
Members include regular federal soldiers, remnants of Zeon, and civilians.
The sponsor is Anaheim, so there is also a private army aspect here.
I have also formed an alliance with Axis, and I’ve made a promise to recognize the restoration of the Zabi family.
Is it correct to define the AEUG as terrorists when they are no longer judged as such?
Rigamility originally was an anti-federal organization in the novel version, but it teamed up with the federal army to fight against Zanscare.
Aeu is a being whose position changes as time flows more, so I think it’s difficult to define it rigidly.
Anti-federal organization Osugi
>>157Well, the story of Z is that everything collapsed when an awful guy came from outside after I pushed too hard to make it happen.
Isn’t there basically no point in existing once the Titans collapse? That’s why the AEUG quickly disappeared as an organization.
Existence is quite complicated.
>>158They properly left behind the successor organization, Egumu.
If Mafty had won, those people who were trying to pass special bills and Maha would have been recognized as an anti-federal organization and could have become the loyal army.
>>159What would they have to do to win?
>>161If we can withdraw the special bill, then it’s a win.
>>161In Salva’s mind, the intensification of anti-Federation activities through the birth of Maranbiji due to Mafti’s sacrifice.
The goal is to achieve a democratic regime revolution through that.
>>186In other words, there was never a route where Mahfty lived and became the government forces from the start!
>>194It was established with the premise of being a sacrifice from the very beginning.
>>194In the first place, Mafty is not active to become a government army.
>>209Thinking about it this way, the AEUG that fought to become the government forces seems a bit off…
>>220To be specific about just that part, yes.
It’s a process for the easing of oppression by the federation…
>>220The Anti-Titans had a relatively conditional struggle because they had a goal.
Mafuti is truly a revolution.
>>220In the end, it was only those who joined after the Dakar speech and tried to ride the winning horse who became the government army, right?
It seems that there were also quite a few members of the Zeon-affiliated AEUG who went to Axis.
>>186In the end, they may have aimed for that, but it is not explicitly stated.
>>159Rather, isn’t Maha on the recommending side, Mahfī?
>>169From the perspective of just lifting it to Earth, that’s true, but considering the matters around the bill, Mahā is basically an enemy.
>>159One of Mahfti’s goals is to stop such bills, but it’s not being done in order to become a government force.
I am not trying to overthrow the government, nor do I plan to crush Maha.
Kenneth: “Mafty wants to improve the Federation.”
If you don’t understand that what Muhaftee is trying to do is this, you’ll fundamentally misunderstand it.
>>181
>>181(A dance that encourages reflection)
After all, the Titans, who are the opposing faction, are completely outrageous as a security force, considering they drop poison gas in colonies and almost drop colonies on the moon…
Where does Mahfty get their funding from?
>>165MS is also being diverted from the federal regular army.
>>172MS is from Anaheim, and the movie version also includes the setting where Anaheim provides Messers to Mafty.
It’s a bit funny that even within the Federation Forces, there’s a unanimous opinion of “those guys are the worst” regarding the Titans’ excessive methods.
>>166From a positional standpoint, Blue Cosmos is closer.
>>170It is the radical group Blue Cosmos that can operate freely within a formal military organization.
Well, if it’s a certain defeat in the political struggle, it’s a level of disgrace that the federal army would want to purge and make it as if it never happened.
>>166When I look at things like AOZ, I think the Earth Federation Army is really terrible too…
EAURO is closer to a revolution than to terrorism.
If you press down on what a revolution is, isn’t it terrorism? If asked, I’d say yeah.
>>167Rather, it’s that a successful act of terrorism is a revolution.
What is the difference between a terrorist, a resistance group, an anti-government organization, and a revolutionary?
The troublesome part of the AEUG is that it is a faction of the Federation and an anti-Federation organization.
There are things where neither side is wrong…
So after the annihilation of the Titans, former federal soldiers were able to return to the Federation without any worries.
There are probably a lot of Federation soldiers and officers who think “Death to the Space Noids!” but
By the way, it seems like there are quite a few people who really dislike the Titans.
In other words, if you keep lashing out within the Federation, it’s only natural that you’d end up with no allies.
>>178Shut up, general nobody!
The Titans suck, and that’s the premise of an organization that unites everyone’s feelings and ends with a purge.
I went overboard and it became a problem…
Mafty received the Kshatriya from Anaheim, after all.
There is no doubt that Anaheim is cooperating.
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