I think it’s great that the concept of the monkey NT completely denies the thought of Zeon Daikun’s new potential for humanity, and that it was refuted by the presumed Garma.

There is none!

>>2

It must have happened!

What’s wrong with a monkey having the ability to talk in outer space?

>>3

There’s nothing wrong.

It’s like the very idea of a Newtype mindset, which suggests that only humanity has been chosen with such potential or privilege, is collapsing.

In other words, the ideology of Zeon is basically that of a chosen people.

It was inevitable that figures like Giren and Char, who inherited that ideology, committed massacres.

>>4

It’s more like a chosen people mentality, where humans expelled from Earth comfort themselves with the idea that “we are the good humanity that advanced into space for the sake of Earth!”

>>64

Carrying the expectations of those people was NT, and NT had become a myth chosen only for humanity.

Shrunken because of the monkeys.

>>4

I didn’t inherit it; what kind of reading makes it turn out like this?

>>4

Rather, what I inherited the most was a noble called Cosmo, with whom I have no connection at all.

>>83

There must be a connection, right…

The Zabi family is probably also a part of the Cosmic Nobility.

>>90

Cosmic aristocratism already existed during the One Year War…

>>95

Houzeri said he admired Giren, didn’t he?

>>101

Furthermore, it is said that they admired Amuro as well.

>>104

Is there a longing for both at the same time?

I don’t really understand, Hauserly.

Originally, there were encouraging statements about space immigration.

It’s a story that shatters the myth of the Newtype itself, the fantasy that if we become Newtypes, we can understand each other, and the possibilities surrounding it.

I’m a bit curious about what would have happened if this monkey had been discovered around the time of the Gryps War.

>>7

Char was so upset that Hamarn was peering into his heart, saying “Seriously, don’t mess with me,” and at that point, he probably concluded that anyone who intrudes into the depths of a person’s heart is a jerk, regardless of any evolution.

>>42

It’s just like how to make a phone call or post something online.

I think that if the number of new types increases, it will become a matter of manners.

>>44

Isn’t it a bit rude that you can see without permission, and that the other person can tell they’ve been seen, especially in the sensitivity between NTs?

>>8

The box says something about a new humanity, but the fact that those who really resemble Newtypes have appeared is crazy. Both the politicians and the Bist Foundation were flustered, but in the end, the idea that NT can get used to monkeys could lead to trivialization.

It’s like wanting to ruthlessly kill only the authoritarian types and those who desire the banner of glory…

If we distinguish between those who have adapted and those who have not among humanity, isn’t that a problem?

There are already plenty of areas where humans fall short compared to beasts in terms of physical performance.

>>16

In the end, if that happens, it will turn into the war between NT and OT that Doctor Krust and Kshiria feared.

If you go to space, it makes sense that your empathy would become much stronger and that you might evolve or adapt to have eyes on the back of your head, but what is up with Rita and Lalah?

>>18

Isn’t it just a case that the NT in the main story of Kurobon is simply a power that was already possessed and has now blossomed, rather than being any kind of evolution?

This is not official!!!

>>21

The Kurobon itself is treated like an official entity now.

It’s not official because it doesn’t look like Garma and it doesn’t definitively say it’s Garma, so it’s safe!! It’s like that.

>>23

If it’s been visualized, then that’s the official position.

It’s lost because it disappeared along with the UC footage, so its recognition is low now.

The UC anti just rampaged around, making a fuss.

There isn’t much difference once you go into space.

So this crow teacher is

>>22

Alien

I said it wasn’t official.

Valves included in the MS Encyclopedia as semi-official works.

>>24

Well, it’s ambiguous whether they are truly a newtype or just unusually perceptive.

If only dolphins have Newtype abilities, then it’s not surprising at all for monkeys to have them too.

>>26

That is from After Colony, so it is a completely separate work.

The emergence of a monkey NT in the Universal Century would have such an impact.

>>33

But the animal NT! wasn’t that outrageous after all.

The Newtype that Daikun was aiming for is different from Amuro’s and Char’s Newtype…

>>27

In short, is he one of those who is obsessed with the “superman” idea mentioned by Nietzsche and Hitler?

>>32

That’s right, the advocate is Nietzsche.

In the first place, we can’t continue living the same way we did in the cradle of Earth, cozy and comfortable, in the vastness of space. So, let’s make spending time in space our primary goal and strive to become beings that surpass human endeavors.

Because they are more faithful to instincts and senses than humans, it seems easy to become what humans call a Newtype…

If NT is the evolved form of humanity, then OT has people who want to drop Axis on Earth and say things like “die”…

It’s huge to confront the notion that a noble ability is something only recognized in humans, as even monkeys are the same.

That’s why V’s psychicker is visibly engaged in healing and other practices, but its core is largely influenced by women’s eugenics ideology.

Well, it’s quite ambiguous whether the NT that Daikun is proposing refers to the NT that appears in the main story of Gundam…

During the time when Daikun was saying things like “fluffy new humanity” and ridiculous things were written in Laplace’s box, the occurrence of massive massacres by Zeon and the emergence of people like Amuro and Lalah, who could use scientifically new abilities, complicated the story.

Newtype = New Humanity linked together.

If a new type emerges through the development of senses, it seems like wild animals would be more likely to become it.

The idea that humanity will soon evolve to the next stage, just like monkeys became humans, got mixed up with the notion of a psychic who happened to appear.

Finally, how much have humans evolved compared to monkeys? It’s almost too ironic that monkeys and Zeon’s Zaku overlap in this context.

It’s fine if Newtypes appear in other animals, but the fact that it leads to a diminishment associated with such an arrogant name as Newtype is significant.

At this time, the boxes are open, the remnants of Zeon have been annihilated, and it’s an era where the term Newtype is treated as occult, so it was allowed.

In Char’s case, it’s fine that he remains consistent in forcing humanity to migrate to space due to the Earth’s cooling, but now he’s also aiming for awakening as a Newtype like his father. Even if the means don’t change, I wonder if he’ll ultimately become despairing once he realizes nothing changes even as a Newtype.

It’s probably not official because we’re doing it just for fun, like a bar to doodle at.

Actually, there is an NT that lies in Hasegawa-sensei’s works.

I remembered the caveman from ZZ’s OP.

Even if all of humanity becomes enhanced humans and secures NT abilities, ultimately, there will be NTs who lie, and it will definitely become complicated.

>>51

That said, order is born from chaos.

Just as disorder arises from order.

Well, Director Tomino also said that the Newtype theory was a failure.

Since there probably won’t be anyone complaining even if Newtypes aren’t an innovation that leads humanity to peace.

Let’s watch it because we can see it for free!

I really like the story of The Little Prince; it’s great as a short story collection.

In G Generation, they had implemented The Little Prince and the Final Soldier, right?

The “Newtype” spoken of in Crossbone isn’t an innovation but a regression, a return to abilities that humans originally possessed but weren’t using.

So that word became obsolete, and I became a talent known as a psychic.

>>58

Moreover, it’s interesting that the ideology is closest to Jamitoff of all people.

>>58

In short, this is more of an interpretation like an X-rounder rather than the traditional meaning of NT, right?

The ability of organisms to read the natural environment has evolved to adapt to the vacuum of space, where there is nothing but human intention.

It seems possible to rationalize it like that.

A true NT is truly a being that can completely understand each other, akin to a genuine god.

Not only Char, but also Amuro, Lalah, and Camille are not real.

The myth created by Zeon’s father is inherited by his son Casval!

At the very end, Garma Zabi ended the legend!

It’s amazing that even by chance, it becomes such an artistic flow.

It seems that the Federation, in making NT-D and Nitro, was serious about wanting to exterminate mutant newtypes.

>>65

It’s originally a unicorn type meant to break NT mythology.

Moreover, rather than breaking myths, the eldest son of that plan caused inexplicable phenomena and was no longer treated as an MS.

>>65

Since the results from the psycho-communication weapons were too overwhelming, it would have been necessary to prepare in case they couldn’t secure Newtype soldiers.

If a psycho machine like Neo Zeong appears, then of course.

I can’t just let anything happen.

In the first place, rather than understanding each other in the main story NT itself,

Since NTs are also choosing to fight against each other, they are ultimately just tools of war.

>>67

I wonder what will happen to Gikax? Machu still has a positive image of the resonance with the sparkle.

>>69

A high school girl who was harboring dissatisfaction with life and a desire for liberation ended up having a mystical experience, which feels rather ominous.

>>67

In that regard, since humans cannot understand each other at all, there is only the complementary plan to make everything into one.

…the despair and decisiveness of Anno that he carried out.

>>74

It’s been nearly 30 years since then, but Anno is doing well, so it’s commendable that he said goodbye to Evangelion.

Well, it’s not strange to have a mix of things that are somewhat like NT and those that are philosophically similar to NT.

The characters in the story also don’t really differentiate that aspect.

>>71

Later on, it can end up being treated merely as a telepath.

It’s a time when we can’t understand.

Wouldn’t the story’s flow change drastically if cloned NT monkeys were discovered during the Gryps Conflict?

In the end, even if a true Newtype were to be born, they would not become a guiding presence for humanity, which can only become hermits.

>>77

Maybe it was Jesus Christ who tried to do that…

New Ape, huh…

>>81

Moreover, that guy is not only failing to be kind to humans but is also gleefully planning to carry out unnecessary killings while riding an MS.

Is this the end of NT’s potential…?

Essentially, the evolution assumed by the Newtype theory and the ability to resonate with psychommunication arising from space dwellers are probably unrelated.

A relationship where we mutually rely on each other as a foundation for ideals and practice.

But during the Turn A era, Newtypes successfully immigrated to outer space.

>>84

I wonder how many seed ships have been sent out to outer space besides the Jupiter Uncle team.

>>87

Although there are conflicts, seeking a frontier outside is constructive.

>>84

Considering what Lalah said about abandoning her physical body, it seems that the setting of G-Reco’s mutation would undergo quite a dramatic change.

>>84

I haven’t done it…

If the future of Occult NT is like the moment Banaji was in a state of liberation, then there’s nothing good about it…

>>88

Evolving into a higher existence is good, but you need to take responsibility as a man; I also like being pulled back.

It was Gihren who replaced the Newtypes of Zeon with eugenics ideology, and Zeon is different.

NT is just a special psychic, isn’t it?

>>92

The cause and effect are reversed.

The suddenly appearing superpower user was considered to align with a concept that had been proposed before.

Once the psycho machine is prepared, it is revealed to have the weakness of being easily psycho-hacked when receiving stronger external forces, causing the psycho machine to fade away.

The O! What’s wrong, why won’t you move!? When I hear that it was actually this, I can only agree.

If anything, the Newtype proposed by Zeon is not about psychics.

Indeed, the Cosmo nobility is evil…

Even if a new type appears, at least they should show up in a more peaceful era, away from the battlefield…

>>100

I wonder if such an era will really come.

>>103

Isn’t it said that there hasn’t been a single piece of war since humanity was born, for about 500 days?

Well, it seems difficult if one cannot shed the shell of a living being.

Zeon Daikun proposed the Newtype theory, urging the citizens of the colonies to strive, and as a result, he expressed the desire for the independence of the colonies.

Using that charisma to carry out assassinations, the Zabi family established the Side 3 eugenics ideology, declared itself the Principality of Zeon, and destroyed other colonies.

What are you even talking about saying that the Zabi family has inherited the will of Zeon? Seriously, what have you been watching for over 40 years?

>>102

It’s not so much that it’s been inherited, but rather distorted, right?

>>113

I will focus the story of the entire colony solely on Side 3.

In the first place, it’s not a chosen people ideology, but I’ll make it into one.

What they’re doing by committing genocide is too extreme.

Well, I feel like there were countless sci-fi stories for a while suggesting that a new form of human evolution would be psychics.

Mainly during the science fiction golden age around 1960-1980.

In reality, it’s just that the ability of people living sparsely in the harsh environment of space to communicate with each other has been enhanced so that they don’t feel lonely, and that’s how it gets integrated into weapons for killing; that’s why war is nothing good.

Actually, Garma Zabi is not originally a space noid…

Newtypes aren’t just some convenient evolution of humanity, you know? They touched on this in Gundam X, but this is even worse.

When the warp gate from outer space opened in the Turn A manga, it was a bit frightening to see the evolved, slimy remnants of humanity come through.

It’s changed too much.

>>110

It feels like there’s a subtle sense of still being alive despite being contaminated and preyed upon after a nanohazard has occurred.

>>110

The ultimate answer of science fiction to the evolution of life has always been in the form of spiritual lifeforms or energy lifeforms, so the very state of maintaining a material form is immature.

>>125

So it’s the Human Instrumentality Project, huh?

>>126

Neon Genesis…

>>125

The Psycho-Frame of Gundam ultimately leads to the story of humanity’s ascension to higher-dimensional energy.

The new type from the Turn A era has probably become fundamentally different from the old humanity even in terms of the mind.

While it is problematic from a Christian perspective to say that we are the special beings created by God.

It seems that all animals evolve adaptively when they enter space, so let’s actively upgrade humanity too! With a little adjustment in that direction, I don’t think there’s any conflict with the NT ideology even if the monkeys awaken.

>>115

But in the end, it’s minimized to something just like a monkey, and I think it’s amazing considering things like the charisma debuff at that point.

The Zabi family and the Rona family.

I wonder which one is crazier…

>>117

Both of them are doing the same thing…

>>117

The Rona family became wealthy and climbed the social ladder, but as a result of their nobless oblige, they are now facing the problem of being unable to support too many people, which is impossible!

In the first place, we are definitely more decent than the Zabi family, who thinks they don’t need anyone else because they are superior.

>>117

Zabi seems like a more decent guy after all.

>>127

The depiction of the Rona family is too sparse, while in the first one, everyone is portrayed with a certain level of humanity.

>>127

It’s only about whether you are doing it with a correct understanding of what you are doing.

>>117

It’s the worst two options, isn’t it…?

Maybe Turn X actually had evolved humanity that transcended the physical body…

From Gihren’s perspective, the Newtype ideology is just a front.

I accept the existence of such psychics.

Many people who haven’t seen “Childhood’s End” or “Close Encounters of the Third Kind” say nonsensical things because they don’t even grasp the content of the story.

It feels like there’s no other way for Hozeli either, you know.

Even though Garma and the Zabi family are committing mass murder, what he’s thinking is that he wants to show off and get his father to approve of his marriage with her! What a complete idiot!

Is it normal?

>>135

It was causality that created the opportunity for such a guy to indirectly destroy the NT myth.

>>138

It seems that Mr. Tobikartis might have provided a surprising three-penny SF story to Ms. Rosemary.

Zabi and Rona seem to be headed for a insane showdown between Gihren and Housley.

It’s unique that even though they often had contexts like converting mental power into energy to exhibit super power or super robots, the image of them still being more military-oriented is stronger.

It seems that Professor Hasegawa doesn’t know much about the Zeon aliens, and it doesn’t seem like he writes in a style similar to that of an anonymous person.

>>140

I can’t believe that the insights of someone who draws things like Half Zeta or Giganthys’ Counterattack are shallower than ours.

>>142

So the Zeon alien topic was a viewpoint of people with deep insight…

It’s not surprising if the official stance changes with the times.

Most of the world-setting of the Universal Century comes from books.

We understand Gundam the best.

The new type that becomes accustomed to training in India is humanity adapted to space, isn’t it?

I think it’s an interesting development for those who are promoting the New Type, regardless of whether it’s official or not.

You can avoid the official release even in Dam E publication…

It must have happened, right?

It’s hard to pronounce, isn’t it?

It became, didn’t it?

I wonder if that was no good.

I remember somewhere that Tomino read about a Newtype who can lie in the V Gundam side story and then chose to work on the Crossbone’s artwork.

“Dame-E is the end result of cyber comics.”

It seems that Gundam comics have become very strict with Sunrise checks since sometime, but was it still lenient during this period?

A human like Zoltan can’t evolve in just 100 years! Similarly, the side that denies NT theory is more persuasive, right?

>>154

In the first place, it’s a concept that Director Tomino already threw out with Z, so there’s hardly anything to reinforce it.

The creation finally allowed me to find hope in New Types after watching both the first and last escape scenes.