Don’t mess with me!

>>5

Aslan says that, but he has never actually beaten me!

If it had been right after Destiny, that scene might have been a problem.

Someday I’ll probably die like Toru!

Because you all are unreliable! That makes sense.

Well, that seems like it could be filled with a comeback saying “Well, you too!”

Stop it, Athrun! The captain is!

Who the heck is Nicole?!

Who the hell is Thor!?

Who is Mayu!?

>>15

So, did it end up causing casualties? That’s useless.

>>16

Until now, Aslan had a position, but this time it’s a good scene as a friend without any position.

Let’s go after we properly punch Kira! Aslan is amazing for doing that.

>>20

(I will definitely get back at you someday…)

If I say something like this, it would probably cause an uproar…

I’m sorry, Captain, for being weak enough to win against four Black Knights without a scratch…

>>22

If Stella wasn’t there, it could have been dangerous.

>>41

If Stella doesn’t show up, then Rei and Mayu will probably appear, so it’s all good, it’s all good.

Kira got revenge on Shin, right?

Thorne was a good guy, so he desperately tried to help Kira by gaining autonomy and even went out to battle.

Toll was a good guy, so he stepped forward to help the disadvantaged Kira and ended up dying; he was truly a good person, but he was weak.

Aslan is so delicious… that’s how I felt.

But if Orphe had mustered up the courage to violate Lax, the major general wouldn’t have had a chance.

You’re wandering around the camp!

>>31

Kira is also from the Alliance → Orb → ZAFT…

>>32

Unlike Aslan, I don’t have a background that I need to hide!

Due to various reasons, not only did I lose, but I also fell from my support in AA, and since Lacus has gone over there, Kira’s heart has surpassed its limits.

Asran’s voice was filled with too much affection, so it ended up being a no-go.

>>34

Ishida is…

Thor’s death is resonating this much, huh?

>>44

Is it just that the stupid and foolish natural one has died?

>>50

🔪

You’re always fighting, Kiraasu.

>>38

Until now, it’s been a fight to the death, so this is my first real fight.

>>40

It doesn’t seem like you’ve ever had a fight even before then…

Typically, in situations like this, it would be like, “Just let me say it!” and then Kira punches Aslan back, saying “You could have said something too…” right?

Why doesn’t Aslan-san just take it a little bit?

>>39

Shin!!!!!!! 1!!!!!!! 1! I’ve never kept silent about what I want to say!!! 1!!1!!!

>>39

You must firmly counter Kirara’s claim that it’s because you are weak! You can’t let even a single blow land on you.

The little bits of honest feelings, vulnerability, and selfishness that I have been holding inside my heart and couldn’t say all this time.

The Lacus I know has way more problematic statements.

>>45

It was more like you shouldn’t be saying that.

>>45

Everyone looks at me with eyes saying, “Huh…!?”

>>53

Aslan silences with a look that seems to ask if there’s something to complain about.

>>54

The fact that Aslan doesn’t think anything of saying it himself.

A man who counterattacks with a military martial arts stance while lecturing as his friend comes at him with an emotional telephone punch.

Aslan is also trying to express that he doesn’t really mean that as a common friend of the two, but he’s getting angry like Kira.

The director did not intend for it to be a friendship scene.

If you add Shin while laughing, it will be even funnier.

It was just a sort of funny story that wasn’t necessary.

Kira, who can say this while being unilaterally punched by Athrun.

Both of them were oddly mature, and the situation didn’t allow for it, so when we reconnected in the orb and rode AA together, we swallowed our complaints and just moved on.

Well, the test pilots who are friends of Kagari, whom I have a little acquaintance with, have also died, and even Muu, who would probably have been the next person I trusted in terms of ability after Aslan (though he is still alive), has died.

It’s really an incredibly good scene, but I can’t help but laugh at how Aslan is just hitting unilaterally.

There aren’t many soldiers who could defeat Asran, but the fact that Kira, who hasn’t even received military training, has managed to get this close is probably due to Kira’s inherent ability.

In reality, he was my fiancé, so what was wrong with that statement?

It was a well-known fact that things weren’t going well.

>>60

Since we’re actually broken up, it only looks like something happened from the perspective of those around us…

In the past, we never fought (Aslan, who overly took care of things, and Kira, who ignored the nagging).

If it’s just myself, I can manage somehow, or I can accept my own death.

But those around me dive straight into the chaos of war, and the foolish ones die off like flies.

If anything, Aslan, Kagari, Diakka, and even those who were lucky enough to survive were almost killed in the Yakin Dueller battle.

🤜🐕🤛

To be honest, looking back now, it was a sudden and confusing scene.

Since the AA sinking, I couldn’t come up with any developments for a while.

It certainly feels something like that.

>>66

Well, it feels like it was constructed from scattered plot ideas since there are no drafts from that time.

To be honest, the hellishness of Yakin is among the worst even in CE.

Seriously, all the factions are falling apart.

>>68

Well, it’s not surprising to feel that way compared to TV series that are strictly serious.

There were really few scenes that felt like a gag.

>>77

I never imagined that there would be jokes during battle in a TV show.

A scene that raised my favorability.

It seems like you thought you would be criticized again from a director’s perspective.

>>69

Wasn’t it abnormal for those who were beating children driven crazy by the stress of war?

>>69

It’s significant that Kira’s introspection has almost been completed over the past 20 years…

I don’t really understand Kira right after the death of the species… It would have been hard to accept if he was in that state.

>>74

It’s been 20 years, and despite not having many additional elements to contemplate, it has still managed to reach a consensus in interpretation.

At that time, I didn’t understand at all, but I suppose it could be said that the elements necessary for analysis were in place by the time of Seed Destiny.

Shin has no resentment at all towards Kira’s statement here.

Or is his head filled with anger towards Aslan for hitting the captain?

>>70

While I empathize with Kira’s feelings, I also have dissatisfaction and anxiety about not being relied upon.

Aslan didn’t want to unilaterally accuse Captain Kira after realizing that he was also suffering.

>>85

Before the current script, Shin felt more like he was confidently trying to mediate between both Kira and Athrun, but upon closer inspection, he wasn’t really that kind of person, which is how the current flow came to be.

>>70

So, Suzumura is not growing either, and he’s just changed his dependency from Durandal to Kira. If he were truly growing, Shin would have argued against it.

It is harshly criticized.

I like this statement when Lux pushes Orphe away.

I can’t accept the scene where they say something like, “A blood-stained monster can only destroy!”

Kira can do quite a lot, including design and messing with software, can’t they?

>>75

It may be that Accord just mentioned what Kira was concerned about using mind reading around that area.

>>75

It’s just Orpheus’s nonsense calculated to be effective if you say it like that…

Right after that, launching a nuclear strike on your own country or firing a requiem is a joke.

>>75

So what do you plan to use that for? It’s probably for fighting! Orpheus is going to poke at you about it.

In the movie, Aslan is completely reliable because he does everything he needs to do… When considering the mental aspect, he saves Kira about three times in one movie.

I heard that the three girls and Muu-san died in the Final Plus of Mujirushi, and for a while, Kira was feeling down because of that.

What the director is saying about being criticized in the past is probably not about Seed Destiny, but about “Stop That.”

Every time Aslan says something, it creates an “uh…?” kind of atmosphere, so please stop it.

>>84

Everyone already knows that Aslan is a bit of a strange person…

>>84

Well, what you’re saying is true, but it’s coming from the perspective of an ex-fiancée…

Let’s all take down the villain together!

It looked quite difficult.

>>87

I like the part where Orphe starts to spill his true feelings near the end.

I thought the lines had less power compared to characters like Cruze and Azrael, and the chairman.

>>99

I felt sick as it seemed that the final boss’s mental age as a pilot was gradually decreasing.

Thanks to this statement, I was finally able to understand Kira correctly.

I’m too cornered and carrying too much.

It’s really great that I can leave it to Shin after this fight…

>>90

Shin Asuka has become a superhuman.

>>109

This is how you do a clone! Is there really something that can clone?

>>90

I like it when Aslan says, “Isn’t it good?” and they get a little sulky.

I think it’s a work that was accepted precisely because it took a long time to be released.

>>91

Kira wanted this kind of thing to come out earlier, but I think Aslan has some character development.

It’s like the director has finally been able to present a character that is this liberated! I feel like I couldn’t capture this flavor after that fateful moment.

>>91

Even if they handle Kira and Athrun well, Shin calling Kira “Captain Kira! Captain Kira!” would definitely have faced a lot of criticism right after the airing.

I thought that the statements made before this one seemed to be okay for both Kira and Lacus in various ways…

In other words, the design philosophies of Kira and Accord are so different that there are no upper or lower tiers.

I like the human-like aspect of someone hitting out at their surroundings when they reach their limit of patience, so I actually wanted to see scenes like this even in Seed Destiny.

>>94

It’s crazy to say, but I wonder if things would have been different if Sai had been able to do it like this.

>>105

Isn’t it the worst if we let just one student, Kira, fight alone and then beat them up with our bare hands?

The captain relied on me! Shin, who becomes mentally upbeat because of it, is cute.

I can’t believe you actually said it… it’s too much.

Shin Asuka, who was entrusted with the task, became a superhuman.

I felt like he was a cocky guy during Destiny, but after watching the movie, he seemed like a person who was mentally troubled…

When I calmly look back at the “stop it” scene now, I can really see how troubled it is.

At that time, it was perceived superficially.

Stop it, the relationship with Frey is depicted as everyone going crazy due to war and pressure, but back then, it was slanted in such a way that Kira was portrayed as just some arrogant jerk on popular individually operated text sites…

I think the film was well-cooked by thoroughly researching past works and their reputation.

>>106

I really think it’s amazing how you managed to collect various things and put them together in that time.

By the way, about this unknown incident…

>>106

I think it’s significant that there wasn’t much investment from the funding side because it wasn’t expected to hit this hard.

At the time the video was completed, there was even no plan to commercialize the Z’Gok.

>>133

Well, in the case of Seed Destiny, it’s a sequel that is 100% based on the interests of the investors.

>>136

Why do you try to dig up things that have already been properly resolved?

Was a voice actor like that necessary?

>>142

Even if you’re there, it’s being created anyway, so it’s the same, it’s the same!

>>142

The sequel was decided in the middle of the series, and the script changed, so it’s already too late to say anything after it’s over…

The people who were criticizing have also been affected by the turbulent waves of society or have been struggling with mental illness.

You may have empathized in unexpected ways.

They are no longer friends who would get one-sidedly beaten when compared to Kira.

I really like Shin, who has become a positive and healthy superhuman.

As a result of trust, Mu-san reflected the requiem.

>>118

(I don’t know about the thread image.)

The situation is too different from when you said “stop it.”

At that time, I really couldn’t rely on those around me.

I really dislike being compared to Kruze as a character when playing the boss in the SEED series.

>>128

Aslan

>>123

I think it was ultimately the director who brought it down to the viewers by cooking it up.

I think the reaction to Aslan was like being surprised because an animal spoke, to put it exaggeratively.

But I’m saying good things, so I’ll stop saying unnecessary things.

At that time, many viewers were also struggling with their own issues.

I couldn’t empathize directly.

Yes… Shin Asuka will increase…

Hey, Muu and Maruyu, why don’t you say something?

>>131

Mr. Mu is being launched, so he isn’t here.

>>131

Yes, Mu La Flaga has been making the impossible possible.

Well, you know, the ones who were barking on the internet back then were just a minority in the grand scheme of things.

I wonder if Ishida was able to understand Aslan after all.

But this time, Aslan was surprisingly easy to understand.

>>134

I feel like I heard someone say something like that somewhere, but it might just be my imagination.

I just said that this version of Aslan is annoyingly cool before the release.

I never expected a fan-service focused movie like this to come out.

It looks naive, but the will is quite strong.

It looks sturdy, but there are unexpectedly fragile parts.

Such Aslan

I’ve been going around in circles until now.

It’s fine to be straightforward at the end.

Somehow, those of the same generation who survived that hellish war, carrying more or less the same feelings as Kira,

Now I am no longer on the receiving end of instructions; I have reached a point where I can convey orders and make decisions for many.

I wish I had seen this pitifulness a little earlier.

>>146

It’s only natural that I couldn’t show that weakness! It’s because you guys are weak!

>>146

If it had been done at that time, it would definitely have been harshly criticized as the production team was concerned about.

After 20 years of heated arguments about character interpretation on the internet, I don’t think it’s something you can often experience when a sequel comes out that everyone can somewhat agree with.

>>147

Honestly, I think about 80% of the time I went with an expectation of not expecting much, treating it like a reunion.

The character design that was first released had somewhat unsettling proportions and lips.

I really like Shin, who does whatever he wants in Destiny.

I really love how the characters, who couldn’t show their true worth due to being in the enemy camp and were mentally broken, shone brightly.

Despite fully committing to being a mad scientist, Kira’s father didn’t actually want to take over the world.

In the last ten years or so, it has become common to refer to making a character gloomy as love.

>>155

I understood that Ms. Ryosawa’s “Shin is really cute, so cute” wasn’t just lip service and was genuine, but her affection is too twisted…

The people who were criticizing back then would criticize anything that was released, no doubt about it!

I was surprised that Raks became human.

>>162

There might really be such effects in the standard model of FF15.

If Kira appeared, it would all be over.

I could empathize with Kira’s continued suffering and the way it ended.

Serious, kind, and responsible.

On one hand, having the ability and being expected to handle things alone leads to a lack of trust in others, which in a way is arrogance.

This movie portrayed both the good and bad sides of Kira well, which was great.

I think it’s true that there were few depictions of what Kiraraku thinks of each other, which led to them being perceived as lacking human qualities.

I think if I had said that back then, people would have thought, “What is with this guy?”

It’s been a long time, and it was really tough… but I’m glad there was a time when it felt that way.

Regarding Lux, there is a lingering doubt that they want to control the world from behind the scenes, isn’t there…!? This suspicion just can’t seem to go away until Destiny.

I was quite shocked by Mia, and as a result of finally being unable to escape, I feel like I’ve finally confirmed my freedom.

For the time being, Raks is a carnivore by fate.

I understood.

I never thought the desire would be so strong.

>>172

It’s already really pushing forward at the SEED stage, isn’t it!

I understand that the director didn’t fully capture Kira’s feelings in the fate.

I wanted to put it in the movie, and it turned out well.

>>173

Well, the result of being urged by the sponsors to get Kira out earlier is that.

Isn’t Shin hating Aslan too much?

>>174

You idiot!

>>174

When Aslan tries to stop him, he usually tries to stop Kira’s arm, and on the surface it looks that way, but Shin is relatively calm.

If I really hated you, there wouldn’t even be a conversation.

>>174

I understand that you have your thoughts about me, but…

It’s hard to like you since your output is Aslan.

It’s not that Kira and Shin are no good, but rather that the world itself being terrible became clear.

The final boss of the series may or may not be objectively reasonable.

Everyone is good at saying words that stab at Kira’s heart.

Well, Orphe has ultimately lost in a good way.

It can be said that this work is accepted because there is now a better understanding of mental health and related topics.

I think part of the reason Kira attracted hate was that, regardless of their mental state, they didn’t visibly get beaten up physically.

I think Aslan’s contributions are also significant in avoiding hate on FREEDOM.

>>181

Thanks to being completely beaten up by Athrun after saying it in the thread, it has become ambiguous in a good way… Momentum is important, isn’t it?

In many ways, it really feels like the phrase “I could say that” is too powerful.

Listening to the drama CD of Gundam Seed, it seems that romantic relationships are delved into and flags for an accord are raised, indicating that some degree of a sequel’s setting had been thought of from the beginning.

>>184

The details may be different, but until the Z’Gok appears, it is clearly both Mizushima’s script.

I think it was typical of Mr. Morisawa to decide to switch to the old model in the second half, so the main elements were probably already in place.

Is it intended that Aslan and Lacus are quite similar?

I don’t think Kira, Athrun, and Shinn were all mentally disturbed in Destiny…

Even in the remaster, the depiction of Shin being unsettled is amplified, so it probably was originally inclined in that direction.

That concept didn’t exist 20 years ago…