Tatsuya, you’re dressed unusually.
Komiya was glad to be a consultant, right?
You can also learn.
Is this a reaction of “You’re doing well…”?
“If you say that much, why don’t you try making it yourself?”
So you said, so I tried making it!
This is a complete reproduction of your favorite ramen!
I can do it!
I remembered the Tokyo University Ramen Man from the Discovery Story.
What are you thinking, glasses…
It’s a reasonable and perfect answer to the hatred towards consultants.
Is it okay to bring out a second-rate idea when asked to show your own idea?
>>10It’s different.
It’s not a tournament like that; it’s a three-match battle between ramen shops and ramen critics.
So from the critics’ perspective, this is rather the correct answer…!
>>12Did the ramen critic bring out the ramen from the ramen shop…?
After creating the same thing, I suppose the flow would be to consult on adding positive elements from there.
It’s not just about serving better ramen to win in this case…
Has the competition itself lost its meaning?
Did you make it so that whoever loses, it’s your loss?
It’s not about winning by making more delicious ramen.
It’s ultimately a battle between ramen shops and ramen critics.
Defeat the other party’s argument to win…!
It doesn’t mean that I’ve lost.
The smartest way for a critic to fight.
If you’re going to criticize so arrogantly, then why not try making it yourself? Is this your response?
>>20“Can you make it? By the way, since you mentioned it, you can create something that goes beyond the criticism of a mere amateur critic, right?”
This is perfect harassment.
It’s a bit of a pun, but I think it’s a good development that there hasn’t really been a competition like critic vs ramen shop until now.
It seems that regardless of winning or losing, the ramen shop won’t get excessively hurt, which is admirable…
Give it a try!
I made it…
If you can demonstrate that you can make it taste the same as your ramen, that’s enough to be a critic, right?
If anything, even if I lose, it would add to my prestige as the person involved.
I am a consultant who always perfectly prepares a safe escape route; my demeanor is different.
I could make ramen like yours too.
So don’t get too carried away.
I guess that’s the story.
>>26As a critic, I can do impersonations.
Only a ramen shop can create something from scratch.
I think it’s around that level of compromise.
This person probably doesn’t want to pick a fight with the ramen shop either.
>>28I wondered if that was good enough as a consultant.
The stance was that it’s better to just imitate trendy shops rather than trying to be original first.
>>28By showing understanding towards ramen and ramen shops, this person seems likely to aim for a complete no-damage strategy without being adversarial.
>>35To put it simply, he can come across as someone with a dirty character as a person.
>>44Consulting seems to be the perfect job for that person, so well, yes.
>>26I don’t know about Guruta-kun.
Komiyama and Arisu will probably talk about their ideas as critics in a more in-depth manner.
It’s a very interesting development after a long time.
Are you saying that if critics often say that, then you should just create it yourself?
At this point, it has come to the point where at least three people are certified to look exactly alike.
In battles like this, the ramen shop side really becomes disadvantaged.
There’s no way to win…!
Whether it can be made at a cost that is viable for business is a different matter.
This can only be done by Komiyama.
The critics are saying that because they can do it this way, the creators can never win against the critics.
>>37Can a critic make our ramen?! No way! That’s the first thing that establishes this competition.
Critics can make that ramen, and ramen shops have no choice but to serve that ramen.
In a normal competition, it would just be enough to produce something better than what I’m currently making, but in this competition, that’s not possible.
If the ramen shop wins, it could be interpreted as a denial of my own ramen up until now.
No matter when you see it, the casting for the drama adaptation always features Uchida.
In a way, it can be said that I am preserving the other person’s dignity.
We can create the flavors of popular shops, which becomes our strength…
No, it’s already over once this tactic is adopted and reproduced.
Ramen is largely a contest of creativity, so it doesn’t require that much skill in cooking.
As long as you know the recipe, you can recreate it.
>>43If it’s something actually offered as a signature dish in a store, then reproducibility is even more important…
An unexpected game-changing element that overturns the very foundation of the competition.
I like this kind of thing.
This tactic seems easy to replicate if it’s okay…
That said, can a consultant really create the signature dish of a popular restaurant?
>>48I made it!
>>48Well, go ahead.
Please enjoy.
>>48This glasses-wearing person has proper cooking skills too…
>>48So I guess it’s an appeal that they are doing consulting while being able to make things properly.
Guruta-kun is going straight into a ramen showdown, and it seems like he might get caught by Dokyun’s father’s underhanded tactics.
>>49It seems that Koga and Komiyama might end up like that, so I’m wondering what will happen.
Since they are a consultant who started as a critic, I think they will provide a bit more reasoning on how this is a victory in terms of consulting.
This time, it’s significant that the criteria aren’t the usual ones of originality and taste.
As expected, it might be too heavy a burden for Gluta-kun against Mr. Takeda…
That person will likely scheme in a way that benefits themselves, whether they win or lose.
>>53This time, starting from the beginning, Takeda’s father won’t settle down until he experiences a painful lesson.
>>65It was a terrible accusation.
>>65It was good that Guruta-kun was genuinely annoyed by the bullying towards his father.
>>65It seems like the critic won’t win all, and Gluta-kun is the one most likely to lose…
>>207Komiyama will probably lose in this situation.
Completely recreate your signature dish!
If you lose this, it means you’ve lost!
>>54You don’t need to go all the way to perfect reproduction.
If they say it’s just like the signboard menu, then it’s already a win for Komiyama.
It’s just an event where the storyteller and the creator are having a quarrel, so aiming for no damage might attract boos.
It seems like they’re trying to cover it up by saying that the opponent’s ramen isn’t that great or by boasting in their movements.
>>55I see, the grand menu is better than the original menu for the competition, right!
It could be perceived in a way that makes the other person feel subtly complimented.
I thought it was the usual feel from the introduction of the episode, but this time it was really interesting and good.
Even though you don’t even make anything yourself, you act all high and mighty just critiquing! Is this how it ends up because it’s a response to that?
The person in the thread is a consultant who would probably have succeeded simply by running a store right now…
>>64I stumbled at the ramen shop at the beginning and turned to consulting, but it feels like if things had gone well, I could have been running a regular shop.
The most fateful opponent is Guta-kun, but this is also the one I have the least chance of winning against…
I said the movie was boring because it followed the original too closely.
A movie critic who ended up making something different from the original work and faced hell.
It’s best not to say unnecessary things.
>>68Because there is a possibility of getting involved with a sadistic gay person.
>>68That was more like an accident where I got struck by lightning because I was already working outside…
>>68I wonder if that’s something that goes beyond malice, a phenomenon that’s hard to understand…
As expected, I can’t go into every match like this, so I’m really looking forward to how I’ll defeat those lousy old men next time.
Guruta doesn’t know what will happen because the opponent is also the enemy of his parents.
It’s not just about the mood or whether something tastes good or bad; it’s about understanding what to do and how to make it turn out this way.
It proves that I understand properly and am making a critique.
This is not a discussion about whether we can create it from scratch this time.
If it’s just making it this way, I can imitate it too.
It is merely an imitation and not something created from scratch.
Since both the cost rate and operations are disregarded,
I cannot turn this into a product and make a ramen shop viable.
I intend to not forget my respect for ramen craftsmen.
Is it like that flow?
>>76Even if he loses in this situation, he himself doesn’t take any damage, so he’s strong.
>>76In the previous conversation, we discussed upgrading the prototype, so I think this goes beyond just imitation.
>>96It feels like I’m proposing an improved version of how I would do it if I were consulting.
>>96If we consider it as an upgrade assuming the same flavor,
Lower the costs, save more time, and arrange the steps to make it easier for anyone to create… something like that?
I think Arisu-san is in the position closest to the core values of this manga, so I’m really looking forward to how much persuasive power they will bring.
Aren’t you noticing it late?
>>79The current mainstream is that there are quite a lot of similar-tasting ramen, so it’s unavoidable.
Rather, it’s amazing that you noticed it.
>>79Everyone is convinced that the original ramen will come out.
>>86As expected, the person recognized it just by the sight and smell.
It’s annoying that both Gulta’s father and Takeda lean towards being bad people.
>>80Awful.
As for Komiyama, it’s already a win since it can be recreated, so the outcome can be handled in any way.
>>83Opinions like “You can’t even make ramen, yet you have the habit of doing so” can be sufficiently silenced with this.
>>88I broke the opponent’s main argument, so I’m strong.
If it’s only a mediocre result, that would be bad, but it seems to be perfect.
>>94The judges say it’s so similar.
Well, not just ramen shops, but in restaurants that cater to the general public…
I don’t think the proportion of an individual chef’s skill itself is that significant, but…
Arisu’s opponent seems to have only losing flags, but I wonder if they can win with that.
>>90It’s the embodiment of an arrogant ramen shop type that’s been around since the Ramen Saviors.
Since it’s already the third genius from the past who has disappeared, I feel like there won’t be any significant results left from that.
I tried making it!
Please evaluate!
In other words, criticizing someone who isn’t a craftsman for having slightly inferior quality while still reproducing almost the same flavor is the same as deliberately finding fault with the original, so there’s no room for right or wrong.
“I was tricked by a consultant and just had my money taken! It was the kind of situation where a fight was instigated.”
I can provide guidance on how to copy at least the signature dishes of popular restaurants.
If this doesn’t sell, then either the craftsman’s skills are poor or the original ramen was only popular for reasons other than its taste, right?
Because of that, the person being copied can’t use strong language either.
A delicious ramen can be made by a mere ramen enthusiast.
Whether or not you can keep running a ramen shop is a different matter.
It’s been said since the early days, hasn’t it?
If I win, the ramen you think of is even worse than my monkey imitation.
Even if you win, it’s just that you won over your own ramen!
The other party brought out something of a high level that exceeded expectations, so if I had just fought normally, I would have ended up with great embarrassment.
Before it started, I was wondering if this match would be interesting, but I was quite impressed by the flow this time.
The moment I said that ramen looks exactly like that, it created a dilemma where whichever one wins, it means my ramen has already lost.
It’s unfair to say that losing isn’t losing… Well, since it was a fight initiated by an accusation in the first place, this might be the optimal solution.
Speaking of which, Fujimoto-kun also said, “I can make it, but is it okay to go ahead and make it?” at the beginning…
It wasn’t a tournament at that time, but…
I have confirmation that it’s perfect because I’ve also fed it to the Gluta and they approved it.
If the ramen shop wants to win, they have no choice but to introduce a slightly improved ramen.
We are working hard every day, so it’s only natural that what we made today is tastier than what we made yesterday! That’s a valid excuse.
Even so, the critics are unscathed.
>>107Isn’t it unfair?
>>109It’s not unfair at all because it meets the other person’s claims.
>>109(Well, if I lose, then it’s not really my loss…)
>>109In the first place, it’s embarrassing to start a fight in my own arena…
>>130“Trying it yourself is really a pretty lame statement at the minimum level for a professional…”
>>107It doesn’t mean anything to win by serving ramen that the customer can’t enjoy to someone who is critiquing it as a customer…
I recreated your ramen and improved it.
>>108Isn’t that the guy who dropped out of Tokyo University in the previous work?
The feeling of reassurance of having one clear opponent who can be thoroughly beaten and smeared with miso.
The ramen shop has released an amazing new product, and Komiyama was so surprised by its unexpected deliciousness that he was shaken, which is why this is the thread image.
It has turned into a ring where you can no longer win based on taste.
It feels like you have to find flaws with logic rather than debate.
>>112The consultant side retaliated against a challenge that questioned whether someone like you could make delicious ramen.
I can normally replicate the ramen from your shop, you know? That’s my answer.
As long as you’re serving delicious ramen, there’s no way you can lose.
Regardless, either the ramen you serve in your shop or the ramen you came up with will lose, but I’ve prepared for that…
>>138A bald man would probably like this kind of attitude.
>>112There’s no way to win against those who live by their big talk and fast hands.
>>144However… Dokyun’s father…
>>154In a battle of violence, I can’t win against Arisuh-san in her Demon God mode, and there’s also Gluta, a strong candidate for the strongest in the current environment.
>>166That was quite a high violent status, looking like bean sprouts.
>>166What is most frightening about Takeda-san is not their violence, but their high skills in verbal persuasion and manipulative tactics.
>>184To be honest, I just think that Kago is the strongest simply because legal actions haven’t been taken against her for some reason…
>>184My prediction is that they’ll secretly launch a Dokyun channel, and if they lose to Gluta, they’ll say it was a collaboration project with a popular channel this time!
Stop fighting in a way that only makes your opponent feel unpleasant, regardless of whether you win or lose.
>>115Huh? You’re the one who started the fight, right?
>>115Even if we lose in the taste of ramen, as long as we can get our point across and make the other party feel unpleasant, it’s a win!
>>123Isn’t it too unproductive?
>>115What are you saying in a forum, which is a battleground for response battles, where making the opponent uncomfortable is considered a win?
>>127Stop with the replies that are like the antagonists from the Discovery Age.
>>127The ones who are doing response battles on anonymous boards are both losers.
>>115There is also the possibility that the other party recognizes the ability and contracts with Komiyama in a refreshing manner, such as through training of staff…
I think this time we’ll have a good conclusion since the remaining two opponents are weak.
>>137Takeda’s old man is coming to fight like a loser, so I don’t understand.
The other person is in a state of getting beaten up pretty badly.
When consultant Komiyama comes up with this, I’m suddenly excited to see how YouTuber Guruta-kun and the now authoritative critic Arisu-san will respond.
In the first place, a disadvantageous situation for the ramen shop side.
On top of that, what does Arisu plan to do by getting Serizawa involved?
There’s no way I can perfectly recreate my ramen after this, slurp.
It’s my flavor…
Are you going to do it until then?
>>122The expression I had when I ate it in the thread image already feels like that.
>>134Looking closely at the thread image, it’s the person themselves eating.
If it’s a ramen shop vs. a ramen shop, it won’t be a fair match, but I think it’s an acceptable strategy when it’s the creator vs. the storyteller. However, I honestly thought it would be Arisu-san who would do this.
>>124Sabashi is extremely high-level and a bit of a madman, so I feel that it’s somewhat hard to communicate.
Stop with the gag-like developments.
It’s not my loss, and it’s too evil.
It’s interesting because it’s a form of a ramen shop versus a ramen critic, which allows for both quality and reasoning to come into play…
>>128I like the approach that follows the theme properly.
Can Gluta-kun do something in this direction?
At least if I can completely replicate it, the criticism from the reviewers will be silenced by the fact that the shop owners don’t understand anything about the ramen I made.
If you feel frustrated that you were done in on this foundation, then you can ironically say to try doing the work of a critic or a consultant yourself.
Flavor analysis is of course possible, and replication is also feasible! This is not just my craftsmanship; it can be done even by beginners like her! Please make use of it!
In the end, is it a complete victory to say that a mere ramen shop has no room to complain to consultants or critics?
It’s not unfair because the critic competed against the ramen shop as a critic.
The ramen shop is competing as a ramen shop against critics.
Compared to a bald person, this guy is just a bit better, but he’s not necessarily good-mouthed or has a good personality.
The way to play this match.
The one I often saw on Jan!
If we can change the axis of the competition on which we judge which is more delicious… right?
If consultants have a stronger position and can earn more than store owners, why doesn’t everyone become a consultant?
>>150Successful ramen shops tend to start doing somewhat consulting-like activities.
>>150A food and beverage business that has sales every day would be more profitable, right?
It’s a significant point that everyone noticed the taste first, not just the appearance.
It’s not that I want to make you feel bad; it’s a strategy to deny the other person’s claims while also avoiding a nasty breakup.
>>153Aren’t you trying to deny the other person’s argument while making them feel bad and then say it’s not a fight?
>>153At least with this combination, there’s nothing good that comes from a fight.
I don’t know about the other two groups.
But this means that if someone with a bad mouth or personality complains, they would retaliate and say there’s no way I’m losing now!
>>155(Even if you flip the table with a complaint in front of the public, that’s not my loss…)
If you’re going to say that so much, then go ahead and try making it, but as soon as it’s proven and returned,
Regardless of the outcome of this ramen contest, I’ve already lost the argument.
I’ve had a painful experience with consultants, so I could agree with the claim that I can’t trust them.
>>157I had no choice but to bring it to a store-building presentation competition…
>>157It feels like you’re creating a sort of middle ground where some consultants can’t be trusted, but you seem like a consultant I can trust.
Damn it… Koga’s new dish lost to Koga’s signature menu item…!
When craftsmen let consultants and critics fight on their own turf,
The one who is actually being unfair is you, right?
Didn’t Takeda’s father want to change the structure where critics have a stronger position and stores have to bow down and pay money to the critics?
>>161It’s Takeda’s father who made a fuss, assuming that someone who hasn’t had any such exchanges is getting money!
>>161But isn’t it unavoidable if they’re in a higher position?
The difference in social status is something that cannot be overturned.
>>174If you haven’t read it, stop coming here to reply.
I wonder if they also give lectures on how to identify bad consultants by criticizing them harshly.
Well, rather than the goal being to defeat completely…
Because they’ve been criticized for their consulting abilities, they must be coming at it this way as a roundabout approach.
This time, it was a good scene where Hage properly evaluated Komiyama.
It’s a love letter that says, “If you ask me to create it, I understand you well enough to actually be able to make it.”
My view on critics hasn’t changed.
The perspective on creators may change a bit.
>>172After all, anyone can make something like this…
>>181It can’t be just anyone.
It’s about the fact that people who can create are acting as consultants.
It’s a good method to overpower the opponent without getting your own hands dirty.
It’s done too well to the point that it bothers me.
Upon re-reading, this person is completely being accused without reason, so it would be just right to retaliate with a copy…
If they can make the same ramen, a consultant who knows how to sell it has too much of an advantage.
This can’t be done by a movie critic, can it?
>>177Because Mr. Kusahva took that hit.
>>187That’s not something we can put on the agenda!
>>187When I tried to create something proper, I was told to make something different after having all future spoilers revealed to me.
Well, it’s just a bit too much to be considered an outlier…
>>198You said it yourself, right? You prefer something unique that’s bad over a safe, good movie.
>>177I wonder if I could change the characters and background according to the plot of a masterpiece movie.
Like The Magnificent Seven.
>>200You’re saying that directors who can’t act, can’t create art, and can’t make music are still making requests for those things, right?
>>212It depends on the director, after all…
>>216When Clint Eastwood appears, there’s nothing left to do but bow down.
After rereading, it turns out that it’s not that Komiyama consulted with the opponent.
I only had a terrible experience with a horrible consultant who did things like cricket chashu.
There are good and bad consultants.
It’s no different from the variety of eateries, ranging from good to bad.
Certainly, if it’s a simple flavor, your ramen is better.
As a consultant, when considering the cost rate, your usual ramen is the ultimate ramen!
It seems like they might also add some flattery.
So I feel like it might be a compromise where you shouldn’t just lump everything together as consulting.
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