
Speaking of which, I haven’t seen Beerus around at all lately.
It’s not that old of a story, is it?
Well, there have been quite a few stronger than Goku since a long time ago.
That’s just a setup for Goku to get stronger.
>>4But
That’s just a setup for Beerus to become even stronger.To continue becoming…
It has been about fifteen years since the gods appeared.
It’s about time we have a clear discussion about surpassing Lord Beerus!
I don’t know if anything will be made after DAIMA.
>>5Naso
I just thought it was the usual Dragon Ball; it’s been a while since it’s been strong in the god-like category.
Goku isn’t necessarily the strongest character at all times, right?
>>8Rather, it suggests that Goku is more suited to being a challenger who confronts stronger opponents than gods.
I thought they showed it off to those watching.
Goku suits being a challenger for life more than being the strongest champion.
First, it seems that Goku thinks that if he fights seriously, Gohan will become stronger.
When it came out, there were mixed opinions.
It felt like every time a new character appeared afterwards, the previous one was still being accepted as they had become familiar.
All the gods who become masters can be surpassed in an instant, but Lord Beerus is doing his best.
It must be happy to always have Vegeta chasing after you, wondering if he will lose.
Since Zen-chan is here, anything like Beerus should be fine, right?
It seems that Goku has won against bosses mostly in one-on-one battles fewer times than you’d expect.
At first, I didn’t think much of it, but staying up there without defeating or surpassing it, let alone fighting, felt a bit… off.
I never thought I would never be able to get close to eternity.
I wonder if becoming stronger than Lord Beerus would mean a change in the god of destruction.
It seems like I could put up a good fight against Lord Beerus, but I don’t feel like I can catch up to the angels or the Grand Priest.
In the Cell arc, he’s somewhat inferior to the pre-resurrection Cell, and in the Buu arc, he’s lower than even Evil Buu, let alone Vegeta’s new form.
It wasn’t fun because of the god-awful omniscience I unleashed.
I couldn’t win against Raditz alone, and without Krillin, Gohan, and Yajirobe, I can’t defeat Vegeta either… Frieza is definitely formidable, though.
It’s okay that I haven’t been able to win against strong opponents solo until now.
It’s not good that even with a group, we can’t win, and in the first place, we don’t even fight properly.
It would have been nice if stronger new enemies were coming out right after I overtook them.
The only one that inflated super badly is Jiren, right?
Since Jiren, things have been on a level playing field.
Because they are “allies” far stronger than Goku.
It’s like having a parent present during a children’s fight, so there’s no sense of tension at all.
>>27When a superior presence that feels completely out of reach is presented, it’s tough, isn’t it?
Even if strong enemies appear, it’s fine as long as they show up at worst, right?
I’m not going to do it for various reasons, but emotionally, I feel uneasy.
>>27I thought this was a really ridiculous farce in Resurrection ‘F’.
Lord Beerus, even against Gogeta Blue, would only change his expression slightly, so if he were serious, he would definitely have the upper hand…
It’s good that someone stronger than Goku is coming out, but…
In other words, the reason Dragon Ball is interesting is that such things keep appearing one after another.
I think it wasn’t a good idea to set a clear upper limit on strength with the title of High Priest.
Beerus’s strength is too unclear.
Even though I was supposed to be about 60% as strong as Beerus in God form, for some reason, even after being able to use Ultra Instinct, Beerus is still stronger.
>>30I don’t know about manga, but I don’t think anyone has said that about anime?
Thanks to the gods, DB has returned to being the strongest content, and I love it.
It’s like, “Huh?” when someone says Whis is stronger than Beerus.
It’s one thing to become strong, but becoming strong through some strange ritual is…
>>33That has already been done with the Elder Kai and the Old Kai, through potential unleashing and fusion…
The idea of becoming a god by gathering the energy of Saiyans with righteous hearts is nonsensical.
>>38That’s a huge hassle.
If you start saying that, then the transformation into Super Saiyan itself is meaningless, right?
I haven’t cared about being stronger than Goku since the Cell saga.
The power tournament and the farce are just too much of a farce.
There was a universe that was erased before that, but it’s Trunks’ universe.
>>41Where is it…
Being a challenger is good.
I want you to challenge yourself and I want you to win.
On top of that, I want you to bring out even stronger ones.
The problem is not that someone is stronger than Goku.
The development being completely uninteresting is really bad.
It has become clear that the process is important, even if the result is the same.
>>44It was interesting, but…
>>44I found it interesting and enjoyable, so I guess I win.
I can see some obvious responses that say, “I really want to hit!” so try to hide it a little more.
>>47Isn’t it normal for there to be opinions saying it wasn’t interesting since it was a topic that had both supporters and opponents?
It’s good to take on challenges, but it ended without even a hint of being able to catch up, let alone surpass.
>>49It’s amazing how this guy bites back even to the point of saying they can’t continue because the original author has died.
You’re just someone who will take anything if it’s offered.
It’s fine that strong guys keep appearing.
It’s too late to act after thinking about it! It’s like, “Whoa, did you forget Mr. Popo’s training?”
You just explode your power at the moment of attack from a natural state! And then it’s like, “Did you forget what you were doing on Namek?”
Did you make it without rereading the old works? That point really bothered me a lot.
In the original work, the last major boss that could be properly defeated in a one-on-one fight is Frieza.
The battle with Beerus aside, from then on it’s been intense with surprise beams, the disappearance of Trunks’ world, Hit’s growth, and everything else except for the end of the Tournament of Power, but if you were able to enjoy it, then that’s all good.
I feel like I could honestly win against Beerus now, even though I haven’t fought him.
I can’t see a vision where Wis can win.
It’s the fault of the gods in this world for being too weak until now.
>>57The hierarchy within the god category is amazing.
The Omni-King didn’t need anyone.
The Zamasu arc is not only about the final developments but also about a continuous series of “We can’t win! Let’s go home!”
It’s the Demon Sealing Wave! Let’s learn the Demon Sealing Wave! I’ve learned it! Ah! I can’t use the Demon Sealing Wave! And so on.
Did you create it while thinking about the development? That’s amazing.
>>59First of all, Goku is so stupid that he’s at a mentally challenged level…
If Gohan takes it a little seriously, Goku is no match.
No matter how much the story expands, I can’t help but feel that it ultimately leads to a dead end, which seems kind of pointless.
It feels like Beerus is still holding back in the Toyotarou version.
In the anime version, I was sweating coldly seeing the combination of Super Saiyan Blue and Kaioken.
It seems that the gap with Goku has significantly narrowed.
What kind of Kaioshin develops techniques that even a god of destruction would break into a cold sweat?
>>67The concept of the technique could be devised, but its realization was impossible.
Someone who has realized something has appeared… scary…
If there’s such a huge gap that it can’t even be a contest, it’s boring, you know?
Speaking of which, the Kaioken had already become less prominent by the Namek Saga, and it felt like the Super Saiyan form had a much greater boost, so why hadn’t it been used until now? It comes out with such momentum…
Even though the character is specifically mentioning it, that’s quite a stretch, isn’t it?
It’s been said for a long time that no matter how stable the Super Saiyan state gets, the energy will still fluctuate, so it makes quite a bit of sense.