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Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:26+

Isn’t there really not much merit in insisting on the Kirara four-panel format?

1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:27Yeahx1

So, what is Kirara manga?

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:29Yeahx1

>>1To be honest, there are many anime adaptations that are good, but the original works are often mediocre.

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:36

If it’s a moe slice-of-life genre, it seems like the Kirara four-panel manga brand, which makes it relatively easy for anime adaptations.

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:37Yeahx4

I realized that Kill Me Baby is amazing.

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:37

I don’t think I’ve mentioned it, but since Kirara’s basic readership is female, it’s better to approach it with a mindset of drawing shoujo manga rather than trying to create 00s moe four-panel comics.

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:39Yeahx4

Nurumeta has a scent that feels reminiscent of the old Kirara.
I can’t put into words how it has changed from the past to now, but…

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:41Yeahx4

I feel that what I seek changes depending on whether I’m watching a Kirara anime or reading a work featured mainly in a four-panel comic magazine.

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:43

The expression with Shimeji was certainly refreshing and didn’t feel like a four-panel comic.

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:47Yeahx2

>>8I realized that there’s a technique where you can create a four-panel manga while aligning the art in the third panel…
>>8I realized that there's a technique where you can create a four-panel manga while aligning the ar...

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:44

If you take a look at a page of Bozaro as a test, I think any theory will go out the window.
If you take a look at a page of Bozaro as a test, I think any theory will go out the window.

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:46

>>9It’s turning out to be something amazing.

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:58

>>9The idea that one panel contains a lot of information feels consistent with the theory.

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:45

The artwork for “Hoshikuzu Telepath” isn’t the cost you’d spend on a four-panel manga.

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:49

>>10This was a part that was hard to understand unless it was pointed out, so I found it a bit interesting.

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:46Yeahx1

While reading manga, I fell in love with the densely packed and high-calorie parts, and as someone who started reading a lot of 4-panel comics, it’s sad that the good parts are exactly why there are so few readers.
On the other hand, it may also be a reason why the number of Kirara alumni associations at universities has increased recently.

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:29

>>11Reading eight pages takes some motivation, unlike just one four-panel comic.
I used to buy and read four-panel comics, but it became tough after turning 30.
Right now, I only buy things like physical copies of “Bocchi the Rock!” and others.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:34Yeahx1

>>49I think it’s true that having a lot of information can make you tired easily.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:47Yeahx2

Nurumetaha seems like it will eventually be animated.

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:48

>>13If the series continues and there are fans in the anime industry, it seems likely that they will do something eventually.

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:08Yeahx1

>>17Since I’m making videos for the MV, I hope that kind of thing serves as good promotion…
Super Ten-chan’s MV, etc.

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:11

>>29It’s complicated because Odyk has drawn it and also Riko Kame is drawing it!

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:48Yeahx1

Are cable ties selling this well right now!?
I didn’t know because I’m a paperback person…

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:48

Whoa, there are a lot of characters.

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:52Yeahx1

I was surprised to see the author of SUN directly in the comments on Hatebu.

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:55

After reading the article, I was surprised to find a reference to the undertaker Kuro.

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)17:56Yeahx4

But if we’re talking about Kirara, we can’t avoid Kiyuzuki Satoko…

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:00

In the early days when it was lukewarm, it was a bit delicate.
I feel like I started to grasp various things from around volume 3, and it got significantly better.
It’s interesting to talk about how this is what I’ve grasped.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:03

>>23When I looked back, it had a good vibe starting from volume 2.
But still, volume 1 really has a strong feeling of trial and error in both the art and the story.

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:01

Indeed, the first volume of Nurumetai is somewhat difficult to read.

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:03

I feel resentment over the cancellation of the series again.

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:05Yeahx1

I actually still look back at GA and Kuro even now…

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:14

>>27That’s nice…

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:06

I haven’t thoroughly touched on the topic of money.
I don’t feel like I can make a living from a monthly 8-page series with a paperback published once a year.

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:09

>>28It feels like musicians or artists.
It’s tough if you don’t have a wealthy family background.

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:10Yeahx2

>>30Originally, many 4-panel comic artists were housewives looking to earn some pocket money.
Time and life

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:09Yeahx2

I feel like it’s really improved since the story of Saki and skipping school in volume 2, chapter 1.

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:10

GA started serialization in the same year as Hidamari Sketch, but at that time it was quite compressed.
That’s right, it resumed serialization after being picked up by the Kirara editorial department when it went on hiatus.

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:10Yeahx2

The person from the dark side said they have a side job.

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:12Yeahx3

As the person themselves has said, it’s rare and honestly amazing that a series has released up to volume 5 in Kirara without being adapted into an anime or being canceled.

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:13Yeahx1

I remembered Tricolor after a long time.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:38Yeahx1

>>37The concentration of Tricolor was amazing, wasn’t it?
That’s why I probably couldn’t continue.
If you don’t take shortcuts skillfully, things probably won’t last long.

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:41Yeahx2

>>37There are various reasons it tends to be erased from history, but when I read it occasionally, I still think the quality is high.

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:15

It’s quite common for novelists to be housewives as a hobby.

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:19

Even though there are up to volume 9, there are works like Anemone that don’t even have an anime adaptation or a voice comic…

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:20

It’s not Kirara, but when it comes to ideals or the utmost, it really is Azumanga Daioh.

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:22

The author of Star Dust Telepath is too sturdy.
Normally, I feel like I might suddenly die someday.

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:22

The reason why the author continues even without an anime adaptation is a mystery…

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:23

I love Helhesu in manga with a lot of text.
The variation in the illustration’s strength is well done, making it feel quite easy to read (this is just my personal opinion since I didn’t find volume 1 that hard to read, so it may not be reliable).

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:25Yeahx1

It was an interesting article, but in the end, it’s all just luck, which is really frustrating!

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:27Yeahx3

>>46Well, so it’s true that it’s better to focus on creating good work rather than worrying about that.

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:27

It was a manga that started in 2020 and has been serialized for about 5 years.
I thought it was a work from further back.

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:33

I watched GA in the anime and liked it, so I bought a bunch during the sale and read it.
Even GA was tough for me to finish.
If it had ended in a two-page spread, following the serialization, I probably wouldn’t have felt that way.
Even though the character is cute, it was tough.

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:36

>>50I love GA and Kuro too, but it does get exhausting, doesn’t it?
I’m sure that in the case of the latter, Kiyuzuki-sensei was self-deprecatingly aware.

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:36

In the case of a paperback, just the fact that it is a four-panel comic makes it heavier in terms of content.
If it’s something surreal, it’s easy to read.

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:38

>>52I love the illustrations of Shimeshi, but it took a lot of energy to finish reading.
Popoko’s work was easy to read.

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:37

I’m reading the four-panel comic little by little as an ebook every time I take a bath.
Even if the number of P is small, when you consider the number of frames, it’s large.

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:37

I would like to hear opinions from people like Arai Cherry.

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:37

It was an interesting article.
I understood that Gochiusa is a king.

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:38Yeahx1

Even though there are few pages, I realized that it takes time to read because of that.

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:39Yeahx1

>>58It really feels like nothing is progressing.
As if endlessly walking down a far-off straight road.

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:39Yeahx3

It’s a valuable medium for someone like me who really enjoys every single panel.

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:39Yeahx1

Kirara’s love is incredible.
If you’re aiming to be a Kirara author, it seems like that’s a prerequisite or something.

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:41

>>62In the first place, this person has been drawing their own Kirara-style manga on platforms like pixiv, and they have simply turned that into a serialized work, so it feels like they have turned their hobby into a job.

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:40Yeahx1

It’s amazing that you can write such engaging notes and also draw erotic comics.

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:42

I like this person’s erotic drawings.

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:55

>>66Recently, it seemed like Nurumeta was tweeting about writing with an erotic intention, and I thought it was great to get off to that.

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:42Yeahx3

Kirara 4-koma still has a decent number of people, and when I try to draw, it still has the Kirara style, so that’s okay for now.
The lineage of family 4-panel comics is seriously about to come to an end.
Only veterans can draw it, and new series are being significantly encroached upon by Kirara.

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:50Yeahx2

>>67The number of four-panel manga magazines has decreased significantly…

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:43

ぬるめた見たら普通にキスしててビックリしたんだけどきららってこんなエロだったんだ

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:44Yeahx1

>>68How many works do you think people in the erotic manga field have serialized (or have been serializing)?

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:43

Because it resembles odyk, when both names are in the PV, it becomes unclear which is which.

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:52

>>69Odyk is a different person from Kokamu, but Kokamu explained that they are indeed someone who animates pictures.

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:44Yeahx1

I read somewhere that initially inviting people who were illustrators for a series means you can avoid paneling, which lowers the hurdles for serialization.

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:47Yeahx2

>>70It was a theory I often saw, but after reading this article, I realized it was much more difficult than regular panel layouts and that it was just an amateur’s thought after all.

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:44

It feels like the Kirara 4-koma has done everything it can in the slice-of-life genre, and while it seems like nothing has changed, there have actually been quite a few transformations happening.

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:46Yeahx1

>>71The current editor-in-chief is taking on various challenges due to concerns about boredom and stagnation.

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:45Yeahx1

By the way, one of the roots of this story, which is called Kirara 4-koma, is probably Torikoro.

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:48Yeahx1

>>73Teacher Ume mentioned Teacher Kairan and Tricolore in the Kirara exhibition catalog.

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:45

It feels like Gochiusa has somehow completed the perfect slice-of-life genre.

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:46Yeahx1

The concept of Kirara may have come later in history, but it’s not an exaggeration to say that Gochiusa completed it.
To be precise, it’s the anime “Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka?”
That is the standard Kirara style.

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:47

So what is it?
Are you saying that doujin work and Kanamemo aren’t the standard?

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:50Yeahx2

>>78Dojin Work only seemed like an ordinary Kirara manga to me at the time, but I think Kanamemo is interesting.
It’s just that the poison is so strong that it’s quite far from the current concept of Kirara.
Both were ambitious works in terms of anime.

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:47

Is Kill Me Baby awesome?

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:50

>>79Isn’t it seriously amazing that we’ve been using only the initial characters until now, and new named characters are coming out and going viral?

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:48

From looking at volume 1 of GochiUsa, the art has improved too much.

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:48

The growth of the characters, the abundance of good characters, and the readability as a four-panel comic all make it an unparalleled masterpiece.

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:50

I’m surprised that nurumeta has reached its sixth year.

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:50Yeahx1

Gochiusa is really easy to read.
Because it’s high quality, there are many different writings, and there must be many characters talking on the spot, yet it feels refreshing.

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:51Yeahx1

I really like the opening of Volume 2 of Nurumeta with Sakina and Chiaki.

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:53Yeahx1

I think it’s impossible for other long-running series to go viral just by introducing a new named character.

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:53Yeahx1

I like how Nurumeta brings out themes like family or classmates in each volume.

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:56

The fixed size of the frames is mentioned as a commonality with video media, but due to the small size of the frames, the composition rarely remains the same when animated.
Rather, I feel that being able to freely restructure the composition when adapting it into an anime is an advantage compared to other manga adaptations.

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:56

To be honest, I think four-panel comics don’t need to be divided into panels and are easier than coming up with drama in slice-of-life stories; otherwise, it’s a genre that only attracts eccentric characters.

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:56

Is the new Kirara work announced for anime adaptation in Summer Bad Girls the last one?

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:58

It’s a mystery that even though it’s been serialized for quite a long time, there are no signs of it being adapted into an anime.

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:58

Is it okay to do it with a walnut!?

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:59

>>97You are over here.

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:58

Akita Land Gothic, what year is that manga from?

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:59

3. Standardize the character arrangementI feel somewhat reassured as a reader when there are “familiar screens from that manga.”I understand.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:59

>>101I don’t like Kirara, but I like Suzuhead.

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:59

There are too many things right now that I want to be animated.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)18:59

ぬるめたはアニメ化する時にアニメーションに求められる要素のハードルが高そう

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:00

I think the tone of the first volume of Nurumetah is quite difficult in various ways…

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:00

The new Abyssmal work has a great atmosphere, and the renewed Blue Knight (publication) was really stylish, so I recommend it.
The new Abyssmal work has a great atmosphere, and the renewed Blue Knight (publication) was really s...

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:01

>>106Is the atmosphere of Abismal serious?

117: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:01Yeahx1

>>110The atmosphere is like Disgaea.

121: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:04

>>110It’s probably a stylish action comedy with a decisive gimmick.
そんなにシリアスには寄せない気がする

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:00

Nurumeta is the type that, even if animated, will not sell at all like Kill Me, and its lack of sales will become a topic later on.
The anime “Nichijou” (written by Keiichi Arai), which the person is referencing, will meet the same fate.

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:00

The skills are great and there is creativity, but somehow it doesn’t seem to appeal widely at all…

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:00Yeahx3

It feels like Kirara’s ranking has MAX as the eternal second place, but right now MAX is the most interesting magazine.

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:01

>>109I think it’s become a magazine as heated as Carat was at one point.

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:01Yeahx1

Please release more erotic comics.

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:03

>>111It’s a different person than s… and the account is also different.

126: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:07

>>119By the way, regarding this fanbox diary…

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:01

As expected from an analysis by a long-term serialized author, it was an incredibly informative article.

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:01

Speaking of which, there used to be a campaign-related site where you could chat with a girl named Nurumeta, and it had elements of communicating with that girl secretly from parents and getting her to send selfies, which was incredibly arousing, so I would love for it to come back.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:01

Nurmuta has a lot of haters.
Unusually many
It seems like the editorial department is having trouble dealing with it too.

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:01

I thought it was amazing that other than Houbunsha, no one could carry on with 4-koma specialty magazines, but it seems that the know-how wasn’t preserved internally all this time.
How is it really continuing?

120: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:04

>>116I have the impression that once you attract people by using anime, you end up in a years-long cycle of low-level operations, like a never-ending struggle.

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:03Yeahx1

The first volume of Nurumeta has a unique feel that heavily draws from the archetype vibe, but from around the second volume, the story stabilizes and becomes quite interesting.

122: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:04

Is kokamu moto odyk a different person?

123: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:04

I didn’t even realize I couldn’t tell Kurumi and Yuki apart myself…
I was convinced when it turned into that after dropping the color manga to monochrome.

124: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:05

I think Nurumeta would be popular if it were made into a regular anime.
I want them to air anime around the same time.

125: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/09(Mon)19:05

I feel like it has become more interesting now that it has deviated from the template of modifying the walnut and showing it to Yuki.

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