
I have been transporting almost daily, to what extent has my imagination become real? With this, I can prevent magic power from being detected at the destination. All that’s left is to dispose of the body. Let’s exchange the handcart; it seems like I can carry it with this. Compressing the futon bag, air, and tying it up, maybe the body can fit in this. The place to dispose of the body is an abandoned mine I visited before, which has been closed for over 20 years. It’s a hidden location, and it might be troublesome to enter around the entrance. Once inside, there is a hole a few hundred meters deep. If I drop it here, it probably won’t be found.
To move to a less crowded place by bike or car
In a place like that, it’s obvious that you’d stand out and easily get caught…
>>1They have cameras set up on the way to places that are not popular for illegal dumping countermeasures.
It seems like I might stand out and get caught on the way to that abandoned mine.
Carrying such a large storage box is already highly suspicious.
>>3If I’m not careful, I might be reported for “carrying a heavy load on my bike… that seems dangerous… I’ll just ask the police to keep an eye on it.”
Using a comforter compression is helpful.
>>4What do you intend to use this as a reference for?
You should just eat it.
>>5It’s one of the correct answers, but…
Almost all major roads have cameras now.
This is too tricky.
>>6The N system is amazing!
>>6Even if it’s not a main focus, it’s still present here and there.
>>6It’s really suspicious that the person in the thread has a big bag going there but doesn’t have it on the way back.
Even in places that seem to have no people coming and going at first glance, that’s often not the case.
People heading to unpopular places stand out.
Huh, is this just a fantasy?
Pulling a storage box weighing as much as a person along an unpaved road alone would probably be nearly impossible, right?
Dividing it into small portions to dispose of it is hard to get caught, but only someone who’s not in their right mind can do it.
The current level of security cameras is really effective when something happens, isn’t it?
In the first place, you would do it to someone you reasonably resent, right? The circumstantial evidence would first identify about 90% of the suspects.
>>14While random acts of violence that don’t involve hiding a body are hard to catch, family revenge murders, no matter how cleverly the body is hidden, are quickly discovered.
It may seem contradictory, but the success rate has already decreased at the point of planning in advance.
>>14The police first start by investigating the relationships.
I would store it in the freezer for a year.
If the police come during that time and are suspicious enough to look in the refrigerator, there’s no way to hide it anyway.
>>15Even if you are told to show this if it’s optional, you can say no, and that way you can keep it hidden; in fact, there are those who have actually avoided it.
Well, after that I was searched at my home with a warrant, but I was able to escape abroad… I was immediately caught upon returning, though.
Don’t do something like that…
As long as the security camera footage is kept for a month, it’s better than nothing; if you haven’t been suspected for over a year, you might have a chance.
There are a lot of dragging marks in the abandoned mine…
It’s good to feed it to pigs.
I know for sure because I saw it in a movie.
>>19First, if you want to be a rancher or use fish as bait, you need to start by becoming a fisherman.
Driving a scooter with 40kg loaded on the rear is quite difficult…
There are certainly disposal methods that won’t be easily found by third parties in the mountains or the sea.
In reality, the act of murder itself is discovered first, and from there, the person’s movements are investigated, so no matter how cleverly you hide the body, it doesn’t matter.
It is far more important not to be picked up as a suspect in a murder case, and avoiding this is a challenging task.
>>21It’s going to get quite tough at any point where there’s some kind of connection.
It’s still harder to find a chance with a random attacker.
It makes me feel like there are always people watching, even before the existence of surveillance cameras… when I watch news about real incidents.
I feel that pretending to be a random attacker is the best option.
>>22In the city, there are cameras everywhere, and even on country roads, or rather it’s the country roads that are closely monitored, so it’s a dead end.
When I try to write a mystery novel, it becomes too difficult and I give up.
>>110Set the stage in the Heisei era.
It seems difficult unless the person is someone who wouldn’t be suspicious of going missing in the first place.
Of course, there are cases where a perfect crime has been committed, but I often see news that says, “Wow, how did they find that…?”
>>23There are even tricks that use this.
>>37Whyyyyyy!!
>>42The movie version was especially a masterpiece, wasn’t it?
Eat it cooked together with seasonings.
I heard that freezing it and feeding it to the dog every day is the least likely to be discovered.
The lack of popularity means that there are also few people visiting there.
This makes it easier to narrow down the suspect.
I’m not a professional criminal, so I can’t avoid the N system either.
It’s a struggle even to dispose of things like microwaves.
When it comes to murder itself, that’s different from just hiding a body.
First, it’s too difficult to hide the fact that I came into contact with the other person…
When I think about dismembering a corpse, the narrowness of Japanese homes, the number of surveillance cameras, and the extremely good security all infinitely overlap, making it obvious for outsiders.
Is it best to bleed, break down, freeze, and dispose of small amounts of raw garbage?
>>30Since the surveillance camera can tell where the movement stopped, it will be tough if the entire area around there is searched thoroughly.
However, the difference in capabilities varies greatly by municipality, so where you live is also important.
It seems possible if it’s Kanagawa Prefecture.
>>321If it’s the Kanagawa Prefectural Police, it will end with a confession.
>>342Someone other than me confessed…
The case of the dismembered body parts scattered haphazardly on the roadside in the middle of Tokyo is still unsolved…
It’s easy to say just bury it in the mountains! But if an unfamiliar car is parked for a long time in the countryside, it stands out a lot and sticks in people’s memory!
>>33Because there are people who commit suicide by exhaust fumes, I make sure to check inside very thoroughly.
I feel like it’s less likely to get caught transporting things boldly during the day than sneaking around at night.
The way to not get caught when you’re not caught yet.
If you leave it somewhere out of sight, I think it will always bother you no matter what.
If the security and infrastructure of the entire area are in decline, it would be difficult to gather evidence.
There are patterns where the concealment was well done, but the situation becomes suspicious when people who entered the building do not come out and go missing, leading to it eventually being discovered.
Seriously, places where you won’t be noticed are not well-maintained, so you can’t easily go there.
Places that can be reached by car or motorcycle are basically areas where there are people around.
It seems likely that they will track down those who abandon the cases and compression bags.
It seems better to take off the clothes, crush the face and teeth, and throw them into a hole.
Why not buy a mountain?
>>46Just because you’ve become the rightful owner on paper doesn’t mean the mountain belongs to you…
I’m going to commit a swap murder.
Sometimes I have these kinds of delusions.
If I discard a corpse in a place where no one goes, I think it won’t be found.
I think it’s suspicious that I’m going there at this point.
>>48When someone goes to a place where no one else goes… they stand out!
>>48First of all, the fact that I can handle one person means that it’s generally a place where quite a few people can go.
Not just the camera that’s placed there, but if it was even slightly captured by the dashcam in the car…
Well then, let’s look for records of the cars that were driving around during that time.
In a relay format, if there is a certain level of traffic, it will almost certainly be found.
If the target is someone that no one would search for even if they go missing, then maybe it won’t become a case, which could mean a higher success rate.
Whether there is any benefit to killing such a person is another matter.
Even if I thought I put in a ridiculous effort to throw it away deep in the mountains, during the day it still stands out normally.
For hikers, it was quite obvious in a spot slightly off the mountain path.
A remote mountain that can only carry one person isn’t anything special, you know.
There are more houses with security cameras nowadays, so even if you avoid the main roads, you’ll still get caught!
There are mountains that you can drive to, but they are filled with people.
Since your acquaintances could lead to your identification, wouldn’t it be better to go for a swap murder, which might be less likely to get caught?
>>54Instead, the risks that cannot be managed by oneself will increase and may be exposed by the other party.
>>54It can be revealed by traces of details being aligned.
There is a possibility that the other party may confess due to an inability to bear their conscience, so it’s delicate.
If you are suspected because of your relationship, then you should do it with a stranger…
>>55In fact, crimes against unspecified victims, like random attacks, are difficult to trace except through evidence at the scene.
>>55The idea is like a serial killer.
>>55A-kun wants to kill someone, but B-kun, who has nothing to do with it, ends up killing them.
B wants to kill someone, but A, who is completely unrelated, ends up killing them.
Christie wrote a novel about an accomplice, didn’t she?
As expected of Christie.
>>672This happened a few years ago in the country.
A killed him properly, but B got scared and reported it, making it public.
A-kun was caught for murder, and on top of that, the person he wanted dead is still alive, so it’s a huge loss.
It must be really unpleasant, but…
After treatment with preservatives, it’s been hidden in your home for over a year.
I feel like it’s a good idea to do something nice when the heat has died down.
I have no idea what to do to feel good.
>>57The information states that you were the last person to see Mr./Ms. ○○, who is currently missing.
>>75Well, even if you say that!
We said goodbye normally that day!
Is there evidence?!
Please bring the warrant!
>>100👮 (This guy is guilty.)
I imagined burying something in the garden at home, but since cars pass by normally, it would be seen right away and I’d get caught, so my daydream ended.
Make the body transparent.
Feed the eel.
Should I cut off a little bit every day and flush it down the toilet?
>>62That’s been found out.
No matter how perfectly a body is hidden, if a person goes missing, a search request will be filed.
If it is determined that there is a possibility of an incident, each person who may have come into contact is examined, and that’s where they get caught.
If a completely unrelated third party is the perpetrator and the evidence destruction is perfect, they would likely escape with a high probability, but it’s unlikely that a completely unrelated third party would commit such a planned murder in the first place…
>>63There are a lot of missing persons every year, and we can’t search for everyone individually, so it’s okay as long as their bodies aren’t found.
“Just by having contact with the victim and acting in a way that is unusual for them lately, they end up being investigated.”
I have to complete the crime and concealment without deviating from my usual behavior as much as possible.
There were cases where the woman who killed in broad daylight hasn’t been caught yet.
Even though DNA traces are left behind and there are sightings of someone washing blood-stained hands in the park, they haven’t been caught.
If you have the spirit of iron, is it possible to eat everything?
If you equip for climbing and abandon it in a difficult area of the Alps, it should not be retrieved.
>>69Even trained climbers can get lost on high-difficulty mountains, and you’re telling me to traverse it with a fully-equipped person while avoiding detection by anyone!?
>>113Climbing at night is already an extraordinary feat…
>>130There are not many people in the country who can do this.
Rather than thinking about how to hide it poorly, it’s better to move to a place like the Kanagawa Prefectural Police, which is super incompetent.
If you act differently than usual, you’ll be found out immediately, so I need to incorporate murder and body concealment into my daily routine.
Is it not possible to gradually scatter it into the sea after mincing it?
>>73It seems suspicious that a large amount of blood is flowing into the sewage.
>>73If you are suspected, you will be found out.
There are examples where it got found out, right?
There are surprisingly a lot of people in the mountains and forests.
There are traces of logging and branch trimming everywhere you go.
There are occasionally heavy machines in the midst of being praised for logging.
No matter how you think about it, there’s no one else but that person who could be the criminal, yet even as the first person to discover the murder, they still don’t get arrested easily.
Well, it’s not uncommon to find bulky trash illegally dumped in the mountains in the suburbs.
It might be a good idea to just throw it away in a place like that.
In that case, those who threw away other garbage will also be considered suspects.
>>78It can be identified quickly from resentment…
It’s one thing if it’s a homeless person or a runaway boy or girl.
Isn’t it super difficult to completely erase someone who is firmly integrated into society?
>>79So, the experienced guys in the Yakuza would spend months getting close and then use a two-pronged approach on the execution day, killing with acute alcohol poisoning from a large amount of liquor and staging an accident.
In the end, the fact that the person remembers it is the most troublesome aspect of a perfect crime.
>>81If you get cornered and throw up, then any perfect crime becomes meaningless.
I believe that there is no place that only I know.
If I can notice it, then at least five other people know as well.
Missing persons → It seems that there’s a high unresolved rate for cases where they happened to mummify and were forgotten for decades.
The absolute number seems small, and the patterns of resolution might not just be gaining attention.
In the thread, it seems like if you’re even slightly suspected and your shopping history gets investigated, it would already be a serious situation.
>>84So, if we assume that this kind of thing becomes popular, I think it’s a given that we should prepare the tools little by little well in advance to avoid being tracked.
There was recently news that a body missing for 14 years was found in a storage unit…
It was only revealed due to the overdue rent.
Sometimes there are cases where they are on top of water tanks or elevators and go unnoticed for years.
It’s probably best not to take it out, just to keep it at home.
I’m thinking that if I quickly drop it off the cliff on the mountain path, it should be easy, but it’ll probably be found in an instant.
These kinds of stories generally proceed on the assumption that the police won’t make any bad moves.
In other words, the police themselves may be a target because they are not trusted.
>>92It seems much more likely to succeed than the quality of a little planning.
Without a reason strong enough to want to kill, one cannot take the risk of committing murder.
In other words, don’t get too deeply involved as a stakeholder…
>>93Random attacker…
On the contrary, if you live in the countryside and own land, wouldn’t it go unnoticed?
>>95In the countryside, there is a well-developed network for monitoring the elderly…
If you can make your target homeless, that’s good.
>>96I don’t know why I want to kill, but at this point, I probably have avenged myself!
What should I do…
It seems that making it seem like an accident rather than a murder would have a higher success rate for hiding the body.
If there is a relationship with the victim, you are relatively likely to get caught.
If it has nothing to do with it, it’s less likely to get caught.
It’s not about the body not being discovered, but rather about not being traced back to oneself from the body that should be emphasized…
In the case of a person who was killed for a reason, you can trace it back to that reason.
Normal people tend to exhibit behavior that is almost a confession when confronted by professional police.
If you’re someone who’s really good at conversation and has high communication skills, I don’t know, but there probably isn’t anyone like that here.
>>104There was also a case where I was caught because I responded too fluently and logically without being nervous at all.
It seems difficult unless I receive proper acting training.
How do you plan to tie a box that just makes you gasp when you wake it up with a corpse inside to a moped…?
Isn’t it that a futon compression bag can’t prevent odors and decay gases from penetrating?
Don’t you have to do something like putting it in a drum and treating the gas with a filter?
>>107The thread’s image suggested that they wanted to do something with a corpse from a few days after death.
A perfect crime that does not involve committing the act.
There are always eyewitness accounts for things like this, but I’ve never seen such suspicious people in my life, so I don’t think I’ll be able to help when the police ask me.
I wonder how large in scale the search for missing persons is…
>>112I probably wouldn’t do it at all unless it’s for children.
Because I feel like I’m being crushed by anxiety, fear, and guilt, killing someone is not something to do.
>>115So it should be done with the mentality of “I committed the perfect crime!”
You can’t avoid the camera while on the way to throw it away in the mountains.
>>117If that route exists, illegal dumping operators must be using it.
>>117If you’re going to keep using back roads, that’s one thing.
Once you use a major highway even once, it’s game over…
If the other person is an adult, you’re going to be carrying a small but 50kg chunk of meat, and at that point, it’s already tough.
An incident where someone thought they wouldn’t be found out if they threw someone into a latrine without any witnesses, but it was immediately discovered.
When I asked ChatGPT for a discreet way to handle a deer weighing about 60 kg, it didn’t give me an answer.
>>122Clever…
First of all, the fact that it’s an abandoned mine makes it highly likely to be a holy place for ruin enthusiasts.
The places where humans can go are accessible because the local people maintain them.
It’s appreciated, isn’t it?
In the book, it was written, “Murder cases are investigated thoroughly, but missing adults are hardly investigated, so it’s important to make it seem like a runaway.”
Human bipedalism is quite unique; you can tell at a glance because the bones in the legs are long in the vertical direction.
I feel like climbing the mountain together and pushing you off the cliff is the best option.
>>129Fishing boats are great too.
>>129If I love climbing mountains so much that I climb a dangerous mountain alone, I might die someday…
In remote island areas, uninhabited islands that are not tourist spots are harder to get caught.
I feel like it’ll be found out before I can deliver it.
I want to learn how to bleed it out.
Being able to kill without making contact is really convenient, isn’t it?
If it’s a random killing, it might be possible to aim for a perfect crime.
It’s like the means and the end are reversed…
You want to commit murder to verify the perfect crime…
>>134Sometimes there are people like this, which is troublesome.
>>134It’s like a strong enemy in the mid to late stages of a mystery drama…
If you’re hiding a corpse from a random killer, you might not get caught, but it’s absolutely insane to commit murder for 100% personal pleasure against someone you don’t know at all.
>>135The serial killings involving the storage of corpses in Zama are close to that.
In other words, a perfect crime hasn’t been discovered, so isn’t murder basically just a failed attempt that got caught?
The general type of vehicle was narrowed down from the tire marks remaining in the area.
You can narrow it down to the cars that headed towards the mountains that day using surveillance cameras from nearby houses and convenience stores, right?
When someone goes missing, it seems like the search stops as soon as it crosses into another prefecture.
>>138As expected
I want to clear it.
It’s fine to keep treating yourself to alcohol and greasy food every day.
>>140Aren’t we close friends?
If you do it under the jurisdiction of the Kanagawa Prefectural Police, there’s a chance.
There are probably many people who have successfully committed the perfect crime not because they had a meticulous plan, but because they were lucky.
The proper way is to take it apart over the night, blend it in a mixer, and flush it down the sewer.
>>147That’s when the apartment mystery incident was uncovered.
>>170Well, that incident was revealed through a corpse in the end, wasn’t it…
>>147Sewage is regularly inspected, so if something strange flows in, we will immediately investigate where it came from and what it is.
>>195The blood that has dripped from the hemorrhoid-ridden old men, numbering in the tens of thousands.
Can the traces of the murder victim be distinguished?
In the end, are we going to push them off while climbing the regular route?
Cat litter absorbs bad odors and liquids, so when I bought a lot and covered the body with it, it wasn’t discovered in the house.
I was asked by the lady at the water department if I was okay since my water usage has skyrocketed compared to last month, so I realized it was impossible to flush it down the toilet.
I guess you can tell just by looking at the meter, huh?
Shall we go hiking together and let you slip?
>>151At the time of hiking together, he was probably the prime suspect.
>>182I lost my footing!
On the contrary, they boldly bury it in the grave.
It was fun handling the type of 5kg fleshy hole, almost like processing a body.
Sometimes there are cases where someone can be found guilty even without a body.
Recently, there are trail cameras for harmful wildlife measures in the mountains, so we can’t let our guard down.
To someone from the city, the Nasu mountains probably seem like a land inhabited by uncivilized tribes where bears roam freely.
From the locals’ perspective, it’s just an ordinary hiking course…
It’s not like you can just throw it away in a place like that.
Let’s invite someone fishing and drop them into the sea.
It’s difficult to arrest a random attacker.
It’s because they’re a lunatic that overturns the basic premise that humans act rationally.
If the serial killer targets indiscriminately, it makes the investigation difficult because there is no connection to the victims.
If it’s related to grudges or troubles, it’s easy to see that the relationship has become complicated.
In our countryside, there are no streetlights, but are there really surveillance cameras placed there?
There are probably people who don’t get caught.
There is no guarantee that you can go to the side of someone who won’t be found out when you take action.
If Hossy hadn’t left fingerprints, would he have been caught?
>>166The police were already keeping a close watch, so there was no way to do that anyway.
Even without fingerprints, it’s suspicious.
Wasn’t there news about teeth being found in a sewer pipe that got revealed?
>>167Is it the one from the host that had the implant left?
First, you’re going to investigate safe escape routes without security cameras and routes to dispose of the body, right?
I realize that it’s better to quit.
The original source of “Cold Fish” is similar; if done indiscriminately, it can go unnoticed even with dozens of people involved.
Things like this often go unnoticed, even though they clearly seem to be impulsive murders…
Random acts of violence will remain unsolved.
An invincible person acts openly in broad daylight and is caught quickly.