
… Yanagi Mataemon Munenori, Iwamoto Kogan.
What is it?
Feudalism is scary, isn’t it?
>>1It seems like you’ve mostly risen up from karate, huh?
Yagyu is not an individual.
If one step goes wrong, Munekata could be blown away as well.
Rude person.
>>5It was the first moment I saw such a heavy statement of rudeness.
Yagyu is also juggling other responsibilities besides guidance, so everyone around probably thought (What is this guy doing? Can’t he read the room…)
Even without a mistake with my fingers, I would have been demoted for some other trivial matter.
My Discovery of the Best!
Although Yagyu was born in Yagyu, Muneharu himself is skilled in martial arts and politics, and he is also quite exceptional as a cultural figure.
Considering the background, it makes one wonder where Munemori honed that political skill.
Having both political power and sword skills is so perfect that it tends to make one a likely villain.
>>11In the first place, it was so exceptional at that time that it was used to add prestige to various schools and swordsmen, making it ideal for portraying villains or enemies.
Since there are few protagonists like Ieyasu, making him the main character wouldn’t be interesting…
If I say, “I was told this by Yagyu,” won’t Yagyu get punished together with me?
>>14I don’t know!
>>14It might just look like an ugly excuse.
There is an aspect of Yagyu Shinkage-ryu that includes political maneuvering as well…
I think the Yagyu family is a lord and that their origin is different.
I don’t know where Tiger Eye-sensei was born.
>>18This is it.
The rest is to get along with the generals who fought together on the battlefield.
Munerin rose to prominence in the Tokugawa shogunate and exploited us.
The Yagyu family’s main line of daimyo has been stripped of their title.
They’re like a protagonist from a light novel.
“Have the skill to win without hesitation in the match, Tiger Uncle.”
>>21Living like that is something a different person can do.
Even Miyamoto Musashi didn’t have a decent job throughout his life…
>>22However, the adopted child became a senior retainer of the Hosokawa family at a young age, and through generations as a senior retainer, left the name Miyamoto Musashi, so they are a huge winner.
This interview is being conducted by Masamune Honda, right?
Well then, it’s possible that creating intentional points loss with Munemoto and the synergy of Aun, and pointing out the points lost, led to the possibility of the predetermined race being discarded.
Date Masamune’s political power is so high that, to be honest, there’s no room for someone like Tora or Irako to intervene.
>>25In the first place, Chuden was being abandoned, and the Kakegawa itself was a sinking ship.
It’s said that it can’t be seen from the middle to the lower layers of the pyramid…
>>27Ilariko didn’t understand that much, did he?
Furthermore, they were trying to make a name for themselves by cutting down Fujiki in front of the daimyō who came to watch the match.
(I should have knocked his jaw off.)
Regardless of political power, is there really that much difference in swordsmanship?
When he was young, Sensei Torao must have navigated through the Warring States period.
I wonder why I wasn’t promoted.
>>29Well, since the sword is ultimately a personal skill… you can only gain noticeable achievements by being in a position to devise strategies and take command, and then succeeding.
Sure, individuals can earn promotions by capturing enemy generals, but it heavily depends on luck.
>>29Stand in front of the great person holding a weapon, and what is most necessary for a swordsmanship instructor is trust, right?
Although Ishibun-sai caused its decline, there is a world of difference between the powerful clans from the Nanbokucho period and some unknown person.
It seems that Towa-sensei cannot meet the demand for self-defense techniques like the ones Ishibusa was developing, which were based on the skills of handling weapons with bare hands that masters had been doing through intuition and experience until then, and that Ieyasu wanted.
Considering the risk of losing outright, it was probably reasonable to accept the proposal for a draw.
In reality, I thought I had imposed conditions for an exchange, but I was completely defeated by a swordsmanship idiot who faced me head-on… thanks, Master Togen.
The real Munemitsu suddenly appeared from nowhere to mediate the disputes between the daimyo.
Beyond amazing, it’s scary.
When wearing armor, the techniques of the Tōgan-ryū are quite ineffective.
They say that a three-inch cut can kill a person, but such areas are mostly fortified.
>>34Is it an advantage for the brothers who can slice through helmets?
>>34By the way, 3 sun is 9 centimeters, so it means it’s cutting into about half the thickness of the body.
Is the gun prevention measure that Fujiki did the Tiger Eye style?
The fact that Yagyu Munenori is willing to have a match with an outsider is unusual.
Normally, it’s a rejection at the gate.
Is Shinkage-ryu strong in terms of strength?
Or is it just because they are skilled at politics that they adopted it?
>>38They are strong, skilled in politics, lucky, and have great perseverance.
>>38There is a tale that during the Siege of Osaka, while serving as a bodyguard for Hidetada, he swiftly defeated several armored warriors from the Toyotomi side who approached Hidetada.
>>38The Yagyu Shinkage-ryu became famous because of Muneharu’s brother, Muneaki Gorōemon, who killed 18 people during the Yokota incident in the Komego Domain.
Munekata was skilled in politics, so he was invincible.
In terms of Mune’s promotion speed, he is a monster among monsters…
Boss: “What should I do to be able to use the Tora-Gan style?”
Mr. Togane: “First, we will develop the strength to hang from the ceiling using just your fingers.”
The big shot said, “Go home.”
This will happen.
>>40Around that area, Tora’s eye understands that, so he tells his disciples to talk about things that great people want to hear, rather than focusing on practical benefits when in front of important people.
Ohhhh!! If it’s Yagyu who’s saying that, he would gladly fight to the death with Master Kogan.
>>42Mr. Tora in light of his strength, might not stand a chance against Munenori…
>>62In the world of the Elite Guards, the Tokugawa Buff is amazing.
It is extremely rare to find a swordsman who can also engage in politics.
It seems that Marume Nagoe was also excellent as a cultural figure, but he made a mistake in judgment on the battlefield and ended up on the path to demotion.
>>45Losing the castle due to a scheme in Satsuma is that…
>>45Even though both are military family swordsmanship instructors, Ono Tadaaki has only 600 koku.
It shows the peculiarity of Munemitsu, doesn’t it?
That old man from the Kabuto-Wari clan is indeed the one who made a name for himself on the battlefield and opened a dojo.
Mr. Tora’s desire wasn’t to become stronger, but to rise in status!
It’s interesting that in real life, the greatest swordsman, Kamiizumi Nobutsuna, made a shinai because it was dangerous to get injured during training.
>>52That person is more of a sword saint than a swordsman…
Munekata is in a position to inherit Yagyu’s 2000 koku and has succeeded in doing so, so the starting point is quite different.
>>56It was Sosaku who regained what was lost during my father’s time.
>>76That’s right, the eldest son was injured in the siege of Nobunaga, leaving his inheritance in a lurch, and he was exposed for hiding rice fields, losing his land.
And then, by serving the Tokugawa, he achieved success in the Battle of Sekigahara primarily through logistical support that relied on the family’s credibility.
If there were a lack of any one of a home, luck, or personal ability, things wouldn’t have turned out this way.
Seeing Mr. Togen’s teaching method, it would be impossible to promote anyone…
>>57“But ‘important people don’t like grotesque things, so you shouldn’t hit in the exhibition match.'”
I’m giving proper guidance…
>>59It must be coming from my own experience.
They make us practice drills that have a higher injury rate than actual combat.
The tiger cubs are doing it because they like it, so it’s fine.
It’s sad that a Kakegawa samurai has to come to a place like this because he is the swordsmanship instructor of the domain.
>>60There might be guidance aimed in that direction as well.
Owari Yagyu is superior, right?
>>63I feel a sense of sorrow that makes me think there was no other choice because of how amazing Munemoto is.
Let’s assume that Rigen, the founder of the Owari Yagyu, who is married but does not work and is solely devoted to swordsmanship, was worse at swordsmanship than Munenori, who works to support his family.
The one who has the right to be the angriest is Munenori, isn’t it?
In other words, the Toraken style is like a bamboo shoot…
>>66The mouth is the source of disaster.
>>68Action
Mr. Tora is so bad at faking a smile that it’s funny.
I’m sure the boss has noticed that.
There is a line confirming that he was granted permission for his techniques by a high disciple of the Toraigan-ryū, which implicitly means that he had issued permits in terms of money or obligation.
It seems that Fujiki was just too stoic, while the others were guiding more normally.
>>71Well, they probably raised you thinking you were the heir.
Holding a burnt chopstick.
I caught a glimpse of the changes in Yagyu Munenori’s perspective in creation.
That was interesting.
>>72In the past, Munerin was the mastermind secretly plotting to undermine the protagonist using the Ura Yagyu.
I’m a bit curious about where it switched to being treated like a sword saint with political power like it is now.
I think Master Tora is also a successful person, in a way.
It’s a considerable amount of wealth, and I’m a guide for the clan.
>>73The domain…
Mr. Toraigan ignored the recommendation of Ushimata and chose Irako as his successor.
Until I see the motorcycle, I can’t trust Ushimune and Fujiki; anyway, my ability to judge people is way off.
>>77In the original work, both are excellent, but since Mie seems to like Irako, maybe I’ll choose Irako… even though it’s the grandfather saying this.
Since the exhibition matches only attract those on the decline, I don’t think you’d normally participate in the Tiger Eye style.
The tiger-eye in the thread is really cool.
Leaving aside moral obligations, I believe I was able to handle financial matters properly before things became ambiguous.
>>83Since it continued to function properly even after becoming ambiguous, Tiger Eye-sensei is amazing.
>>86The heir of the Iwamoto family has properly registered as Fujiki.
When I first read it, I thought, “Wow, Tōgan is stronger than Munenori,” but when they confronted each other, Munenori immediately judged, “I can’t win against this,” which shows he is a true expert and it’s really cool.
In the end, Toragami-style is just the principle of finger snapping, isn’t it?
Even Kiyogen Irako
No joking, FGO has reached a level where it is arguably the best handled in recent creations.
The rate of being a chew toy villain is high.
Azumi is terrible.
>>87Even though he is a swordsman, the image that he has become a powerful figure of the ruling class has continued to linger due to jealousy.
To be honest, other swordsmen and famous schools were also aiming for that, but it just didn’t work out.
When trying to identify the protagonist while disguising himself as an ordinary person in the Yagyu Renya Martial Arts Diary, he got pissed off by the attendant’s light remarks and attacked.
It was a terrible treatment to be pushed into the river, ending up in tatters while spouting resentful words and dying soon after.
>>88Even so, their skill level was strong enough to make the young teacher prepare for death.
The expert episodes are fairly plentiful, but the politician persona is too strong.
During the Warring States period, martial skills were the most important, but in the peaceful era, what is required of samurai is the ability to serve as officials. Once you misunderstand that point, there’s nothing you can do.
>>90“Even the person himself was complaining that he misses the Sengoku era…”
So those worthless people who think it would be good if the world were thrown into chaos again, led by a dark lord, are the ones to be eliminated.
>>91(There’s no chance… for this.)
I’m getting scolded for knocking out the jaw of my favorite martial artist, and it’s a mystery how Master Togan climbed up to become a mentor.
It’s like using a cat’s paw and hiding it with the sleeve.
Calmly looking at it, it definitely seems like there’s a strong intention to kill.
The Seven Schools of the Imperial Guards are also good.
Juzan is absolutely! I support Yagyu Munenori! The Tokugawa family’s martial arts instructor’s palm is cursed! The princess! In the battle on the Osaka side, the desperate troops of spearmen led by Kimura Nagamon no Kami have also been defeated, striking down with a solitary sword!
Even when he’s become a feeble old man, he’s still half-killing people with his “If we don’t mess around, I’ll hit you,” so it must have been even worse in the past.
Sakon’s Munenori is also a villain, but I like him because he is strong.
Twin-tail Munekata
He is an old man who loves to sneak into other daimyos’ houses and dance…
In Showa era historical novels, characters like Tohru Arayama and Keiichiro Takahashi were written as villains.
On the other hand, Yamaoka Sōhachi and Yoshikawa Eiji wrote about them as good characters.
The biggest reason was probably that it was more convenient for storytelling to have a villain secretly working behind the scenes than a politician who was influential even among the great daimyos in the role of a shogun’s advisor.
Before the Yagyu style, even at the time of the Shin-Kage style, it had penetrated not only the samurai class but also the imperial aristocracy. The Shin-Kage style itself was a school built on the foundations of the prestigious Kage style, Katori, and Nen styles.
I understand that Mune-rin looks better in a villainous role.
The position of being a shadow fixer who is accompanied by Yagyu, serving the ruler of the land, is just too convenient to use.
One indirect cause of the biased evaluation of Iemitsu during the past was also due to Ieyasu.
It seems that, now that the history based on the documents has become clear, it would be a waste to use it merely as a villain.
Rather than Yagyu Munenori, it is the remarkable nature of his political stance and the position he attained.
>>109Aren’t there still a lot of times when you end up playing the villain?
Even if we call it documentation, the recognition of how amazing it was for a swordsman to become a feudal lord during the Showa era is no different from now.
Regarding the Tokugawa Shogunate, it has been filtered through the Meiji government until today.
In “Makai Tensei,” when provoked by Hyogo, the scene where it says, “Only those who are alive can defeat him” is incredibly cool.
It is often said that Owari Yagyu was jealous of the power of Edo Yagyu, but at least Toshigen turned down offers for military service under quite favorable conditions, so he probably thought it was troublesome and didn’t want to deal with it.
>>113I don’t know what he thought, but it would be impossible to surpass the power of Munenori, who became a feudal lord in his hometown of Yamato Yagyu while serving as an advisor to the shogunate.
You can’t really compare swordsmanship unless you’re actually fighting to the death, even back then.
>>114I’m hiring you as a military strategist, so it’s not just about swordsmanship; your daily actions are also subject to evaluation.
The way Seihō Suhō is depicted by Takagaki Ichirō is terrible.
A job where you have no choice but to comply with the unreasonable demands of the useless Hidetada, getting intimidated, anxious, and sweating over the protagonist’s achievements.
Mr. Tora’s intention may be to have learned various social skills, but the underlying savagery cannot be fully concealed.
No matter how many stones are received from another household, they are only a vassal.
The record of his active role on the battlefield regarding Munemori is significant.
Moreover, I am facing the warriors who charged into the main camp during the Siege of Osaka.
The position of chief inspector can be exaggerated in various ways.
You’re probably crossing all kinds of dangerous bridges that don’t appear in your creations.
I wonder what the relationship between Munenori and his family, or rather, Owari Yagyu, was like.
Miyamoto Musashi is often treated as having an unfortunate later life, even though he is a fictional character.
It’s not like that at all; I’m receiving over 300 koku, I have interactions as a cultured person, and it seems I was even allowed to engage in falconry…
>>123In the first place, Iorin has achieved success, so it’s a comfortable retirement.
It’s misunderstood because it’s ambiguous, but if you think about it, it’s just a bit violent, right?