The Saiyans’ limitless and reckless fighting nature.

Vegeta

Surprise Vegeta Theory

Is it where you mistakenly think you are strong and made a plan, despite being weak?

It’s the destruction god that doesn’t work that’s to blame, the destruction god.

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Retrofitted settings due to long-running serialization.

In fact, as long as Vegeta isn’t being manipulated, Gohan can play around with Dabura.
We were able to defeat Babidi and prevent Buu’s revival, right?

I wonder how far this person could win against Babidi’s subordinates.

Not realizing my feelings.

At least keep an eye on Buu’s sphere.
Don’t leave me alone.

Not trained enough to resolve the situation.

I was easily taken down by the inflated Saiyan team.
I wonder how strong Pui Pui and Yakon are compared to past characters.
Was it an opponent that even the Kaiōshin could defeat…?

I don’t understand at all why Boo is scared of Babidi and Dabura.

It seems that Dabura is stronger than Perfect Cell.
It’s only natural to be scared.

Isn’t it that only Gohan has been fighting against Dabura?
Moreover, Gohan is also quite battered.

I was playing around with Dabura above someone like Majin Buu.
At that time, Buu was the fat Buu who was not weakened and not separated yet.

The expected combat power was only a few units at the level of Babidi and Spopovich.
Initially, it seemed that if we could just find it, Kibito and I could manage somehow on our own.

There’s nothing bad about it except for being weak.
It’s all the Saiyans’ fault.

To be honest, if Vegeta had stayed in the venue,
I feel like it went according to the Supreme Kai’s plan.

Babidi may have low combat power, but you never know what kind of magic he might use, so isn’t that scary?

I believe Babidi himself may not have combat power, but being able to brainwash Dabura and Vegeta is quite a threat.

Not telling Ultimate Gohan about the absorption is a pretty big mistake.

Even weakness doesn’t seem so bad when you consider the existence of a destruction god.

Even if Gohan’s energy is taken away as it is.
In the end, it’s the energy of Goku vs. Vegeta that determines the outcome.
If we could somehow manage Vegeta, the plan for Nahare would be mostly on track.

If just one Trunks is on our side, we can stop Babidi’s plan… the plan and the outlook itself are not bad at all.
It only becomes irregular when that trio of Saiyans joins our side.

Why didn’t you contact Gohan in advance to explain the situation and accurately assess his abilities?

The plan to use Gohan as bait is completely because of this guy, although some defense is possible for the other matters.

But if we have to use Gohan as bait, we have to chase at that timing, because Goku can only stay on the ground for one day.

The biggest issue is that I knew about Babidi’s brainwashing ability.
Could it be that we asked for cooperation without properly investigating the spirit of the local collaborators?

It’s just that Vegeta, knowing that he would be used for Buu’s energy, went on a rampage…
During the Cell Saga, he also helped me become complete, and Vegeta’s rebelliousness until the Buu Saga is incredible.

Considering DAIMA, Dabra is a major figure for Nahare.

I feel like the part where I said it could be defeated with a single punch like Frieza was the peak.

I just realized from the comment above that if the timing had been off, there was a possibility that Vegeta and Gohan could have somehow managed it…

The added Destroyer God aside, Vegeta messed up way too much on his own.

Nahare is not particularly weak, though.
Nahare understands the strength of pure Buu and others properly.
The part where I was able to one-punch Frieza while being aware of that is what it’s all about.

A man who has his evaluation unfairly lowered due to being harshly criticized by the Old Kaioshin and Goku in the second half.

Even though Frieza powered up with mechanization, he was instantly killed by Future Trunks, who is clearly weaker than Androids 17 and 18.
Even the introduction of the Android Saga doesn’t serve as any kind of indicator anymore.

I wondered at the time why Cell’s perfect form wasn’t defeated in one punch.

A Dabura on the level of Perfect Cell is quite dangerous, and I think it’s understandable that the Kais would fear it.

Frieza had a god-like presence and dominated the universe, but Perfect Cell was born in a corner of the universe and died almost immediately.

What would have happened if the imperfect fat person had come back?

Dabura’s power is on par with Perfect Cell because it’s boosted by Babidi’s brainwashing, so I think he’s a bit weaker before the brainwashing.

It’s Vegeta’s blunder, but it’s also a time when Vegeta himself is regularly making a show of not being on our side.
The person had various thoughts about that area.

It’s the same with Trunks, but if these guys are stronger than Frieza, then they can erase a planet in one shot… I think about that a little.

There are also settings where Dabura is stronger before being brainwashed, which makes it complicated.
Well, looking at DAIMA, the one before the brainwashing seems weaker since he hasn’t been able to take the Dragon Ball from Tamagami.

Goku is explaining that there was a being called Cell in the past.
I think you should understand it.

At that point, it’s really impressive that he could unilaterally bind Super Saiyan 2 Gohan.
It’s all the fault of the guy who’s supposed to handle the rough work slacking off.

It’s true that Goku and the others were at fault for fighting 1 vs 1 just because they had the upper hand, but I also think it was impressive that Dabura realized he could control Vegeta in that situation.

I find it a bit amusing to think that it feels like the office staff had to step in because the site supervisor is sleeping.

Even the King of the North Galaxy, who only oversees that region, can’t just keep looking at Earth, so the Supreme Kai, who oversees the entire universe, probably can’t just keep looking at Earth either.

Well, no one has noticed that Third Eye is selling in stores.

If there’s no complete recovery, it won’t be worth discussing.

You can defeat Frieza with one punch, but the fact that you haven’t laid a hand on Frieza shows that…
Unless you indiscriminately destroy the universe like Pure Buu, I don’t think you’re interested.

I thought I could do it from the second half of the Cell saga to the end of the Boo saga, but it didn’t work out.

Goku and Vegeta are completely underestimating Dabura, who is stronger than Perfect Cell.
I was grumbling about how Gohan was struggling and telling him to hurry up and stop slacking off.
In reality, he’s normally strong, and while Goku is one thing, I think Vegeta being able to become Super Saiyan 2 doesn’t really make much of a difference.
So even in Super 2, there are extremes?

I think it means that rather than Dabura being weak, if Gohan were to get serious and really lose his temper, he could do much better.

I think the reason for urging Gohan is that there’s a high evaluation of his fighting power, and I’m also trying to show that I can manipulate him.

Perfect Cell is actually only strong enough that if Gohan were fully enraged, he would normally overpower him, so I think people are just overestimating Perfect Cell’s strength.

Vegeta’s evaluation of Gohan has been basically high throughout the series…

It’s even more complicated that Dabura exits like a weakling despite his capabilities.

If the future Trunks in Super gains a high basic battle power,
It has been proven that you can become strong enough to exceed Super 3 through doubling calculations.
Well, I think there are big differences even among the regular Super 2s.

Gohan had been training because he was always fighting until the Cell Saga.
Since then, I haven’t really trained much, especially with fighting or studying.

From Vegeta’s perspective, he probably thinks that if he hadn’t become a burden, he wouldn’t have struggled against Cell, so it’s natural for him to hold Gohan in high regard.

To be honest, Dabra’s role is to show that Buu is this much stronger than Cell…
It’s the same as Mecha Frieza.

For now, just take care of that rampaging Frieza.

Even if 1000 pieces of garbage increase to 100 times, it’s still a limited amount.