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[Oishinbo] Don’t be insensitive, nameless.

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The taste is getting worse and worse. It’s because they add acidifying seasoning and quality improvement agents when processing the noodles. When you eat it this way rather than as ramen, you can really understand the taste of the noodles themselves. The ramen at this ramen shop is greasy and loaded with spices, and you probably eat it while blowing on it because it’s hot. Moreover, there is a large amount of chemical seasoning in the soup. The elements that make the tongue sensitive overlap too much, dulling the flavor of the noodles. That’s certainly true. There are many people who act like critics and talk about ramen this way and that, but those who discuss things like whether the noodles are twisted or how chewy they are are just spouting nonsense.

1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:40Yeahx36

Well, Showa-era ramen is like this.

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:41Yeahx17

Is it that the seasoning is bad…?

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:46Yeahx9

>>2It is said that if you add too much, you will have a hard time tasting the noodles, and I suppose that’s true.

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:41Yeahx10

I feel like it was often said in the past that it smells like ammonia.

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:41

Anti-kanzai

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:43Yeahx9

Kikusui’s ramen can be stinky if you don’t drain it well with plenty of hot water.
I don’t know if that is Kansui, preservative, or dusting flour.

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:44Yeahx6

Nowadays, there are more shops that emphasize the taste of the noodles themselves rather than the aroma of wheat.

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:09

>>6Some shops have an unexpectedly amazing scent that surprises me.

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:44Yeahx7

Well, the noodles from back in the day… yeah…

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:46Yeahx12

On the contrary, there are times when eating noodles that recently emphasize the scent of wheat makes me think (it smells like wheat…).

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:46Yeahx1

Soba often gets a lot of attention regarding the taste of the noodles, but with udon, it’s mostly about the thickness and how it’s cooked, and you don’t often hear discussions about its flavor.
Isn’t it just that wheat noodles have less variation in taste?

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:48Yeahx4

>>9Pasta is quite popular.
Udon is really only talked about in terms of its texture, whether it has chewiness or not.

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:48Yeahx2

Ramen puts its life on the line for the soup.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:49Yeahx23

The “Oishinbo” series started in 1983, so if it’s ramen from 40 years ago, it would be like this.

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:50

The Chinese noodles at the upscale Chinese restaurant were different from what you would call ramen noodles, but they had a solid noodle flavor.

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:53

>>14In high-end places, they might not use the section chief for seasoning.

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:51Yeahx6

On the contrary, modern ramen may have advanced too much.

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:53

I still don’t really like noodles.
I would rather have it served with rice instead of noodles.

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:55

Thick or thin noodles.
It has frizzy hair in it.

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:55Yeahx3

Recently, the taste of noodles has become quite important.
It can be a bit tiresome when it seems like the thicker and chewier, the better.

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:58

After soaking in the rich-flavored soup.
If you make rice into fried rice, you won’t notice.

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)12:59

If you eat the noodles of the old ramen now, it’s amazing how strong the kansui smell is.

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:00Yeahx2

Ramen has changed to the level that it can be considered a different dish over the past few decades…

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:01

>>22I wonder when this thread image was drawn.

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:10

>>24I’m not sure if the story featuring the Ramen Three Musketeers was in the image in the thread, but that was in 1993, around that time.

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:13

>>42Around the Great War, Kurita-san wasn’t this cute.
When I was at the twin ramen shop, my hairstyle was different.
When was this again…?

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:20Yeahx1

>>42The thread image is a memory from the chilled Chinese noodles episode, long before The Three Musketeers.
I was thinking (using such an expensive ingredient in ramen…) when I saw the long-aged soy sauce ramen that Yamaoka and the others presented in the story of The Three Musketeers, but this high-spec soy sauce ramen mentioned in Re:Play Chronicles is exactly that.
I think it’s an amazing work, “Oiishinbo,” despite all the various things about it.

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:12

>>24It’s the episode of chilled Chinese noodles from Volume 8, so it’s from 1986.

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:22Yeahx6

>>45If it’s ramen from this era, then it’s definitely bad enough to be called this junk.

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:00

It can be tiresome when the trend tends to favor thicker and more chewy textures.Does that mean that my grandmother’s udon is better than the udon made by a sumo wrestler?

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:02

They are using good wheat and researching noodle-making, so they are probably evolving at a level that amateurs wouldn’t notice.
Even if the noodles are subpar, you wouldn’t be picky if it’s a weapon.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:03

Noodles are seriously completely different now compared to the past.
If I brought regular noodles back to that time, it would be a revolutionary level of shock.

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:04Yeahx1

The reality is that there have been times when using too much food additive caused a tingling sensation on the tongue.

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:07Yeahx3

>>27Since it has become clear that Umami, when it exceeds a certain threshold, converts into a bitter and harsh sensation due to excess signals in the brain, it is not a lie.

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:05Yeahx3

Isn’t it simply bad to use too much chemical seasoning in terms of flavor?

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:10Yeahx3

>>28Putting in too much of anything is not good…

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:05

Recently, old-fashioned hand-kneaded thin noodles are becoming trendy again, which is interesting…

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:05

In the past, there were places that were heavily mixed in to cover it up…

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:06

By the way, if you add too much umami, it can exceed capacity and the tongue might perceive it as bitterness.

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:06Yeahx8

Well, not just ramen, but most food is tastier now.

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:07

It may not be because of “Oishinbo,” but the flavor of ramen itself has changed quite a bit.

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:07

Not just the delicious places, but there are also some that are celebrated just for being a neighborhood Chinese restaurant, and I don’t think there are many people who really care about things like chemical seasonings.

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:09

>>34Over there, it also has meanings related to the retro boom and soul food…

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:09

It’s something similar to sweetness or saltiness, so it’s only natural that if you consume too much, it will result in a strange taste, rather than whether it’s harmful or not…

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:09

You can try a mountain of scientific seasoning by yourself…

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:10

If the oil and spices are added and it’s hot, then you probably don’t need to worry about the taste of the noodles.

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:11

>>40Actually, when I eat places like Hidakaya that I’m not particularly attached to, I find it unsatisfying.

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:13Yeahx1

>>43Hidakaya is like, “This is this.”
It’s cheap.

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:12

Ramen that I was particular about has been coming out since the early 90s.
I went past Kiraku and Genkotsu Ramen in Shibuya.

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:13

I like domestically produced wheat noodles because they have a mild flavor but are easy to eat without any strong taste.

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:13

No matter how good the soup or ingredients are, if the noodles aren’t delicious, it brings down the mood.

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:14

It’s a recent story, but when I read “Kenkara Ramen,” which started serialization in 1995, I was surprised to find that tonkotsu ramen was still considered a relatively new thing nationwide.

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:23

>>50It’s great to be able to feel the atmosphere of that time, isn’t it?
Ultimately, it returns to soy sauce as well.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:15Yeahx7

I can say this because of the context, but I dislike people who only go against the grain of “Oishinbo” and say that adding Ajinomoto makes it delicious no matter how much you add.
Balance is important, right?

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:17

>>51The thread is only made to diss Oishinbo.

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:16Yeahx1

When it comes to high-quality somen, the taste really is on another level.
I can’t go back to being cheap anymore.

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:16

I’ve recently started boiling soba, but it’s quite difficult.
Boiling it deliciously and eating it is tough.

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:17

In other words, ramen is more of a soup dish than a noodle dish…?

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:33

>>54The amount is too much and it’s too salty for a soup dish.

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:19

I tried a ramen shop near a local Chinese restaurant for the first time and ended up getting a dud after a long time.
It looks like the instant noodles I bought at the supermarket just came out as is.

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:19

Roughly speaking, Oishinbo 40 years ago, the ramen fight 30 years ago, and Ramen Hakkenden 20 years ago…

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:20Yeahx3

1995 was 30 years ago, so that’s definitely a long time ago.
Well, it’s been a long time in one person’s life, but was tonkotsu ramen really that young in history?
Well, ramen itself is historically quite young, but…

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:23

>>58Tonkotsu ramen appeared in large numbers in Tokyo during the late 1990s ramen boom, but…
It wasn’t until after 2000 that it spread to rural areas, so the speed at which information and trends spread back then was slow.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:20

I want to try the ramen at the soba shop.
Because I live in an area with many famous soba restaurants, there aren’t any unusual items available.

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:20

I want them to stop adding coloring agents to commercially available noodles.
There’s nothing like that in udon or soba.

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:20Yeahx1

Isn’t it safe to say that things have worsened compared to the thread image, now that Jiro is trending?

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:21Yeahx2

Old-fashioned ramen used to be cheap and not very tasty, right?
When I come across a ramen shop that looks like a fossil, it can be so bad that it gives me a headache…

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:22

If you add too much Ajinomoto, it tastes bad, but that’s something that Westerners came up with to diss Chinese cuisine in the first place.

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:22

After eating ramen at an old Chinese restaurant inside a company building, the smell of the noodles, the thin taste of the soup, and the dryness of the char siu were so bad that I couldn’t eat it…
I think being left behind by the times is something like that, but if you’re used to it, you probably see it as a unique flavor that can only be experienced there.

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:22

I’ve seen someone who disparages Oishinbo praising Ramen Hage.
I said that your lack of seriousness is on the same level, and they went crazy.

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:23

>>66Both are just being dissed for being foolish.

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:23

>>66In the first place, traditional ramen is really bad, as was shown in the Discovery series.

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:25Yeahx4

>>73That’s just pointing to the era of the Showa 2-30s, you know…

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:29

>>78It doesn’t really matter, but in Ozu Yasujirō’s films after the war.
A man who has fallen from being a teacher to running a ramen shop appears.
Aji-no-Moto cans keep appearing everywhere.
The reputation for the taste is bad, so I guess they were using too much MSG.

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:22Yeahx1

The trendy high-spec type is the same theory, right? Chilled Chinese noodles…

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:23

I have memories of the sound of the charmer when I was a kid, but it seems that ramen food trucks are still not extinct even now.

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:24

I think there were probably few ramen specialty shops in the past.
The Chinese noodles at Chinese restaurants have a flavor that is the same base as other dishes, so they are quite different from what we have now.

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:25

There was a place that recreated traditional ramen, so I ate it a few years ago.
That’s right! This is it, this is the flavor! I remembered, there’s no doubt this is the taste! It’s seriously so disgusting!

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:25

I wonder why even famous restaurants have a similar feel when it comes to light and refreshing types.
I don’t know if it’s because of cost issues or what, but they can only use similar ingredients.

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:27

>>77Isn’t it that the condition of “having a simple and refreshing flavor of ramen” is what’s limiting the options?
If you deviate from that, you will end up betraying the expectations of the customers who seek you out.

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:30

>>77Even if we can reproduce trendy flavors and add a twist or two to them,
There aren’t many chefs who can create flavors from scratch.

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:39

>>77At that level, Jiro and Iekei are just about the same, right?
The lighter type is still better because it has some soy sauce and salt.

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:26

The reverse trend of Oishinbo also became popular, or rather, in the sequel to Mr. Ajikko.
Even if they say free-range chickens are the best, everyone would probably die off right after eating them.
There was also a story that was ironic around that area.

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:32

>>79If it’s a sequel, that’s probably the fallacy said by the owner of a restaurant that’s cutting costs on ingredients and lowering quality…

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:28Yeahx4

As a result of repeatedly satirizing works like “Oishinbo,” there are creators like Fujie Michihiko whose works emit an even stronger unpleasant smell than “Oishinbo” itself.

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:29

In a few years, people will say how we used to eat such pig food like this ramen.

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:31

>>82It’s being called Jiro-style from the beginning, yet it’s still popular.
I might revert to thinking that ramen is a somewhat vulgar food.

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:30Yeahx3

But I think even if Jiro were around in this era, he would still be a subject of ridicule in “Oishinbo.”

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:31

YouTube videos are running out of ideas, and while they aren’t bad, it feels like there’s no reason to praise them so highly.

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:33Yeahx1

Jiro seems to be at a point where he’s eating food that feels like top-quality pig feed.
Jiro goes to experience the feelings of Chihiro’s parents.

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:35Yeahx1

They’re knocking on the flavor enhancer again…

121: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:46

>>91Bringing up a topic = getting criticized or not bringing it up = not getting criticized, so it’s a binary choice…

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:37

I wonder what would happen if Curry wrote this story after eating the current ramen.

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:40

>>92Maybe I’m too old and I can’t accept the tastes of recent times anymore.

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:37

Yamaoka who is not anti-chemical seasonings is not Yamaoka at all.

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:38

It might be an exaggeration to say it’s vulgar, but the one that has the strongest craving in the Ramen Hage manga is the tonjiru ramen, so it seems that not many people expect ramen to be sophisticated.

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:40

>>94The pork miso soup ramen is relatively recent, I suppose.

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:41Yeahx1

>>94I want to eat ginger pork ramen too.
I guess that’s why I can have that kind of impression, because I’m confident that I can somewhat imagine the taste and it can’t possibly be bad.

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:44

>>101The new wave genre honestly has a lot of things that are hard to understand just by looking at them.

124: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:47

>>94After all, it’s like the bald guy saying that the ginger pork ramen was the best, considering he has created many unique ramens in the episode about ginger pork ramen.

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:39

Japanese wheat has historically had poor quality due to the local conditions, making it difficult to compete on taste.

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:40

Was rice during the Edo period not consumed that much outside of Edo, where it was gathered from all over the country?

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:42

>>97It depends on the region.
It was in Kanazawa or somewhere in the Hokuriku region, during the busiest time of rice planting, that we cooked rice.
I’ve heard that it’s been recorded in literature that people actively ate in order to keep up with the amount of work.

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:40

It’s not that I dislike vulgarity in things like gourmet food, but I dislike shallow trends.

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:41

If the noodles aren’t good, then it’s pointless to have kombu water dipping noodles.

134: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:52

>>102Even if the noodles are good, the sliminess is too unpleasant to eat.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:42

Chemical seasoning and no-added chemical seasoning.
Rather than a substitute, the deliciousness of ramen takes on a different vector.
I think it’s a finding that has become established over the last 20 years.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:42

I think the homemade noodle boom is strongly influenced by a counter to opinions like the one in the image.

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:42

Don’t worry about “Oishinbo,” it’s just full of lies.

133: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:52Yeahx2

>>105That’s just too much prejudice in its own way.
The theory that was considered correct at that time has become mistaken as research has progressed.
It’s not that they are lying, but rather that there are biased parts influenced by the author’s thoughts.

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:43

Even in “Ramen Discovery,” there’s a lot of talk about the soup, while the noodles are somewhat neglected.
It’s a strange thing, even though it’s a noodle dish.

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:44

>>107There is a fixed idea that only amateurs are particular about noodles!

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:44Yeahx2

>>108Is there…?

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:45

>>111So why is there so little talk about the noodles themselves…?

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:44

>>107If we’re talking about room for improvement or variations, I think the soup is going to be the main focus.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:45

Even though it’s “Ramen” in the Discovery Edition, how is it that the evolution of noodles is being neglected?
There was a story like that, wasn’t there?

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:45

I’m not saying that I haven’t touched on ingredients or water content with the noodles.
Speaking of ramen, it’s all about the soup.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:45

Watching cooking videos that use noodle-making machines makes homemade noodles seem like a high hurdle.

128: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:49

>>115Homemade noodles require a considerable initial investment, so new ramen shops are reluctant to do it.
Therefore, the noodles are bought from the noodle factory, and the differentiation will be based on the soup.
Because it was taken for granted, the conversation gradually shifted, and it became common knowledge that ramen’s main attraction is the soup!
It’s fine if ramen or noodles are the main feature, you know.

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:45Yeahx1

They say it’s a refined style, but in essence, it’s just a modern upgrade of the traditional soy sauce ramen, and because it’s simple, the composition of ingredients inevitably tends to be similar.

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:46

There are indeed ramen enthusiasts who are involved in making noodles themselves.

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:46

It’s not that the common sense and knowledge from 40 years ago is wrong, but rather that, along with the times, there has been an increase in various insights about food and cooking.
I think I’ve just started to notice the misunderstandings and mistakes.

123: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:47Yeahx1

Even if you say it with poop attached…

125: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:48Yeahx2

Putting in too much is not good, that’s the nuance.
From the perspective of properly utilizing modern chemical seasonings, it would be even more out of the question…

126: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:48

When I ate at Ikyo in Jimbocho, I could no longer believe in the theory of the old Chinese soba being mediocre.

129: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:49

It seems that the tingling sensation often attributed to the flavor enhancer in Chinese cuisine was actually due to the spiciness of Sichuan pepper, so the misunderstanding originated from the outset.
Indeed, the sounds are similar, but…

130: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:50Yeahx1

Rather, it would be strange if the noodles weren’t the main feature in dipping noodles.

131: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:51

>>130So, I guess the trend of emphasizing kombu water and noodles has finally started to become popular, albeit belatedly.

132: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:51

Oshon used to be a cheap powder, but with Jiro’s appearance, it has become a bit branded, which is interesting.

135: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:52

It seems that in Ajihei they were particular about the noodles in the Hokkaido ramen battle…
There was someone who was working on something, right?

136: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:52

While “Hakken-den” can cut through the eras, it is unique to regional-specific ramen and similar dishes.
I felt a kind of atmosphere where it was difficult to criticize customs just because they are established and cherished, making it unavoidable to be considerate.

141: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:55

>>136I think there are many opinions that while Hakata tonkotsu and Takeoka style may be lacking at a national level, they are still beloved and deeply rooted in their local communities.

145: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:56

>>136Food culture is not something that can simply be rejected just because it is old…

137: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:53

By “coloring agents,” they mean things like gardenia, right?

138: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:53

Even though Ramen Hage said he changed his ways midway, when I think about how he made fun of the delicious taste at first with a tingling tongue…

139: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:53

One of the great things about manga is that you can draw freely without any basis.
Complaining about fantasy is the crazy thing to do.

140: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:54

The ramen bald comic is also extremely biased in its critique based on new wave supremacy.

142: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:55

It seems that the Ramen Bald is saying that the theory has become outdated in the sequel or something like that.

146: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:57

>>142In the past, there were concerns about chemical seasonings, but now that safety guarantees have been established, we say we’ll use them if necessary for flavor, and we actually serve ramen that contains them.

143: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:55

All of the refined, Jiro-style, and family-style ramen are too oily, and I’ve started to feel that places like Hidaka-ya and Ousho are just fine for ramen now.

144: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:55Yeahx2

What corresponds to the hatred towards chemical seasonings in the later stages of Oishinbo is
In Serizawa, it would probably be mildly warm dipping noodles.

149: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:59

>>144Maybe just the later period…

154: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:02

>>149The beginning is fine, but putting in too much… there are a few episodes here and there.
The reason it accelerated immediately is just that.

147: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:58

“Seeing people eat ramen captures the darkness of Japanese society, and that’s what ‘Oishinbo’ is about.”

148: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)13:59Yeahx2

>>147If it’s about dark passion, that was just Kurita suddenly starting to use an exaggerated, chuunibyou-style expression.
When considering the context, it’s not really that negative.

150: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:00

It’s strange for people who read this and start saying things like “chemical seasonings are bad for your body,” so there’s no problem at all.

151: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:00

Isn’t it impossible to make Chinese noodles without kansui?

152: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:01

Even after the start of the Reiwa era, it seems there were customers still eating ramen even in the midst of a fire.
It feels like I can no longer point out Kurita’s mistakes too much.

155: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:02Yeahx2

>>152Isn’t that just normality bias, rather than food or anything like that?

153: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:01

Soy sauce is bad for your health too, you know.
Many people suffered health issues due to this during the war.

156: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:03

>>153Thanks to that, I was able to avoid going to the battlefield and not die.
Soy sauce is good for the body!

157: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:04

Cold dipping noodles are probably not tasty.
In other words, most warm noodle dishes become unappetizing when they get lukewarm, and dipping noodles are working hard to overcome that.
I haven’t covered it recently, but I might deal with it again.

158: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:05Yeahx1

Tsukemen is actually good because it becomes lukewarm and easier to eat.

161: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:06

>>158There was a story that the lukewarm shops weren’t popular, and when they served things hot, the number of customers increased, but the regulars with sensitive tongues disappeared.
Is there definitely such demand?

159: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:06

When I look at cooking manga from the old days, I realize that the conventional wisdom about cooking has been completely overturned.
Since it’s a major dish, the timing for seasoning the steak and the heat level when cooking are important.

163: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:08

>>159I still don’t know what the correct way to cook steak is.

166: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:10

>>163If you find it delicious and are satisfied, then that’s all that matters, right?
If there is no recognition of what is correct, it might be the case that it hinders enjoyment and makes it less tasty.

160: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:06Yeahx1

In the end, it’s sold on the assumption that it will get somewhat lukewarm.
Isn’t the market and demand already established on top of that?

162: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:07Yeahx2

In other words, if hot dipping noodles are the correct choice, then the type that keeps them heated would be taking over.
If you’re hoping for it to be piping hot, then you can just use other noodles, right?

168: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:11

>>162If you want to eat it piping hot, then you should definitely order ramen…

164: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:08Yeahx1

Even if it’s lukewarm, the delicious composition being refined is probably the current technological innovation of dip ramen.

165: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:10

I researched the stone-grilled ramen volcano that aimed to be hot all the time.
Is there only one store left?

167: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:11

>>165I’m sad because I visited several times when it was in Shimokitazawa…

169: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:12

Everything evolves over time, just like it always has.
Freezing technology
Rice milling technology
Breeding improvement
Aquaculture

170: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:12Yeahx1

>>169Frozen food has come a long way.
Especially noodles

171: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:15

Even when it comes to processes like soaking to remove bitterness, it’s almost unnecessary for the vegetables you can buy at the supermarket.
In the past, rice was rinsed thoroughly, but now it’s just gently touched to remove dirt.

172: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:18

His lukewarm ramen theory seems oddly out of place.
If you’re going to make a profit, you should do this. In the end, regardless of my likes or dislikes, the reality is that there is value in this since it sells, right?
I think it’s because while they sarcastically point out those business-like values and virtues, they tend to overlook that aspect when it comes to dipping noodles.

173: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/01(Sun)14:22

Since both hot and cold food are a thing, it’s only natural that lukewarm food can exist too, right?

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