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Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:15+

Doesn’t Vegeta suddenly seem to lose his intelligence?

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:18

If it’s something like an original anime or a Z movie, then…The sight of you getting all fired up like that was hilarious.

1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:16Yeahx23

You deceived me.

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:16Yeahx17

Vegeta was basically treated poorly in the past, wasn’t he?

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:16

>>2Somehow, even though they power up almost as much as the protagonist, they have a terrible track record…

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:17

>>2Well, I thought I could become Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta in the latest work, but Goku went Super Saiyan 4…

132: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:00

>>2That’s why I feel a sense of discomfort with the way “super” is handled.

134: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:00Yeahx2

>>132Vegeta’s growth or rather, the change in his mindset has been depicted over a long period of time.
Up until now, it feels like I’m more or less on the side of evil.

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:16Yeahx1

If Vegeta had been smart during his time as a punching bag character, he wouldn’t have been a punching bag.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:20

>>4From the main story, if Cell hadn’t quickly dropped his IQ and transformed into his complete form, it would have ended there for him.

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:17

There’s no way we can win!

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:19Yeahx3

It’s ridiculous… that Vegeta has been defeated… and it’s amazing how well it suits him.
Despite losing a lot, the fact that their status hasn’t dropped much is even more amazing.

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:19Yeahx6

Without a doubt, he is a rival of Goku, but he is not treated that well.
I think the really interesting part was that it felt completely equal at that point.
I threw it away at DAIMA, but

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:19

“Smile, Vegeta.”

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:22

>>10Hoo hoo hoo…

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:19

In the original work, he is a troublemaker who stirs up various situations.
In movies, troubles come on their own.
I say something typical of a rival, like “I’m the one who will defeat Kakarot!”

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:20

When they were doing Powerball, I felt like they had an intellectual character.

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:20

At the time of the first movie, Metal Cooler was like, “Whoa!?” That’s why.

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:20

In the original work, he has a face like Goku’s rival, but often their abilities are quite distant.

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:21

After all, it’s unreasonable to think that they could win when they were losing until then with Vegeta’s power coming in!!

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:21Yeahx18

>>16Our power won!!!!!!!!

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:21Yeahx14

>>16Our power has won!!!!!!!!!!

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:21Yeahx1

In the movie, the enemy has to deal with Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Piccolo, and Goku within 90 minutes.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:23

>>17When Goku is active, the performances of the others are quite lackluster…!

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:24Yeahx1

>>17It’s only about 70 minutes long, so it should be shorter.

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:22

Laugh, Vegeta.

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:22Yeahx3

What does a one-second difference mean?

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:22

I think Krillin was treated quite poorly in the movies back in the day.

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:23Yeahx7

>>23Why was it just me… treated like it was an obligation? That was a bit off…

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:23

>>23Krillin thought it was interesting and wanted to see it, so it’s safe.

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:23

I watched Metal Cooler and later discovered that this was the first appearance of Vegeta in the movie, which surprised me a bit.

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:23Yeahx12

It seems that even you, who are usually carefree, have finally understood; everything is as your son said…
I have no lingering feelings for this lowest of stars… Hah.
It was precisely because we understood that a comet would collide that we made use of this planet.
My aim is the Earth in the northern galaxy! Hwah↑~ Hahaha!
My original plan is to migrate to beautiful Earth, the most well-equipped environment in the universe, and establish an empire there as my base.
Therefore, we cannot make Earth the stage for the final battle…
To obtain it without harm, I went so far as to have this palace built and summoned it to this planet…
The sight of you thinking you were something like the king of Planet Vegeta was hilarious.
If we bury you along with this new planet Vegeta, we will have no enemies left!
The northern galaxy, of course, the east as well! The western galaxy too! It can be easily dominated! The empire of me and Broly will… become eternally immortal!

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:24

When I think back on it, the only memory I have of the theatrical version of Vegeta is the one with Broly.

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:25Yeahx1

>>29It’s simply because I haven’t seen the theatrical version.

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:27

>>29There’s an artistic scene where Metal Cooler gets immediately defeated after showing his tsundere move!

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:24

About 90% of it is due to Cell Saga Vegeta’s fault.

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:26Yeahx5

>>31Basically, it feels like we’re just repeating the treatment of the original.

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:25

Hands off!

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:26

Kakarot is mine!

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:27Yeahx1

>>34Chaaaaaaーーーーーッッッ!!!!!!!

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:26

In the movie, Piccolo is doing similar things each time, but unlike Vegeta, he feels the love from the staff.

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>>36I really loved Mr. Piccolo in anime, so I was cheering for him.

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:27

Don’t get it wrong, Kakarot. I didn’t help you… actually, I haven’t really done much.

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:28

>>38This is something for the trunks.

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:27Yeahx1

I love how Vegeta gets instantly knocked away in the Metal Cooler movie.

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:27

Bingo Uncle

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:30

>>41The uncle who gave up his pride to protect his family is amazing…

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:27

Piccolo has an image of easily defeating the surrounding executives but getting taken down by the big boss.
Perhaps the impression of the Cooler movie is strong.

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:28

It seems like Piccolo is active mainly dealing with weaker opponents.
Vegeta is being used as a stepping stone for the boss.

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:28Yeahx1

Metal Cooler was still up there as one of the top two alongside Goku when facing bosses, so that’s good.
Broly is no good.

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:29

It’s terrible that Broly is just giving up without even fighting after being unsealed…

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:30

>>46It feels like they’re dragging in Vegeta from the final form Frieza battle now.

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:29

The impression is that the movie version of Vegeta makes a strong entrance as a helper but then exits immediately.
Well, aside from Goku and Gohan, it feels like there isn’t much… so Vegeta isn’t the only one who’s unfortunate.

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:30

The guy from Dosukoi showed up only after everyone else was taken out, but he ended up losing normally.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:30

If Goku is around, Gohan doesn’t really get to shine much either.

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:32

>>51Dad! The weak point of that guy is…

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:33

>>58I get it!💢💢💢

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:30

Mr. Piccolo gives the impression of working normally.

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:31

>>52I like the Cooler movie.

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:34

>>56I’m working really hard even with Metal Cooler.

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:45

>>56It’s naturally strong since it’s in a combined state with the nails.

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:31

In “BoJack,” it really only came out as a formality with nothing good about it.

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:32

>>53There was a scene that I recognized incredibly well for just a moment, and it was no good.

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:35

>>57It’s impossible with that body!

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:31

Piccolo has the role of defeating enemy executives, but…
Vegeta had the role of being defeated by the main boss…

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:31Yeahx2

>.jpgYou deceived me.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:32

There’s a storyline about my return because I won’t fight anymore.
Are you going to do it right away?

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:33

Metal Cooler’s Vegeta gets blasted away right after charging in and can’t keep up with the Instant Transmission, but I like the part where he unleashes the Spirit Slash at the end.

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:33

If it’s a movie with Gogeta after the self-destruction in the Buu fight, that would be a good role.
It is how it was handled in the original work up to that point.

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:33

In Ultra Broly, he’s extremely favored due to the recoil.

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:35

>>63The 17th version is also in this category; it’s terrible in GT but a bit overpowered in Super.

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:34

I wanted a movie where Vegeta appears as plain Vegeta before Super Vegeta.

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:35

That’s right, Vegeta has been unfortunate all the way up to Super Broly.

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:36

The Android Saga had no good points except for the ending.

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:36

Piccolo was left with a strong impression after being defeated by Tarble three times in a short period.

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:37

>>70At least Turles’ subordinates should have been allowed to win against Goku’s friends… I was really surprised to see all of them getting beaten up on my first watch.

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:37

I think Gogeta worked hard and had a pretty good position.
It’s just a fusion material, but…

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:37

In this image, doesn’t it seem like the term “theatrical version” isn’t limited to just one work…?

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:38Yeahx9

>>73It seems that even you, who are usually carefree, have finally managed to understand it.

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:37

It was Gohan who did it, but it’s really impressive that he was able to stash the Senzu beans in the belt of his gi.

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:38Yeahx2

The reason I like the Super Series is because they handle Vegeta well.

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:38

In the fierce battle, Vegeta is defeating the enemy executives, so his evaluation is rising a bit.

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:40Yeahx3

I love how Vegeta, who is supposed to protect the civilians from Hildegarn, ends up collapsing and saying he’s too soft…

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:42

What about movies?
Gohan is in trouble → Piccolo comes to the rescue → gets defeated and Vegeta comes to the rescue → gets defeated and Goku shows up, something like that.

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:42

The movie is basically just a decoy except for Goku, but both Trunks and Piccolo have cool moments where they defeat mid-bosses.
Vegeta has been defeating the small androids, but it just doesn’t look impressive…

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:43

>>81It gives the image of coming out all arrogant and then losing…

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:42

Number 17 originally had potential, and both GT and Super picked it up with that in mind, but there was just a difference in how they picked it up.

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:43

Before the Cell fight, Gohan has amazing potential, but he’s just a kid, so he ends up getting beaten up normally, which makes it tough to watch.

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:44

Vegeta’s growth, or rather his change in mindset, is depicted over a quite long period of time.
For a while, it feels like I’m on the side of the allies while still being rather evil.

143: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:03

>>85In Dokkan, Super Saiyan Vegeta is extreme type, while Super Vegeta can be either extreme type or super type.
From now on, only ultra attributes except for Majin Vegeta.

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:44

Because Goku has to do it…

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:44

Movies often have many similar patterns and rehashes of original developments due to unreasonable schedules.
There were many exciting works, so I don’t feel like complaining, but I’m sorry, I want to complain about the way characters who show up for 10 seconds get treated.

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:44Yeahx2

I feel like there is a strong sense that the protagonist has to do something in older works.

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:45Yeahx1

>>88If I don’t do it…

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:46

>>91Let Trunks do it!

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:46Yeahx2

>>93I have to do it…

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:47

>>93Who will do itーーーーーッッッ!!
Dragon Fist~~~~!!!!11111

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:45

>>88There’s not much time, after all…

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:47

>>88In the end, in the movie of Saint Seiya, it’s always Seiya who manages to do something about it.
Moreover, the Golden Armor of Sagittarius comes along, and it often leads to the vibe of launching a golden arrow at the final boss.

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:49

>>100I can’t lose… I’m everyone’s hope… I believe my small universe has completely reached the realm of the gods now.

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:45Yeahx1

Metal Cooler is the worst.
Kakarot! Don’t interfere! What’s with the rush towards the front only to be blown away to the back immediately, Vegeta?

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:47

>>90Because it happens roughly off-screen, even though it’s the first appearance in the movie.

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:46

I think the roles of defeating Bojack’s subordinates should be more distributed, but Gohan’s dominating scene is really cool.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:48

>>94I thought it was really terrible that the sword was delivered after defeating the sword-wielder and the scene was over.

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:46

I laughed a bit when my son stylishly defeated Android 14, while Vegeta clumsily managed to barely defeat Android 15.

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:47

I haven’t done it.
There’s an artistic scene where Metal Cooler gets immediately defeated after his tsundere move!

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:47Yeahx2

I think it’s clearly a great achievement of Cho to have introduced elements of an ensemble drama.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:48

Other than Goku, most characters are pretty much just fodder, but I still feel the difference in how they are treated.

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:49

Aside from Goku, characters like Gohan, Piccolo, and Trunks have properly defeated boss-class enemies in the movies, so there’s no feeling of being underappreciated.

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:49

Whenever I gain power, I get carried away thinking I can’t lose, only to be beaten up by an opponent who has obtained overwhelming strength.
Do not learn at all.
There is no way I would fall for someone like that.

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:49

It’s good that Vegeta has a role, otherwise things would have been a dead end.
Since Mr. Piccolo and others won’t appear in old films after the Bojack movie.

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:50

I quietly love the Broly movie 2… It’s been a while since they’ve gone on an adventure, and Gohan gets to shine a lot.

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:52

>>110Gohan’s power isn’t enough!

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:51

In DB, it’s common for the allies to lose in the executive battles of the movie.
I wonder which work, aside from Dragon Ball, established the flow of each comrade winning in the executive battles of the theatrical version.

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:53

>>111Like Kinnikuman?

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:54

>>111I think it’s around Kinnikuman and Saint Seiya.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:52

It’s amazing that Heroes makes you think it’s full CG, but it’s super interesting… I mean, the quality of the Red Ribbon Base is incredible, and the story about destroying it is also wild.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:53

If I don’t do it… the viewers won’t be satisfied… I have to…!

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:54

>>115Dad is sick! In his heart…!

117: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:54

The Bojack movie was cool with moments like throwing swords while defending and handing over weapons to help Trunks.
But I will leave shortly after that.

120: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:55

It’s just that it’s rare for them to be on the same level; they’ve always been inferior.

121: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:56

I really love the performance of the veteran young Gohan.

122: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:56

Leave the meat and Seiya to me and go ahead, because I will take care of the situation.
The person in charge has to defeat it within a short time frame, or it won’t work out.

124: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:57

It makes me angry, but I acknowledge it because Goku is a genius beyond my own.
Well, in the end, I still won’t give up.

127: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:58Yeahx2

>>124Goku thinks that Vegeta is a genius, while he himself doesn’t consider himself a genius, so he’s quite acknowledging.
In the Cell Saga, he acknowledged that he could faintly see the path to becoming a Super Saiyan, which is why he invited him to the Room of Spirit and Time.

125: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:57

It’s Prince Vegeta of the Saiyans as your opponent! It takes less than a minute to go from here to the rock bed, so it’s clearly made as a gag.

126: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:58

>>123It seems there are some folks who ignore the coolest time-wasting in the universe.

128: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)20:59

In the movie’s ending, it was funny to see Vegeta and Piccolo sitting back to back on an ice floe…

129: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:00

In the Namek Saga, Vegeta is really sharp when he’s in a disadvantageous situation, but his IQ drops suddenly when he finds himself in a favorable situation. However, in the original animated series, he stays dim-witted even when he’s in a pinch, so it seems like the animation production team had that perception.

130: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:00

Haaaaaaaaa↑

131: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:00

Well, Broly would have lost if it weren’t for Vegeta’s power…

133: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:00

The original Vegeta, to begin with…
You could say that my head is still functioning up to Namek.

138: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:02

>>133At the end of the Buu saga, the poor efficiency of Super Saiyan 3 in its natural form was revealed, and when Goku himself was at a loss with no moves left, he came up with the idea of using the Spirit Bomb to revive the Earth…

135: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:01

You can’t stay the same as you were forever.
We now have two children.

136: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:01

I think the gods and gods were indeed a turning point, so I like it.
No, the revival fusion is important too.

137: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:02

What’s terrible about the thread image is that when Paragus first arrived, his stance was “I’m not interested in the revival of the Saiyans, but I do want to fight the legendary Super Saiyan.” However, by the time he arrived at the new Planet Vegeta and met Broly, he had taken on a kingly tone, saying “Cowards need not follow!” and had changed his attitude.
Well, of course, even Paragus would call you carefree!

142: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:03

>>137The sight of you saying you’re going out to conquer is hilarious, haha!

139: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:02

Recently, the cool Vegeta seems somewhat unsatisfying.

140: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:03

It’s cute how Vegeta is all excited and showing off as a Super Saiyan in the Android Saga ♥

141: Japan Otaku Reviews25/05/30(Fri)21:03

I wonder if it was really terrible the whole time in the android saga.
Maybe I was just excited because I became a Super Saiyan.

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