
I’m disappointed in Usopp. I had a little bit of a “oh?” feeling at the beginning two years later… but instead of standing alongside Zoro and Sanji, he has returned to being the worthless weakling he used to be.
Has anything happened since the time I made Sugar faint two years ago?
>>1I crushed weaker opponents at Fishman Island.
But even someone like Nami was able to trample them, so there’s nothing impressive about it.
If I don’t do well, I might end up with characters that only the author likes…
>>2The pop was a sense of balance that the editor did not like.
>>8The editor praised me, saying it would be great if the author explained their plans for future activities.
Pop is the only exception.
I really love it when weak characters, like Pop, grow and become the strongest, but it doesn’t happen very often, does it?You’ve been a genius since long ago!
Pop!
>>5From a perspective standpoint, it’s really true that even if I’m taught, I can’t even properly use Mera, and the maximum firepower of a pretty skilled grandpa is Mera-mī, so at that point, Mera-zōma is truly genius.
>>18From my perspective, when I was struggling or in a pinch, it was always Pop who helped me and stayed by my side…
That’s how it will be.
>>5It’s not a weakling to know the spell “Merazoma” from the start…
>>5There are no longer any brave people who will introduce characters with the premise of a long-term series.
>>5To be honest, the author’s favoritism is so overwhelming that it becomes tough, so I usually don’t do it.
>>136Rather, it’s because I’m second that I don’t mind the pop.
If Usopp became as strong as Zoro, confusion would be stronger than anything else.
The persuasive argument that since you can cast synthesis magic, you can also perform magic decomposition as an application of that.
A weakling from Hadlar’s Demon Army who can presumably cast instant-death Melazoma.
It was a delicate balance between failing and growing, Pop.
I think it would be deeply moving if Usopp were standing side by side with Zoro and Sanji right now.
It didn’t turn out that way, though.
>>11I have a feeling that Zoro, who is aiming to become the world’s greatest swordsman, will become somewhat uncertain about that.
>>24But Zoro is still kind of subtle, right?
A magician who can use Mega Flame from the beginning is definitely not just a worthless weakling.
>>12Zanbato was a magic that was less significant than I had thought.
In the main story, I was moved to see Toki, who was treated as a mere bonus character, grow up wonderfully in Ω.
Usopp didn’t grow much in 2 years, but Pop reached level 51 in just 3 months.
Pop says that editing can kill, so I quickly resolved myself.
It was just right for the readers.
Originally, it might have been planned to stretch it out to about Beat’s kiss.
Well, Kiss was already a top-notch force even before their determination was fully set.
>>16After Teacher Avan passed away and I left the island, there hasn’t been any good place at all…
If only there was an editor who would say to Usopp, “Let’s kill this guy!”…!
In other words, Tomon also got a lot of harsh fan letters from female readers, which is why he got so angry and ended up like that.
As expected.
>>17
It’s not mentioned in the story, but since I received Balan’s blood, it’s not strange at all to have a super power-up.
>>19Bi
Pop is great too, isn’t he?
>>20Isn’t the training period too short to call you a master?
>>22I think I’ve been studying under them for more than two weeks in just a couple of months.
>>31That’s amazing, you’re training twice as much as Dai.
>>33Maaム also had a short period of training under the master.
As for Princess Leona, she has hardly learned from Professor Aban for even a few hours…
>>20Usopp’s master is also quite amazing, you know!
The pop is in good shape, and because Hyunkel showed Gira and drank Baran’s blood.
There are scenes that suggest they may have become stronger!
>>25I felt like saying not to misread this and give birth to a monster.
If the protagonist is really weak, there are plenty of them.
Zenitsu from Demon Slayer also appeared as a pathetic character who quickly runs away.
I awakened and became a strong character.
>>28It’s really frustrating when Zenitsu sleeping is expressed as awakening in games sometimes.
You’re not awake, are you?!
In short, Zenitsu is a drunken fist, so that’s a different category.
In the final phase, Zenitsu was properly awakened…
I think Jounouchi-kun is just one step away from being the strongest.
>>34Indeed, Jonouchi-kun is like Pop.
You’ve practically defeated Marik, so that’s enough, right?
Usopp has been away for 2 years!
Kanchome’s sudden power-up was quite unexpected, but I liked the natural flow of the story where the weak became stronger, and it was a reaction to the complexes they had up until that point.
I feel like that position in One Piece has been replaced by Kobe.
>>40Kobe’s growth is too far off-screen, and while he’s on our side, he’s technically on the enemy side in terms of position, which just feels… kind of uncomfortable.
Can one dislike the sight of someone mustering their tiny courage and standing up while crying?
>>43Well, Usopp in the Mr. 4 battle was cool… I hope he grows…
Usopp always plays an active role in the movies.
>>45Stampede really lived up to expectations!
Do your best in the main story!
Isn’t Usopp not in the pop character category from the start? He’s a regular, but isn’t he positioned more like Badac or Chiu?
Two years ago, Usopp was really active.
It’s strange that Pop was seen as a growing ordinary person, despite having always been a genius without any concern for perspective.
>>49In the final stages, I thought you should stop having such a low self-evaluation.
Basically, it’s the non-glowing mark that’s bad.
>>52The fact that the opponent the comparison is made against is Lord Baan might be significant as well.
>>52Is it like Suguru…?
>>62Suguru’s parents are to blame! There’s no way that can foster self-esteem!
>>49It’s a character that can be seen that way, and that’s exactly why it’s called “Pop.”
I feel that the Pop category and the Usopp category are separate, and that there are more characters categorized under Usopp.
Well, if I have too many trusted friends around, I wonder if I won’t have any opportunities to grow. While shouting “whoa,” if I run away with Nami, Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji will take care of it for me.
>>51I think it’s better to have Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, and 2-3 other members take turns in showcasing their moments, as if we give everyone in the crew a spotlight, it will be too long.
>>55Right now, it’s not functioning at all because there are clearly guests on each island who are overwhelmed by this.
>>58The WCI edition is just right…
Humans are not that impressive compared to demons and dragons, so in that sense, I think they fall into the category of ordinary people.
It was depicted as possessing the highest-level talent among humans.
There are also cases where the protagonist is like Naruto.
No, rather, is it Sakura-chan who fits that description among the Naruto characters?
>>56The protagonist’s situation seems to fit that mold; in fact, recently popular genres like “isekai” where characters are expelled or rise to power seem to have a lot of that.
The early days of hard work will be skipped over.
Not just Usopp, but all weak characters among the One Piece crew are struggling to keep up with the inflation in the story, so their moments to shine in battles tend to disappear.
Since only Nami got Zeus, it’s just a bit better.
I think it’s a relatively common pattern in sports stories if it’s the protagonist.
An amateur awakens their talent and gets better and better.
>>59This guy, unlike Pop, comes through in the early stages, so of course no one tells him to get off the ship.
I think Pop’s self-evaluation is greatly influenced by Hyunkel.
From Pop’s perspective, Hyunkel’s evaluation is extremely high while his own is low.
Well, from Hyunkel’s perspective, Pop’s evaluation is extremely high while his own is low.
It was Mashirito who suggested “Let’s kill them quickly” and when he heard Sanjo Riku’s idea, he indeed found it interesting but advised that he wasn’t sure if readers could wait that long.
>>67It seems so.
I think it would have been bad if Pop hadn’t been active in the fight against Crocodine.
There are too few situations where you can defeat the enemy directly, so if the impression doesn’t shine, I can see why the self-evaluation would die.
If I hadn’t been there, there would have been countless situations where Dai and the others would have been wiped out in a state where the seal didn’t shine at all—there’s no way I could say that, huh?
>>68It’s a state of clearly being told that it doesn’t shine.
Moreover, if it doesn’t shine, my friends will die, my beloved person will die, many will die.
I think normally I would have crumbled under the pressure at that point.
Pop, who worked hard until the end, is incredible!
I mean, aren’t they already doing the “get off the ship” development in the main story?
On top of that, many fans were blown away by their sniping performance… In other words, do more sniping.
>>69It was the same when I first appeared two years later.
You’ve grown a lot… It seems like you’ll be very active from now on…! But you haven’t! This guy keeps repeating that.
I thought that Ichigo was training the hardest in BLEACH, but it’s actually amazing that Renji started as a regular lieutenant and has been able to keep up all the way to the final battle.
The fact that the growth and cowardly traits are still combined in one character is the source of confusion.
>>74You should differentiate between Chopper and others.
Chopper is a coward and a weakling, but he’s still the ship’s doctor, so that’s totally fine.
I mean, we don’t need the ship’s doctor to fight.
“There’s no way a character who’s being questioned for casting a spell like Megaflare as a boy when they first appeared is just a worthless weakling.”
Domon tends to be treated as a weak character, but I have the impression that he was strong from the very beginning…
>>77They charged through as a powerful character from start to finish.
>>77I think Mokuren has grown the most as a character in the Flame of Recca.
I think the one that is the scariest and most incomprehensible, even if it’s not the strongest, is pop.
Next is Hyunkel.
The same author’s Adventure King Beat has the image that the two unconventional characters are too strong and the others are more like support roles.
>>82Right now, girls are the main firepower.
>>82Kiss finds a breakthrough, the others buy time, and Beat delivers the finishing blow! That kind of feeling.
It’s fine because it’s interesting.
Domon is one of the few favored Earth attribute characters that often comes to mind.
Usopp still has a tendency to be cowardly and to run away, which hasn’t really changed, and his inventor aspect is being spoiled, so I feel like he has been relatively weakened.
>>85Pop green doesn’t hold up at all in the new world.
The inventor element is sucked out of Franky and it’s over.
In One Piece, sniping has become something like a dirty trick.
“What else can I do?”
Pop’s Melazoma is a weak spell inferior to my Melazoma.
I can’t believe there was such a difference that they were able to dismantle the Kaiser Phoenix.
Domon is too good at using equipment.
Why does that power-type appearance belong to a skill character?
Domon is not only simply strong, but fundamentally has a strong mentality.
When your mental state is stable, there is a sense of security that exceeds your actual abilities.
It may look like a muscle-head, but isn’t he the one who uses his head the least among the main characters?
“Gambafuraihai’s Uchida or someone like that”
The protagonist, Fujimaki, became the strongest and, with no room for further growth, effectively turned into the main character in the latter half.
Mii-chan, who seems like a skilled and intellectual type, is unexpectedly a muscle head.
>>93If you’re a musclehead, then just keep sucking up the pool water every time.
It feels like all four main characters, namely Gash, Tio, Kancho, and Umagon, belong to that kind of category.
The skills are too weak until the middle of the game.
If Usopp can’t do it in Elbaf, then there’s nothing he can do.
>>96Considering that Zoro didn’t play much of a role in Wano…
If Usopp truly became reliable, I guess Odacchi doesn’t want that because there would be no longer a role for the “Eh~!!” moment.
>>97Nami and Chopper are here, but…
Oda likes to scare people with weird poses with about three people…
Poala is quite an important part; she can keep up with firepower and become a breakthrough in boss battles, so that’s great.
The two additional members are honestly just support staff, so to speak.
Recently, Kagurabachi’s Hakuri has a presence that evokes a lot of pop and kiss.
>>100This guy, despite everything, has some crazy talent, right? That’s the kind of feeling I get…
It seems that Rikuka Domon ranked 6th in the popularity poll at that time, so it’s impressive that he performed so well despite his appearance.
What I understood from reading the thread is that.
One characteristic of a weak character’s awakening is that it is a condition to be told “die” from the outside…
When it comes to other characters of this type who have grown and left a strong impression, Yokoshima definitely comes to mind.
>>106That guy is somehow already the main character for me.
>>112Even though it’s in the title, the appearance of Mikami-san is decreasing…
>>115At the initial stage, the protagonist is Yokoshima with the leading role, Ms. Mikami…
If Usopp is no good, then Sakura is no good either…
>>108Jari Pro?
>>108It’s fine since he was just an enemy and there was some drama.
I wouldn’t say it’s the strongest, but it has become a formidable opponent.
Usopp is technically a combatant, after all…
>>109I’m a pirate, but I don’t fight on a ship, so having a sniper doesn’t mean much.
If it’s okay to include enemies, then as mentioned above, there’s also Kobe.
Pop’s abnormality is overwhelmingly the highest, even in Dai-Dai.
…No, Hyunkel is on the same level too.
Is it okay to include Kouichi in this category?
>>116He’s a reliable guy, but to be honest, his stand isn’t that strong.
Sure!
Is it possible that the Straw Hat crew is just… kind of mediocre?
>>120In other words, Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji are too strong, so the others don’t need to grow.
Got it.
Kill Usopp
They say there isn’t much of it.
I feel like protagonists in kids’ comics usually start as treated as weak fools and follow a growth pattern that leads them to defeat the final boss.
It’s going to clash with the incredibly strong sound-absorbing Van Oger, but if Usopp stays the way he is now, he’s too much of an underdog.
>>125In the Usopp fight, it’s okay because the opponent comes down to Usopp’s level, right?
Whether it’s during sugar or during the kiss.
Pop’s self-evaluation is just too low; he’s a genius and has incredible composure in critical moments.
Usually, well…
I wonder if there will be side stories in the Avan side story until Pop learns the spell Merazoma.
>>129I wonder if they will go that far.
I would be happy if there were.
It feels a bit too redundant.
>>129In that world, regardless of levels or skill, as long as you perform the rituals and have the aptitude, you can acquire it.
It feels like you can shoot if you have enough MP.
In Echoes ACT 3, is there no limit to the number of targets that can be weighed down?
Or, if I could make it as heavy as ACT1 with a similar range, that would be great.
Isn’t the balance adjustment a bit too strict?
Koichi is strong, but when it comes to being the strongest, I have to say no, no, no.
Pop is a character like Usopp.
In terms of positioning, I’m in the second slot like Zoro and the others…
I think Kouichi-kun is among the strongest in terms of personal performance.
The stand’s ability is not the strongest, but…
Having escape characters ready makes it easier to change scenes, which is a bad thing.
For example, if Usopp were to challenge the final battle alongside Luffy, it would just leave me wondering… why?
The glimpses of the time when Sugar’s colors bloom and in movies are there.
Not just Zoro and Sanji.
The other Four Emperors are clearly divided between executives and others, right?
Kiss is a good character, but I just think, “Who is this guy…?” I can’t really feel the urge to cheer for him.
My wife might be closer to pop.
Unlike Beat, who is different due to his bloodline, Kiss is…
It’s naturally crazy.
A man who is highly regarded by his allies but is underestimated by his enemies because he is compared to Dai.
>>143From the enemy’s perspective, it’s understandable to focus solely on pure combat power.
Not many can consider someone’s humanity like Kill and see them as a danger.
>>145In the eyes of the demon army, humans are seen as inferior and weak beings just because they are human…
If Pop hadn’t studied under Master Avan, he would probably have become even more arrogant.
Pop’s combat style concept is so troublesome that the more you understand it from the enemy’s perspective, the more you want to crush it quickly.
Usopp and Nami’s positions haven’t really changed since two years ago.
Chopper was in a stronger position than these two two years ago.
I feel like I will be in the same position as these two in two years.
Robin and Chopper are a scholar and a doctor.
It’s strange to fight.
>>150Low-level character
>>152You’re the captain, right?
>>150Certainly, Robin doesn’t have a strong image two years later.
The second-in-command position in pop has a strong aspect as a tactical role that can also engage in combat.
There are actually fewer partners for this kind of position than I expected.
Similar positions often tend to be the brakes for protagonists who easily rush forward, but Dai is not that kind of character.
Nami really isn’t cut out for combat, yet she fights so well.
>>154The ship’s doctor and the female navigator really don’t need to fight.
Hey, sniper, why are you lined up doing weak jokes?
Franky and Brook joined before Sabaody.
Two years ago, there wasn’t much combat overall, but two years later, they are quite active as a fighting force.
Begirama is incredibly strong.
Mera Zoma is weak.
Why…
Hasn’t it become harder to stand out in combat since the time when I was also working as a shipbuilder…?
The son of a general weapon shop, treated as a fictional character in later generations.
>>160This guy was a genius from the start; he just didn’t have enough courage!
Yokoshima’s combat power has surpassed that of the main characters; he directly fought and won against Mikami-san.
If the definition of “weak” continues to inflate, then Crocodine will become weak in the context of being able to keep up with the battle.
>>163That is actually so.
Pop is too mutated and scary.
Even though the world is connected to the power of magic through intelligence, with the Gira system being strong and arriving earlier than the original, it’s insane that you can use Melazoma from the moment you join.
Yokoshima, who obtained Monju through training, and Ms. Mikami, whose stick turned into a whip.
I wonder if there was a little more to Ms. Beauty.
I believe the issues with Melazoma were largely due to facing a majority of opponents, and in the latter half, the situation meant that spells other than Medroa were only effective as a form of deterrence.
Let’s do it this way.
Everyone who takes the first hit from Burn-sama is weak!
Medoroa probably won’t deal much damage even with Doruora, but it’s so amazing that it can make Burn sweat.
What is this magic?
Is Medoroa your master’s original creation?
I should be reading the spin-off of the Avan, but I forgot about that part.
>>171I was taught by my mentor that combining fire and ice would lead to a terrible outcome, but I turned that into a spell and named it Medoroa, so it’s completely original.
What do you think about a position like Yahiko from Rurouni Kenshin?
>>172I think you should take it seriously because it lacks persuasiveness.
I think the author didn’t practice kendo, but the bamboo sword is really designed so that it doesn’t hurt.
>>181It is said that in the past, bamboo swords were provided without rounding the edges so that users could make adjustments themselves, which meant that if left as is, they could cause serious injuries.
I think it’s probably good to have consistent worries but not make the same mistakes.
I think crocodiles may ultimately not be understood, but their toughness is unparalleled among peers, so I believe there is a way to utilize them…
Mr. Hyunkel is different from toughness, so back off.
That guy can withstand Gigabreak.
Crocodiles are the epitome of front-line jobs.
In terms of gameplay, it’s like an instant death technique, so it doesn’t seem very reliable; also, if the boss doesn’t reflect, then it wouldn’t work and the game wouldn’t be playable.
I think it’s terrible that Pop Behoima is an upgraded version of the princess.
In the past, even a bamboo sword could easily kill when compared to a wooden sword, so I wonder if it could at least be made so that it doesn’t kill.
I wonder if Poron from Loto’s story suddenly got stronger; that really caught my attention.
To be honest, I think there were quite a few risky aspects in the author’s favoritism towards pop.
I feel like if I did a demon world arc, it would be criticized for being the author’s favorite character.
>>185The epilogue is also a journey while having a harem…
Even if you focus on small fries, you can still clear them out quickly to open the path, or snipe the big boss to create openings…
The story about the editor trying to kill Pop, like Killburn, is famous, but…
The person who proposed the pop growth plan and gave the go-ahead isn’t famous, right?
What I actually said was that if you’re going to keep them alive without any particular role as they are now, then you should let them go.
Just saying “just kill” changes the meaning 180 degrees, doesn’t it?