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[Shonen Jump] I’m surprised that there are sometimes these kinds of things in commercial manga.

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Is there fire and flame…?

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This is Sam8.

When you give a different meaning to existing words like “keychain,” it becomes confusing.

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I feel like it would unexpectedly turn out like this even if someone named Anonymous-chan drew it.

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It feels like I’m just warming a dead egg…

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I can already fully replay it in my mind, so it’s a problem.

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The delivery of the lines is too good.

Masuda Kousuke is a genius.

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As expected, there can’t be a manga where the protagonist is possessed by delusions and goes around the library.

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I don’t understand the gist.

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It’s terrible… the story?

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It’s strange to say that this is even easier to understand than Sam8.

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The ability to summarize is amazing.

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You were drawing seven pairs of fantasy masters and guardian spirits in a spread, huh?

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I wasn’t a sword master…

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In games, I would like to see examples where seemingly different combinations like jewels and swords somehow come together to be incredibly strong.

I don’t want to read it in a manga.

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Having a fixed combination without the possibility of combos really shows a lack of sense, Yume no Kakera-sensei.

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It’s troublesome that it seems interesting depending on how you roll it.

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The second episode, which I had to forcefully finish, is likely to be well-received.

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I feel like YAIBA was like this.

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People often say this image is Sam 8 or something.

I think Yume no Kakera-sensei has a more organized setting.

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The feeling of the eyes slipping over the top left page is amazing.

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Why was FSS accepted by the public?

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When Mr. Yumeno Kakeru gets serious, he can finish any manga in just one chapter.

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The Dream Sword Meteor has a fire attribute, right?

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I think the author setting in One Piece is also loved.

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There are examples like World Trigger and The Promised Neverland, which became big hits despite being similar.

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The principal is scary.

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There is a way to present it that is more important than the setting itself.

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But this is easy to read…

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Fantasy

Fantasy

It’s noisy, isn’t it?

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D.Gray-man is also of this type, but it’s really popular.

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HUNTER×HUNTER has such an overly detailed setting that it just keeps pouring out, and yet that’s what makes it popular, right?

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World Trigger uses the entire first episode to cover what would be the explanation for the first page in the thread image.

In addition, it’s a masterpiece that encompasses everything, including the protagonist being someone who fights and the fact that this also becomes the catalyst for the protagonist to interact with people from another world.

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FSS hasn’t just been dumping settings since the first episode!

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There’s also a big traffic jam of settings in Conan.

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I felt this again after a long time with Tsukihime that’s currently in the magazine.

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If we take an example from Hunter x Hunter, this is at a level where they are discussing the six types of Nen abilities, the four major principles, and the Water Divination technique all in the first episode.

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As mentioned above, it is stressful when words with meaning are replaced by jargon.

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A long-running series is more like illegal construction than a traffic jam.

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It’s terrible, but it’s scary that there are actually quite a few things in reality that, even at this level, are still somewhat understandable.

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If you have a long-running series, the settings will naturally accumulate and become extensive over time.

The downside of things like the thread image and Sam8 is that they suddenly throw the settings that exist only in the author’s mind at us before the story has even begun.

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What was the protagonist’s fantasy again? It’s too sharp.

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If everything shifts to delusion from here, it will become like AURA…

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FATE and FGO are popular among those who love settings.

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It’s noisy, isn’t it… So this was the original source…

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Editing should be done before posting, do your job.

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In simple terms, there are definitely ones that are much more roundabout and complex than the thread image.

But those guys are good at explaining, so they get a reaction.

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Gundam is somewhat like this too.

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Hunters didn’t start off with a lot of text like it does now from the first episode.

If they had been doing that from the first episode, I think it would have been treated like Sam8.

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Even in Fate, they don’t explain the Holy Grail War settings or anything before Shirou summons Saber!

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I’m starting to get interested in Sam 8 after being told that much.

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This is about cramming too much setting and not using that setting effectively in the story.

Hunter and World Trigger are properly utilizing their settings, so they are completely different, right?

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When the protagonist wakes up after being called by a girl, they are told that they are a sword in another world, and it’s expected that they defeat monsters with that sword, right?

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Once the serialization is on track, is it allowed to just spew out text in the manga?

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Jump consistently upholds the principle of prioritizing surveys, and it’s impressive.

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It’s a discussion about not cramming all the settings into one story, so why bring up examples like Hunter, Wotakoi, or Neverland?

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At the moment when readers are curious about “What’s going on with this?”, the necessary information is suddenly poured in all at once.

In the first place, having information about a part that you don’t even have any interest in being indiscriminately shared can really change the impression of the receiver…

So at least let the information be leaked after the second episode.

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It’s an edit like Chino-chan’s.

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The editing that passed this name is strange.

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Things like Gundam and FSS are also influenced by the flow of the times.

It must be based on the SF boom and the works of Yoshiyuki Takani.

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It was truly amazing that Samurai 8 genuinely surpassed this.

The astonishing tackiness of key holders with keys completely surpasses Mr. Yumeno.

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Even though there are a lot of sentences, I can read them smoothly…

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https://zebrack-comic.shueisha.co.jp/title/3901/volume/17489/viewer?target=trial

Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaruden is available for free, so you can read it.

You can understand the reason for the names mentioned in this thread on the first page.

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I thought about Gundam in SEED, and there are definitely stories that just explain the current situation endlessly.

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It’s a novel, but Legend of the Galactic Heroes is close to this.

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Even works with detailed settings often start with a straightforward story without revealing the setting at first.

As the full scope of the world view becomes clear later on, explanations will be provided.

I think it’s important to make readers want to hear the explanation first.

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At the time of the serialization of Samu 8, there is also a legend that a booklet with the first chapter was included with every new volume of Jump.

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Samurai 8 has a good setting, but I just can’t really like the main character…

I at least wanted the story to be conventional.

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There is also a demand for novels that are like setting collections…

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“There’s something! But is there really nothing…? And finally, who is this mysterious person——?”

Even an episode like that can be exciting depending on how it’s presented.

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Light novels still have this kind of image even now.

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“World Trigger was really good at showcasing its settings.”

It’s like the ability of the trigger that would usually take a long explanation is being handled very naturally in the flow of the black trigger capture battle.

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The specialized terms at the beginning of the first episode of World Trigger are mainly Neighbor and Border, and the story simply states that there is an organization that hunts monsters that come from another world, so it’s quite simple.

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Every time I compare the thread image with Sam 8, I realize that farmed ones just can’t compete with the wild ones…

The thread images are definitely made by people who can write properly, so their Japanese proficiency is so high that I can read it fluently…

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After this, it seems that Professor Yumeno is quite accurate.

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The setting itself is actually not that far off.

Actually, it’s still incomplete… gradually powering up is quite a classic pattern.

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In “Wartoll,” the miniature battle currently being serialized is quite a bit of a drag, isn’t it?

Even if you remember it properly, you probably won’t pick it up later.

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This reminded me a bit of the demonic migration.

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But it’s amazing how Mr. Yumeno can wrap this up in the second episode.

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When the jewels and the sword are gathered, they will exhibit their maximum power.

Even when fused with the guardian spirit, do not demonstrate your maximum power.

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The exchange from the thread, “This is my specialty fantasy, you know!?” “Is that so… I thought you were good at cancellations.” “I’m not good at that!” is just hilarious.

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It is extremely rare for a higher-tier version of the protagonist’s initial attributes to be mixed in.

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In the novel, the world-building of the Starry Sky Emblem is truly incredible.

The characters are strong, and the storyline is solid, so…

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It feels like I’m warming up dead eggs, which is just too cruel.

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The format of a school story involving abilities (including magical powers other than superpowers) is commendable because it allows for the setting to be casually introduced at any timing through classes.

Therefore, battle-type school settings are very easy to develop and are strong in light novels.

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The setting of Sam8’s samurai, princess, and keychain is slowly resembling the sword, spirit, and jewels in the thread image…

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If there are four elements: sword, gem, spirit, and user, for the seven attributes.

It’s unreasonable to condense it all into one page, but it’s common for the story to expand that much, and there are also those characters that end up not appearing at all.

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It’s actually Teacher Yumeno who’s making the witty comment.

It’s a strange situation that the teacher is the one who drew the manga that led to that situation in the first place.

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Sam 8 had a rank name for the keychain that was kind of lame again.

Yokozuna and komusubi.

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Page 1 of Sum 8

Our duty as samurai is to continue protecting this galaxy. That is… the “righteousness” of a samurai. Stopping him is my duty, and that is my “righteousness.” In the meantime, [Episode 1: The First Key] seek the “Box of Pandora.” It is a box in which the “War God,” “Fudo Myoo,” inscribed and sealed countless methods of the planet. And also seek the one who can open that box, the “Box of Mahu.” That is your duty. If this continues, you will no longer be a samurai but will become trapped… and in the light alone, master, such storage has the same meaning, and there must be a light that is trapped.

Page 1 of Sum 8

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Sam 8 was also chirping away in the first episode.

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If you have that many complaints about the editing, just let me know before you accept the manuscript.

But the crappy manga that’s out there means that the editors let it go without making these kinds of comments…

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I understand that having the sword and the jewel separated would definitely be difficult to utilize in a manga context.

It seems like there will only be an event where I think I’ve gotten the sword, but then there’s no gem or the gem gets stolen.

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Is it necessary to divide them into gems and swords?

Isn’t it smarter to give the protagonist’s soul the appropriate traits rather than scattering gems and swords throughout the world?

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Actually, there’s an eighth dark sword, and you’ll be surprised when it comes out!

The Dream Fragment Teacher seems to think that, but readers are likely to guess it early on.

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Warming a dead egg is too sharp.

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This manga is really picky, isn’t it?

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I think the worst part of Sam8 is that it keeps talking about vague and ambiguous things rather than presenting a list of settings.

It would be better if everything was just lined up from the beginning.

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Well, the real problem with Sam 8 isn’t just the overwhelming disclosure of settings, but rather that the story is simply not interesting enough…

It’s seriously not funny at all, it’s amazing, really amazing.

There are no scenes where I can think that Yachimaru is cool at all.

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There are quite a few works where only the first half of the first page is done and matched.

Doing the entire second half on one page is too reckless…

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I just read episode 1 of Sam 8, but it’s seriously hard to get through…

Moreover, on top of the additional explanation that the samurai is a cyborg, the protagonist’s awakening is left for the next time—this is seriously just like Final Fantasy…

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I’ve never seen the final chapter in the second episode, though.

New chapter begins! → I know the next issue is the final episode.

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Sword Master Yamato: Fantasy – Canceled

Decide! Shining Shot: Soccer – Canceled

Love Triangle: Romantic Comedy Fan Book and Game Adaptation Long-Term Serialization

Final Fantasy: Fantasy – Episode 2 Cancelled

Demon Vampire: Cancelled after 2 episodes

Isekai K-On Club: Animated, long serialization for 3 years, surveys are stable.

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In other words, it means that all of Yumeno’s works that are properly concluded are masterpieces.

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YAIBA has only two swords, right!

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If only the design of Sam8 was cool in a classic way, it would still be…

But in that area, it seems that Kage-sama is relatively not good at it.

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“Search for the box… and then, I see…”

Right after that, I’m told to look for the key that I also need to open it, so I can’t help but laugh, Sam 8.

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The difference between fire and flame is the same in Demon Slayer as well…

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It’s common to end with “The first part is complete” and then cancel.

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Even if you say there are other manga with such complicated settings, it doesn’t mean anything.

If it’s not like this or Sam8, which hit big with extensive explanations from the very beginning of the first episode.

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When I hear the behind-the-scenes story of NARUTO, it seems that it’s not that Kishimoto-sensei has changed, but rather that he became a great author and presented it uncensored as it is, which is Samu Hachi…

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A type of writer whose favorite things don’t get accepted…

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If my fantasy, which I have nurtured since I was a child, is described as warming a dead egg, I might start to cry and sob.

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With a hit rate of 33%, if the successful works have also become sub-media, then those in the know are aware.

It seems that Master Yumeno is at the level of a mid-career current manga artist…

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If we’re limiting it to episode 1 of Sam 8, it really comes down to cutting out everything that’s not about the main character.

There’s no need to talk about that setting now, it’s too much.

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I have the impression that there are quite a few cases where a new chapter opens in a manga at the end and then it gets canceled.

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This situation is so disappointing, and the claim that it’s supposed to be a strong point doesn’t excite me at all. It takes an entire episode without entering the fantasy world, the art style is lackluster, and it’s just too terrible.

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Sam8 involves samurai, Pandora’s box, keys and keychains, the Holy Trinity, and more.

The naming of the terms is so jumbled that it’s incredibly hard to remember.

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The story of Sam Hachi is really exhausting to read because the setup is confusing, and the dialogue, scene composition, and timeline are hard to follow.

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If you can realize that your fantasies are different from recent trends, you’ll have the opportunity to create new ones.

It seems like the recent works are just about picking what you like and enjoying that…

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YAIBA has a mechanism where a sword has multiple gems that can be swapped out to change its performance, making it truly interesting.

The picture in the thread has a sense of “so what” even though there are individual special jewels for each sword.

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But if you hold back, the cancellation is decided, and you might get back just a little of what was lost when the story accelerates towards the end.

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Honestly, techniques like Insect Jamming and Razor Circus, as well as the latter half of NARUTO, were quite leaking out.

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I’m not excited!

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First, episode 1 focuses on building recognition and affection for the characters.

If it is absolutely necessary to have a unique worldview to depict that,

I think it’s good to present only the necessary fragments for the first episode in a way that’s easy to understand…

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