>>1

Well, to be honest, I have a pretty good idea of who did it…

Why is Mu silent?

It should be fine at the door.

>>9

I think he is unfit as a negotiator where trust is important because he’s known to be deceitful in other areas.

>>23

Considering the harmony of the second generation faction, if the first generation is Senju, then it’s possible for the next generation to be Uchiha.

>>35

*However, this only applies to those who can genuinely consider the village’s well-being.*

>>35

The problem is that even within that house, Madara is hated.

What an ugly shadow of my youth.

When you say “Konoha,” it makes me laugh about which mouth you’re using.

I can sense that I’m being greatly ridiculed in a pose with my hand on my awkward waist.

>>17

I guess Hashirama must have bowed his head after this…

Even if it’s clumsy, I can’t win against Madara…

Why is this person so irritated?

The act of smearing poop on the face of a pillar.

What kind of emotion is it to say not to speak the name of Hashira…?

>>26

I have been abandoned even by the same clan…

>>27

So not engaging is the best thing to do.

The Thousand-Handed Hall is…

It’s not just the attitude; it’s even more ridiculous that you’ve already beaten him up once.

I haven’t been reading stone monuments lately, so I simply think that this is what is needed for peace…

>>30

It was too garbage to be good.

>>30

If all the ninjas obey the Leaf Village, will there be peace?

“I’m saying that I have no intention of going to war…”

They’re saying not to mention the name of the pillar, so I think this is probably around the time right before leaving the village.

So, right before running away from home, I was looked at with white eyes even by my own clan, so I think it was a unilateral refusal without the authority to negotiate with other villages.

>>32

Isn’t that just like how Madara recklessly stepped forward and ruined the peace negotiations even though he wasn’t called?

“The fact that they’re letting someone like Hashiramata run wild is just too lenient.”

>>37

Well, that younger brother is dead and has broken down…

If my brother were alive, it definitely wouldn’t have turned out well.

A bitter past of the young Ohnoki.

Even if you say someone has a bad personality, the worst is the kind of bad personality that is sticky and clingy.

>>45

The leaves of this era are too fake.

>>42

It seems like a more troublesome existence than the Tailed Beasts.

The later cruelty can be shrugged off after many years of despair and a decaying spirit.

At this point, it’s already this… you know…

Isn’t it a miracle that this guy was able to hold back from killing Tobirama?

>>47

According to him, he wasn’t confident about winning during his lifetime, so Madara and Obito probably didn’t have as much of a difference in skill as he thought.

>>63

No matter how strong you are, once you’ve been marked, you can’t let your guard down for even a second, due to the nature of the techniques involved.

In a direct confrontation, it doesn’t matter if you can win or not.

>>63

In other words, it surprisingly holds little value as a tool for violence.

Even though I’m going out of my way to greet you and doing all this, my feelings are just like kicking gravel around…

I only slightly like the headband made of leaves.

It’s amazing that only Izuna and Hashirama are viewed positively in the story.

Almost everyone else treats the dead like they’re just showing off.

>>54

They are actually dead people who are bothering the current working generation.

And the ones suffering the most are, of all things, our clan.

If something happens, Madara might act on his own!!? That would be quite a threat, wouldn’t it…

>>55

But isn’t that just a situation where the village itself can’t control its own forces and is therefore not trusted?

Was it that when a discussion was held, there was a gatekeeper in charge of negotiations and that led to this?

>>57

I don’t understand, but it’s certain that originally it was Hashirama who was supposed to form an alliance, and it was Madara who unilaterally broke it.

It is believed that Hashirama and Tobirama made every effort to apologize in various places, which prevented this act of barbarism from leading to war.

>>59

It must have been widely known in other villages and abandoned by all factions.

Obey the power of the leaves! While that style might work temporarily, it will definitely not be sustainable for future generations, so stop it!

If there are only a thousand hands, then it’s just that the thousand hands faction has become stronger, and the system of the village cannot be established.

At that time, by forming an alliance with the Uchiha, which was one of the two major factions, we were finally able to spread the village’s system by gaining the backing of the country, so Madara, who formed a peace with Senju, was necessary.

What comes after that is really hopeless…

Those who talk about at least some ideology (and the peace they aim for in the end) must have been expressing it, right?

In the end, even from his own family’s side, saying “that guy is no good…” is pretty crazy, Madara.

But Madara is the man who forgave me even though I did not die…

>>64

You’re also pretty crazy for choosing to take your own life when faced with that incomprehensible choice…

>>72

“How can you stay silent when your family has been killed? Can you stay silent when your brother is dead? You can’t, so this conversation is over.”

What does it mean that if I die, it concludes with “let’s settle this”?

The other day, I apologize for our Madara.

>>69

I wonder how much I had to bow my head after this…

It’s best for Madara to not speak or act at all while in the village…

>>71

But if that kind of treatment happened, I would definitely say that we are being discriminated against! So it was already a dead end, wasn’t it…

>>71

Isn’t it okay to let them handle education at the level of a Chūnin?

>>88

Maybe they’re trying to spread strange ideas.

Well, the main story’s revived Madara is boosted by the Hashirama cells and the Rinnegan.

Because I’m suppressing the Thousand Hands, Uchiha, and Tailed Beasts, you know?

It’s abnormal that Hashirama possesses the military power to unify the world but chooses not to… Even Madara’s insistence on obedience is a form of leniency.

>>77

Even in the scene of the thread image, I could kill if I wanted to, but they’re letting it go by just complying…

The balance of Hashirama saying “Even if it’s for free…” and Tobirama telling him to be quiet from behind is really great in all directions.

>>78

There’s no room for Madara.

>>78

If all you do is scheme during the gaps between the pillars, and then someone realizes that you’re just sweet-talking them, you will definitely be betrayed.

Some people consider their interests, so the other party can feel a sense of security in a way.

If someone can bring out the Nine Tails and Susanoo if they wanted to, it’s quite absurd to say that they have no value as a tool of violence.

>>79

There is no value in an uncontrollable violent device…

>>84

That’s true, but the response in question is talking about strength, right?

>>97

If they decide to unleash the Nine-Tails and Susanoo, someone who can’t control it and ends up destroying alliances is not only worthless but a significant negative!

>>84

If it reaches the level of surpassing the pillars, then I can somehow turn a blind eye to it, but ultimately, if it’s just a level of violence that can only be resisted by the top of each village and cannot be controlled, then it is truly unnecessary.

If it’s a one-on-one fight, Madara definitely seems strong, but Obito seems like he would use ninja-like methods to kill…

>>80

Madara knows that those who kill in that way will never lose to the despicable ones.

>>86

They probably didn’t attack while they were alive because they couldn’t be sure about it.

If it’s just one person, then dominating through violence might be acceptable, but there are many more people in the village, you know…

Normally, no matter how overwhelming military power is, it’s impossible to dominate the whole world with it…

>>83

In the first place, we created the village to think about the future.

If the system ends when the strong ones die of old age, it serves no purpose at all.

Madara’s ideology itself hasn’t changed from wanting to end the wars of his childhood…

As a result, it probably took around 60 to 80 years to reach a stable condition of minor skirmishes in the countryside, so the positive outcomes are simply due to that result.

Let’s distribute the tailed beasts! Let’s all get along! I think saying that was a bit crazy for that era.

Having two individuals who can somehow manage to deal with even that tailed beast as a side task makes it even scarier.

I think it’s a reckless action since I was supposed to meet Hashirama, but Madara showed up instead.

Since I went crazy, everything in this world up to creating the dream world is just a game! I’m fully embracing it, which makes it even worse.

>>98

My left arm tells a story of too much hassle…

It’s strange to become a thread image while having the idea of creating an academy and a village!

>>99

Was it the Madara plan?

Wasn’t it just a dream between the pillars?

>>99

In the end, nothing has really changed since the Sengoku period; it’s just that the clan has transformed into a village, so it’s understandable to feel hopeless…

From Madara’s perspective, it can only be seen as a betrayal by Hashirama.

The biggest blow was awakening to conspiracy theories after reading the inscription.

Every single word in the thread is problematic, and it’s almost refreshing.

It’s amazing how Madara, despite being seemingly contradictory with his obsession for combat within the idea of peace, is still portrayed as a person who genuinely embodies that complexity when you carefully analyze his inner character.

Obito and Madara are each other’s understanders, aren’t they…

>>109

(I’ll be on guard since he would probably do this…)

I’m strongly cooperating because I fell in love with Hashira’s humanity, but dealing with their stupid means of achieving peace is a hassle.

Someone like Sasuke who doesn’t listen to anyone’s words.

What I wanted to protect in the village was my younger brother.

The area around the formation of the village had a fairly nihilistic mentality.

>>114

Well, if my brother had survived, there’s no doubt that he would have been the cause of the chaos worsening…

>>116

Since there is no eternal support, if we wait too long, we might be completely wiped out in terms of strength…

I think there are significant aspects that have been distorted by war as I reflect on the mindset from when I was a kid, which was more innocent.

The declaration of war-like provocation by Iwagakure, setting up a negotiation, is a perfect play for a terrorist who also muddies the reputation of Konohagakure.

But at least at this time, this guy is on the side of the Leaf…

Well, if you’re not recommended for Hokage, then no one from the clan will follow you.

>>135

I only mentioned that there’s a reason why they can’t bring out their power while alive, but I didn’t actually say whether they can win or not.

>>146

That’s not right.

This time, the heavens are on my side. There’s a reason why you brothers are unable to bring out your power from when you were alive.

Because they are saying that if heaven doesn’t side with them, then it’s unknown.

If you had at least had a family, things might have been different, Madara.

>>121

My daughter and wife were kidnapped by the Raikage…

>>121

He was a chieftain, so he might have had a wife and children…

When Izuna was around, things were fine, so even after Izuna’s death and the creation of the village, nothing changed, and it feels like a hopeless situation due to Hashirama’s change of heart.

That said, it’s a hassle… if I treat it casually, they’ll definitely kill me with their strength, which is even more of a hassle.

Madara, I can’t believe you were able to call yourself a rival… when you see the size difference between Senju Kannon and Susanoo.

>>125

Did you claim that?

I feel like I kept saying that the pillars were amazing.

>>129

That guy’s wood release shadow clone was something I was the only one who could see through (though I didn’t actually see through it), or so I heard.

If we don’t deal with Kuro Zetsu early, Madara won’t be able to do anything.

Well, Madara’s childhood was truly hell as many of his younger brothers kept dying one after another in the war.

On top of that, I think the person likes combat itself, which is why it got tangled up in various contradictions.

But the extremists have deified us.

It’s not that; it’s probably just that our whole group is saying he’s no good, which is too interesting.

>>130

No one followed me…

>>136

Later, when you guys say we were treated poorly and make Madara the flagbearer… I just feel like saying that.

>>144

It’s raw to lift up something you don’t know about, like Madara…

>>144

Even those kinds of people felt a pressure from the real Madara that made them not want to follow him.

>>144

They called the third generation the strongest, but I guess that’s just the younger generation coming in and things fading out.

If you want to do Tobirama, you have to know more about Tobirama than anyone else, and if you want to do Madara, you have to know more about Madara than anyone else.

By the way, why was I in a state like my period at that time?

Did Hashirama really ask to negotiate after Madara’s second proposal was rejected?

>>133

I wonder if they’re acting on their own…

Izuna being a typical battle maniac is Madara’s misfortune.

A sad man who can only be alone because he hates being stood behind.

Ah, I should have just told you to kill my brother.

If my brother hadn’t died, the indulgent Madara towards family would probably work hard for my brother’s sake.

If my brother had died, then this generation has no other path besides the main story route…?

It’s terrifying because we don’t know what the coward will do…

I think Madara’s perspective is correct…

If Izuna had been able to negotiate peace properly, it would have ended more smoothly…

Speaking of which, Izuna is quietly crazy at a Madara level…

>>143

I think things like Izuna are more normal during wartime.

Madara and Hashirama are heretics.

Thinking that Hashira would come, it’s simply pitiful that this guy showed up.

Isn’t that a panel modification? Where should I file a complaint?

>>145

For now, if I contact Konoha about this, I think Hashirama will be the first to apologize…

>>154

Even if I say it, he’s the one who picked and asked me to be the negotiator, right?

It’s hard to file a complaint poorly…

>>154

If needed, even Tobi would apologize with all his might.

Can’t we blame this on Danzo too…?

>>148

Timeline!

Wow… I wonder if Mu-sama thought that Madara is the one who has come.

Of course, in terms of simple specs, Madara would be superior.

I think that makes him an absolutely dangerous opponent, even for someone of a higher rank, that you can’t let your guard down against.

I think you’re probably talking about this, but doesn’t it mean you don’t know if you can win with this?

“I think it’s just like ‘Even the fastest ninja’s surprise attack failed due to degraded resurrection.'”

Is there a scene where they say they don’t know if they can win other than this?

That being said, I really think it’s ridiculous that the probably second strongest guy in the village messes up negotiations however he pleases based on his own reasoning.

The poop is spotted.

I think Izuna is just an ordinary person who has been tainted by hatred in the extreme situation of war.

>>161

A sense of mediocrity, both in a good way and a bad way.

It could end up being a major blunder in war.

They probably didn’t make a big deal out of it because they knew that Madara was a troublesome guy…

The name value of being a war hero walks on its own, and the person’s character is not considered; it really feels like true heroes are only completed after they die, which is quite frustrating…

“I have awakened my Sharingan! But since Hashirama is stronger than me, I should probably refrain from fighting here… Even when he’s in a chaotic state like this, Madara is still doing a solid analysis of the situation.”

Even if there’s a difference in combat power, the existence of Flying Thunder God is significant.

Tobira knows that I don’t trust him, so he won’t come.

It has been said that the top of the pillar should not easily protrude.

Then, a ninja of equal standing…

Brother… Please really stop taking matters into your own hands and sending Madara out, as it will cause trouble for others.

There’s a chance for Madara in between the pillars, and a chance for the cowardly one.

I think it’s a power balance of that level.

But I feel like the villain is preparing a Meta for my brother using his signature forbidden technique.

I want to see how Madara has softened since getting a wife and children.

>>174

I have a wife and children.

It’s a direct descendant of Obito.

>>174

I feel like I’ve turned into Madara! It seems like I’m becoming a Madara from Hameln.

Isn’t it foolish for a lowly weakling, who doesn’t even measure up to Hashirama’s feet, to try to form an alliance with him?

There is a possibility that Madara did something beforehand that could have made him this angry.

It might just be that Madara is crazy.

If it weren’t for the Tobira incident, they might not have been so tyrannical, so let’s just say it’s Tobira’s fault…

>>179

I think that it’s 99% intentional, but what do you think…?

If my brother were alive, I wouldn’t want to fight that much, but I guess I would end up killing a lot for him…

Obito isn’t able to emulate Madara at all.

Caring for the deceased members of Akatsuki is the pinnacle of an airheaded Madara.

>>181

If it’s Madara, he should be trying to crush everything with his power, right…?

>>181

I wonder if old Madara was just pretending to be innocent…

When you say that, it’s actually crazy that even with children, the restlessness and madness are rather details of an increased level of craziness.

The person believes that they are sincerely acting for the good of the world, but they are actually spreading harm to those around them, similar to Danzo. However, while Danzo is somewhat blind and seriously orchestrating wicked conspiracies, Madara seems to take pleasure in the more sinister aspects of the plan and in his own malicious nature, which is what sets them apart.

Well, both are a nuisance.