Well, it feels like the opposite of gourmet food.
Saying “opposite of gourmet” would make it not just simple food, but rather something akin to animal feed.
>>2
Well, I guess… it’s bait…
>>2
Aren’t Jirolians saying that Jiro is their food?
Eating ramen that looks like leftover food is fine to consider as feed.
I had no objections and recognized that it was mostly true.
Well, if that’s the case, I see it happily eating the food.
The feeling of pity may not be such a big mistake after all…
I do feel a bit of resistance to that appearance, but…
I feel like the real bottom tier can’t afford Jiro-style ramen since it costs nearly a thousand yen now.
>>9
It feels like true bottom-tier to say something like this for 1000 yen.
>>56
The closer you are to it, the higher the resolution becomes…
From a high distance, a thousand yen is probably just a matter of error.
>>9
Creating a fictional bottom tier that cannot spend a thousand yen on a meal due to delusions…
I’ll show you the real bottom! It feels like I’m being shown the correct answer in a gourmet manga.
>>9
When asked if a college student in their eating prime is really at the bottom level, I can’t really say for sure… I’m not very familiar with the area around Waseda.
I wouldn’t say it’s exactly like Jiro’s style, but I wonder if people like this don’t eat things like ochazuke either.
>>10
What do tea-zuké and Jiro-style ramen have in common?
I want to fill my stomach, but I think it’s alright to focus more on the bait because that’s the foundation.
So it’s not a mistake, right?
It has a post-war black market feel.
No matter the reality, isn’t it rather privileged to call something that people are actually eating as leftovers?
>>14
I haven’t said it directly to their face, so it’s probably fine.
Eating large portions aggressively is, to put it mildly, not beautiful.
This is the same development as the person from Yes.
>>16
The person from Yes couldn’t continue the shop with their ideal taste and quit, but they didn’t look down on customers as much as they said; they just couldn’t come up with something new despite their lingering attachment.
This guy looks down on others from the outset and is of such high class that he can live without any hardship even if his store goes under, so he’s of poor quality.
The presentation of Jiro’s food is messy, but I can only say “Yeah,” yet there are also celebrities with money who eat good food and say Jiro is delicious.
This pretentious snob…! Take this…!! (Lard)
A little too much excitement, and at this point, I don’t feel like Alice will lose the ramen contest at all.
There are two types of deliciousness: one is a delicate flavor created through creativity and ingenuity, and the other is the violence of salt, fat, and carbohydrates.
Jiro doesn’t say it’s bad, but I wonder why he prefers to eat Jiro when there are many other delicious ramen options available.
>>24
There are times when I want to eat something violent.
…Once, you willingly chose to immerse yourself in the lowly world of ramen, trying to enlighten the common people about true deliciousness… I believe that dedication was truly remarkable.
Seeing someone happily eating that when there are other options available, what does it mean that they can only eat things like that?
>>26
Considering the price alone, they are probably people who eat gourmet meals every day, so I don’t think there’s anything strange about that way of saying it.
It’s not strange at all to treat something like that as merely providing satisfaction with cheap, violent seasoning and quantities.
>>26
Since you look down on others, such thoughts do not come to you.
>>26
I pity those who lack upbringing and education to the extent that they willingly choose Jiro-style ramen even when there are options available.
Once you’ve grown that way, there’s no way to fix it.
I think there are quite a few people on the eating side who also think that way when they’re eating.
But these guys are even disparaging three-star restaurants.
It’s different from those pseudo-gourmets who are swayed by information.
I’m being treated like a child from a poor country.
>>32
Well, I may be a commoner from a poor country…
I’m saying this because I’m eating it, but that’s basically bait.
Well, it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say that choosing to eat Naobaru when there are other options available shows a lack of creativity…
Well, as someone who eats Jiro, I think about 30% of it is correct.
Ramens were expensive food, so I think Jiro wants to feed college students who have no money as much ramen as they can eat, so I don’t think it’s off the mark.
I wonder if I should go now…
Nowadays, ramen is not something that the poor without money would eat.
If I were told I have a bad palate that can only taste oil and salt, I wouldn’t have much to say in response.
Is there really a ramen shop that has a high-end vibe but terrible customer service?
I guess there is one in the city.
>>41
There are different types of customer service, you know…
If I had money and connections, I would like to enjoy gourmet food every meal, but I’m afraid that my taste buds would get used to it and I wouldn’t feel the excitement anymore.
There’s a guy like the boss of extra ramen in the same team, but is that okay?
>>43
My parents look down on ramen itself, so it’s not a problem.
Service is a completely different field from cooking.
It wouldn’t be strange that there are stores that can’t balance both.
The old man and old woman are a nuisance, but that doesn’t mean they think it’s acceptable to provide messy service.
Aren’t you going to criticize the way he usually serves customers at his store as a “child living with parents”?
It’s clearer as food, so it’s not as unpleasant as the noodle folding type.
Livestock are not given such unhealthy feed…
Jiro is getting more expensive.
If you’re in the same price range, everything is pretty similar.
If it’s about spending more money on food, then that’s true.
Even though the parents look down on them, they have a pitying attitude, which makes it somewhat difficult to blame them…
>>50
These people probably wouldn’t say that in front of someone who is happily eating it…
>>50
If someone were really outrageously rich, there would likely be more people choosing fine dining rather than Jiro-style places.
I like Jiro-style, but I don’t find any elements in the thread image that are worth denying.
The way you say it is a bit harsh… but the content is, well… yeah…
The resolution of these damn humans is ridiculously high, isn’t it?
>>54
I think those who believe this is real are just children who are no different from sheltered ones who are clueless about the world.
>>59
It’s a discussion from another thread, but I’ll quote a page from this manga.
Since I’m just a nameless person playing pretend consultant…
>>74
At the point of criticizing others, you’re just a fellow player in a meaningless game.
>>80
Responses from someone who seems to be playing at being a shitty consultant.
>>82
That’s why we can only respond with labels; we are companions in this play.
>>91
But you’re pierced, aren’t you?
>>112
So if it’s not a game, then respond with an argument.
You’re just throwing around things that you’ve labeled in your own mind, like “this guy is〇〇” or “it’s stuck,” which is why you’re being mocked as if it’s just a child’s play.
>>123
That’s super annoying.
That’s called being stabbed. 😜
>>133
I’m sorry for saying things like “argument play.”
What we were doing was playing at being human, you humanoid.
>>140
It’s funny how I’m so irritated that my Japanese is getting weird too 😂😂😂
>>59
That’s not how you should say it.
>>75
The attack power of the people below here continues to be high.
>>59
Don’t just talk about the pages you’ve read; at least read the main story.
>>88
Isn’t this the place where we only talk about the pages that are posted?
>>95
I think you’re included in that, but usually, people are speaking with the assumption that others have read it.
If they don’t actively come closer, then we can just consider it a separation…
Even if you look down on ramen and the people who eat it, once they come to the shop as customers, you can’t treat them poorly in terms of service.
No matter what kind of chef it is, a dish with chemical seasonings and grease will always win if it’s in the thousand yen range…
The person complaining in this thread is also looking down on foodies.
>>61
Those who are speaking from the opposing side also have targets they look down on, so it’s a matter of both sides being the same.
The elderly couple’s opinion is just one person’s impression, so it’s fine.
It’s definitely not okay for the store to openly have a condescending attitude toward customers…
Well, if you’re not going to say it face to face, I guess that’s fine. Personally, I don’t want to get close.
Well, my son is the type to say it to your face.
>>64
At the time of the thread image, the parent is admonishing, so I guess I understand.
>>64
Furthermore, a convenient group that praises us has emerged, and we have come to a point of no return.
Real wealthy people don’t actually make such blatant comments looking down on poor people.
There are many lowly people who are like social climbers.
>>65
In that area as well, those who have risen to power through the help of others are like that.
I wonder if this type of self-reliance could be a seed for making money?
I think it’s admirable to take on the low-level tasks with the intention of enlightening babies.
What’s being outputted is garbage.
I ate it today, but I thought to myself that it’s not at all something refined since they were putting in several spoonfuls of umami seasoning right in front of me. Nonetheless, the all-toppings pork W was delicious, fat.
>>68
Did you already eat at this hour, Mita?
>>77
Yeah
If I arrive in Tokyo by overnight bus at 7 AM, it’s just right because I can enter the first round.
>>81
You seem to be in a good mood.
I think I’ll have some Morning Jiro before going to work after a long time.
It seems that the person is someone decent, as they’re saying not to speak like that.
It’s correct that it’s a mountain of leftover food.
Even someone trying to pose as a gourmet can have stubble.
>>73
To the common people, it looks like stubble…
It’s so sad, isn’t it?
I inherited only the warped aspects of my kind but flawed parents.
I look down on them internally, but I don’t say anything to their faces, and I’m also reprimanding my son’s comments.
Although it is depicted as a villain, isn’t it actually someone with a fair amount of common sense?
And I suppose it’s only natural for the Jiro, who looks down on others, to be called leftover food from an objective standpoint.
>>84
I like Jiro, but Jiro piled up to the point of overflowing from the bowl is certainly dirty.
I think it’s a bit of a stretch to compare leftover food or pig feed when the upper class, who look down on ramen itself, are just fighting among the lower tiers.
It’s purely disgusting when food overflows from the container and makes a mess around, regardless of leftover food.
No one criticizes reality based on exaggerated villains from food manga.
It’s quite common for a chef to say to their apprentices not to grow facial hair because it’s unhygienic, while they themselves have a beard.
The Waseda Rugby Club is probably just fine for those below.
…Is that so? What are those rugby players even doing going to Waseda? Who are they?
For someone so excellent, your appearance isn’t that great.
Well, if we understand that a person’s upbringing isn’t their fault, it seems natural to feel sorry for them…
I don’t understand the mentality of those who use this topic as an excuse to attack people anonymously, and it’s scary.
>>96
I hate those who enjoy labeling others as imaginary enemies!
I don’t think there’s any other way.
Odaiba Jouno Club
Suck it.
You got it!
>>97
There’s someone behind you who doesn’t understand mental stuff at all!
>>107
I think it’s probably a misfire!
>>108
This is the name of a terrible cabaret club that appeared in the same episode as the thread image, so this reaction is proof that they haven’t read it.
>>108
It might be that type of thing that gets posted anywhere if the thread is growing…
Is the reason for the shop closing down despite having a good taste due to high prices and a lack of customers?
>>98
Terrible customer service.
>>98
Only the taste is a strong character.
Customer service is so bad that even a delicious restaurant can reach a level where it loses customers or goes out of business.
>>113
Even with the premise that Arisu-san is praising the taste to the max, cutting off ties would still be pretty extreme.
I can date a bald person too.
>>128
In Serizawa’s case, they managed to hold back at that point.
>>98
The abnormal person who goes crazy and acts violently just because a customer asked for the bill has caused customers to stay away.
What is the line between gourmet food and mere feed, to begin with?
I can only think about whether or not I’m compelled by the necessity to eat.
It looks like it’s mocking, but actually, it’s a pitiful page.
Well, it’s a flow where Arisu-san, the bald guy, and Takeda will beat me up, so I feel safe.
It seems the old couple doesn’t realize that the service was so bad that even regular customers are leaving because they were only told the convenient parts.
>>104
The way things were lifted at the launch includes a disregard for costs in the choice of ingredients, which reflects a negative mindset typical of the rich.
The Jiro style also looks down on first-time customers, so they are quite similar.
I can see the flag that indicates losing to pig feed.
>>110
Well, when it comes to ramen, having a high-end orientation comes after the satisfaction of the meal, and I’ve done that many times, and Ms. Uzaki also failed with that.
In the first place, bowl dishes are generally considered to be vulgar cuisine…
At the point where you can go to university, it’s impossible to be at the bottom.
>>116
It’s fine to be equally at the bottom as long as you’re eating pig feed.
I feel like I’m going to lose if I run into that old man Takeda.
Because they are self-righteous and arrogant, even regular customers don’t frequent the store, and the four shop owners with comedy correction can’t compete with the dokyun who has regulars gathered.
Unemployed people pretending to be consultants influenced by manga.
I couldn’t do it because I’d be too embarrassed.
Is it okay for people who think of it as Jiro-style feed and those who serve Jiro-style ramen to be in the same camp?
>>125
This will definitely lead to a fight!
>>126
In other words, it seems that this complication will be sorted out through laundering.
>>125
It’s okay because we’re not friends or anything.
In the Jiro-style, it’s not the customers who are being arrogant, but the staff.
>>127
In that sense, it seems intentional to portray people who look down on Jiro-style ramen as “disrespectful, arrogant, filthy old men who disregard customers.”
It should be called “ugly food” because it is the opposite of beauty.
Rather, Harada, who has become as skilled as a man who has been able to freely develop his talents in such a privileged environment, is too strong…
In reality, the lower class tends to pay well at meal tables.
A person who can save wisely on daily meals is less likely to fall to the bottom.
Pride that doesn’t match reality × inability to endure a decline in quality of life × repetitive dining out that doesn’t require thought = casually wasting around a thousand yen.
>>134
In other words, it’s hard to truly call Jiro bottom-tier when he prefers to go to places that look like bottom-tier food at this point…
>>143
There are cheaper ones available.
It’s delicious, but if asked if it’s gourmet, well…
By the way, this week, it’s been confirmed that I’ll end up having to step down from the spectator seat after being indirectly threatened by Arisu-san.
>>136
I might be up against Takeda, who defeated Guruta-kun.
It’s childish that you can’t ignore it even though you should just ignore it.
I get told by the other person that I’m being hurt.
>>144
What’s wrong with pretending to be a third party and defending?
>>144
If you get involved and then play the victim when you get hit back, it’s pathetic.
>>155
In other words, it’s like someone who’s been pretending to be other people and making fun of themselves suddenly goes on the attack, and then it’s game over because that’s just how their mind works. It’s obvious that someone who’s been annoying me all this time suddenly goes silent.
I thought it was some kind of standard format.
I’m curious about how the axis of the discussion in the critique will turn out.
– Gets angry when a customer asks for the bill.
– Gets angry when a customer enters the store.
– Gets angry if a customer places a bowl on top.
– Gets angry when there are customers lined up.
How can we possibly win against this damn shopkeeper with four of us…?
>>150
The taste is being evaluated, and since it’s a matter of taste, there should normally be a chance to win.
Rather, it is about whether the critic, Ms. Arisu, will overturn that.
Eh, eh? A… domination? Then that means… Tch, it’s an unpleasant feeling, isn’t it~~ Wow… it’s an unpleasant feeling, isn’t it~~ No way~~! After all, Takao’s dashi is different, right!? I can still tell. Today it’s Hidaka kombu, though. Even though you’re coming with soy sauce, you don’t understand that? You act all high and mighty… but I’m a bit in a hurry, so how long will it take? A pig just wanting to quickly replenish food can just go to the nearby gyudon shop. Oink!? When my classmate comes to the store, I can’t help but seal away my party thinking!!
It looks like the customers are having fun after all.
>>151
Oink!?
There are definitely people who, while self-deprecatingly calling things like junk food “just bait,” still absolutely love them.
Arisu seems to have already gotten Hakke involved, and she might even casually use a forbidden technique to the point of not making it herself.
>>154
In other words, I’ve been doing the ramen showdown by thinking of it myself and having others make it since the time of the Discovery Event…
Upon reflection, if you’re someone from the upper class, you might look down on the customers for things like the store’s ticket system, self-service water, not explaining the dishes served, and expecting customers to leave promptly after eating—all those elements that seem to disregard the customers’ experience.
What is it that ultimately leads to fights resembling those of elementary school students?
>>157
Because it’s a comic.
It would be better not to get involved in this matter…
The image is that of truly bottom-tier food, feeling like there’s nothing else to eat.
At least the biggest drawback will disappear.
There’s no aspect of customer service.
What method does winning as a critic refer to?
Are you going to do a complete analysis?
>>164
This time I’m quite looking forward to this place.
Are you suggesting to come up with a superior version of ramen?
>>165
I wonder if I can win with ramen that might seem correct as ramen, even if it might not be.
It may not be impossible to win in the same arena, but it feels like they probably won’t do it.
They’re manipulating by subtly threatening by holding onto the bald guy’s weakness, and it’s likely that other famous ramen shop owners might mobilize in the same way.
I wonder how exactly they plan to win.
And I feel that Guruta-kun will probably lose.
>>168
To put it meta, there’s no proper loser other than him.
Arisu won’t take much damage even if she loses.
Even if you can win in taste, it doesn’t mean anything just because you’re a critic who can cook.
I wonder what they will do, really.
I like Jiro-style ramen, but when I’m told it’s like animal feed, I do wonder if it is.
Instead of serving another delicious ramen, I suppose it’s about adding steps after arriving at the same ingredients and the same cooking method to make it better.
It’s possible that the cooking part could be done by a bald person.
Guruta-kun will definitely lose first, but after clashing with Takeda’s father, it seems like they can communicate a little, so reconciliation might be possible.
>>173
To be frank, I feel like I could get fairly close to someone just by going out for drinks once.
>>173
That guy is the type to say something like, “If it’s delicious enough to eat what the opponent is serving, then I’ll give it a try!”
Is it really okay for the origin to be tied with both sides like that…?
I think it will be a matter of whether Metateguchi loses or rather the critics’ side wins all.
To be honest, the old man Takeda isn’t the type to have a drop in popularity even if he loses.
It’s honestly just a fight where it doesn’t matter who wins, as long as there’s some sort of satisfaction, between Guruta and that dunce old man…
However, the “Raota” pride themselves on having a divine tongue that can discern even the slightest differences.
I do like Jiro-style ramen, but it’s hard to deny the perspective that eating something so filthy and unhealthy on a regular basis is insane.
Well, except for Guruta, anyone else can do “Haha, of course you’ll lose” even if they lose.
It has to be that Guruta loses for things to come together properly.
The New Wave genre, elevated by its followers, becomes overwhelmed by its ideals and falls into a predicament.
A person who has continued to believe that everything else is wrong while lifting themselves up without needing even followers is Sahashi.
Because I had my parents’ money, I was managing even if I couldn’t sell anything.
It seems like I might fall over on my own because of the setup.
It’s not like you’ve been making ramen for over twenty years; in reality, there has been a gap.
>>182
As long as the store owner, who is only evaluated for taste, has backup, that won’t happen.
The person who seems to be throwing everything onto others again this time is likely to fall over on their own is that old man Takeda.
The punchline at Takeda’s dad’s place is somehow that after reconciling, Gulta’s ramen appeared on the menu at Dokyun, and in response to “What are you doing?!” it’s something like, “Well, I’ll also be using the critic side effectively!”
Takeda is essentially not good at creating ramen, and the evaluation of it being a rough Jirolike inspiration has been consistently depicted; in fact, there is no portrayal of him improving the ramen on his own.
I want to see a storyline where Gluta-kun, who is feeling down after a loss, is taken to a cabaret.
About half of Mr. Takeda’s achievements are due to Kun Fujimoto, and it’s pretty consistent.
That aside, they occasionally do something clever.
In times like this, Komiyama’s place doesn’t come up in conversation.
It seems that the other person does not remember my name.
>>189
It seems like it will be the safest bet, to put it simply…
If Fujimoto-kun suddenly appeared as a backup for Arisu-san, I would burst out laughing.
In the Re:Play Chronicle, that annoying monkey won’t come.
It’s exactly prey for that guy.
It seems like they won’t fight on the same stage after all.
I only acknowledge your arms.
I wonder where the service comes from that says, “We don’t have ramen on our menu,” when it’s not even necessary to read the names on the menu perfectly in a place that caters to the upper class…
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