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[Dragon Ball] What do you think was the reason for Jiren’s defeat in the end?

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I don’t want to talk about it…

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It’s my fault for not having the heart to trust my friends…

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Trust

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>>3

Shut up! What do you know about Jiren!?

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The part where it was thought from the beginning that he would lose to Goku because he has an ugly face.

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At the time of the power tournament, there was a difference in strength that made it feel like victory was already determined.

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Because I’m meditating…

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I’m not going to quickly take everyone down…

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No, it’s probably because my teammate was really bad.

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>>9

Dispo and Toppo are strong enough to be in the top 10 of the tournament, so it’s the others that matter.

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While I was meditating, Goku and Vegeta kept getting stronger and stronger.

Maji-ren was even stronger than that.

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The clown’s inability to utilize selfishness on their own is the reason for their defeat.

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Make sure to take revenge properly and become a solitary existence.

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The self-narration is really bad…

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>>14

Jiren isn’t saying anything!

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Even if there is a heart that believes in comrades, apart from Toppo and Dispo, there’s no real strength.

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Suddenly, they start talking about the reasons for their obsession with their own strength.

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Call that guy to the tournament too.

Who is it?

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I think we’re talking too much about Jiren here.

If things go poorly, there might even be days with more than Buu, Freeza, and Cell.

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>>18

Well, Jiren is a popular character…

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It’s incredibly strong…

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More than Goku who has inflated by default.

Well, that’s been the case until now too.

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Even now, it feels like we were practically reset, and it seems like stories about the super standards won’t come up anymore…

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I will teach you as well. The reason for Jiren’s defeat.

Jiren’s parents were killed by a villain.

And he was saved by the man who would become his master, preserving his life.

After that, Jiren sought to master greater strength and the right path under his master.

One person, two people, three people… Jiren has made friends around him.

There he came again. He fought alongside his companions. He was confident that he could win against Jiren.

─────But he was too strong. Jiren’s comrades were killed one after another.

Even Jiren’s master lost his life in the battle against that guy.

Jiren tried to stand up again, but there was no disciple left who would stand up.

The powerless had no choice but to obey the strong. Jiren was left alone.

The sorrow of Jiren, who was betrayed by those he trusted, is immeasurable.

At that moment, I felt deeply that “trust is worthless.”

At the same time, I understood. “Strength is justice” and “Strength is absolute.”

If you win, those around you will follow. If you achieve victory, you will gain everything. There is no need for emotions there.

I fell in love with that incredible thirst for strength and the loneliness it brought in Jiren.

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With Dispo and Destroyer God Toppo who can win against Golfrid, it’s this guy 🤡 The Supreme Kai over there is definitely watching with ease…

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I came…

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You’re talking about the reason for your defeat, but in the end, it sounds like the reason you fell in love!

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Akira Kushida

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Discussion Board DB Topic Tier

S Uhhihyo Sel

A Ikiri Gohan-chan, Dad is sick… in his heart…!

B Blorist Jiren storytelling

I think it should be about this much.

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>>31

I kind of like the rarely seen depressed Goku threads.

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Certainly, we lost in the end, but I don’t want to see a situation where I lose to others due to inflation moving forward…

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A candidate for the god of destruction, a fat guy, a super strong bald man, and a skinny guy who is strong but kind of hard to understand.

This team has no elements to lose.

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Mob face

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Other than the Silent Top Disc, everything is treated as trash, but the string user Kunshee is fairly strong, right!

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It would have been fine to stand proudly as the side of justice in a different universe, but suddenly attacking from the spectator seats after losing an argument is where it went wrong.

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>>36

That place isn’t for enjoying the destruction of gods! It felt like the characters were being moved around due to the convenience of the script, just like in that time.

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>>36

It was too pathetic to try to kill Master Roshi and Krillin so precisely.

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But he was too strong.

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Don’t be meditating or anything.

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>>38

There is no longer anyone I need to fight…

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What happened to the guy who killed the master?

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>>39

It was too strong.

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>>39

I wonder if I defeated it all by myself.

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Is Jiren a virgin?

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>>41

I will tell you about the day Jiren lost his virginity.

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Someone who is misunderstood by viewers because 🤡 talks about the past on their own.

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>>43

That’s someone who only knows the joke.

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Jiren himself hasn’t talked about it!

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Even though my master (Future Gohan) was killed, I somehow trained and defeated Android 18 and the others, similar to Future Trunks.

I wonder if Jiren was able to get revenge on his master…

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You don’t understand anything. That overwhelmingly strong Jiren… actually, his power isn’t that different from ours. He has no waste in the way he uses his power. Have you noticed? Even during a fight, aside from a momentary attack, he relaxes both his body and mind. An attack from zero doesn’t let the opponent read his movements, and it also gives him great explosive power. Plus, it helps conserve stamina. Jiren probably does this instinctively. So, since I can’t do that, I’m first training in my mind.

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No matter how you think about it, the strengthened No. 17 is too unfair.

Even Jiren is worn out, what the hell is up with that guy?

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I think people who only follow the movies will be surprised to find that Jiren behaves worse than they expected when they actually watch the anime.

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>>51

The manga version is done properly, so…

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Hmm… I wonder…

You are guilty of a far greater crime than I am.

Trunks, one of the reasons I decided I should exterminate humans is because of you.

You created a new ring of time by changing the past.

This is the proof of your sin… How many times have you traveled between the past and the future now?

We know… you have continued to violate the taboos of the gods while being human.

Trunks, you saved Goku, who was supposed to die from a heart disease, right?

If he had died according to history, I wouldn’t have sought this body.

But for your sake, history went mad and became distorted.

You are the one who created this world.

This situation is all because of you, Trunks!

Furthermore, it is nothing but a result of your human arrogance, such as the time machine!

Therefore, we are saving this world from human sin!

Trunks, you are a sinner! Your foolish choice has ignited my justice and led me to the Human 0 Project!

Therefore, the people of Earth are as good as murdered by you!

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Jiren is being persistent again with his self-talk…

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>>56

Look closely, this is it indeed.

I haven’t had any exchanges where Zamasu appears yet.

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Claiming to be the justice of the universe, yet having a low cosmic level.

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Goku rapidly evolves to a selfish level during the tournament.

In competitions, Frieza demonstrates top-class strength along with cunningness and surprise attacks, making it unpredictable what he will do next.

Infinite energy and stamina with a barrier, Number 17.

Shitty game

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>>59

Dealing with these three is a struggle, and the fact that Jiren barely wins outside the ring makes it the worst game ever.

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>>59

Furthermore, just before this, Kirabeji and Kaio-ken Blue are also fighting together pretty well…

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I think Broly, who can be thrown against a serious fusion warrior in his first battle, is way worse in terms of being a terrible game.

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If this guy was overpowered from the start, it would be the end.

In that case, as a tournament gimmick, all participating universes will certainly be annihilated.

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Did Broly do something bad…? It felt like he was just getting beaten up continuously…

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I’m better than Goma.

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🤡 Jiren did well…

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>>69

Stand up, Jiren!

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>>74

The difference between fans and companions.

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In the power tournament, there are traps where if you accidentally kill someone when they’re mixed in at a microscopic size, you’ll be disqualified.

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The flickering Saiyan part is really the best, isn’t it…?

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The biggest factor was that someone who seemed to exceed my abilities showed up, and it shook my mental stability.

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Thanks to Frieza conserving energy until the final stages, he was able to move quite a bit.

I recklessly engage with Toppo and end up getting torn to shreds.

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>>75

I underestimated the god of destruction Toppo and thought I could easily break through the power of destruction! After that, I was beaten up in a self-parody festival and ended up losing almost all of my stored power…

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I love the scene where Toppo encourages Jiren.

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I’ve entrusted quite a bit to my companions until I am on my own.

I think that no matter what was said, the body trusted.

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I recently started watching it and was shocked by the change in animation style from the Power Tournament arc.

Jiren only appears in the OP.

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>>79

There are some parts that are lacking, but the animation and character movements in the tournament arc are really good in key places.

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It’s not such a strange way of doing things under those rules to identify an opponent who requires the strongest version of yourself and leave the rest to your teammates while you rest.

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>>80

It’s not like I’m defenseless while I’m resting.

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Attacked mentally by Frieza, my mind becomes even more shaken.

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Well, even if I give various reasons, I think it just comes down to losing simply due to a difference in skill levels.

It feels like the seventh universe won by fully utilizing its advantage in numbers with a thicker layer.

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It’s impossible without a debate between Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, and Android 17.

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The animation of the episode where Vegeta unleashes his Final Flash on Jiren is really good, isn’t it?

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The unlimited energy of Number 17 fits too well with the survival rules.

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>>87

Moreover, combat power is also guaranteed.

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Although Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, and Android 17 were at a higher level back then, the fact that there are characters like Piccolo, who can team up with Gohan, and Android 18, who should be on par with Gohan and Android 17, really shows how thick the ranks are.

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The guys from the Seventh Universe are all like cockroaches.

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When I saw it before in one go, I realized that during the long period of Goku suffering from aftereffects, Vegeta was working incredibly hard.

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>>91

Almost everyone participates in the Genki Dama out of desperation, but only Vegeta does not join.

It’s nice to see that the character is properly responding to Bibrian, who is trying to launch a surprise attack on the defenseless Goku.

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Jiren’s fighting style occasionally turns into brutal fights.

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>>92

It’s terrible how they get so enraged that they step on Freeza’s tail and beat him up.

That was a situation where I could have dropped it if I had been calm, so it’s definitely Frieza’s win in terms of provoking.

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I like to push the projectile against my stomach and blow it away.

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I’m glad it was a team match and out-of-bounds was allowed.

If I were told to defeat it from the front, I think it would be impossible.

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>>94

If killing was allowed, Frieza and Hit would have been much stronger, but Jiren would have been even more dangerous, right?

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In the end, it’s nice that Jiren is pushing himself to the limit too…

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Well, it’s strong enough given that Jiren and the God of Destruction level Toppo are here.

The remaining seven people aren’t strong, so it seems the difference in strength was felt there, just like with the disposals.

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Goku is somehow immortal.

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>>99

It’s unfair that after resting for a few minutes, I’m feeling somewhat recovered.

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There are times, like when you encounter a hit, when your anger threshold is quite low.

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The bulletin board is the world’s number one Jiren fan site.

I thought so, but when I looked at the boss character popularity poll, Jiren was in 3rd place.

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>>102

The animation is great, and the final battle is something you can appreciate no matter how many times you see it…

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Didn’t everyone notice that No. 18 was hiding? Aren’t they all idiots? Pride Troopers.

All losers are forcibly sent to the bench.

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>>104

It’s not counted as a kill since it was a self-destruct, the archangel said so!

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>>104

Aren’t you thinking that everyone was obliterated and there weren’t even any bodies left because of the self-detonation? Also, regarding Number 17.

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Because I became vanilla.

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It’s treated as a joke, but I think the combination of Jiren and the Clown is a character you’d definitely end up liking if you saw them.

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I feel like we probably won’t be able to delve into other universes anymore.

I wonder if the highly advanced beings in the universe are strong.

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>>111

It seems that being high doesn’t mean being strong.

There is no need to fight since there is so much peace and no conflicts.

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This lame outfit looks bad, but if I take it off, I’ll look cool, Jiren.

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It seems like the Supreme Kai and the God of Destruction of the universe, who are above human level, have a good relationship and are likely in contact with other universes as well.

It’s remarkable how Zamasu easily killed all the Kaioshins; I wonder how he manipulated things to make that happen…

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One of the reasons for defeat was lying down with my legs crossed.

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The security is so bad that even if there were beings at the level of Jiren or Toppo, it wouldn’t be enough…

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The scene where he undresses in the final episode is really cool, isn’t it?

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