
Yeah
I like Cao.
>>2
It’s funny how I said, “It’s just you and me now, so let’s settle this!” and got turned down, which made me lose my cool.
The beginning was incredibly cool and full of mystery.
The peak time is when we are selling pork.
>>5
It’s just at the beginning…
Both Cao Cao and Liu Bei looked like they understood heaven and humanity when they were young, but as they aged, it feels like they drifted away from heaven.
I wonder what would have happened if the original author hadn’t passed away.
Until Seki-san appears, it’s a standard orthodox Liu Bei as usual.
Things start to look strange around the Yellow Turban area.
>>8
Huh…!?
>>8
Haven’t you read anything about the Three Kingdoms?
The person who has been lost all along because they characterized it with a hasty launch.
Human trash.
There seems to be some likes and dislikes regarding the existence of Liu Bei itself.
Where did the original author pass away?
>>14
Around the Battle of Guandu?
However, it seems that in the first episode, they almost ignored Lee Hak-in’s manuscript and completed it, so there isn’t much impact from before and after.
Creative Cao Cao has a liking for Yakuza Liu Bei and Saint Liu Bei, or anything else.
>>15
It’s a manipulation.
The original work is just lending its name.
It was in a fan book or something, but the original text seemed pretty boring.
>>16
But I feel like the vibe has changed quite a bit since the Battle of Red Cliffs.
>>28
It seems that the editing has changed.
>>16
I heard that the change in tone midway was influenced by the change of the editor in charge.
Is this a Yakuza character…??
Maybe it’s orthodox…
Souten Kouro has interpreted characters and manga expressions in so many ways that it has now become the standard.
>>22
That’s not true.
It’s just that someone who talks about the Three Kingdoms with only knowledge of manga has undergone a ridiculous version upgrade.
The character Liu Bei from Sōten is likely designed with the understanding that some readers may feel repulsion, and it is precisely because of this that he has his appeal.
>>23
It’s far from a perfect character, but there was some convincing reason to believe that this one could stand up to the ferocity of Sōten Cao Cao.
I always hated you.
I was rather surprised by Kongming.
Including suddenly becoming human.
It gives the impression of a character that is just a contrarian to the virtuous sage in the story.
>>27
Contrarianism is fine, but beyond that lies Liu Bei’s virtue.
I couldn’t express it in a way that would be particularly convincing compared to a saintly ruler interpretation.
>>27
The reason it says “Neo Three Kingdoms” on the back cover is that it breaks existing images by making Cao Cao the protagonist and having that kind of feel.
“Wow, this author really doesn’t understand the Three Kingdoms at all. Liu Bei’s mother is a strong and great mother! I’ll fix that properly. Before departing, I’ll raise my sword and make a pledge to attend school!” The anime director who said that is amazing.
>>43
I wanted to see something other than a typical Romance of the Three Kingdoms, you know…
Isn’t Yokoyama too big of a wall?
If blue sky is the standard, then what about Kong Ming?
>>33
At first, he was like a hermit showing his private parts, but then he went to being a standard Kongming halfway through…
I’ve been told this about a hundred times, but from the very beginning, my encounter with Yorito was completely different from the original concept, so I’ve only been involved to the extent of lending my name.
Some people talk about Liu Bei as if he’s a Yakuza in official history, right…?
Since the main Northern Expedition with Kongming starts after the ending of Sōten, it can’t be helped if it ends without much clarity.
Are there really that many characters with a blue sky as the standard?
The blue sky has a lot of exaggeration, you know!?
>>39
There probably aren’t many people who would be impressed by the portrayals of Dong Zhuo, Lü Bu, and Kongming in that manga.
>>47
It’s not a manga that only has parts of artistic embellishment that even a monkey would understand as the free imagination of a manga artist.
Rather, it is precisely because of such flashy depictions that there is no doubt that people cannot distinguish between historical facts and fiction in other parts.
>>68
Who are you talking about?
>>39
Zhu Yung was killed by Lü Bu crushing his face!
I think the atmosphere changed after Red Cliffs because that’s when Cao Cao became the dominant power in that area.
Until then, I was on the rise, but once I become the strongest force, it raises questions like whether to support the men or to build my own country.
I don’t know how intentional it is, but it’s really wobbly yet consistently captures a sense of mystery, and I think that’s impressive.
I think it was a good portrayal that they referred to themselves as a bag and called the contents characters like Guan Yu and other humans, as the person in question quite genuinely has no substance.
Thinking that just by going against the trend, this character was created is simply foolish.
Rather than saying that the blue sky has become standard,
I think it had a significant influence in making me feel that it was okay to create a character like this…
I don’t think it’s just a contrarian stance, but it does give off a soft character… that’s what I thought.
I like this author’s character creation because even small people and those who rely only on momentum strangely exude charm and intensity.
I think it’s a bit of a waste for people who got into Romance of the Three Kingdoms through Sōten Kōro.
It’s really none of my business, but…
Dong Zhuo is someone who would boil people and eat them…
>>53
That’s pretty much covered in the usual Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and since there’s a cannibalism episode involving Liu Bei, it’s not that unusual for ancient China.
>>53
The act of boiling in a pot is something that has actually been recorded.
Whether we ate the boiled ones afterwards or not is another matter.
It’s simply a matter that the creations received have that much influence.
I like how the enigmatic quality from the early stages resurfaces along the way.
I read it and got quite fed up because it keeps repeating “I thought I had awakened, but it didn’t work out after all.”
Every time I see a character like Dong Zhuo in this work turning humans into furniture, I can’t help but be seriously taken aback by how incomprehensible it is…
>>61
It’s fine for Cao Cao to go to extremes for reform, but he’s being pointed out that he’s being consumed by power, so this is the right reaction.
Diao Chan didn’t become double with a sword…
I really like how Dong Zhuo gets seriously angry after Cao Cao sees through him and says, “You’re sober, aren’t you?”
The part where there are ridiculous provocative phrases like “used woman” and so on.
Even though he’s cooking and eating humans, what stands out is that Dong Zhuo has a somewhat unappetizing expression while eating.
I don’t want to eat it, but it feels like eating it would be more blasphemous… it has a taste like that.
The story depicted Liu Bei as a noble and virtuous man while portraying Cao Cao as a villain, so it was refreshing when it was presented this way.
I feel that there are more works where Dong Zhuo is not just a fool due to the influence of Sōten.
>>67
If you think about it normally, an ordinary perverted old man wouldn’t be able to survive in the Western Regions.
>>67
I had the impression of a fat, corrupt bureaucrat.
However, there are scenes that even the protagonists cannot follow, so Cao Cao is really suited to be a villain, isn’t he…
>>69
This guy is strangely principled, but at the same time, he kills civilians too casually… so it’s hard to say anything about him.
>>69
Isn’t it about as serious as the Nanjing Massacre?
Being obsessed with a widow and causing the death of the legitimate heir and retainers is something that can be excused as a mere whim.
>>80
We will part.
>>82
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Gakushin has become strongly associated with the image of the blue sky.
There were quite a few instances where it seemed like there was actually an original source for that in Soten.
A mere fool cannot gather power by propping up an emperor.
The unparalleled Dong Zhuo has become a big player, but the fact that he chose a beast-themed route instead of the demon king theme gives a sense of differentiation.
It’s sad to see Zhao Yun getting older while accompanying this unimpressive character under the blue sky.
In Japan, the influence of Yokoyama Three Kingdoms was incredibly significant, so it was good that this was released.
I quite like young guys like Yuan Shang and those from the Sun family who charge ahead with such bluster and unfounded sense of omnipotence and end up dying.
When it comes to follow-ups, the fall of A City is often mentioned, but I feel that more care is given to the Jiangsu massacre.
I feel like the castle was depicted as pretty ordinary in a bad way.
I wanted the scene of Guan Yu’s return to be depicted more clearly.
I had given up on it, but somehow I ended up coming back.
>>84
I was surprised because everyone suddenly got older.
There are some mistakes, but I think it’s the scene where Cao Cao wanted his son’s wife that feels creepy…
It is said that a massacre occurred, but that scene itself is not depicted.
It feels like this guy under the blue sky had such an attachment to his father.
That said, it feels wrong to just pretend it didn’t happen.
A major Dong Zhuo that can’t be depicted first with a nagging move towards Kou Feng.
Upon re-reading, there are unusually many depictions of awakening for Liu Bei.
It’s great to see that the battle between Yuan Shao and Cao Cao felt like a final match, visually evident.
Souten Liu Bei and Kong Ming are both like that, but when they come together, they strangely fit together perfectly.
Well, I think Cao Cao’s wife said everything that the readers wanted to say in Aicheng.
In “Souten no Koumou,” the scenes where Cao Cao is with his father always leave a strong impression of a good smile, so it felt quite fitting that he expressed being able to take a break under the protection of his parents.
I’m not very knowledgeable about history, so I ended up not really understanding how I came to be in conflict with Yuan Shao.
Even though we’re not related by blood, it seems like I really loved my parents quite normally.
There are parts in the historical dramas that praise Cao Cao’s achievements, so it’s hard to say he is merely portrayed as a villain.
>>96
Well, if you’ve read Romance of the Three Kingdoms enough to write a story about it, you might realize this guy isn’t just trash…
It seems like you really enjoy explaining your intentions and having conversations with your dad, Cao Cao.
My father is the type of person who gets flustered, but I guess he’s trying to get my money! He says this with a smiling face, and we have a good relationship.
When you piece together the depiction of Liu Bei in historical records, there are moments where you think, isn’t this actually Cao Cao?
>>98
I totally understand.
>>98
The use of the lord is similar to manipulation.
>>118
The historical Cao Cao is sitting.
I felt the consideration to not portray Cao Cao as the villain regarding the death of Xun Yu and the area around the State of Wei.
In creating a new image of Cao Cao, it feels like I ultimately ended up avoiding the more pathetic aspects of his character.
It’s as if the author himself was overwhelmed by Cao Cao’s invincibility.
>>100
There are some minor difficulties coming up, aren’t there?
Still, it’s my favorite Romance of the Three Kingdoms manga.
Even in the blue sky, what are you thinking to support Liu Bei so much? Are you trying to kill him? The lack of any follow-up really gets to me.
>>101
“I’ll make you the left general!” I love the part where Seki-san has an amazing expression and goes, “Why!?”
>>110
Maybe they’re really not thinking about anything, and since they have that much capacity, it would be better for both them and the world if they were promptly made to take action.
The blue sky-inspired Kongming didn’t come out.
>>106
I can’t bring it out unless it’s a bait.
>>106
Don’t come out!
Are there any works featuring the dirty Liu Bei coming out from the blue sky?
>>107
Explosive Three Kingdoms
Isn’t this incorporating someone else’s episode in a nice way?
I feel like there are situations like that throughout history.
In the Blue Sky Voyage, Kongming is not treated as well compared to others, right?
>>111
However, the way the fantasy elements of the sorcerer gradually gain a sense of reality is really impressive.
>>111
Isn’t it quite something that a manga centered around Cao Cao is being treated that prominently?
When I think that the character of Sōten Kōmei ultimately sacrifices their life for Shu, it adds a profound depth to the story.
Well, that part won’t be depicted…
There isn’t any character that I dislike, after all.
Maybe it’s because each character has their own moments to shine.
I also like this very human Liu Bei.
I also like bringing the Oath of the Peach Garden at the end.
Kongming had a look like a beautiful girl in the early to mid-game, didn’t he…?
For some reason, I suddenly appeared as a muscular pervert.
A work that shows a penis with the three visits of respect and is treated as a rip-off of Sōten is really too much to handle.
Where that Kongming continues to fight until the end.
I want to see that Sima Yi start a coup.
It seems there are writings in Chinese literature that criticize Liu Bei as a shameless person who flits here and there.
It gives the impression that they incorporated that kind of material as well.
Honestly, I wanted them to write all the way to Gojougen.
I wonder what that part at the end of the timeline where Liu Bei seems to have gone mad is all about.
>>128
It just ended up that way with Mr. Seki’s death being confirmed.
>>128
It’s the part where Guan Yu and Zhang Fei have died, and Sun Quan is going to kill them!!
If Kongming does that, our country will be finished, so stop him.
I wanted to see how the scene of crying and executing Ma Su would be expressed.
This work has many characters that deliberately destroy conventional representations, for better or for worse.
Only Zhang Fei, in contrast to the conventional stereotype of him, has become a rarity in this work.