W-Why… I had a feeling we would win, but our precious people are unexpectedly in big trouble!? The Young Lord Who is Good at Escaping, Chapter 198 The End.
Me when I challenged the gacha.
>>1
I’m going to win → Wh-why… I had a feeling I would win.
Why is my younger brother so strong this time?
>>2
Because Shijaku is hated to the extent of being loathed.
The end of excessive arrogance in the chief steward.
As a result of going too far, the entire clan was safely annihilated.
That said, this guy always says it’s no good, he’s going to lose, right?
>>6
Let’s hear what Taiheiki has to say.
>>7
In the end, after all is said and done, I will win.
When asked why we lost, it’s because Masanori, who was just the household minister within the Ashikaga, openly mocked Shiba (who at that time was Ashikaga) and forced Naoyoshi into retirement, starting internal politics. Isn’t this the eve of usurpation?
Because I went overboard to that extent.
Huh? Everyone thought that a mere vassal of the Ashikaga family shouldn’t have a bigger attitude than those from renowned families, so all of them sided with Naoyoshi.
I lost.
It’s not that he’s especially disliked.
Tadatsune is strangely strong when he is led by Yoshisada and when he is in opposition to Yoshisada.
But after this, I will be the shogun! Please give me a kunriken!
Are you going to achieve a great victory?
This week’s Takashi Jiro was at its peak.
I wonder if I’ll get the rug pulled out from under me by Yoshitoki next week or the week after.
I thought it was a good interpretation that questioned the established theory from back then and a little earlier, which states that “Kamakura was strong in defensive battles,” as one of the reasons for Nobuyoshi’s poor performance in battle.
Wasn’t it supposed to show a huge victory and demonstrate incredible strength afterwards?
On the contrary, I want to ask how that young guy, who is just some low-ranking samurai, could possibly be so popular. It just doesn’t make sense visually.
At least get entwined in this battle for the world.
>>19
Sentences written right after waking up tend to be like this, don’t they?
>>16
The training with the animals was more exciting than ever, so it’s not the young one who’s boring, it’s the blizzard.
>>20
It was my fault for not being able to portray the former snowstorm, which had lost its peak and was reduced to mere dregs, in an attractive way.
There was a setting where Yoshitsune and Nakagou were close, but you know, Shifuyu.
Since they are earning responses with Waka’s story and doing whatever they want with Yoshimitsu, it’s only natural that Yoshimitsu becomes more interesting.
After all, they are the protagonist of this era.
The punchline and the past were weak, or rather.
Despite doing all that, you still don’t have kids?
>>23
If you’re going that far, it would have been fine to have more children, right?
It’s not good to have oddly modern considerations only there.
Militarily, this will be the second peak period for Yoshitomo, right?
>>24
I wish Yoshisue would just enter the Southern Court, sell the shogunate, and kill Nobuyoshi!!!
Even though he did it, the Southern Court is coming to kill him, so Yoshitoki will get seriously angry at Yoshimitsu.
Knock everyone down and win.
>>24
Ashikaga Takauji and Takashira’s defeat & Ashikaga Nariyoshi’s victory conference for rewards and merits.
Chairman: Takauji Ashikaga
Vice Chairman: Naoyoshi Ashikaga
I personally felt that the animal training also tried to create some interest on the protagonist’s side in a flashy way.
Surrounding Waka.
A story of a mob that only has a name.
I don’t care at all.
Is it that we’re gathered because I hate this guy?
>>27
That may be true, but since the governance of Yoshinobu in the past was better reputed, it was only natural that everyone rallied around Yoshinobu.
Even the samurai who are usually by Takashi’s side are joining forces with Naoyoshi, so it’s quite something.
It’s not that Shijaku is more disliked; it’s that Naoyoshi is not popular either.
>>30
It’s nice that it’s fair, but the trial is long, which can be annoying.
In that regard, Yoshiyasu’s ability to make immediate and appropriate judgments was more popular; it was the optimal decision for that era.
That aside, Nariharu was as unpopular as trash.
Blizzard died more easily than I expected.
After this, Tokiyoshi preached the futility of further conflict among brothers and reconciled with Tadaaki.
On the way home, they incited Takanori, the root cause of the conflict, to assassinate the Takahashi brothers and cut off the roots of the fighting.
Ashikaga Takauji asserts that he is the shogun and the architect of the end of the war, taking charge of reward distribution.
The anger of the ruling lord, who pronounced the death penalty for Uesugi, who assassinated his beloved retainer, was calmed by Naoyoshi’s mediation.
>>33
The dark elf Uesugi was not completely unharmed and was likely exiled.
The blizzard has really become a character that I don’t care about at all, huh…
>>34
Isn’t the period of not having a role too long?
Wasn’t it that you left and then showed your face with a mask, only to be left alone in reality for several years?
>>35
Given the way they govern after entering Kanto, there are limits to what can be done…
The relationship with Yoshinaka is very, very…
>>118
With that being the case, it seems like the final showdown between Waka and the feast of Kan’na no Miketsu Murakumo will be wrapped up in just 1 to 2 episodes.
>>34
I think it would have been different if there had been several moments after the separation where we were consciously aware of each other or tried to negotiate.
If the young lord side, or rather the children’s group, can gather more responses, then they should have strengthened that aspect even more.
Last week, there was a scene in the flashback where Shizuku invited Fubuki to dinner, but I felt it was a waste of a precious connection.
>>56
If you have so much to say, you should have let it out last week.
>>57
Last week it was around 20 responses, so…
>>57
A few weeks ago, I already mentioned in the thread about “the hesitant rule of Hojo” due to the blizzard.
The Takahashi brothers were extremely unpopular.
Ashikaga lost for some unknown reason, but the defeated brother managed everything after the war; it doesn’t make sense.
>>37
I want to kill the usurper Shinao, but if I deal with Yoshitsune, it’ll become a really troublesome job at the top that I’ll have to take care of.
Nobody wants to take responsibility.
>>37
Well, they’re Bando warriors (from the Kanto region), yet they’re neglecting the Kanto faction excessively.
That’s why you’ll be disliked…
It’s unfortunate that even with Yoshitsune, there’s no way to improve relations, Naoyoshi…
The No. 2 of the Muromachi shogunate would typically be envied and hindered, leading to a miserable death, a pattern that continues until the next one, Hosokawa Yoriyuki, so this isn’t just a story limited to Masanori and Naoaki.
How much can we expand on the scene where you put up a bit of a fight against the weakened Yoshitoki before being defeated?
In terms of the era, the end is already just around the corner.
However, if you think about it normally, shouldn’t Naoyoshi depose Yoshimitsu and elevate himself or Yoshimitsu’s son?
Why put my brother above again?
Even if I lose, I am still a general.
The Takahashi brothers’ faction seemed to be acting only as if they intended to become the second version of the Hojo family from an outsider’s perspective.
When the expansion phase ended and the Bunsei era began, people came to really dislike him, thinking, “Oh, he’s planning to turn the main family into a remote control.”
At this time, quite a number of warriors were watching the situation until the very last moment, and when it became clear that victory was assured, it was like, “Whoa! Justice is indeed with Lord Naoyoshi!”
During the early years of the Muromachi shogunate, no one wanted to hold the position of shogun, let alone.
By the end of the Kamakura period, there were several houses with a status comparable to that of the Ashikaga’s main line, and the fact that Takauji, who came from a rather unfavorable background, became shogun, along with the precedent of Nitta Yoshisada, who belonged to the Southern Court and gained high rank by fighting against Takauji despite being part of the same family, led to a large number of members of the Ashikaga clan behaving in a way that suggested they might aim for similar opportunities.
Mr. Kiyoshi Hosokawa is a good example.
Isn’t the sense of live experience with opportunism, likes and dislikes, and history incredible?!
>>49
Historical facts don’t require reality.
>>49
There are many people who act for immediate profits, so that’s how it ends up.
>>49
It’s an era where people can die or live over something trivial, or an entire clan can be wiped out, so it’s understandable that one would want to live according to their likes and dislikes.
It’s been like that since around Chiba Sadatane, but even if they switch sides once after aligning with the Southern Court, the Ashikaga don’t have the luxury to punish them.
Thanks to this looseness, we can eventually win, but there are constant betrayals along the way.
The Takahashi brothers, who couldn’t become the Hojo siblings of Yoshitoki and Masako…
>>52
They were thoroughly dealt with because there was a precedent of usurpers.
Thank you, Hojo.
I wonder if this manga will go up until the appearance of Ikkyū Sōjun…
The flow from now on is
In a surprising turn, rather than dealing with the aftermath of the defeat as a general, Yoshimitsu begins to reward and grant honors as the leader of the shogunate.
The story of Naoji obediently following orders without complaint and nearly being beheaded by the heroic Dark Elf Uesugi.
The tale of the Southern Court’s Shiba, Yamana, Sasaki, Waka-kun, and Kusunoki Striker Freedom Masaki organizing the army to defeat the Northern Court’s Takauji.
When everyone gathers for the military council mentioned above, Takauji and Tadayoshi are waiting first as the maximum fighting force.
If the Southern Dynasty cancels the designation of the Northern Dynasty as a rebel, then we don’t need the Northern Dynasty as mere decoration.
Since Yoshitoki abandoned the Northern Court, the Southern Court and Northern Court have united in the Shōhei unification.
The story of how Takauji from the Southern Dynasty was once again excluded, recognized as a rebel, and assaulted from all directions.
The episode in which the young lord asserts the third recovery of Kamakura during the chaos (Occupation period: 9 days)
The story of Lord Kireson attacking enemies from all directions one by one, knocking them all down, and getting the young lord killed.
Tsunetaka, an old man who was a former royal thrown into a temple with some noblewoman around there, is redoing the Neo Koryo Mk-II.
There was a depiction of 〇 people in the blizzard, and the portrayal of Uesugi’s children was quite something this week as well.
The Takao brothers and their family are truly starting to feel like they might meet a splatter-filled end similar to that in Hitchcock’s “The Birds.”
>>60
Because even young children are being murdered.
It was probably the same in historical fact, and it is also the case in the Taiheiki, which is the basis of this work…
Creative works aside, the reality is that I really dislike that person!!!! It’s common for the dust of such feelings to accumulate and lead to a big explosion…
Well, if I were to do that in a creative work, it wouldn’t be persuasive, so I won’t.
Mr. Ota Dokan… I wonder if this will be from a slightly later generation.
>>67
About 100 years later.
Young part-timers say it’s boring, but it’s just the nonsense of old men who don’t submit surveys…
If you have complaints, it’s the readers who can’t team up well enough to produce numbers in the general’s part that are to blame.
>>69
The warrior part is where a creepy old man acts strangely and says, “It’s incomprehensible, right? But this is based on historical facts, so it can’t be helped!”
It’s just that they’re giving up on adding narrative to the strange behavior as a manga.
It will only be appreciated by history-loving uncles who are looking for opportunities to show off their knowledge.
Likes and dislikes are merely a deformation of reality and, in fact, are expressions of emotions resulting from some kind of vested interest.
If the motivations like foresight or self-interest that serve as the basis for actions in a creation are not depicted, it gets criticized for lacking realism…
The one with the most freedom during the Northern and Southern Dynasties is the shogun…
In Dandoon, there was also a part where “everyone is moving without really understanding!” which shows the strength of historical manga.
The author says that the popularity decreases in the warrior part but recovers in the protagonist part.
>>75
Matsui Yuusei himself seems to clearly enjoy writing historical characters more…
The fujoshi causing a ruckus at places like Animan has come over here too.
>>76
It just looks like he’s angry because the blizzard isn’t a narrative topic.
It’s sad about Emperor Gōgūn.
The old man who was taken in by the temple, chanting sutras while being given lettuce by the local auntie.
It was simply pulled out due to the samurai’s convenience, so it is regarded with contempt.
The former emperor (father), former emperor (uncle), former emperor (brother), and prince (brother) were taken to the Southern Court.
They are being looked down upon even more because the authoritative backer has become a noble aunt who is just a relative of theirs.
Due to the lack of money and people, there continues to be a period during which the court cannot sincerely carry out any of the ceremonial duties that need to be performed.
– The court nobles are poking fun at me with words like, “A emperor who doesn’t even possess the Three Sacred Treasures.”
“When I requested to have the three sacred treasures returned to me.”
“The Ashikaga Takauji is the Kusanagi sword, and this Nijō Yoshiyuki and the noble families are the Yata mirror; the unclouded hearts of the people who adore you are the Yaegaki magatama.”
It’s vague and brushed off with some trashy kind of mental philosophy.
The Southern Court is launching an operation to retake Kyoto led by Kusunoki Strike Freedom Masamune.
“I want to surrender to the Southern Dynasty and lighten my burden.”
“Do you really think you have the authority to say that?” while being struck on the head by Ashikaga Yoshiyasu.
Forced to live a life of fleeing to the countryside about three times, then returning to Kyoto whenever there’s a chance.
>>77
Otter…
Emperor Keitai (Aren’t you usurping the main family’s authority from the Yamato dynasty?)
Emperor Antoku (dropped into Dan-no-ura with the Three Sacred Treasures)
Emperor Kōgon – Emperor Go-Kōgon (simply gets totally messed up)
Three Major Crises for the Continuation of the Imperial Family
>>79
It seems.
Ken
I can’t go against historical facts, but if I proceed according to history, it ends up being a composition where the protagonist and the arch-nemesis are fighting separately, which is hard to get into.
If you want to fight against invisible enemies like animanga fans or fujoshi, then start a different thread…
After all, Yoshimitsu is too much of a source of chaos, harassment, and disturbance.
Ashikaga Takauji, a headache for historians.
The Takahashi brothers should have one person left who was directly related to Yoshinobu.
>>86
The third Omoi… it has very few scenes, so it feels very underwhelming.
>>137
One more person.
Brother Master Fuyu (Snowstorm) is also surviving as a faithful supporter of Master Aki in the same faction.
Even the allies turn against you; that’s a remarkable level of being disliked.
>>88
It was unfortunate that they couldn’t become the second Hojo siblings and instead ended up like the second Kajiwara Kagetoki…
Whether good or bad, I hate the Hojo! It’s like having overthrown the Kamakura Shogunate, so there’s no way Morochan and the others, who don’t even try to hide that they’re aiming to become like the Hojo, can be forgiven.
I’m super excited that Miura Hachiro has rejoined!
The harsh reality is that those who only say “the young part is boring!” are trying hard to hype it up, but the survey has consistently shown good results.
Well, it happens sometimes, right? When you’re teasing a serious and annoying guy, you might end up thinking, “This guy is actually disliked, isn’t he? lol”
I ended up being the one who is disliked.
In fact, after the defeat of Kiyokata, the historical events surrounding Takauji are probably quite dull.
From this point on, it will get fun as we enter the whirlwind battle part.
I want to nibble on Tokioki too.
If the political history of the Southern and Northern Dynasties were really that interesting, there would be a lot more creations and games coming out about it.
>>100
It’s unclear what you’re trying to say, but trends come and go; it’s just a matter of timing.
Before the war, the Northern and Southern Dynasties were very popular.
The young part-timer can’t showcase the proud knowledge of the history-loving uncle…
Is Kōgon really a member of the royal family?
The Northern and Southern Dynasties are interesting, but there are too many parts that are hard to accept, and the gap between what society demands and the results is too wide, making it unsuitable for creation…
It might be different from popularity, but during the time when real names couldn’t be revealed, the final boss of the Chushingura was Takeda Nobushige, and he was well-known enough to be a classic heel.
>>106
How does that happen?!
Today, I’ll be peeking at the bath of a noble lady again. I’m a popular person who also draws pictures like “Moro Moro Moro.”
>>139
>>139
If you simply use the incident that shook the shogunate as it is for a popular play, you’ll get scolded.
I avoided applying it to the characters of the Taiheiki, which is a historical event.
>>145
No matter when you hear it, the shamelessness of the kabuki side saying this should be acceptable.
I think it’s amazing how the on-site officials have such a lack of motivation, just saying “Well, that’s fine then.”
>>139
“While tracing the storyline of the Akō incident with ‘Kanadehon Chūshingura,’ it substitutes the names and personalities of the characters with figures from the Nanboku-chō period in order to evade the scrutiny of the Edo Shogunate.”
Takahashi Nao is equivalent to the role of Kira Uenosuke.
>>139
Shioya Hangan (the person who was suspected of being involved with the Southern Court after being NTR’d by Masanao, and was overwhelmed with work) → Salt → Ako Domain
Takashina→Takahashi (the Takakasa family of samurai)→Takake (high-ranking samurai without territory during the Edo period)→Kira Uenosuke
There are too many developments that go “that won’t happen,” making it unsuitable for creation.
The conversation from Nobunaga to Ieyasu is too perfectly arranged.
>>107
The transition from the Warring States to a peaceful era is also a beautiful conclusion.
Honnoji is confusing, but it’s one of the highlights of the Sengoku period.
The popularity of the three great heroes during the Warring States period is excessive, while events from the previous generation or those from other regions don’t seem to be as significant.
>>110
Mōri Motonari, Shimazu, and Date Masamune are from the provinces, but they have always had a popular image.
>>123
I feel that Masamune has quite an influence from the historical drama.
I don’t remember anything I did during my student days.
Both the young part and the Yoshimitsu part are fun, and I’m really grateful that the thread is summarizing the Heike Monogatari and historical facts.
I can’t remember the character’s name.
>>112
Common tropes in historical fiction
In this area, the textbooks summarize the fall of the Kamakura Shogunate → Kenmu Restoration → establishment of the Muromachi Shogunate → Nanboku-chō period in just a few lines.
And then, from the luxurious Kitayama culture of Yoshimitsu, it doesn’t even take a page from the simple Higashiyama culture during the Onin War.
I hope you can be at ease, because shining you is better than peace.
Well, on the contrary, since it’s usually Fujiwara, wouldn’t it be easier to just remember the first names in the Heian period?
It might have been better if the story had developed with my son nearly being a clone of Yoshimitsu, including his younger brother being all “whoa…”
People’s names are a mix of common characters and chosen characters…
What the heck is the Strike Freedom?
>>119
Become the strongest guy in the Southern Dynasties.
I transferred to the North.
Become the strongest guy in North Korea.
I changed jobs to the Southern Dynasty.
In the meantime, I got involved in this petty quarrel that I should have just ignored.
Those who don’t value life will have me to deal with! I’ll evenly go after both and knock them out!
A person who is called “What was that guy?” from both sides.
>>124
Is there no chance to fight alongside Wakakazu and from both the enemy and ally’s perspective?
>>131
The young lord will die before Masanori’s peak.
Chinese people also wonder why the Chu-Han Contention is not as famous as the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.
The modified human Nagao is connected to the blood of the later war god, right?
>>122
Kenshin is from the Nagao clan.
Is this the battle that was rumored to have lost but somehow appeared in the winner’s evaluation and ultimately won?
When I see things like this, I realize that Oda Nobunaga was unusually amazing.
>>128
The national debut and the finale are too spectacular.
I was fighting with the temple the whole time, and it was quite messy, but that impression disappears completely.
>>128
Not particularly.
It’s just the kind of guy who was betrayed by Takauji and died a dog’s death.
>>130
It tends to be portrayed elegantly in creations, but the truth is that dying in the Incident at Honnō-ji is pretty lame.
In the history of Nobunaga, Asai and Asakura are too weak, making Nobunaga appear to be invincible.
>>134
Kinkazaki, I wonder if Nobunaga might have died there.
From the perspective of Asai and Asakura, it could be said that it was the first and last opportunity there…
>>136
If we had been able to collaborate with Hongan-ji even once in the following years, we could have defeated Nobunaga, but it hurts that everything was manipulated by Nobunaga.
Moreover, it’s the lowest and worst way to die, dying together with the legitimate son.
>>135
Nobutada’s uncle, Yūraku-sai, managed to escape cleverly…
It feels like things are so chaotic that maybe the Sengoku period was actually more reasonable and rational…?
Masatsune Kuniki is truly remarkable, inheriting the will of his father and his brother who died early, and for the sake of peace, he fights today’s enemies as well as yesterday’s allies!
So I think I can be the main character of the historical drama, but moving from north to south and then back to north and south is…
Stubborn viewers like grandparents will judge you as a traitor and a coward, so it’s impossible.
>>142
Is that Aslan?
If you’re acting on your own circumstances, then betrayal and such don’t matter at all.
It’s no longer a thread for the young lord, but rather a thread for discussing random trivia.
>>149
Your thread is mostly started with Shizuku or Ayako as the thread image.
Last week, saying that there hasn’t been a thread or that it’s not growing is also a lie or a misunderstanding.
The thread I started has grown.
It becomes strange because you try to evaluate it with the value of opposing camps.
In an era of self-help, it might be better to think that everyone is acting differently based on their individual circumstances.
Shin’s turn will just end after causing a ruckus in Kamakura and being hit back by Takauji…
It seems like Blast is saying something about the snowstorm.
There was a thread last week too, right?
I have a memory of talking about how to use the Oni Heart Buddha Sword like this here.
In this manga, the highlight later on is when the Moro-chan clan, who were captured and transported, attack Uesugi, who is red-faced with rage.
They’re all going to have their heads cut off and be thrown into the river, that’s about it.
Will you do it?
>>159
That’s why it’s the Uesugi Jr. rabid dog brother transformation, so they’ll probably do it.
Is the territory of Uesugi somehow related to Mordor, where a dark elf child turns into a goblin?
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