In the end, what happened to the conclusion of the main storyline…?

You probably returned to reality, having only transferred the message from your creation.

The ending was kind of unsatisfying, wasn’t it?

It would have been nice if it felt like Doraka-chan was alive.

>>8

Are you an idiot?

Send the pigeons flying.

I wonder if that somehow connected or not.

It’s kind of strange that it’s really just a coincidence that Albert learned about the heliocentric theory.

I suppose that’s what makes it good.

– The fact that Raphael’s life or death was unrelated to the final letter being delivered (the heliocentric theory research was progressing).

– In this reality, the research and various aspects of the characters never made it to the public stage (only the letters were delivered, and the book was not published).

I think the last episode wanted to convey that those who pursue the heliocentric theory are just garbage!

>>6

It’s not about the heliocentric theory or anything like that, but rather the monopolization of knowledge that had me pissed off, so it’s Raphael who’s the problem.

It’s not a place, it’s a matter of knowledge, right?

It’s the main character, Bakusan, right?

Personally, I think it’s a world where Novak, who confessed that he wouldn’t have persecuted the heliocentric theory, is absent.

In the end, it’s not Novak that’s at fault, but the driving force of the thread image that’s the key.

Either way, Rafau was psycho.

It was an anime that you could enjoy contemplating and making predictions, so enjoy it until the end.

That is knowledge.

I interpret that the story before Alberto appears is all about a world where anything might have been possible.

The OP direction feels similar to that.

Hiding it because it’s dangerous won’t help.

That said, being reckless is not acceptable either.

So, what should we do? Learn from our mistakes and keep exploring.

The stories from each era might have been parallel to each other.

It is the earth, it is blood, and it is knowledge.

?

It looks interesting, but it seems kind of gory, so I haven’t watched it…

I like the overall look of the eyes.

In actual reality, what is rotating is not the Earth, but the celestial bodies.

>>26

It’s all of it.

Saying something unnecessary

>>27

Snakes are like that…

Even if the theme of the final chapter is the presentation of the dangers of excessive knowledge pursuit and its overcoming, there was no need for the tutor to resemble Rafau, and the heretical liberation front has already sufficiently demonstrated it through their killings, so it’s pointless to think about why they chose to resemble him.

I think the story after he died is superfluous because it is Novak’s story.

I like the theory of Raphaël Christ.

>>32

I think that’s definitely going too far.

The story seems to have ended with the conversation between Novak and his final illusion, Raphael.

The tutor Rafau B only exists in Alberto’s memory, so it has nothing to do with Rafau A.

I think it’s really beautiful as a story about Novak.

It’s a story that enjoys the absurdity of arguing whether the heliocentric or geocentric theory is correct while still holding onto the mistaken premise that the Earth is round.

>>36

Flat Earth believers have heretical thoughts.

That ending was nice too, but I couldn’t help but laugh when Rafau just got caught and faded out.

>>38

I think this one too.

It’s easier to understand that he’s a person who is greedy for knowledge rather than bringing in someone I don’t know at this point.

It was a really interesting anime.

It’s a godly anime.

>>41

Take it back right now!!!!!

>>41

Huh? (Sudden serious face)

The ending gives off a feeling of having been defeated by the argument that the geocentric theory wasn’t really persecuted that much.

>>42

I already knew that before the serialization started, so it doesn’t really matter.

>>45

I see.

So those who were getting involved were being manipulated?

It’s insane to be tortured just for studying the heliocentric theory in such a country.

>>43

In fact, this area is being debated among historians.

While there were certainly people who were considered heretics and persecuted or executed, it seems that it wasn’t so tightly restricted that research couldn’t even be conducted publicly.

In the confusion of the direction in the creation, viewers are left with a “?” and deliberately mixing that with the theme of this work’s “?” to say “goodness, they don’t understand the theme” is, honestly, beyond positivity, I think that person is the one who understands the least in this thread.

It’s the scene of Raphael in the burning flames of the OP! I was thinking that, and then it appeared in the main part, and it was no good.

You have a face like a final boss.

>>51

For Novak, it’s like a puppet master…

But it’s nice that the necklace, which disappeared at the end of the opening, comes out of Alberto’s hand…

I love the feeling of the previous protagonist and final boss in Rafau.

Actually, the heliocentric theory was included in the university curriculum back then, so it’s not really a taboo.

Those who are imprisoned and executed invariably have serious charges unrelated to the heliocentric theory.

The person who reported Osaka Ohsho for slugs received a prison sentence because they were on probation for a different matter, and they are making a fuss, saying it’s the corruption of the health department! Their reasoning is the same as that of fools; there are appropriate reasons to punish those who can be punished.

It seems that Copernicus wasn’t subjected to that much oppression.

>>58

That’s the reverse of the causal relationship.

It wasn’t suppressed because it wasn’t published until just before death.

The published book became banned after the Galileo trial.

Even though there were mysterious things until then, it was just hallucinations at the moment of death, but suddenly lowering the reality line leaves a bit of room for unreasonable interpretation, which is troublesome.

I thought it was a bit dismissive to brush it off as parallel because it’s a topic that involves a lot of considerations.

Didn’t it get chaotic at the time of the final episode?

>>60

There were quite a few mixed opinions.

I mean, it’s being reproduced just like that right now.

I understand what you ultimately want to do, but I think there’s no point in bringing out Rafał just to cause confusion.

What must not be forgotten is that those who advocate the heliocentric theory often do not fully prove the heliocentric theory.

Those who couldn’t answer logically but used it to criticize the church system are no different from a cult.

>>62

The Heretical Liberation Front seems like a cult.

>>67

It’s not just wanting to see it, it’s exactly that!

The author probably aims for mixed opinions and would be happy about it.

I thought there might be people who couldn’t understand that it had a theatrical feeling.

The same as Ikuni’s anime.

Well, it’s a shame to have everything ruined after doing suspense until now.

The story that the heliocentric theory was either heavily suppressed or not suppressed at all is completely wrong, so let’s make sure to understand that properly.

I think the reader’s ??? and the character’s ? in this case have different meanings…

I think it’s unreasonable to say that combining those things and their incomprehensibility is exactly what the author wanted to convey!

It would have been better if Rafau hadn’t shown up at the end, but that guy is just the source of confusion.

>>72

If it’s completely unrelated, it would make me wonder what all the previous discussion was about…

I love this anime.

>>73

It’s a divine anime!

In the first place, theologians are really doing a lot of study.

It’s unthinkable to be tortured and executed just for conducting certain research.

>>74

So that’s a lie too, you know.

Bruno is being executed in a really brutal way, isn’t he?

>>79

He was the only one executed for the heliocentric theory, and it’s not solely the heliocentric theory that was the reason.

>>89

No, do you really think you’re defending your own foolishness with that…?

I feel like it’s a lack of thaumazine to easily conclude it’s parallel.

There is also the matter of the letter to Pototsuki-san.

>>75

Although Professor Rafau was not involved, I was contemplating that there might have been similar events to the heliocentric theory in the P Kingdom… just to that extent.

Is it explicitly stated to be parallel?

In the end, the letter arrived, so isn’t it continuous?

>>78

Rafau was a zombie…?

>>85

I think it’s someone else with a character description omitted under the name Rafau.

Isn’t it similar to when performers sometimes are the same in theater?

It can only be discarded in parallel.

Rather, I honestly think “huh?” when it comes to parallel performances, but since there’s no other option, it can’t be helped.

I just considered the religion.

It’s possible that instead of being parallel, the books and letters are connected just because Mr. Rafau is not Rafau.

It’s not about the pros and cons of the heliocentric theory, but rather the mixed reactions to the sudden revival of Raphael; I don’t think it was intended that way, right?

I had been using fictional country names all along, but in the end, I ended up using a real country and person.

If they are not completely unrelated, I guess we have no choice but to think of them as parallel.

There was also a theory that Rafau actually wasn’t dead.

>>88

There’s no reason to keep living…

>>88

Rather, it’s something that anyone who saw Raffo for the first time would naturally think.

Because I have to deny it as soon as I think about it, it ends up like this, becoming something incomprehensible.

It’s too much of a masterpiece…

There are some occasional gag scenes, which is funny.

>>92

World Champion～～～～～～

I think it goes against the theme that something born from the wisdom of knowledge seekers, like detailed observational data as historical fact, has emerged through individual effort.

If the author had a deeper understanding of religion, it could have become a masterpiece.

Have I been shooting based on a misunderstanding all this time…?

>>104

That aside, it feels like Mr. Novak is being a bit of a troll by blowing up the thread…

>>109

I was the villain of this thread…

The bulletin board is a very ugly place, so we should think about things after we go to heaven.

It feels rare to see a work that depicts gods and religion so positively.

If only the tutor weren’t Raphael, it would end smoothly…

>>108

But if it weren’t for Rafal, it wouldn’t leave much of an impression.

There are aspects where being Rafau can express that the pursuit of knowledge has dangerous sides, right?

>>114

Personally, I feel that because of Rafau, I was too distracted by that, making it harder to convey such things in the opposite way.

I understand that you want the readers and viewers to have a “?” in their minds, but…

It’s a bit much to argue that thinking about an ending, which can easily be perceived as abandoning the conclusion, is merely a cop-out…

>>110

The conclusion, as a work, was explained very carefully with dialogue, right!?

I think it would be explained if it were a play within a play before Albert…

It’s enough just to make them say that such a thing existed.

I felt that the work conveyed everything, including the realization about the misunderstanding that the heliocentric theory was not persecuted.

It’s a demon… I’m being tempted by the demon of the jar…

It is more beautiful to be born from a jar here.

Just by having the name and face of Rafau, you can basically understand the character.

I think it’s smarter to kill the new character’s parent than to have a new character from there.

>>119

It’s not smart at all because it’s causing confusion…

Responses are like a miracle.

Even if it’s just that the image of Raphael is superimposed for the sake of the readers’ understanding, it feels utterly ridiculous that Novak is envisioning that.

If it’s parallel, then it’s parallel.

If it’s a star system, then it’s a star system.

The vision of the dying moments seen by Novak.

It’s probably problematic that the theories around here are all mixed up.

A manga that is like modern art.

At the point where Doraka-chan and the strange mustached man start to talk eloquently about their personal philosophies,

I wondered why this is a manga…

That hairstyle is historically accurate.

>>125

What’s with that black and white hair?

If the final chapter could be omitted, I feel like it would have been a lot more satisfying if there had been a bit more to Duraka.

>>127

Because I died satisfied…

The Duraka chapter is more intense with Novak… but it can’t be helped.

I thought it was ridiculous for the homeless to have tattoos on their heads.

I don’t think everyone can wear Hat-chan, and I’m sure it will be found out afterwards…

I’m really sorry for saying this, but I keep mistaking it for Arshubel.

I still don’t understand the meaning of having Rafau as the tutor, even after reading various analyses floating around on the internet.

Someone please explain it clearly.

>>134

There is no answer; I’ve taught you up to this point, so let’s take the stance of thinking for yourself.

>>137

Hmm, I don’t understand it at all.

>>137

If you make one mistake here, it’s dangerous to adopt the stance of relying on the fact that well-meaning readers will infinitely try to meet you halfway…

>>137

I hate this! BANG!

>>134

The reason it’s hard to understand even after reading the analysis is that each person is desperately trying to convince themselves of their own unreasonable arguments.

In other words, everyone doesn’t understand that it’s just a fight over “Oh dear… they don’t understand the author’s intention… it’s like this.”

>>144

Since the author hasn’t stated it explicitly, there’s really no definitive answer.

>>144

It’s like the C church fighting over interpretations of the Bible.

It feels like a parallel or a creative story, and suddenly in the last two episodes, it’s based on historical facts.

When Rafau appears, the first thing is, “Huh!? Rafau was alive!?” There wasn’t really any depiction that made me think that… so it would be hard to concentrate since I’d be distracted by that thought…

I think it was the source of confusion.

What is needed for a tutor is a runaway pursuit of knowledge, so I don’t think it has to be Rafau.

Without Rafau, there may have been many people who casually watched and flowed through the story from Dullyka without any hesitation, as if it were just a continuation.

>>139

No, the story is completely continuous, right?

Why are you thinking of it separately?

>>145

Before Albert, it was just a feeling that such a disappeared history might have existed.

>>139

Isn’t it fine if it’s continuous? I mean, if it’s not continuous, then what is the letter about?

I feel that not explicitly stating the country names or constellation names until the final episode is particularly lacking.

>>141

I wonder if it’s because everyone except Albert-kun isn’t a historical figure.

>>141

What has been connected through the life relay from the first heretic, an imaginary character, to Lafauokujipadeni Yorentaduraka is

Isn’t it a setup that ultimately leads to Albert Brzeziński in Kraków, Poland in 1468?

I was prepared for the final development, but I think the author has run out of ideas after the Duraka arc.

You are too obsessed with Rafau.

How much information could the pigeon carry!

Mr. Raphael’s indifference to murder is too influenced by the blank years he experienced after his death, making him vastly different from child Raphael. He appears in flashbacks with a brief role leading straight to his arrest, and it’s too confusing to grasp what he’s thinking.

Is it intentional that Rafau and Novak’s hairstyles resemble a 7:3 split?

The author was also studying historical facts while drawing, so I don’t think you need to think too deeply about it.

It’s fine to say that the author failed to conclude it properly.

>>157

Well, that’s true.

The author’s intended direction in their mind did not get across to the readers or viewers.

The reader’s “?” regarding the tutor Rafau and this theme’s “?” are separate.

I prefer works that don’t provide easy answers… Nowadays, there are many works that want to explain everything.

There isn’t just one answer, so isn’t it fine if everyone shares their thoughts as their answers?

Well, I don’t think it’s a big deal if there are people who say that it’s the author’s negligence that can’t be forgiven.

I often see someone who is so fixated on Professor Rafau that they abandon any thought regarding the letters from the friend-killing priest and Duraka.

The theme of the work and the answer itself are clearly explained.

If it was interesting that wise people worked hard to seek the truth of this world, then the author’s next work, where foolish people seek the truth of this world and spin their wheels, FDCT, is also interesting, so please read it.

I can’t help but speculate that the readers wanted to come together and fight over the ultimate considerations I thought up.

I think I’ll research the theory that people talking about parallels haven’t watched the final chapter.

“I like that there is something worth pondering between the lines.”

“It’s not great to think that if we don’t reflect on it, the time spent with this work will be wasted.”

The examination of heretical works must be suppressed…

>>170

That way of interpreting things is already a sickness…

>>174

What’s so funny?

Rather, it’s strange not to find meaning in the fact that, despite emphasizing the fictional world of C Church in the P Kingdom throughout the work, only the final chapter mentions real names.

>>182

I’m talking about anime.

That’s irrelevant.

I think it’s fine to have any impression, just that the way the conclusion was handled was a bit lacking.

There are troublesome people who want to talk about how you all don’t understand.

The current “?” is because I’m confused.

Yes, that “?” is exactly as the author intended! You are truly now in the author’s trap! It’s somewhat ridiculous for a reader who is not the author to say this.

Just looking here is wasting time.

>>175

I can sense the desire to rationalize things somehow, but it feels like none of them are convincing.

Acknowledging the existence of the Piast Duke’s astronomical observation records would render the background of Tycho Brahe’s astronomical observation records, which were built on the latest technology, knowledge, vast funds, and power, incomprehensible.

The history surrounding the Piast Duke must be hidden, as it would be far too much of an over-technology, so it’s fantasy.

>>177

Hey, Novak.

If it was indeed a parallel scenario, the fact that the letter was delivered in the end means that a similar incident occurred, so whether it’s parallel or not doesn’t really matter much.

Rafau would never commit murder!

Shall we…?

Maybe I’ll do it…

I remember that the thread that was created after the original work concluded was chaotic, but after actually watching it until the end…

Well, it ended in a way that made it obvious everyone had things they wanted to say.

At that time, however, P country and Poland were not on the same side, as if they were from different factions, regardless of the theme of the discussion.

I wonder if it’s appropriate to be in a situation where there’s endless argument over how to understand the worldlines of that premise.

>>181

The readers and viewers are confused because we’ve strayed from the topic.

Some people said, “That’s exactly it, isn’t it? That’s the very essence of this work!” But I couldn’t help but think, “No, that’s definitely different from the theme…”

The world of the unnamed is conveniently unfinished.

If the world line changes at the end, then what was all the previous story about?

The P Kingdom C Church looks troublesome as it seems like an accusation made without revealing the opponent’s name.

>>186

Sure! It’s the Christ religion!

It’s better to go against the trend to get more replies… I understand that feeling of wanting attention.

>>188

Because there are mixed opinions, I don’t know what is following the trend and what is going against it.

Don’t let your heart become like Novak.

Even if it’s a work that doesn’t particularly have much discussion or excitement about it,

“I think it’s dangerous to even momentarily reach the thought that ‘I understand this work better than anyone else here.'”