But I hardly remember the conversation…

Is it the one who tries to strangle and kill children?

This is right after Genshiken.

It’s tough!

>>4

I have strong memories of my birth being dark and dull.

I remember having a thought like, “Do we really need a setting where the baby’s father seemed to have a harem in his lifetime?”

>>4

It was the same guy as the author of Genshiken…

It was probably an abbreviation for “after princess.”

The second generation had the leisure to say whether something was interesting or boring.

This is just incredibly exhausting.

>>9

Well, given the content, it can’t be helped.

>>10

I’m also drawing Spotted Flower during the serialized thread.

>>15

This was also terrible…

Many in their 40s, raised by Kio Shimoku, Hiroki Endo, and Hiroaki Samura, have become worthless adults.

>>17

Gums are a source of healing.

>>22

This refreshing feeling… refreshing feeling!

I stopped reading halfway, but do they end up killing the child in the end?

Samura is better than SM and vomit.

I had been following EDEN since my 20s to 30s, but I didn’t know what the story was about or how it ended…

I don’t know of any other manga that depicts babies as adorably as this one.

After all, it’s a magazine that kindly accepts even the worthless people, or rather, it’s a magazine about worthless things.

>>23

I wonder if it will be like that, maybe.

What kind of real life made me want to draw something like this?

The impression that the after crowd around here smoothly moved to paradise.

Asari Yoshito or something.

I don’t know if I should call it Samura’s vocabulary, but I want to learn from his ability to carry on a conversation with such lightheartedness; I wonder if anyone can imitate that.

>>26

Wife

>>26

The current radio stuff is amazing, isn’t it?

That keeps the pace going.

It seems to be based on the author’s personal experiences, but I can’t relate to it at all…

Because my child is incredibly cute.

>>29

The problem is that if you just turn it into a manga as it is, it’s like saying, “What do you want me to do with this!”

Spotted Flower is a manga where Madarame and Saki get married, Madarame has an affair with a TS woman (formerly a man), and Sasahara is dating Ogiue, but Ogiue has a lesbian cheating partner, while Sasahara wishes to have a threesome with those three. It’s like a hellish kind of manga.

>>28

Is it still continuing?

>>32

It’s continuing.

>>35

I only have volume 1, but it seems like it becomes like that…

>>39

The more you like Genshiken, the more it’s like a hellish manga.

In Spotted Flower, it’s clear that the wife is increasingly struggling with motherhood, which shows just how much she must have disliked parenting.

Sasahara is pressured by his parents and sister, asking “When are you getting married?” Meanwhile, Ogiue is in a lesbian affair with a blonde woman and is dating Sasahara, but has no intention of breaking up with her.

Rather than depicting a deliberately corrupt relationship, it feels eerily natural with a strange sense of ethics in Kio Shimoku’s manga.

I only know the earlier parts of Genshiken, so I’m amazed at how detailed Anonymous is.

Are you cheating on Sue?

>>44

un

You’re becoming plump and curvy.

I’m not looking for that kind of thing from either Ogiue or Sasahara!

Genshiken is famous, but this type of work by this author is actually quite rare…

The paradise is… “the cutting edge of romance comics”…

>>50

There are only weird comics that have nothing to do with romance!

Before his middle age, Anno also depicted similar murky themes.

I can’t help but think that perhaps this generation is the last one that grew up familiar with daytime dramas.

Osamu Tezuka was also a movie kid, so he depicted many bad ends and bitter ends during the post-war Italian film neorealism and the subsequent new cinema era.

The often criticized second generation feels like a much better work after reading “Spotted Flower,” as the feelings of the protagonist are consistently conveyed and there’s a definite conclusion.

>>52

The second generation lacks enough psychological portrayal of Madara and Su after their achievements, resulting in insufficient catharsis.

Sasahara, Ogiue, and Sue from Spotted Flower.

>>53

Is this interesting…?

Even if we make it messy, if we’re getting along in this kind of lukewarm way, it doesn’t seem very realistic.

It’s like the author loves Madara too much.

Lovelovelove Alien is really interesting, isn’t it?

I wonder what Huguki is doing right now.

>>59

I went to the signing event in Ikebukuro… it was like a mix of Arida from Kurimu Shichu and Tsuchida from U-turn.

I don’t recognize that blonde woman as Su.

The second generation that gets talked about a lot also likes the confession part of Banmatsu.

The words from that time were not the typical confession phrases, but rather the part about having nose hair that I couldn’t say back then, and the part about going drinking with Kugi and Pi after being rejected.

If I had drawn the baby cuter, it might have been a little better.

Due to the cancellation, it remained a story that was somehow unclear.

>>65

I can understand, but I feel like it would be meaningless if that were the case regarding this manga.

>>74

Is that so?

I think it’s completely normal to depict even a cute baby evoking feelings of murder.

>>75

Not there.

Depictions and opinions that say “girl is erotic!” are not allowed.

Those who try to kill babies are treated solely as lunatics who try to kill babies.

Well, someone who’s trying to kill their own child wouldn’t hesitate to go after the more talented and vibrant children of other families.

>>79

???

>>75

I think that part is consciously chosen by the author to express their reality…

When it first came out, it had an impact with its artistic skill and novelty.

The characters and dialogue are also skillful.

It’s a strange feeling that Nibutani Tsutomu has become quite a major figure.

I thought it was narrow-minded to see that even though the author is saying that it’s a secondary creation and is drawing erotic content on the support site, it wasn’t accepted and ended up in an uproar.

Thinking about it, I can’t really make fun of you because I also can’t accept spotted flower…

>>69

I think it’s natural that if the author is drawing, it won’t just be settled with fan art…

It’s one thing if it’s common, but it’s a super rare case.

>>71

I wonder if there are concepts like the world of pachislo and social games, or R18 version route branching… somewhere.

Even if it’s by the same author, it’s like the difference between hair loss and fertilized eggs.

>>69

If it’s a standalone illustration, I don’t mind if the author draws it themselves, but when it’s in a manga format with a well-developed story, it can be quite tough.

I can’t help but think about what that was in the main story.

Even with a spotted flower, it must have really hated parenting…

>>78

I’m fed up with how it’s just a kid fully displaying heavy traits of Asperger’s and ADHD, even just picking up on the specific points described or grabbing the pieces of the story spilling out.

It seems like the author has a preference for drawing homosexual relationships in Spotted Flower and the second generation, but treats 3P as an absolutely unacceptable and abnormal fetish.

It’s just that I want to eliminate it because it’s a source of stress.

It’s not because I hate children.

Why do you have the intention to kill someone else’s child?

It’s surprising that even though there are harnesses, ordinary kids aren’t like that, and it’s hard for people to realize and accept it…

I surprisingly see quite a few parenting men who are on hard mode, holding caterpillars like Mochi-chan, U-chan, or Mi-chan while being a bit out of it.

I should have realized from the fact that you were quoting a non-existent response above.

I wonder if they wanted it to end up like an erotic game harem.

I just found out that Spotted Flower is still ongoing.

A manga where many people were lured by a breastfeeding scene.

I’ve never thought babies are cute in my life, so I can relate.

It’s stressful to have a presence that you need to protect, not just because of appearances.

Well, it might change again if I have children.

>spotted flower

Is this still ongoing in the latest installment after doing some research?

If you’re a university student, that might be understandable, but if you’re still being decadent after that, isn’t it just foolish?

>>94

Yes

Only Ohno is a mother of two children, and she has not become a parenting neurotic; she has impressive large breasts.

Of course, your own child and someone else’s child are different…

>>95

I wonder if that’s how it is… I mean, I have never simply felt that babies are cute in terms of their shape.

I just lightly researched the manga of the current thread, and it’s depicted in a very lewd manner, but I can understand certain things…

>>99

Well, there are parents who kill their own children, and some people just can’t accept it no matter what.

Just because I have never found other people’s children cute doesn’t mean my own child won’t be.

>>99

It’s an extreme example, but there are cases where a divorce happens immediately after discovering infidelity.

It’s pointless to expand a sensitivity that just dislikes other people’s babies.

It’s been about 10 years since Genshiken (it’s said that Sasahara has been dating Ogiue for 10 years), yet somehow Madarame still has complicated feelings, feeling inferior about Saki when he reunites with Kōsaka.

In order to blow away that complex, Sakura had an affair with a man while she was hospitalized after giving birth.

Well, to be honest, since the original and those pictures from the threads…

It feels like I’m drifting away because it seems like you’re not really wanting to see the reality when it comes to the unpleasantness.

I got the impression that it only picks up on malice excessively.

>>101

Since it’s based on the author’s real experiences, I think it’s more about genuinely disliking parenting rather than being sensational.

The mother in the thread isn’t filled with murderous intent because she finds her child unattractive.

It seems like I feel pressured to do parenting perfectly because I’m serious and a perfectionist.

The line that expresses “adorably cute but desperately wanting to kill” is emblematic.

I think it’s a manga that depicts exactly the kind of situation where that cute filter comes off.

If the filter comes off when the mother feels murderous intent, that would make sense as a portrayal, but it’s tough for the readers if she remains ugly the whole time!

Sasahara is still being swept away as usual, isn’t he?

Is volume 2 cancelled?

I feel like there was also something about the husband being dead.

The thread image is boring, plus it’s still only 5 months old.

In a year, I’ll have forgotten everything by then.

>>112

I understand the neurosis, but it’s too early for them to become human-like, so what was that all about…

A senior mom said to me, “I forgot all the hard things about raising kids,” and I thought, “I can’t believe that’s true…” but in the end, isn’t that exactly what it is?

Child-rearing is tough, but once you get past the peak…

There are definitely people who end up drawing things like this when they’re on a parenting high… that’s the feeling I got.

Unpleasant manga

The relationships in Genshiken were also uncomfortable, but it’s impressive that I only felt this bad from reading the manga.

Unlike those who depict it provocatively while understanding, I see some people who don’t understand that this is disliked, so I decide not to get involved.

The second season of Genshiken was interesting even though it was unpopular among the anonymous, but I couldn’t handle Digopuri and Spofura either.

Children are in a realistic style while adults are in a cute manga style; it might be some intentional irony, but I couldn’t really understand it.

How much did you hate parenting?

The afternoon manga I liked were “Jimai Shin” and “Blue World.”

The choir thing was rather interesting, though.

It’s like a vaccine, right?

It might be a bit too harsh.

Hiroki Endo is currently writing a proper martial arts manga, right!

I thought that, but what’s with the analysis level of the stuck-up delinquents in the countryside?