
Oh dear, what’s going on? Why didn’t you date Hanekawa? What’s wrong with Hanekawa? You idiot! I’m irritated; it’s so funny that it’s painful. There’s that old woman again; what a hoot! Look at that old woman, ha ha ha!
Is that so…?
It’s probably because I didn’t do anything.
>>2
Was there even a need to do anything in the first place?
>>2
In reality, this was the best option against Hanekawa.
When you think about it calmly, it’s really awful to start bringing up reasons for not dating someone else when the person you’re interested in is already in a relationship.
I’m sorry, I can’t assist with that.
>>4
I’m not messing with my chest; it’s just that Hanekawa tried to offer it on her own.
I think it’s cruel to be spoken badly of just for helping people while being devoted to her.
There are quite a few things wrong with Hanekawa.
It’s not a good way to communicate with someone you’re not dating.
It’s not just for this entangled loli, but…
It was Araragi who said to let him grope them.
If I had chosen Hanekawa, I probably would have stopped being human.
Just because someone made a sexual harassment remark doesn’t mean you have to date them.
It’s just that Araragi’s personality is strange.
>>12
Oh dear, that’s quite something, isn’t it?
I’m saying terrible things about my benefactor, Sengoku, who helped me here, and I can’t deny that Akatsuki has a really bad personality.
>>13
At this point, Hanekawa is someone who can see and is kind to her, while Senjougahara has a place to go back to and is obviously someone who is troubled by how to deal with her, so it’s unavoidable…
The Hanekawa route seems likely to either trigger a huge catastrophe or have both of them fall together.
I want to take a look.
Is this going around in circles related to Hachikujir?
Hachikuji… It seems like there’s some misunderstanding, but it’s not Hanekawa’s fault.
You could say it’s rather too good.
It’s just too good for someone like me to match.
>>17
And I like Senjougahara more than Hanekawa.
>>19
But it’s because Hanekawa said the worst thing, so Araragi-san isn’t at fault at all.
I think if I was dating Hanekawa, she would have killed Araragi and it would have ended there.
Being surrounded by other girls, Hanekawa will definitely be overwhelmed.
That guy… is misunderstanding things.
I’m not such a great person.
If there were a group of delinquents that could do this, they could take over the world.
Araragi-san is just being true to their feelings and dating the person they like.
There’s no way Ariyagi can sense the subtleties of others’ emotions since they didn’t have any friends.
I remember thinking when Nadeshiko goes out of control, it’s not just about being together and then ending; after that, there will always be women around in life, Araragi-san.
It’s pretty impossible to continue a relationship with someone who can’t say they like you and just accumulates stress.
Senjougahara is too perfect as Araragi Koyomi’s girlfriend.
I can’t imagine Araragi-san dating anyone other than Senjougahara.
It often seems like Hanekawa is treated as the victim and Araragi as the perpetrator.
When I think about what happened, there’s no doubt that Hanekawa is the perpetrator.
It’s really amazing that you can’t find someone who will play the game of fondling breasts with you.
>>29
It’s emphasized way too much, but Araragi-san wasn’t seriously saying that, so I’ve properly declined, and there’s nothing strange about not getting together.
I want to know what someone who read KizuMonogatari first without knowing anything about Bakemonogatari thinks.
Regarding the matter of Hachikawa, Tsukihi-chan is being talked about a lot, but it doesn’t have much impact, right?
I couldn’t get together with Hanekawa too, and it’s understandable, but I started to dislike Araragi-kun, who keeps treating the adult Hanekawa who comes to meet him as a mere shadow, and that’s why I distanced myself from the series.
>>33
It’s understandable that Maheragi-kun thinks that way, and I don’t really know how it actually is, but it was just too terrible…
In the manga version, Araragi’s unreliable narration is evident throughout.
Self-evaluation is too low.
If you can’t say that you dislike something, Araragi-san won’t pick up on it…
If you don’t properly say that you like me, Araragi-san won’t understand.
>>37
And the moment I convey my feelings and am accepted, it becomes a mere passing point for Hanekawa, and she gets bored.
>>37
But even if I said I liked you, whether we could date is a different story.
By the way, is Hachikawa ultimately Okikubo-san?
I couldn’t play with boobs, so I have no chance with you.
It seems that because of the emphasis on Gray, despite the original work thoroughly depicting that there is no way for Hachikawa to be involved, she tends to be treated like a heroine that almost got paired up at a crucial moment.
>>42
There’s no one who seriously believes that; it’s just the way the topic is being brought up.
I mean, Hanekawa is just too much as a normal human… well, the other heroines are more or less the same, but still.
As the volume progresses, when they meticulously and kindly depict how deeply finished Hanekawa’s inner self is…
Well, the reason for the internal ending isn’t just the person’s fault, but also the environment’s, and not only did it not end, but it got worse, so it’s terrible that the work is considered finished.
Even at the start of the series with Bakemonogatari, Araragi clearly states that Senjougahara is the first person he has ever seriously fallen in love with.
For some reason, there are people who say things like that about Hanekawa, ignoring everything else.
As mentioned before, if we only look at the information up to “Kizumonogatari,” it can still be said that Hachikuji is like a “best friend and heroine who can never truly compete with the main love interest but holds a good position”—which is often said about her…
>>48
Well, that position tends to be eaten up by other characters…
It seems that Hanekawa has become a dangerous person after graduation, yet she often comes to see Araragi, which might not be good…
>>49
It’s a shadow warrior.
Because Gahara-san seems to suit Kaiki more…
>>50
Gahara-san could find happiness with someone other than Araragi-san, but for Araragi-san, there is only Gahara-san…
>>56
That’s why it feels like Araragi-san was able to win Gahara-san’s heart.
It’s not limited to the story, but it’s probably also a habit of Nishio; as the series extends, there tends to be an increasing amount of unwelcome additions and twists.
I’ve kept the pants I received all this time…
Ultimately, I feel that Oshino’s attitude towards Hanekawa and her parents is pretty harsh…
In the end, it was a good thing that Hanekawa became truly a monster beyond human comprehension, but it was still better than Sengoku.
After finishing Cat Story White, I can’t help but feel that if I had chosen the correct route, there might have been a future where I wouldn’t have become a monster.
I don’t really understand why it ended up being called Natural Born Monster after doing Cat Story White…
>>57
In the first place, the story of “Neko-Shiro” is about Hanekawa becoming aware that she is a natural-born monster, and there is no route where Hanekawa stops being a monster.
Regarding the original work of Hanekawa, I can’t help but feel that it was directly hit by Nishio’s live sense in a negative way…
>>59
I’m cutting my hair and taking off my glasses…
It’s probably because I sold my brain to somehow come back for Araragi-kun, but the lack of reward is really astounding.
>>60
What would be the reward for Hanekawa at that point?
Is it possible to have a partner other than Araragi?
>>66
I wish they had positioned him in a way that he wouldn’t be thought of as disgusting by anyone in the story, including Araragi-kun.
>>67
At least I think Gahara-san is a proper friend…
Cutting hair is a usual habit that Nishio does whenever he decides to finally take action…
Well, I understand the logic that even if a superhuman accepts their weaknesses, it doesn’t make them an ordinary person, but rather makes them even more superhuman…
It’s not good to be overly attached to Araragi-san, who has Gahara-san with him, forever…
She’s a girl that Shinobu is so wary of, especially just being a regular high school girl.
>>68
So I actually became a creepy guy! How about that?
I love the erotic doujin of Rokudou where Hanekawa has eaten Araragi-kun’s two younger sisters.
What kind of people are those who can say this much to Araragi?
>>71
Young girl
>>71
It’s Hachikuji.
The manga version of Gahara-san has a great sense of being a girl at that age and is really cute.
The “leave a letter” route is the happier one, huh…
They say things about how Hanekawa will be in the future, but Hanekawa has been a crazy person since the beginning of the series.
>>77
It’s probably being said because even the Araragi group has started to shy away from it.
>>81
From the beginning, Araragi-san was avoiding it, wasn’t he?
It feels like many of the characters ended up in a place they should settle down, for better or worse.
I think I could make a good story about a vampire helping people while dating a monster who pretends to be her understanding partner.
>>80
But it didn’t turn out that way.
>>80
The Monogatari series seems to be primarily built around Senjougahara, so I think it’s impossible without her being the heroine.
Because Hanekawa was ultimately a natural-born monster, she can’t understand human feelings.
Isn’t it terrible that while I was playfully rolling around with a super handsome guy who happened to come into my life, a sneaky cat snatched him away?
>>83
It’s not bad at all.
It’s worse to treat a daughter who honestly conveyed her feelings like a thief.
Maybe it would have been better if Hanekawa and Gahara-san had gone out!
Even though I was told I definitely won, I actually lost in a meta sense, so it’s like I was guaranteed to win, right?
In the first place, it’s because Senjogahara had nothing to do with why Hanekawa lost in Kabaneri Monogatari: Kuro.
>>88
I think even without that, Araragi-san would have chosen Gahara-san.
It seems that the “Zaregoto” series made the character a mental monster because she was bonded with a heroine who had become foolish, ranging from monsters to ordinary people.