
I won’t fail next time. Please look forward to it.
You’re an idiot. You don’t understand the world. You won’t know unless you try it. I believe it’s worth trying. A country without swords is worth a try. It’s embarrassing to explore on your own. I see… In other words, you want to conduct an experiment. You want to do an experiment whose results are already known. Using the trust you have in me, you’ll take a lot of people along with you… 123
Torfin is still young, so he can try and error!
That kind of devil-like man does a good job.
I said I’m going to give it a try!
Einar was undoubtedly capable.
Left behind immense experimental data in exchange for a life.
He was a man like Gusukoburi.
By the way, do you have a fire?
This time I created a community for female leaders, but I wonder if it won’t fail as well.
I want to see the shift towards trial and error in colonization.
A true warrior? You’re being deceived, that’s a lie made up by the “War Demon” (Troll) Thors.
An old man who dreamed of peace during the Viking age blew a blast to make it happen.
Don’t start the colonization when your ideals are ridiculously high but you can’t even unify your subordinates’ will.
It’s not that you don’t know about the world, but rather that you have a thorough understanding that “there are groups that come at you with initial night raid genocides, where surrender and negotiations won’t work.”
Honestly, it’s really impossible to deal with someone who looks away from that and talks about superficial niceties.
It’s really shitty to say that peaceful coexistence is important while not even trying to learn a single word.
You think you can solve things with your fists when it comes down to it, don’t you?
It’s fine that Thorfinn and A◯l are doing those things because they have different values or lack proper education; that’s just who their characters are.
It’s frustrating that even in a state where it feels like my anus has already burst and diarrhea is leaking out, I’m still making a cool face and playing with words.
Well, if everyone could move like Thorfinn, they wouldn’t have to worry at all.
It can only be endured.
Although they were born in different circumstances, compared to Thorfinn, Knut was quite decent and admirable.
>>14
An idea that Thorfinn does not have about saving the Vikings.
It’s not about clearing harsh land where there are no people; it’s about renting a nice piece of land that already has people living there.
You’re not considering the other person’s feelings.
Is it intentional that Thorfinn often looks more dazed than desperate?
There are people saying that Einar has become like her husband, but I think comparing the two is absurd.
>>18
Considering my husband’s circumstances, there’s definitely room for leniency.
That was an unfortunate situation where my husband was not at fault, but too many bad things piled up.
It’s very disappointing that the story has turned into one where a young boy is just seen as boasting about his ideals.
>>20
It can’t be helped that Thorfinn’s attempts at settlement continued to fail and ultimately did not succeed, as it is a historical fact.
>>78
That’s why I think the way of drawing is important…
There are plenty of interesting historical movies, even if you know how they end, due to their interpretation and expression.
My husband was doing what he could…
It’s fine if a story has mistakes in its progression, but if there’s little to learn or if the choices stemming from events are not clear, the reader will feel left behind.
It’s like being good at drawing is working against me, as Thorfin and Einar always have such serious expressions on their faces.
No, you really shouldn’t be making that face right now; it’s causing a frustrating situation.
>>24
I think there might be a lack of sad stories to support philosophy and thought.
Living as an adult in modern society, I find it hard to be so clear-cut, as I experience or hear about more gruesome things, so honestly, it’s hard to discuss philosophy with such a simple story and characters.
Shall we ask His Majesty King Knut to be our sponsor this time?
>>25
By now, I want that much cunning.
Unless you are the kind of person who can accept both good and bad, you lack persuasiveness.
I don’t think it’s a bad idea to look for a nice piece of land and move there.
If we intend to blend in and breed as we please, then after that, even if hundreds of years pass, we will end up being disliked, right?
There is an inevitability to seeking the same kind of ruthlessness as in the movie “The Revenant” in this sense of the era, but that film is filled with lessons and choices that the protagonist learns from the world and tragedy…
I’ve also received advice from older figures like Thorkel and Sig’s father.
The decent adults around Thorfinn are saying that even if they don’t intend to kill, they must demonstrate their strength.
>>31
It’s okay to have opposing thoughts, but since we’re moving forward without any alternatives, it’s becoming a world drawn by children.
When adults have conflicting opinions, it makes no sense if they don’t come up with better alternatives; readers are already deeply aware of this.
Don’t let an idiot be a leader, seriously.
I thought Gyoro was the character responsible for historical failures, but perhaps Gyoro and Niska might become successful examples of harmony instead.
I shouldn’t have followed a daydreaming fool.
It’s too late to realize now.
To make this interesting from here, there has to be a change of main characters.
If you depict a life after failure, there is still some interesting aspect to the story.
I was looking forward to seeing how they would reconcile it with historical facts.
Well, I was expecting too much…
The readers have known from the beginning that the settlement would fail.
>>38
It depends on how you draw it.
>>38
So I don’t think there are many people who are actually disappointed by the failure itself.
>>38
Thorfinn is not being blamed at this stage, nor does he think “You are the true warrior.”
I think it’s terrible that they skipped over the entire period from when Thorfinn set his goals to when the settlement began, and that he hadn’t grown as a leader during that time.
>>19
I think I’m speaking completely sane compared to the thread image.
Resigning after that failure won’t count as taking responsibility, and we must give meaning to the lives lost and the equipment damaged.
>>40
In other words, the data from that failure over there was indeed valuable and connected to what came later.
Does this failure lead to something next?
>>44
Next time, I’ll make sure to properly send a blanket.
If I were to turn into a devil, it doesn’t mean that everyone else will be able to live happily or anything like that.
From here on, it’s already a disaster, but Thorfinn just keeps insisting.
I understand what you want to say, and that scene with Einar and Thorfinn is terrible.
I don’t necessarily want you to cry and scream, but there must be something more.
>>47
If Einar were more of a fanatic or in a clone-like position to Thorfinn, then that development would make sense, but as the ending for someone who just tried to understand, it’s way too harsh.
Don’t casually speak of love.
The essence of the story is completely broken.
The joy of wondering how far a naive thought can go has turned out to be just the disappointing fantasy of mere incompetence.
Normally, someone like Thorfinn would be excluded from a proper community.
Because he is unnecessarily strong, the story can only progress around Thorfinn, causing those around him to become sacrifices.
Well, in a good or bad way, not getting involved is probably the correct answer.
>>50
Isn’t the nameless one holding too many unclear Thorfinn statues?
It’s not about failure; it’s that Thorfinn is not trying to see reality, which is causing stress for the readers.
Thorfinn is an advanced player, so he ends up playing with restrictions…
But isn’t it true that Thorfinn is neither affirmed within the story nor by the author?
>>53
That’s true, but the story has progressed too much, and we’re not at a point where we can reflect on that part anymore.
Furthermore, it’s not just a few people’s adventure.
It would have been better if our settlement had just begun…
>>55
Skipping over the extremely important part of how to put the ideals into action after envisioning them.
It’s not like there will be anything indicated later as a flashback that was prepared separately…
They probably do it quickly when expressing something like ruthlessness, but for some reason, during the question-and-answer scenes, they strike a pose with a serious face in a big close-up, which really builds up a lot of frustration.
There’s no way that a fantasy that doesn’t even hold up in reality can work in modern times.
Somehow, dying and dreaming at the boundary of the afterlife or something.
When Thorfinn flips and becomes a devil.
It can only end in that direction.
>>57
Here we go with the spiritual stuff again (laughs).
>>61
Stop it, son.
Thorfinn lovers until the farm arc.
The dislike for Thorfinn after Miklagard.
I feel like I’m only being shown the tense and troubled scenes, skipping all the interesting parts of the overseas drama.
>>62
You’ve seen quite a few interesting places, haven’t you!?
>>68
Until the agricultural section…
Thorfinn should have gone to Jupiter, not Vinland…
Talking about love and then receiving a huge backlash is troubling because the story is well-crafted.
You can’t become a true warrior unless you overcome this.
>>65
I think that was only achieved in Einar’s death scene…
Even if we enter a reflection phase from here, the readers won’t be able to keep up.
I think lowering one’s resentment would mean becoming someone who has always carried their failures in their heart, ashamed of their own incompetence, and watches as others, more practical, take on the role of leader and move forward.
Even if it doesn’t work out, Thorfinn can manage somehow, but as for the others with low combat ability…
>>70
I’ll smack you down!
>>75
Aren’t you not allowed to stop? Rather, isn’t it that stopping is not allowed?
>>84
If the people who are going to die were giving Thorfinn a look that seemed to blame him for stopping on his own, I could understand that too.
Even in a world a thousand years from now, people continue to fight, Thorfinn…
Knowing reality, failing, and reflecting on it should originally be things to do during the preparation stage…
>>72
Next time I won’t fail.
Please look forward to it.
I think the lack of feeling like I’ve done everything I could is also a cause of my frustration.
I see imagined conversations with the deceased in various manga, but if they don’t handle it skillfully, it usually ends up being a convenient form of self-justification and tends to fail.
>>79
I feel like the backlash is coming now because things have gone too well until now.
>>79
(The master delivers punishment with a silent expression of anger.)
I had a deep feeling that we had finally come this far to be granted permission by Hild.
Ultimately, if it settles into a landing that avoids parts you don’t want to step on, that will really spoil things there as well.
>>81
It looks like they’re stepping on something they normally wouldn’t want to step on with all their might…
If you think that settling in a harsh environment allows you to escape from conflict, then…
To begin with, I came this far because I was caught up in a conflict, even though I’m from a region with limited prospects.
It’s fine that Thorfinn wants to realize his dream, but not considering what to do when the opponent attacks is a serious mistake.
I remember you were really confused about what to do with the ending before.
>>87
You weren’t thinking about it, were you…?
>>90
It’s normal for things to change while writing during the creative process…
>>87
I saw that you said you thought about how to end it when you started the series, but I wonder if that’s about the details.
>>87
“It’s a historical fact that Thorfinn survived and lived a peaceful later life.”
They have been foreshadowing what to do with that “Thorfinn” for a long time…
I mean, even if it’s a push, isn’t the hallucination that Thorfinn should see more like a curse?
What are you being so airy about?
It seems that the author has included a message as well.
>>94
It’s love, isn’t it?
It is consistent from the previous work.
>>94
Honestly, this is the most unnecessary part of this author’s work…
>>94
Is there a work that has no message…?
Thorfinn denies violence, but in reality, he relies on it more than anyone else.
These characters responsible for the violence in this work will also use means other than violence to achieve their goals.
In Thorfinn’s case, there is no effective means other than violence.
>>96
In the first place, the peace of modern society is established by the violence of threatening to imprison or execute those who do not obey the law!
The logic of using violence for peace cannot be dismissed even by modern standards.
To be honest, I even felt that Stork was more pitiful.
Don’t casually speak of love…
I am saying that we won’t deviate significantly from historical facts in the ending.
I think the part that hasn’t been decided is the direction and what to have them say.
That’s right, Einar.
You killed.
I wasn’t expecting a happy ending, but still…
Is there a route where I can continue to live by escaping without fighting alone?
If these crazy ones don’t collect data, the impossible will remain impossible…
>>107
It’s because someone practiced it in the past that we, in modern times, can say “it’s impossible!”
>>113
At that time, everyone was saying it was impossible…
>>118
Saying “it’s impossible” and actually trying and finding it impossible have entirely different values.
>>107
I think those who are working harder and more seriously are in a different league, and the people who are playing with nonsensical self-imposed restrictions haven’t even reached that level.
After repeating some resolutions from Planetes through Love and Peace.
It’s because now clearly indicates what the end will be like…
If everyone had the strength and resolve like Thorfinn, they could probably do it…
>>109
If everyone had awakened as true Nord warriors through intense sorrow while maintaining a peaceful mind, they would have succeeded.
The drawings should be good, but there are a lot of moments where the expressions seem off, like, are you really making that face in this situation?
Mainly Thorfinn, but…
The author knows that it’s impossible to create a catharsis greater than the moment Askeladd dies.
I sent many people to their deaths as sacrifices for my own ideology, while I lived a comfortable and peaceful later life!
~Vinland Saga – Complete~
>>112
Since there are two Thorfinns, if one of them were to die, well…
The vigor that Thorfinn had in his youth has completely disappeared, and it’s sadness.
It’s painful that the work that was spent 20 years on after the success of Planetes has ended up like this.
Isn’t it worse than the Survey Corps?
Thorfinn’s confidence ultimately comes from his physical strength.
There are experiments that don’t even need to be done.
It went on for a long time, but the thread image was everything after all…
The feeling of the former protagonist who has lost the protagonist’s favor in the sequel.
It’s frustrating when an advanced player brings along a bunch of beginners and makes them participate in their own self-imposed challenges, only to be absent at critical moments.