
Why is it that popular places in Tokyo are all lived in by city dwellers? It doesn’t make sense, right? The “city” mentioned in this book is different. Tokyo Prefecture is wide horizontally, and the “city” referred to in this book ends at Mount Takao, so it covers only Tokyo’s 23 wards. It’s there! (Don’t acknowledge the idea!) Narrow it down again to one, Chiyoda Ward, Shibuya Ward! Minato Ward! The Hanzomon Line is currently running; on the right is Chiyoda Ward, on the left is Minato Ward, and then there’s the popular spot down in Minato Ward!!!?? Wow, the 19 wards—Tokyo Prefecture is surprisingly big! Other wards, you see, so that’s what it means to be “Tokyo Prefecture”! Is there a phrase like “other”!? Popular map of Tokyo Prefecture (including the Izu Seven Islands), Machida City, Kodaira City, Nishitokyo City.
Isn’t Hachioji big?
Machida City?
It’s not something that spreads that much…
>>3
Will they reclaim Tokyo Bay…
Hachioji wasn’t in the 23 wards after all…
>>4
Can you stop talking about Yamanashi?
>>4
That’s quite something…
>>8
If you don’t live nearby, it’s not that great.
I don’t know anything about the geography of Osaka either.
Setagaya is not included.
>>5
Because there are fields and such.
>>5
Setagaya is primarily a residential area and a bedroom community, so once you live here, you’ll understand that it feels a bit different from a city.
>>5
There’s no way I’m going in.
Hinaramura…
It seems that the girls from Minato Ward live in pretty nice places…
>>11
The reason they are called “Minato Ward girls” is precisely that.
>>11
That’s why it has such a name because it’s of that high-class type.
>>11
By the way, just because a Minato Ward girl is out every night in Minato Ward at lounges and tower party events does not mean she actually lives in Minato Ward.
It refers to a woman who comes out from the suburbs and is trying hard to catch a high-spec man like one who lives in Minato Ward.
>>95
It’s like a loud muffler in the city, something like a Tochigi or Ibaraki license plate.
Isn’t it strange that the city has the Imperial Palace?
>>12
It’s not just because there is the Imperial Palace, but also because there is the Imperial Palace.
It’s still a city even without the Imperial Palace.
It doesn’t go to Shinjuku.
Hachioji basically falls under the category of Yamanashi, providing images when it snows in Tokyo.
I didn’t know there was a place like Aume there…
Taito Ward is one of the strongest in terms of culture, but compared to other areas, it undeniably has a touristy feel.
When considering that this fourth district corresponds to the rural prefectural capital, the surrounding districts may simply be densely populated without nature.
I don’t know much about Tokyo, but isn’t Shinjuku not that urban? There’s the metropolis government building, right?
>>18
There’s nothing in the direction of the metropolitan government…
>>18
What does it mean to be a true Tokyoite? If I were to say it without worrying about persecution, it would be like this.
It’s the kind of story that goes, “If it’s another prefecture, then isn’t it a place that you only know outside of the prefectural capital?”
In some areas of Shibuya Ward, it’s not like that at all.
>>19
There are many high-end residential areas around Shoto and Sakuragaoka…
When it’s said at the level of Nakagawa and Reiko, well, it turns out that way.
I love that the battle among the 23 wards of Tokyo starts in Kaguya-sama.
It’s quietly leaking in Ikebukuro.
>>22
Well, Ikebukuro…
Is Shibuya still popular now? It’s not just because it’s close to the center, right?
Well, considering disaster prevention, living inland feels safer.
I didn’t realize Ikebukuro wasn’t a ward… It’s called Toshima Ward.
Is it the place where that old lady’s garden is?
>>27
It is no longer there, so it was a place that once existed.
>>27
The current Harry Potter facility at Toshimaen is actually located in Nerima Ward.
My Taitō Ward is…
Shibuya Ward is a valley as the name suggests, so the urban feeling is inferior to other areas.
This allowed us to specialize in youth culture.
Shibuya seems urban… I prefer Shinjuku.
Shinjuku Ward becomes completely different when you move away from Shinjuku Station…
Well, the Minato Ward girls live in Chiba and Saitama.
Certainly, outside of the 23 wards, it often feels no different from or even inferior to the prefectural capitals of other regions. It might be because the expectations for Tokyo are too high.
Still, Taito Ward is one of the most livable areas, and land prices are skyrocketing now.
>>37
The city is a difficult place to live.
I wondered about Bunkyo Ward, but it seems to be an upscale residential area.
I’ll say this before someone who takes it seriously comes along, but this is an extremely exaggerated story based on the Nakagawa zaibatsu (manga), okay!?
Up to around West Tokyo, there’s still a sense of being in Tokyo.
Going further west, it’s a countryside more rural than a half-hearted countryside.
Well, it’s tricky to say that areas around Katsushika, Arakawa, and Edogawa are considered urban.
>>44
I only have the image of a downtown area.
What about Akabane?
>>45
Saitama~
It may not have a sense of luxury, but Toshima Ward has good places besides Ikebukuro.
It is often said that the 23 special wards of Tokyo are not places to live, but rather places to work and go out for fun.
Isn’t this 4th district particularly like that?
>>49
So the ones who live there are amazing.
>>49
In this area, it’s true, but there are plenty of cheap apartments around Itabashi, Nerima, and Kita, so it’s not that bad.
Ryo is trying to appeal as a downtown kid, but he was born and raised in Asakusa, so he’s quite a city boy.
If you think Edogawa Ward is rural, then that’s right.
So the Tokyo Metropolitan Government isn’t in Tokyo…
Setagaya Ward is relatively easy to live in.
Hachioji is practically a different prefecture now.
It is difficult for Kawasaki to invade from across the river in Setagaya.
Anyway, I won’t recognize anything but the 4th district as a city.
Because it would tarnish the city’s brand…
Tokyo is really small, right?
It still looks quite big when viewed in the image.
Ultra-rich people have an image of living in Denenchofu or Setagaya.
There are quite a few districts in Saitama that have become colonies.
Meguro Ward!?
At least the nearby areas of Chiyoda Ward should be allowed to be considered part of the city…
In the news, they often say things like “today in central Tokyo is…” but it feels really frustrating somehow.
Isn’t the range a bit narrow?
In other areas, it’s like in Osaka city or in Nagoya city…
It feels like the term “city center” is something that only applies to Tokyo.
>>63
In places like Hachioji, there are circumstances that make the weather quite different…
In Tokyo, if everything is bundled together, there is a misunderstanding as the snowfall in Hachioji is converted to the term snowfall in Tokyo.
>>63
Even places like Hinohara Village in the mountains and the Ogasawara Islands, which are remote islands, have Tokyo as their address, so when you think of Tokyo, it’s too broad and the temperature differences are really extreme.
In other words, there are people who say that anywhere outside of this 4th district isn’t Tokyo! Is that what you mean!?
>>64
Many people insist on adding the area where they live as one more district.
I lived in Nihonbashi, but the rent for a one-room was around 90,000 yen, so it’s not that much if you’re living alone.
It’s tougher because it’s a business district, so on weekends, everything except chain stores is closed.
It seems that people from other prefectures are more particular about this than the residents of Tokyo.
>>66
That’s not true.
Even though I’m obsessed with the station and area I live in.
>>66
If you are far from the Kanto region, you don’t understand anything about that area at all.
I feel like Tokyo, Chiba, Saitama, and Kanagawa are all part of the same lump.
>>74
Thanks to television and the internet, I know the reputation of the downtown area.
I think there are quite a few people in my hometown who believe that it is probably more urban than some of the poorer districts in Tokyo.
Shall we talk about Saitama Shintoshin?
That said, when the TV people talk about the city center, they mean the area visible from their office.
Setagaya Ward has Komazawa Park too…
I think it’s fine to let them say whatever they want.
Even outside the 23 wards, Tokyo is still Tokyo…
Personally, I want to exclude Shibuya Ward and include Bunkyo Ward.
I am extremely grateful to my ancestors who owned land in Chiyoda.
Regarding work in this area, aside from those who find commuting to be a hassle, everyone lives in Kanagawa, Chiba, or Saitama. What kind of population actually lives around here?
>>76
Come over to my place after work^^
>>76
I’m a country bumpkin, but I live in Akihabara.
Meguro Ward has a lot of large embassies.
The entire district is developing, that’s what this district 4 is about.
Shibuya, the area closer to Shinjuku, is a bit lacking, but even there, big roads run through it and it’s thriving despite not having top-class offerings.
In the city, parking is cheaper on weekends.
The closer the place you return to sleep is to the place you are during the day, the more valuable it is, right?
In terms of the 23 wards, Setagaya is quite large, so there are definitely good areas as well as not-so-good areas, and the disparity is quite significant.
My grandma lived in Setagaya Ward, and even though she sold it in a really crowded place, she left behind quite a legacy…
I was helping with caregiving, so I was able to receive a little.
Why is Shinjuku Ward not there!!!???
Tokyo, Kanagawa, and Saitama too.
The west side is a mountain.
Shinjuku Ward is often said to be a city in the north as well, huh?
Shinjuku is a sub-center.
It’s Brazil.
There are surprisingly many cities in Tokyo that you don’t hear about much.
Around Itabashi Ward is fine.
When I went to a friend’s house in Setagaya.
The road from the station is just a series of narrow paths and residential areas.
There was nothing big to serve as a landmark in the distance, and I felt like I was going to get lost.
In other words, if I were thrown out without a map, I might lose my sense of direction and go crazy.
There’s nothing but a ward office battle.
I’m more concerned about the convenience of being along the Yamanote Line than the city or the 23 wards.
At least, can you forgive Shinjuku?
>>98
The farther west you go in Shinjuku, the more you are affected by the toxic atmosphere of Itabashi, Nerima, and Toshima.
Kyoto, both inside and outside of Kyoto City.
Inside and outside of the capital.
There are some entries that have a caste system.
>>99
It’s a culture exclusively for older women, though…
I was surprised that the mountains are surprisingly close when going from Chiba to Tokyo.
(Since people from Chiba Prefecture are not used to seeing mountains)
I understand Ginza and Nihonbashi, but as for Chuo Ward, I don’t feel any sense of identity when it’s grouped as a ward.
>>104
Just by the name, it’s pretty plain.
It is merely a convenient name given to the area where landmarks referred to as the core are gathered.
I don’t think there is any particular character in Chuo Ward itself.
Shinjuku Station also cuts into Shibuya Ward.
The height of buildings gradually decreases from areas like Shinjuku West and Yoyogi.
It may sound like it, but in reality, it feels different from the metropolitan vibe of places like Shinjuku.
It has an urban image like in Lost in Translation.
Since I’m just a country bumpkin who moved to the city, there’s no way I could live in this district four.
I can’t help but think that areas like Tama and Fuchu are just perfect.
>>110
I don’t like that area because the commute is far.
The 23 Ward Battle reminds me of the manga where Nerima Queen and Chiyoda Queen appear.
There was a girl who wanted to live in Minato Ward and was struggling to rent a one-room apartment for 100,000 yen; I wonder how she’s doing.
>>112
If the review has been approved, then it should be fine, right?
Of course, I won’t rent a house to someone who clearly has no prospect of being able to pay.
Where is an easy-going district, putting popularity aside?
>>115
A place close to the station and near a supermarket.
>>115
Anywhere along the line.
It’s convenient to go to Shinjuku without transferring.
If you have children, living in the city may end up being cheaper than living in Kanagawa, Chiba, or Saitama.
If it’s somewhere like Nerima, the rent isn’t that high, right?
Chiyoda Ward isn’t very livable, you know.
>>120
I can’t go outside the house as I please.
If it’s money, don’t worry, there’s Tokyu in Shibuya.
I thought that since it was called Chuo Ward, it would be the political center with places like the legislature or the official residence, but that was actually Chiyoda Ward.
What is the center?
>>123
Is Nihonbashi the starting point for everything, which is why it becomes the center of Japan?
Urban people often light a fire with their nails in ways that are hard to understand.
The “city” being referred to here is purely a matter of a status symbol, you know.
The practicality of livability is not particularly related to it, and it may even be divergent.
Grandma had a house in Kamiyama, Setagaya Ward.
It was a pretty normal place, enough to have a trash house in the neighborhood.
>>128
Setagaya Ward seems to be other districts rather than an urban area according to the thread.
Are there no girls from Chiyoda Ward or Chuo Ward?
>>130
There might be a lack of a dazzling pushiness or something like that.
Anyway, since I focus on appeal, I don’t tend to gravitate towards places with a calmer image.
The foreign trainee who came through our workplace’s trainee program was super excited when I showed him around Hiroshima, which is like a rural area but still feels very urban. I wonder how he would react if he went to the 23 wards of Tokyo.
>>131
My junior who grew up in Tottori until they started working was all excited about working in Hiroshima City, saying it’s urban.
The Hibiya Line, Chiyoda Line, Saikyo Line, Chuo Line, Sobu Line, and TX are too crowded and are terrible, so it’s better to avoid them.
I can understand it as a status, but there are only a few people who aim to live there while disregarding everything else, to be honest.
I’ve heard the name Hachiōji quite often, but I didn’t realize it was so far away…
>>134
From the Kanagawa Prefecture side, it looks like it’s deep in the mountains, so honestly, you can think of it as a different world.
If you’re going to be a flashy fashionista among wealthy people, you might as well be a Minato-ku girl no matter where you are.
Is being rich about living in an environment where you can lead a comfortable life in this district?
The quality of life (QOL) will definitely improve if the living environment itself is more comfortable.
I live in Katsushika, but the public morality is low, so it’s better to avoid Katsushika, Adachi, and Edogawa.
If you can get past the high cost of living, then there shouldn’t be any problem with it being difficult to live in.
It’s not that it’s difficult to raise children; I can have them looked after right near my workplace, public schools have high levels, and there are even schools for gifted education.
Once upon a time, there was a child of Togashi.
The district of 〇〇 is so confusing that I can’t tell which is which.
Aren’t they all the same?
When I lived in Meguro before, there was Tamori’s house nearby.
Isn’t “Chiyoda-ku women” referring to female bureaucrats?
Isn’t something weird about the Takao Mountain in the thread image?
Okutama?
The level of civilization ultimately boils down to a very localized discussion based on where one lives, so it can’t be generalized.
The good thing about Chuo Ward is that there are many companies based there, so commuting time is short.
When I lived in Nihonbashi, it took 15 minutes to walk to work, and if I took the train, it was 7 minutes, so I was never bothered by crowded trains.
I became the person who gets called first when there are troubles late at night.
Is Shinagawa different too?
>>150
The skyscrapers around Shinagawa Station are actually in Minato Ward.
It was too inconvenient not to be able to drive, so even though I used to live there for work, I returned to the countryside.
I couldn’t stand the train ride.
I’ve thought since I was a child that places like Setagaya and Suginami aren’t really desirable places to live.
>>153
The security is good.
The buses run by the local government are well equipped.
In Minato Ward, you can go anywhere for 100 yen!
Rich people probably use taxis or private cars.
It’s hard to grasp how much the railway lines affect quality of life when you come from the countryside.
The place that was once the suburbs completely lost its route value and practical value due to the bubble.
I thought that Tokyo was just the 23 wards because I’m from the countryside…
>>157
Tokyo residents don’t know much about other prefectures, so it is what it is.
>>161
If anything, I don’t really know much about anything outside of my own district either.
>>157
The western part of Tokyo is really far removed from the image of Tokyo that you might imagine.
The upscale residential area is a bit different from the city.
Well, the housing in Area 4 is also upscale.
Because it’s densely populated, the atmosphere of the town changes dramatically even within a narrow range.
Shinjuku and Yoyogi are next to each other, but they are as different as Fukuoka and Oita.
For some reason, there is an OK Store in Ginza, but it’s amusing to see complaints in the reviews about not giving out ice packs or the delivery being poor.
I heard that places like Tachikawa and Machida are good for living.
Surprisingly, there are many reasonably priced shops in Ginza.
This is because customers who come to Ginza are often wealthy, but the people who work in Ginza are not necessarily so.
Well, it’s good to live there if the access to the city center is convenient.
However, rent and such are generally high.
The quality of the fish sold at the supermarket is good.
The original price is quite high, but it will be properly halved.
I think it’s nice to live outside the 23 wards or in Kanagawa or Chiba and occasionally go to play in the city.
I was confused by the local atmosphere and the snow after moving due to my parent’s job transfer.
The area around Shinagawa Station is in Minato Ward, while the area around Meguro Station is in Shinagawa Ward.
Okutama…
>>173
Okutama is investing a bit with JR, and there are people returning, including foreigners who come down the mountain on skateboards.
I thought Takadanobaba was about an old lady named Takada.
I recently found out that Hachioji and Oji are different.
I don’t know what there is in Okachimachi.
>>177
Is it perhaps Ameyoko that is easy to understand?
It’s fine to recognize it as between Ueno and Akihabara.
Isn’t it okay to include Shinjuku?
Minato Ward feels more like a wealthy bedroom community than “the city,” more than I imagined.
>>182
Are you really talking about “Minato Ward” in Tokyo?
From Shimbashi to the area around Roppongi Shiba, there are many famous corporate headquarters buildings, and if we are talking about residential areas, it would be around the embassy area of Takanawa and Shirokane.
I’ve heard about other regions here and there, but…
I don’t know anything about Kiyose City at all…
Riding a bicycle through Ginza is really tough.
It’s difficult to get off because there are so many parked cars, people, and vehicles.
Where did you go in Minato Ward?
Shinjuku is lively around the skyscrapers and the station, but overall it is old.
Okachimachi pretends to be Ueno, so it has no personality.
There are many such parasitic towns in Tokyo.
It’s narrow, so let’s widen it.
Which area is the circular line going around?
I only need Ikebukuro and Taito Ward.
Everything necessary is mostly available in Tokyo.
I’m planning to move to Tokyo and I’m currently looking around, but the countryside of Tokyo is crazier than I imagined.
As soon as I got off at Nishi-Sugamo Station, I was like “Wow.”
Okachimachi has been undergoing various redevelopment efforts in front of the station.
I get the feeling that there are only dilapidated buildings a little further on, and even if they want to redevelop, they can’t do it.
So, who’s the strongest in this 4th district?
>>196
Isn’t that Chiyoda?
>>196
Chiyoda Ward
>>196
There is a one-of-a-kind resident in Chiyoda Ward…
Okachimachi has a lot of sketchy shops, but I don’t have the courage to go into places like that, so I can’t enjoy it.
I couldn’t think of any distinctive features that characterize Okachimachi.
Speaking of which, there are an unusually large number of jewelry stores.
The area around Okachimachi has become more livable with the opening of movie theaters and the ability to take the TX from Shin-Okachimachi, you know.
It’s not that high, so if I can ride a bicycle, I can expand my range of activities.
Among these, Shibuya Ward feels quite inferior.
They say the rich don’t fight, but I’ve never seen this high-society area in conflict.
It’s common to see the common people fighting among themselves.
Despite its excellent location, why is Kiyose not thriving at all?
If the other 19 districts are not recognized as urban areas, then the local cities will no longer be considered urban.
>>206
I think there are quite a few districts below local cities…
>>211
Did you just badmouth Kita Ward and Adachi Ward?
The Seibu line can be described as a unique route.
Recently, the downtown area feels distorted because of the numerous condominiums being built.
Let’s distinguish between the countryside and the downtown.
>>209
What’s different? The number of row houses?
Tama City is in Tokyo.
Chiyoda Ward, when looking at Nagatacho and the surrounding area, is not much different from the area around the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, so it’s quite a rough standard…
In a regional city like Fukuoka, only the Tenjin area is urban.
I think it’s okay to include Shinjuku too.
Considering the original size of Edo, it’s still huge.