
A few days ago… Erik, just quit the party already. If you don’t tell me the reason, do you think I’ll understand? We don’t need a mage who can only use ice magic. Ice magic can only unleash temperatures of minus 2, 3, or 15 degrees… which means it can’t exceed absolute zero by even a millimeter… Therefore, the limit comes quickly. You can’t use fire, earth, or wind; all you can use is ice, which reaches its limit quickly. And you can’t even use the one and only ice magic properly… You have no talent… No talent at all. What you have is just coldness. Why… why is it that all I have is ice! Unlike the heart or wind that can unleash a powerful force instantly according to magic power…
A world where individuals can casually unleash boundless energy certainly doesn’t perish easily…
Is the intelligence of the banishing side also a typical trope?
>>2
Isn’t a magic user (single attribute) who can no longer use magic after a while somewhat decent in exile?
>>2
It can’t be helped since the author’s IQ is low.
Cold sensitivity is a joke, right?
Isn’t it understandable to ban someone just based on this page?
Isn’t it strong enough to reach absolute zero!?
Is it the Gunbuster…?
There’s no need to so forcibly make ice magic unfavorable…
There was also a samurai manga in the old days.
An outbreak of cold air that exceeds absolute zero.
Even without setting up strange rules, just the fact that they are a magician who can only use a single attribute should be enough to make a convincing argument for disqualification.
How about becoming a delivery driver for cool (refrigerated) packages?
>>13
It’s depicting cold sensitivity!
Even if you want to say that you’re weak because you have limitations, you shouldn’t say clumsy things… that’s what I’m summarizing.
Sure, one person is definitely overdressed… this is annoying.
While you’re in the party you’re trash, but as soon as you’re expelled, you awaken and become powerful…
>>18
Because we grow stronger due to changes in our environment and encounters, the judgment of being expelled at that time may not have been wrong even after we have become stronger.
>>18
This is called a parasite in technical terms.
Maybe it’s because of Bastard.
You’re terrible at this! Isn’t that enough? Can’t you just not force the ice magic down?
It’s rare to be called weak when you can reach absolute zero… What’s with having poor circulation!
It’s convenient for storing food during the summer.
If we could reach absolute zero, that would be enough, right…?
Considering that I can only use Blizzaga and I’m taking a bit of damage myself, I would normally be fired.
I wonder if the fire attribute will eventually become inferior too.
Other attributes often become a good chew toy, but…
It’s fine because it’s a fantasy world, but is there really a being that can survive being cooled down to absolute zero?
If you’re talking about cold sensitivity, then of course it’s going to be cold if you reach absolute zero!
I have a memory of reading this a long time ago.
It was really, seriously a terrible piece of work.
I’m sure the ice magic has caused the woman in the party to have worse cold hands and feet.
Didn’t we get a ton of complaints?
>>30
Why are you so obsessed with being cold?
>>30
Clear reason for expulsion
>>55
It’s just like an office air conditioner.
>>61
I think that cold sensitivity, which affects even the members, is quite a serious issue, irrespective of absolute zero…
Aren’t you going to become a winter Lucnoca as well?
If I can’t lower the object to absolute zero but can only shoot ice frozen at absolute zero, then it’s useless…
>>32
Yes, it is quite dangerous…
I mean, I don’t want to throw someone like that into the backline and fight in the frontline…
>>42
Those who can produce over 273 degrees with fire are welcomed!
>>47
I found it! A lighter!
>>47
The ignition point of paper is about 300 degrees.
A premonition that I won’t even be able to start a campfire properly.
If ice at -273°C and flames at 1000°C collide, the flames will win! It might be a world with that kind of vibe.
Cold sensitivity is tough…
It seems like you would be really popular in tropical or desert areas.
Perhaps everyone can use multiple elements, and it might be a world view where countering cooling with fire attribute magic is a given.
It was definitely absolute zero and permanent fire power in Bastard!!
Isn’t time almost stopped at absolute zero?
>>39
It’s not time that stops, but the movement of molecules, right?
What do you think about thermal radiation?
It’s a world where having multiple attributes is normal, so it’s fine to be dismissed just for being able to use only a single attribute, but I wonder why the author insists on cold sensitivity.
If I were hit by ice at absolute zero, it would stick and turn into a terrible situation.
To fight against the enemies of this world, absolute zero probably won’t work, so being banished is inevitable.
I think it’s just a lack of creativity.
I feel like there was definitely something that exceeded absolute zero and caused something weird to happen even in the top two.
>>48
That over there is time travel, huh?
The Gunbuster casually went below absolute zero.
In the science fiction reading book, it says, “First, thinking with 0°C as the standard is baseless or strange.”
Well, I guess that’s right… I think that’s the case… so I’m okay with that.
I can’t believe you actually decided to adapt something like this into a comic.
>>51
“Narou comic adaptations are like painting on the dust that has gathered in the corner of a site.”
It’s cold to go on an adventure with you.
Isn’t that what you should say?
>>52
In the end, it’s because I can’t warm up the situation.
It’s fun to pile it up, but the part that gets piled up feels critically boring.
If you can create a sound close to absolute zero, it seems like you could dominate with superconductivity or special physical laws, right?!
The attack power is inferior to fire, the destructive power is surpassed by lightning, the range is overwhelmingly dominated by wind, and the defense is high with earth. The healing performance is highest with light, and in terms of versatility, it still cannot compare to water. There are no points where it surpasses the other basic attributes. It is said to be an unfortunate attribute — ice. Sis… Crack. Unfortunately… There is no response to the reliability of ice… “Ice attribute” Nonsense…
It’s not “Narou,” it’s Ultraman!
The ice user is really super cool, so they probably wanted to make them the protagonist at all costs.
>>59
I understand.
Ice-using characters are so cool, right…
Negative temperatures, where Kelvin temperature is below zero, can be theoretically anticipated.
In reality, if it exists, it will have a higher temperature than any system with a positive temperature.
There are actually some amazing, middle-schooler-like settings like that.
It’s tough to watch someone who can only use ice attributes struggle with cold sensitivity; I wish they would take on a different job.
>>65
Transportation industry, perhaps…?
It seems like you misunderstand the meaning of absolute zero.
First of all, it doesn’t have a weak image at absolute zero.
The power of fire and wind that can be unleashed without limit is amazing.
Even if it becomes possible to lower the temperature below absolute zero, if the protagonist’s cold constitution is not resolved, it would ultimately still be a self-destructive act…
I don’t have the image of being weak against ice at all.
It is thought that I wasn’t thinking clearly because it was too cold.
Having a human ice pack during a trip would be extremely useful, right?
>>73
Isn’t it more suited for transporting ingredients than for adventuring?
It certainly seems better to quit being an adventurer.
Isn’t being colder than absolute zero going to make my own cold constitution even worse…?
I know that if you reach a temperature far below absolute zero, you can go back to the past, right?
What happens to molecular movement when you exceed absolute zero…?
>>76
I can’t move, so I can’t get over it…
Calling the inverted distribution negative temperature is kind of… well, it does become that if you define temperature based on energy distribution, but still… it feels weird.
Absolute zero is amazing, but if the medium is air, Asashoryu used to go in and out for 1 minute for muscle pain treatment during his active days.
It requires ingenuity to kill the moment it is sprayed.
If you want to create a story about an unmatched character with unfortunate magic, I would like you to at least use bubble magic.
>>79
Bubbles and instead, it’s the technique of a strong character.
>>79
I would like the main character girl to have the title “Bubble Princess.”
>>89
For some reason, the men who attack us all end up becoming allies.
>>79
In “Narou-style” stories, there are often characters who lament, “Argh! I’m so unfortunate!” about what is clearly a super strong skill depending on how it’s used, and it makes me think that their weakness is not about their position, but their mindset.
If you’re asking about strength, isn’t it Joule instead of Kelvin?
When you reach absolute zero, it’s not so much ice! but rather a more detailed realm of thermal energy and kinetic energy, isn’t it?
I understand that a wizard who can only use Hyado-type magic is useless…
In a fantasy world, being able to produce ice anytime is highly valued as a refrigerator.
It would be good to open a tavern.
There are no life forms that can function at absolute zero, so it’s not sufficient…
>>87
If anything, there’s no need for the upper limit of fire to be that necessary.
I feel that ice can sometimes be quite useful as a physical element.
I wonder why it’s recovery with light.
>>92
It might be a world where recovery magic and the like are divine blessings.
>>92
Intense light is warm, pleasant, and also has a sterilizing effect.
>>92
The image of monks as healers, along with attributes such as holy and light attributes used by monk-type characters, has been created.
I think that in the end, the light attribute was separated from the priest and transformed into the image of light = healer attribute.
Isn’t absolute zero strong?
Are we going in a direction where concepts are frozen or something like that?
>>95
The punchline is the suspension of the comic adaptation serialization…
>>95
I don’t know, but I think I’ll probably end up entering the school eventually.
With this expression, I wonder how much firepower a magician on fire or wind can produce…
>>98
Even if they say it can be released without limit, if we consider the impact on the surroundings, creating a fire at 10,000 degrees or a gust of wind at 100 meters per second without any thought would also lead to our own death, right?
In other works, pet shops are also pretty strong.
It’s all about the depiction, whether it’s cold air or fire.
>>101
Being weak due to having the 〇〇 attribute leads to this conclusion.
Eternal Force Blizzard…
For some reason, the earth attribute is treated poorly, but it doesn’t have a single weak point.
In both battle and life.
In a fantasy world, the concept of absolute zero suddenly appears.
It’s not a crazy number like minus twelve trillion degrees at the top two.
That’s a half-hearted setting…
>>108
Well, that’s because ice is unfortunate! It’s something that hasn’t been thoroughly developed just to make that point.
If we think about whether Ghiaccio would be expelled at the party, there’s absolutely no way.
Isn’t it true that Abdul is stronger? Even if there’s that kind of thought, it’s absolutely not the case.
The glasses attribute is certainly better to be without, and it wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say it’s weak.
What is that weak attribute that makes everyone go “Ah… hmmm…”?
>>111
I don’t think so.
>>121
To be frank, I can produce a whole lot! If I’m given a creative type of ability, I can utilize it in any way depending on how I use it.
Magic is basically a higher-level version of that.
In short, it’s generally weak as a reason for expulsion.
>>111
Weak power
>>127
It’s actually super strong, just with a weak name.
The weakest of the four forces is actually gravity.
>>111
Wood attribute
>>131
The fact that Hashira is here…
>>131
In NARUTO…
>>131
Wood Release
>>131
Rather, I’ve never had an experience where I was weak…
When you dig deeper, it’s just a lot of troublesome traits, and those people complaining are simply lacking effort.
There’s a reason for the banishment, not that it’s unjust, but is there a hidden talent!? It’s strange, isn’t it?
Wasn’t your personality something like a certain granting magic that was just terrible?
In the original work, the monster’s voice is frozen and becomes like Koe Katalamine, so I think it’s written with the intention of being a gag.
When I think about the meaning of absolute zero, it really makes no sense that it can go any lower! There’s no way for it to go down, right?
>>120
The motion of the molecules completely stops there, so there is nothing below that.
>>120
Since the value of -100000000°C was presented, it feels like I’m being tested for my intelligence.
In ability battle stories, the ice freezing ability often exceeds absolute zero and is associated with conceptual powers, which is quite a common image.
In other words, does that mean no growth beyond time stopping is expected?
Let’s say the enemy boss was manipulating information because they have poor circulation.
I think this world has casually been destroyed by Zetton many times.
If it’s a picky ability that can turn a hand towel into iron, then I can understand being unfortunate.
When you say ice attribute, the range is huge, isn’t it?
Is there no pure earth attribute dominance without any weird exaggeration?
I hate to say it, but it really feels like a bubble that this is being turned into a comic.
I don’t understand what you’re saying at all, but it seems that “negative temperature” exists.
https://wired.jp/2013/01/08/scientists-create-negative-temperature-system/
I think the idiots who say that ice magic is just a physical attack that directly hits with ice are actually using their brains more.
Well, I think ice created with magic is not just ordinary ice.
I’ll forgive you because you laughed at my cold sensitivity…
Isn’t it meaningless for fire, water, or wind to be powerful before absolute zero?
Due to the space between the pillars, the wood attribute is an incredibly strong ability within me.
>>140
Even with the column spacing removed, it’s still quite strong…
Recently, kids say that ice is weak, and that’s because of BLEACH, it’s BLEACH’s fault.
>>143
I wonder if the recent kids are being influenced by that…
>>143
Recently?
In a superhuman battle world like Bastard in its prime, there would probably be such things too.
That picture doesn’t have that kind of aura…
Pet shop… Ghiaccio…
Speaking of ice, how was Todoroki-kun from My Hero Academia doing?
>>148
That story gets heated, so let’s end it there.
>>148
When I asked the AI, it said, “Shoto Todoroki froze everything within his field of vision from above, stopping thousands of villains leading the Liberation Front.”
Wood attribute = It includes controlling plants, so it’s quite a strong character ability, right?
>>149
It’s the same as being able to use poison.
>>149
I remembered Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho.
What is there in the five elements?
>>152
The fifth line is just really strong in the first place…
The fact that Genbu is originally the strongest character is not recognized.
>>161
The five elements have the power to create everything, so they can’t be weak.
When you tell readers who understand scientific knowledge that “metals can produce water,” they’ll likely be quite skeptical…
>>178
I think you’ll understand if we talk about condensation.
Perhaps the one that is hardest to connect with is the side where lightning is included in the tree.
>>142
Speaking of which, there seems to be an experiment where they observe molecules with negative mass using absolute zero.
It seems they are taking advantage of the bug-like behavior that occurs at absolute zero.
When I was a child, I thought the strong and weak nuclear forces were like the spiciness of pickles from Korea.
If it’s a system where we can take away 〇〇℃ from the enemy, it seems like we could keep up with inflation.
Honestly, anything can be strong depending on how you present it.
It’s because I have cold sensitivity… yeah…
Well, all I can say is take care of yourself.
It’s not the temperature, it’s the output.
If I had the power to freeze the city to absolute zero in an instant, I wouldn’t have been banished.
Considering the reactions from those around me, having a poison attribute is tough.
“I’m good at controlling things like infections, mold, and flies.”
>>162
If it’s not the type that enchants weapons, there will definitely be collateral damage around.
It feels like it’s going to shoot a fireball at a trillion degrees, like Zetton from Fire.
I don’t like death attributes, but I’m starting to feel like they’re not that strong.
The ice user that I thought was the most dangerous is probably Zero Typhoon.
In the final chapter of the Bleach anime currently airing, the young mid-level voice actors are playing new characters.
I watched this when I was a child! It’s a work from a long time ago.
While there is a lack of ability and weakness, I think the interpretation of the attribute itself being weak is something that can only be understood through the context of the work.
Well, what that attribute in that world can do, to what extent, ultimately depends on the worldview…
(In this work, it’s true that each type has its own weaknesses in terms of system compatibility.)
There is no consistent weak attribute across all the works combined.
When I looked it up, it was the same as the thread image.
Isn’t it a different manga?!
Sometimes I get overlooked because of the ice…
What about attributes that are too strong like paralysis or poison, which just feel useless?
>>173
Boss monsters generally have resistances!
>>184
(However, it is also effective against the Demon King for the protagonist.)
The wood release of Hashirama not only has a large scale but essentially creates life.
I can understand that it is in a different category from other attributes.
>>174
Plants and earth attributes are often associated with goddesses of abundance and life imagery, so they cannot be weak.
I don’t have any weak image of ice at all.
>>175
“Strongest of the ice and snow type, or something like that.”
>>182
It’s strong, even though its portrayal is unfortunate…
There are many players who use strong characters, so the image is a bit weak, but I feel that the dark attribute itself is not that strong.
>>176
Because darkness can only do things like shadow warp and blinding, it generally gives the impression of including time-space interference.
I have the impression that the dark user was really weak in Psychic Force 2012.
Reaching absolute zero requires infinite energy, so it’s doing something more amazing than producing flames of tens of thousands or hundreds of millions of degrees.
It seems like the copper attribute won’t be able to take the top spot.
>>179
I may not be able to become the top, but it’s just too damn convenient, so if we were to banish it, we’d have no choice but to turn the whole work into a ridiculous world.
I don’t think there are any recent works featuring magic or abilities where ice users are depicted as weak.
There are instances of losing to the top tier in the story, though.
While every attribute has its weak and strong characters, I have the impression that gravity-type characters are almost all strong to the point where I can hardly think of any weak ones.
“Because it’s also made of ice.”
Cold sensitivity was interesting.
There are no cases where it’s really pitiful in this category.
I think readers won’t read it unless they understand that they can instantly turn things around.
>>192
A pattern where evolving into a cheat ability after being exiled makes the exile inevitable.
>>192
I won’t say it’s all like that, but at least I want them to have some basic reasoning.
…Well, if this is aimed at a demographic that would be satisfied with it, then I just happen to not be in that customer group…
But I like Ice Kirby and Ulborg…
Isn’t Sode Shirayuki’s ability a bit too self-destructive, to the point of being an embarrassment for the ice and snow type?
Well, if I had to say, it’s that the ice attribute has an unattractive appearance.
I think you’re a fraud with no talent.
Even in the Reiwa era, there are no limits to high temperatures, but there are limits to low temperatures; that theory holds true…
If anything, just spilling 77K of liquid instead of 0K would be super scary, right?