The empathy for being in the same painful situation as myself and the astonishment at the silly actions that result from it are completely separate.

Gaara is a complete victim.

Sasuke’s quest for revenge against the ninja world that oppressed his brother, and the reform of the world itself, can be understood, even if it is a violent act.

Obito can only be described as a complete rampage.

Because I had a pain in advance, I could lecture calmly.

>>9

If anything, against Nagato, I’m the one who killed Jiraiya, so I can understand your hatred well…

Gaara and Sasuke have parts that honestly go beyond my own experiences that I can’t fully understand…

Obito is an older person who is messing up while being burdened with dreams and various other things.

>>14

I don’t know why, but he’s an incredibly strong old man…

Obito’s face when he is being lectured by Naruto in that mental space is unbearable.

It’s the enemy of my parents, and currently causing a huge nuisance to the world, always saying ridiculous things about my mentor Kakashi-sensei’s father Minato, and in the end, I’ve been shown in a delusional world where I’m becoming Hokage.

Naruto suddenly snapped.

Others need empathy, but that’s probably because it feels like it’s the same as oneself.

I understand…

A boy who wants to become a professional soccer player feels really bad when he sees an old man who aimed for professional soccer but ended up destroying his foot, becoming a drug addict, and even committing murder.

Madara is indeed because of Hashirama.

It’s impressive that you can stay flat against Nagato.

I think there’s also the lesson taught to Itachi before meeting Madara that if you try to carry everything on your own, you’ll end up like Madara.

Even though I was sympathetic towards Pain, who destroyed the village, this is different.

>>28

I don’t think it was out of sympathy, though.

Well, this is something you all did to us, right? It’s not that I denied or affirmed it.

In fighting games, the interactions with Madara are also thin, huh, Naruto…

Because Naruto’s therapy doesn’t work on Madara…

Nakamoto’s way of doing things may be questionable, but it’s a point of praise that he was genuinely aiming for peace.

It’s no good to shut yourself away in delusions while trying to escape from everything.

I don’t understand Madara at all, you know.

What the heck is this guy… Just looking at him sends shivers down my spine…

Naruto therapy works smoothly for those who are troubled in their mind.

It doesn’t work on someone who has no hesitation like Madara.

Sometimes there are those who, like Kawaki, take too much and end up causing acute poisoning.

It’s still better than being angry because it’s the enemy of my parents.

I understand that I’m being scolded for living a disgraceful life… there’s nothing I can do about it.

Well, that’s precisely why the long-awaited two-man cell shines.

Because Gaara and I could sympathize due to our similar circumstances.

Obito gets angry because their circumstances are similar.

If she had let go, her appeal would have dropped significantly, turning her into an ordinary character, so the way you deviated from that was incredibly skillful, Lord Kishikage.

>>42

No one made any promises to you!

Did someone kill your parents, Obito?

It’s amazing that you can give a lecture based on empathy even to someone like that.

I believe it’s embarrassing precisely because it was depicted properly as a human.

Madara is the kind of person who would fail at everything and only consider talking to Hashirama, so preaching to him wouldn’t work.

This behavior should not become the norm.

Did it really have to go that horribly wrong?

I really like the panels here.

The fact that I was able to acknowledge that Obito is similar to me.

It is probably because I accepted Dark Naruto at the Valley of the Truth.

Where has the ideal version of myself that I occasionally played gone?

I like that Naruto doesn’t interact much with Hashirama and Madara, but I also had a feeling that I wanted to see what he thinks about them.

>>54

Well, to be honest, the length…

I can’t listen to stories about dead bodies that keep dragging themselves into the present even though they’ve turned to mummies down to the brain.

Taking away parents… Taking away opportunities to interact with the villagers… Taking away the skill to refine chakra…

If it’s Obito’s rage license, then I have enough qualification to get really angry at Naruto to the point of passing with full marks after surrendering it five times, and there’s no excuse from Obito either, but when viewed from the readers’ perspective, it’s understandable… that balance is really skillful, isn’t it?

It’s funny how Obito is giving a lecture about things he’s trying to do, not out of reform or the current situation, but out of lingering feelings.

If Rin were alive and had both eyes… it’s not just a happy delusion, but rather it’s unbearable to think that if I could have accepted Rin’s death at that time and overcome it, it might have been a relatively achievable delusion.

>>60

If it weren’t for the elderly care recipients who have been living needlessly, that situation wouldn’t have happened in the first place…

It’s at a level where it comes with a full course of activities that are completely nerve-wracking for Naruto, yet it ends with just a lecture.

I’m not blaming my parents or anything.

I understand… It’s a song that wasn’t even created for a tie-up, but the level of understanding is too high.

The promise created for the tie-up that doesn’t require words is like that.

>>63

There is a problem on the side of the uncle who is deeply affected by the song of adolescent anguish.

>>92

Tatsuya’s video was a bit too good.

The scene where Rin tries to touch her cheek and slips away gave me goosebumps when I first saw it.

Once we start saying “I did it” or “I was done in,” there’s no end to it. We’ve already absorbed that from this battle so far…

Getting outside the lines is a violation of the rules…

Nagato is a man who lives selflessly according to his ideals, so even though he has killed many people, you can tell just by looking at him.

I’m not me anymore… Honestly, I wanted to be Hokage just a little… But now I’m just an old man making all sorts of excuses and hiding my face.

The one who gets angry is the latter.

Sleeping in the chest (physically)

If family and friends are killed, the older generation is generally like that, and there’s really no point in focusing on that.

It is possible to approach it from a perspective of humanitarian advantage as much as one wants, but more than that, the unpleasantness of the disgraceful behavior comes through.

Well, if Zetsu hadn’t been there, Obito would have died, so there’s no escaping from Madara, and at the point when his other half was crushed, it was already checkmate.

>>71

Wasn’t that mission itself set up in the first place?

>>71

Even so, after Madara died, they could do whatever they wanted.

Even though there is a black Zetsu.

>>71

The ninja who cornered Kakashi and Rin is guided by Madara, so it’s all Madara’s fault from one to ten…

I don’t get how I can seem like a stubborn jerk but still help you out.

I didn’t want to touch on the death of my parents because it would mean affirming the cycle of hatred.

It’s nice to not overlook parts like this.

Nagato says, “I’m curious to hear your answer,” and despite aiming for an extreme approach, he still engages in conversation properly.

>>73

The mind may be out of order and the actions may be strange, but within the person, there is a certain degree of logic that can be explained to others.

The picture in the thread is terrible, but as Naruto himself says, there are parts that resonate, which is why he’s seriously angry and genuinely asking for them to come back.

The other day, I made fun of my father Minato so much, and I’m really glad my master is Hokage!! Thanks to him exposing his clumsiness right in front of me, I can really feel that!! No, I’m really glad I didn’t have to become Hokage!! So…

I’m glad my master is the Hokage.

Thanks to that, I was able to give up on becoming Hokage.

>>77

You’re trying to run away from everything…!

What I mean is that the reason the uncle is no good is because he knew all along, yet he kept convincing himself that he wasn’t wrong, heading further in the wrong direction until Naruto beat him up.

Kabuto was able to return.

Well, I guess it’s impressive, but…

>>81

Because there was someone waiting for me…

>>81

Orochimaru, Kabuto, and Sasuke are too good at navigating society after their mishaps.

>>91

Sasuke receives overly generous care from his friends…

Nagato’s principles of action are consistent and straightforward.

It’s a relatively realistic strategy to not escape to the dream world using bijuu, but to regularly start wars and make each country understand and calm down.

It looks like I’m just turning my eyes away, even though I’m only watching because I’m next to you, a masterpiece.

That aside, it’s true that it’s bad to be too late while taking a dump when the yellow flash is crucial.

>>89

In the first place, a supervising Jonin is supposed to treat their assigned students as independent once they reach the rank of Chunin or higher, so relying too much on the teacher…

>>89

Even though they have a technique called “Flying Thunder Body Technique” that seems like it can always come to the rescue in a pinch, it’s really frustrating that they are never there when it actually matters.

The song “I Understand” has an incredibly high level of comprehension.

Obito → Super annoying person

Madara → A legendary super unpleasant person

There is a difference of this much.

Ah! If he’s the Hokage and a teacher, he should have rushed to help me, Kakashi, and Rin in times of crisis, and he should have recognized my identity immediately just from wearing a mask!

Damn, the Hokage is terrible!

They probably weren’t planning to help in the first place…

He is a man who seems to grow the remnants of his dreams larger in his heart every time he utters something that sounds like giving up…

Rather than just having similarities, we have almost the same upbringing, which is why I’m calmly furious.

I think it’s a serious lecture because there are many things that overlap with myself rather than just being about my parents’ revenge, and it feels like my own disappointing “what if” future image.

Did I kill Rin?

>>103

Are you going to let me die?

>>103

You’re letting him die, Kakashi.

What’s terrible about Madara is that you’re the last child of the Uchiha clan you trapped, Obito.

Isn’t it too much for the head of the family to be messing with my kid like this?

>>104

I’ve already given up on my house…

>>104

If it’s my own grandpa, then taking care of him is only natural.

>>118

The lines about elderly care are really terrible.

Even though they targeted him, the fact that he stabbed his own kind, Sasuke, and made the vile one furious is also noteworthy.

I thought this is why I lost the trust of my family back then.

>>104

I was the head of the family, but I was in a situation where I was half-exiled from my own clan.

It’s just too terrible.

>>104

They probably only cared for their younger brother Izuna, despite always talking about the family and the clan…

What were you feeling while you were doing Tobir?

>>105

When I look back closely, it seems like I was praising the Akatsuki members and saying that it was fun.

Dummy mask!

In this case, I don’t really understand the goofy attitude from the Tobi era.

What kind of feelings would it be if it were a swirling emu?

>>107

Maybe about half of that is the real thing.

>>107

Well, after that, I’m emulating Uchida Naoya…

>>117

It’s so funny how different the acting is in this anime; it’s just so sticky.

>>107

I wonder how Nagato and Konan, who obviously knew about Madara (self-proclaimed), felt watching it, regardless of the fact that they hadn’t been informed about the true identity of Kisame yet…

I have more than enough right and legitimacy to say this, but if I bring up the fact that my parents were killed here, it would ultimately make me just one more person trapped in the world of ninjas where hatred spreads.

But that’s not Naruto.

What Uncle really wanted was not for someone to find out his true identity and stop him.

Even though I went out of my way to give hints to help others realize my true identity, nobody noticed it. The people around me are useless! I was right to judge this world as fake! I feel a pathetic desperation in trying to justify what I’m doing.

I wonder if there has been any change in the author’s state of mind.

Naruto is gaining too much life experience during the Pain arc.

The stability is incredible.

>>119

The separation from Jiraiya and the experience of saving the village are too significant.

>>119

From there, during the waterfall training, they confide that they had some thoughts about the betrayal of the Leaf Village.

From the reader’s perspective, it felt somewhat comforting.

>>131

If someone truly seems to forgive from the heart, then conversely, they are not human and cannot be trusted.

You realize it, don’t you?

I understand…

Maybe I was having a decent time on the journey with Senior Deidara.

A world where one abandons their family for the sake of the village, even though it was a home for the family, reinforces the idea that it is a terrible thing.

Even though I abandoned the village for my clan, it is exhausting to make full use of them.

When I make a mistake at work, the phrase “I know” cuts too deep.

The masked Madara has a sense of camaraderie.

The real Madara only exists in Hashirama.

>>130

Isn’t it strange that this shadow listens to people’s conversations so much? This Madara is just a fake, and what it’s doing is too cruel.

I like Uchida Naoya’s persistent Madara performance.

Ultimately, a pure character like Naruto cannot possibly emulate Madara.

>>133

I often find myself appreciating Sasuke’s guardians and the cooperation of the Akatsuki members, and thinking about why betrayals from friends are unacceptable, noting that Madara wouldn’t act this way.

If it’s Madara, he would probably handle everything with power and seems uninterested.

>>133

“The comrades of the dawn had some problems, but everyone cooperated of their own will… I wouldn’t have come this far without them (by. fake).”

“You guys, white Zetsu, are failed copies of Hashirama’s creations. As for Obito? Don’t compare him to that kid who took years to gather tailed beasts (by the real one).”

>>152

It’s genuine in various ways.

Because it looks so much like me, it makes me angry, and it’s too easy to understand the things that I know.

Madara wants peace, but he loves to fight as it is, believes in the absolute strength of the strong, and thinks of the weak as mere garbage crawling around.

>>137

The perspective of peace for everyone is too different from what Hashirama sees.

If the Akatsuki shark had been alive, I might have had a slightly better mental state, uncle.

At this point, it doesn’t matter who you are… (At this point, it doesn’t matter who you are…)

>>141

Since it’s a situation where my wife’s death is confirmed and there’s a possibility of complete devastation in the village, finding out the identity of the bandits can wait until after they’ve been killed and everything is resolved…

Even at the final moment when the plan fell apart completely, Madara maintains the stance that he doesn’t think he did anything wrong.

If Kabuto were to create an Edoten with the Samehada and turn it into a bomb, I think he would get pretty angry.

Is Kisame a comrade who knows everything?

>>146

I didn’t know about Obito, but I knew that the true mastermind of Akatsuki calls himself Madara, I’ve seen his true face, and I also knew about the plan for Infinite Tsukuyomi.

It’s not that the scarecrow is to blame, but it definitely looks like a case of letting someone die, doesn’t it?

It’s at best assisted suicide.

>>147

But Kakashi thinks that I killed him…

It also means that Naruto has grown up that much.

Madara seemed more tired of being on guard against plots and betrayals than actually desiring peace.

I can’t imagine myself as Hokage now, it’s disgusting.

Isn’t that an exaggeration…?

>>171

Be grateful that I haven’t said I’ll kill you on the spot!!

>>154

Although you were saying on the surface that you don’t care and that becoming Hokage is whatever, when someone looks into your true feelings, it turns out you really wanted to become Hokage. That’s what you’re being told.

Still kind.

The final battle members have too many mentally unstable people, both enemies and allies!

>>156

That is why the feelings of Hashirama, Tobirama, and the second Mizukage stand out.

>>156

That job is definitely not good for my mental health…

Because I respected him, Obito’s attitude towards Minato feels really harsh, almost like a reverse anti-fan.

“Are you giving me a lecture now? Isn’t it too late for that… Teacher?”

“You are always too late when it matters most.”

“I’m glad my master is the Hokage. Thanks to that, I’ve given up on becoming Hokage.”

“You were my master, yet you never even noticed me. That’s just how it is… with you.”

“How pitiful… You, who died as the heroic Hokage, are now exposing your shame in front of your son.”

“You can’t save anyone.”

“Naruto… that guy can’t do anything. He couldn’t even protect your mother… or his own subordinates.”

>>157

The teacher’s response is lenient, which makes it even more arrogant.

>>157

Don’t you dare mock the dad who became Hokage when you couldn’t even become Hokage yourself!!

>>172

The villain smiling slyly while providing instant support is really great.

You don’t have to feel guilty, Kakashi.

You don’t need to see the scarecrow from behind…

Conversely, it means that I respected Minato as Hokage, but I was betrayed.

Isn’t it a bit harsh that Madara’s minimum strength is just to listen to the conversation and play around, considering he’s a shadow?

>>165

It’s not good for a weak woman to be a grandchild of Hashira.

Obito was the leader of Akatsuki for various reasons, but the real reason is that he has a leadership aptitude of zero.

>>167

Well, if this guy still has a young body, he would probably just charge into other villages alone and take down tailed beasts one by one without gathering any allies…

If Obito is going to use the Infinite Tsukuyomi, then if it results in everyone being saved, that’s fine.

If it can be settled that way, I’m the one who will make it happen. No matter how grand the facade is, in the end, it’s all about me, Madara.

In the final stage, they were calling for the savior repeatedly.

I’m sorry for being a slovenly teacher.

My family is already dead.

I killed Rin.

It’s just that Madara reached the end of his lifespan due to age; if it were during his prime, he could handle everything on his own, which is unfortunate.

The fact that it’s something like 31 Ice Cream or a Susanoo clone, it’s the trashiness that comes from having a bad personality.

>>174

I’m sorry for the 5 to 1, but you are Uchiha Madara after all.

I apologize for the 5 against 1, but you are the Five Kage, aren’t you?

Rin’s presence was too big for Obito.

It would have been nice if Obito had more people to support him, like Iruka-sensei, Jiraiya, Sasuke, Sakura, and the old man from Ichiraku, but Rin was fulfilling the meaning of his life in various ways.

>>177

If anything, it’s Madara who has taken over and is brainwashing him, so it’s young Obito.

>>189

Instead of just sharing the ice, it feels like Madara would go out of his way to trample on it right in front of us.

When looking at the contribution to the world, it’s more than just the excessive remains of Tobirama, which can’t be used in peaceful times and only serve as a poison, Tsunade…

It seems like Obito wasn’t listening at all, and Minato, who was criticized, is being supported by the villain.

More than anything, it’s like a public execution that not only that Hokage-obsessed Naruto but also the whole bunch of fools understood.

It’s a bit amusing that every time the uncle shows his disgrace, Pain’s stock keeps rising.

>>184

Instead, every time the real Madara reveals his bad personality, my uncle’s reputation rises…

Naruto was the same at first, but Obito wanting to become Hokage originally stems from wanting to be recognized by everyone and to get Rin’s attention.

Having come this far and still dreaming of becoming Hokage, I truly understand it too well, so I was genuinely enraged from the bottom of my heart.

If you keep using Madara, you’ll get kicked out of the Akatsuki.

It’s great to see Naruto crying after watching Obito’s memories.

The Moon Eye Plan is so grand and sci-fi that it’s on a whole different level than what the ninja world is talking about, which is amazing.

In reality, with his overwhelming strength and versatility, if he had become Hokage, he would have been the strongest…

It’s quite funny to see Naruto casually on the side during the last battle between Naruto and Sasuke in the anime.

Someone who resembles me so much that it annoys me is somehow involved in a dark downfall that envelops the world, and on top of that, he’s Kakashi-sensei’s best friend, my dad’s student, and from the same Uchiha clan as Sasuke, right?