
Well then, if there’s no demand for it, I wonder why glass items are trending regularly.
In the future, we will also need to make thermometers, so I was researching glass, but in this era, it seems that glass tools are hardly made in Japan. It is said that they used to make glass beads, but now the raw materials and methods for making glass are not known. This is why the bowls from the Shosoin are taught to be precious in Japanese history.
So why didn’t it take root?
>>1
I don’t understand…
In Europe, there were major patrons like the church, but in Japan, it is said that temples were not demanded, or that it became a tumultuous time due to wars, and there are theories like that. However, even though it has been properly transmitted, it somehow hasn’t taken root.
Well, I guess it might have been fine if it wasn’t glass…
Wood is stronger and more fragile than pottery…
The glass that can be made in this era has low transparency and may not have many practical uses.
It was popular in Europe because it could be used for stained glass.
There are also records that it was used in the royal court because it was used in neighboring countries like Korea.
It’s not like only Japan is making something.
Is it not because of a lack of materials?
>>7
Well, the material for glass itself is quite abundant in Japan.
The material of glass is silicon, which is relatively easy to obtain, so there aren’t any issues with a shortage of raw materials.
I should have had the feeling that it was beautiful, but I wonder why.
There are plenty of records showing that emotionally, the Japanese people of the past had a strong appreciation for glass.
It’s hard to believe that something as beautiful as glass wouldn’t be in demand.
This kind of thing is good if it’s the trend of those in power… otherwise, it won’t be used.
It’s strong against heat and medicine, and it’s convenient, but glass bottles…
It seems that it is difficult to procure soda ash, the raw material, in Japan during this era.
>>14
Was it easy to obtain in Europe?
Wasn’t it more fun to be pounding iron?
>>15
Glass is different from iron products in what can be made…
In Europe, glasses were already circulating in the 1400s… but they were incredibly expensive.
It wasn’t worth the cost.
The image of properly making glass products is from after the Edo period.
It’s not that I thought it had no value, to be honest.
The reason it becomes popular (and is cherished) regularly is simply because it’s rare.
Once the rarity is gone, it will decline.
Glass products are weak in terms of strength and are based on aesthetic value.
You can’t survive without a patron to protect you.
It’s not a problem like condensation or anything.
Because it was used as a glaze.
I guess it feels like it didn’t become popular.
>>24
It’s convenient that water doesn’t seep through, but bamboo or wooden containers can also do the job.
It might be nice to look at the abundance of trees and bamboo throughout East Asia.
Like stained glass.
I can imagine that having a demand among religious groups is a very significant difference.
I wonder if the reason it doesn’t become popular is because hitting it could break it and the shards are dangerous.
Tetanus is terrifying, isn’t it?
>>26
Isn’t the pottery unchanged as well?
Perhaps it’s because the influence of the cultural sphere from China is strong.
>>27
There are records of glass being made and used on a daily basis in the Chinese cultural sphere, including Korea, so it might actually be more natural for it to take root in Japan if you consider that idea.
If you’re going to store drinking water, a gourd would be fine too…
The feudal lords were really into pottery and tea utensils.
In Europe, it was probably because it was used with the strongest level of patrons, known as the church.
In Japan, shrines and temples are not at the top level, and the country is divided into smaller parts fighting against each other.
It has been a long time since we have had the luxury to include a budget for art.
Rather, why did it become popular in the west?
>>31
The church was a patron of stained glass.
The area around Italy where the Vatican is located is quite famous.
I guess it was maintained thanks to the stained glass and might have developed from there.
Is it breakable? Is pottery also breakable…?
Because you have to heat the kiln to a high temperature.
Was there a time when fuel was precious and you couldn’t produce it?
>>36
The technology for furnaces in Japan was relatively behind, so it couldn’t produce high temperatures, yeah.
But it seems that glass has been softened and processed around the world since ancient times without having to melt it down into a gooey state, so it doesn’t seem to matter much.
Was it that being fragile was a problem?
Due to the initial strength of glass, it cannot become a tool for common people.
I need to establish a position as a high-end artwork for patrons.
Glass artisans cannot make a living.
The glass is too fragile, aren’t you stupid?
Is there no record like that?
In terms of functionality, ceramic might be sufficient.
There are ceramics, but the wooden bowls were definitely the most popular, I guess.
It probably didn’t come with any embellishments or status markers.
I feel that Japanese decorations themselves don’t have much variation to begin with.
Aren’t you afraid of it breaking in an earthquake?
>>44
This can also be said for ceramics…
When I see pottery priced incredibly high
It doesn’t seem like cost-related issues are a big concern.
I feel like it just didn’t become popular.
I wonder if they couldn’t make glass and were sold glass beads at exorbitant prices like the indigenous people of Africa or Southeast Asia.
>>46
Well, I know it came in a long time ago, but I don’t need it…
>>46
It may be considered outrageous, but unlike today, highly processed glass ornaments were quite expensive.
Venetian glass and other crafted products favored by nobles were exported throughout Europe.
>>46
Medieval Japanese people didn’t really value gemstones that much…
It is believed that the tea utensil boom was too strong.
That’s the worst, Sen no Rikyū.
>>47
It has been declining even before the tea utensils arrived.
>>53
I’m sorry, Sen no Rikyuu.
If glass vessels had some kind of value like tea utensils, they might have developed.
There are inexpensive ceramics that are sufficient for practical use.
Because there are high-end products available there.
The situation is completely different from glass, where cheap practical items cannot exist.
In the first place, the technology to create vessels and windows did not exist in Japan until the 19th century.
It was just difficult to create because it simply lacked technical superiority.
It’s the method.
It might have been lost because it needed fuel.
https://www.dogo-yamanote.com/garden/museum/history.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com
There was a suggestion that it might be a technical issue.
>>59
It says that it contains a lot of lead, so the base does not become transparent.
Well, if the texture is no different from pottery, that might be a bit awkward.
Bamboo is a deity.
The lacquerware status has increased, so wasn’t it unnecessary?
During the Yayoi period and the Kofun period, they used imported glass beads, right?
Even glass is a luxury item over there.
Before window glass became common, ordinary people used to paste paper on windows like shoji.
>>65
Could it be that it was judged that paper is more convenient than glass for letting in light? As a result, glass didn’t become widespread?
Venetian glass was imported by the Asakura and Otomo during the Warring States period.
Even today, the glass-making technique is at risk of being lost.
>https://www.dogo-yamanote.com/garden/museum/history.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com
About 200 years suddenly jumped, and I thought, “What happened during that time?!”
When it comes to the Heian aristocracy, I think of poetry, gardening, kemari, and Buddhist spells.
None of them seem to get caught on the glass.
There needs to be another reason to produce something domestically when it can be imported.
There was no need for window glass, or stained glass and curtains, because there were shoji.
It’s fine with ceramics.
Even making a mirror in a flat surface is more difficult than that bowl, so there’s no doubt about it.
I wonder what the first glass product that was available for the general public in Japan was.
Poppin?
>>77
Isn’t it a glass bead?
>>77
Ornamental goldfish bowls that were popular among wealthy merchants during the Edo period.
Jade has also declined, and I’ve suddenly lost interest in jewels and shiny things.
Well, shoji are convenient, after all…
If it doesn’t have to be clean, then just bake it in sand.