It can’t be helped; was the crime actually the work of a transformed monster or someone else, or was the victim actually more of a villain, making it so that there was no real crime at all!?

>>5

Well, in reality, those who don’t like it will also criticize the addition of a tragic past character.

If a beloved character joins the group, they’ll bring up their sad past.

It’s a powerful card, that’s for sure.

>>27

Rather, I think the backlash against the excessively tragic past is due to the underlying perception that one must not allow this to be presented.

Are you really going to use this invincible pardon against this damn opponent?

If you commit a crime, just act like it never happened!

Heroes have killed tens of thousands of people, you know…

Who joins without any sign of remorse?

Keroru is the only one left with the typical punishment.

In battle manga, characters usually become weaker.

I was attracted to the position of being a villain…

The reason Rider Man was scheduled to die in V3 was because of this…

There was also talk of the protagonist in the sequel.

>>15

Is that so?

I thought it was simply because it looked uncool.

The thread image is unrelated but has too many members added.

Do not allow the flow of the Golden Future Cup manga to become lost and then canceled.

>>16

This is the type that didn’t think of anything from the beginning and just gradually increased the number of friends.

It’s a minor detail, but the cause and effect are reversed.

>>25

It’s pretty sneaky to be reborn with the same power and settle debts considerably.

>>18

Murder is not depicted in the work, you know.

It could go as far as being a murder virgin.

People who tend to defend popular villains always bring up comparisons that seem off.

I won’t allow the trend where villain characters become more popular than hero characters and join the group.

FJTKZHR “I’ll make you an ally, but you won’t join us; you’ll just die somewhere else on a different front…”

Just finishing the purification doesn’t make it safe or permissible.

Rather, we need them to join us and work for the damage they caused to the world and the protagonist.

>>36

Reverse

If you were using a work you dislike as a punching bag online, and then the real thing came along.

>>29

Well, those kinds of people just make a fuss online, and it doesn’t affect the popularity of the work at all, so you can just leave them be.

>>29

Isn’t it just that the number of internet users has increased and it’s become more visible, rather than it actually growing?

>>53

Also, it can’t be ignored anymore because it doesn’t sell as well as it used to, that’s the combined reason.

Hyunkel, who is told to work until he dies.

>>30

This is clearly a result of reflection and judgment within the story.

Rather, it’s a rare example dealt with in the main story.

It’s been a while since I’ve seen this kid.

In Dragon Ball, anyway, if you die, a reckoning for your sins during your lifetime awaits, so it’s not as if what you did is ignored.

It is fine to be helpful in this world until then.

Since it became popular, there’s no need to join in just for that, right?

I want you to stay on the enemy side until the very end, and then deal with it as we come close to the final episode.

It’s unavoidable that it’s allowed since Shenron judges between good and evil people.

Even a rapist like me has things that are unforgivable!

It’s nice to have a happy ending together with the friends who messed up.

I want the protagonist to be treated with a somewhat bad reputation.

Even a wanted person can still find happiness.

There are those who jump high in reality and then manage to escape.

The way the horns grow in the picture is definitely that of a bad guy.

Let’s not do that.

>>45

…!!

So why do people say “Here we go again” when we do Tough and Sad Past?

>>46

I’ve never seen it said the other way around…

>>46

It’s more shocking when an enemy character suddenly fills the role of a cheerful giant companion without any warning, like a gorilla from a power king.

Without feeling guilty, they become the protagonist of a side story and start fabricating their past.

>>50

Well, ultimately, it’s me, who is decent, calm, and represents the majority, saying that I dislike (good) this.

It’s mostly just a display of ego inflation.

Everyone talks about Vegeta, but…

I think Pizarro is more suited for this.

>>54

Rather than joining, it’s more like a collaborative battle.

>>54

After that, it was officially said that everything was the fault of Pizarro’s brother; it was a poor excuse.

Do not forgive the brutal superhuman Ramen Man.

I was quite taken aback by the tweet listing characters who haven’t been attacked just to protect Bakugo, nor have they committed any acts that would qualify as bullying.

If you start talking about that, Goku has killed his grandpa too, right?

>>60

It’s a trick to have the person appear and forgive.

Even if I can accept the circumstances of the plot leading up to joining the group, I won’t allow character changes.

>>61

For now, let’s make it a siscon…

>>61

I didn’t know you had such a talent for gags…

>>61

I’ve gotten to the point where I can accept anything as long as it’s not on the Pharaoh level of Otokojuku…

>>61

“Don’t say something so amazing as ‘don’t grow for the rest of your life’…”

Is this the kind of scene where you just have to say the template lines?

>>61

People are meant to grow.

If you start talking about Pizarro, you can easily rake in about 300 replies.

It’s not necessarily the case that a sad past should be forgiven, right?

According to the theory in the thread, isn’t it a high hurdle that all allies absolutely must not commit any crimes?

But Nanashi likes Mayuri, right?

>>66

That person is like a death row inmate employed in Hunter’s Greed Island…

There is just a big difference between authority and ability.

>>66

It’s trash, but since the Grim Reaper itself is made up of trash, it’s safe theory.

It’s impressive how even when their comrades massacre others, everyone in Jujutsu Kaisen remains silent.

>>68

That work itself is already falling apart in the final act, so this topic is moot.

When it comes to Jump works, it’s just the traditional golden pattern created by Hiroshi Morikawa and Masami Kurumada.

So how does this guy become a companion, or is it more like a twist announcement event?

The theory that we are only temporarily cooperating because there is a common enemy (a third force) and that we are not allies makes me feel uneasy personally.

When I researched the sad past, I found out that TOUGH originated from a rather recent topic.

I wanted the red shoes from Nikke to join the group too.

A sad past… even if it exists, it becomes a bit troublesome when one joins without any particular atonement.

Pizarro is the player who paved the way for cooperation.

>>80

Road!?

>>81

When you play a mobile game that has been running for several years, you might find characters who were treated as arch-enemies in the storyline now being playable and wearing swimsuits.

In Dragon Ball, Goku usually forgives everyone.

>>84

Don’t you think it’s better to channel that surging sense of righteous indignation into activities in the real world?

Support for the victims’ side in trials of heinous crimes.

>>101

Rather, if someone pretending to be an ally comes forward like that, it would trouble the victims and their families.

It would be better for the world if you put effort into expressing your feelings about creative works.

>>84

When I see someone declaring that “this person has done 〇〇, so they can never be part of the group!” I can’t help but think, are they reading the manga with that kind of scoring mentality…?

As expected of Rose!

The story of Jujutsu was supposed to be about the protagonist and Junpei killing, but I feel like Maki is something different.

Frankie…

Since I played FateExtra but not FGO, I was shocked to hear that Sesshouin Kiara becomes a companion.

>>93

Fate has a convenient setting for that kind of thing.

There is no correlation between having a sad past and becoming a villain in the present or joining forces with one.

I loved that part where they were still struggling with the Hinomaru Sumo!

I have a memory that the swimwear frog was cute.

Mayuri was forgiven for thinking that it is only natural for the soldiers to dedicate their lives for the Gotei 13.

>>99

It’s seriously impressive that it’s not just accepted in the work itself, but also by the readers on some kind of vibe.

Is there a character who joins the team after raping a teammate?

>>100

There are even romances that start with rape, so there might be some if you look for them.

I think people who say things like in the thread image are very sensitive to parent characters.

Hokuto no Ken is impressive for not lowering the characters while killing them off.

>>121

Kenshiro, who was made a fool unable to see through the impostor…

>>135

Manga from that era is all about the sense of life… that’s why it can be interesting in some parts.

Looking at it now, there are some things that make no sense.

>>103

Toki…

>>127

The story about Kenshiro, Toki, and Raoh’s sudden drop in stocks is off-limits.

If Vegeta is safe, then it’s mostly safe, right?

It means that the oldest four people are good, right?

When trying to bring out Mayuri-sama, it’s troublesome that there are too many parts of that Soul Society that need to be criticized in the first place…

I like Mayuri by himself, but I dislike it when Uryu does gags with Mayuri.

If the conflict arises from a purpose that is neither good nor evil, cooperative development shines.

Jubilo’s manga will be settled at the end even if it becomes part of the group…

>>114

Where’s the tiger?

It’s probably safe for a team with guys who have scars on their shins to mix in that kind of thing.

It can be said that Vegeta truly became an ally after he self-destructed…

Even in Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai, enemies become allies, right?

It was shocking to read that Vegeta already has a child with Bulma.

It’s strange that Vegeta has caused more damage since going to Planet Namek than when he was really an enemy.

Dragon Ball is easy to read because many of the main characters are realists.

I wonder why characters from enemy factions in mobile games always seem so appealing.

I understand the desire for it to become playable.

>>124

It’s just that you get tired of seeing your allies.

I like the manga of the person in the thread, so I hope they do their best.

There is a feeling of “I can’t complain about battle manga or worlds like during wartime.”

>>126

If you reject the joining of usable allies and struggle against the boss, people will have a lot to say about that…

>>126

For instance, in real medieval times or the Warring States period, it was common for former enemies to become allies just a little while ago.

>>126

We fought against each other, but now we are allies.

A relationship where there’s no concept of forgiving or not forgiving is nice, isn’t it…?

In such examples, Vegeta is often mentioned, but did he really become an ally?

Since it’s the final Boo saga of the original work, it’s definitely not understated.

Because Mayuri-sama didn’t say to forgive me, and it’s not like we’ve become allies or anything.

But honestly, it’s common in Fujita’s manga, but it feels really unfair that the person who committed a crime is forgiven yet dies.

In the end, it feels like the protagonist is just not getting their hands dirty and letting others handle it, right?

>>132

If it’s constantly the case of letting them die because keeping them alive would be a hassle, then that might be true.

Even so, there are ones like Vilma who die…

Mayuri-sama is being forgiven because the organization itself is not pursuing it.

It becomes a matter of whether to allow the organization that makes that decision.

In this category, Arknights was shocking as a mobile game.

In the previous episode, an enemy who seemed like they could become an ally dies so easily, yet the enemy executives who have committed mass murder until now easily become allies.

I was completely taken aback.

>>136

If you’re talking about doubles, then there hasn’t been a mass murder in the first place.

>>136

It seems that some things are getting complicated in Eburana right now.

It’s hard to say it’s a guard.

>>163

Since I’m part of the Doctor LOVE faction, the conversation is over, right?

It’s just the antisemites who are nitpicking without any experience.

If the pattern of a prisoner fighting evil due to their potential or a shared interest is ruled out, then G Gundam’s Argo and Tales’ Regal would also be ruled out.

The complaint is about preferential treatment and convenience that don’t make sense, yet those who like bad people quickly shift the focus.

In the case of Hokuto, it’s a type of work where the characters who become allies and the characters who are meant to die as enemies are quite clearly decided and progressed with, you know?

Even if there are those who become sub-regulars in the ○○ edition, fundamentally it’s a work where Kenshiro travels through the wasteland alone.

There’s no time to dawdle! While Amagin is seriously traumatizing one of the main characters’ childhood friends and heroine with rape.

I didn’t join the group… but I became a partner and turned into a number one level popular character, which I still think is amazing.

Well, if you say you won’t forgive, then we’ll have no choice but to kill each other.

In terms of sin, Goku, who killed his father, is also a major sinner, so it’s safe.

>>145

Goku has been saying Goku since a while ago, but it’s an unconscious accident, right?

For example, if a toddler brought out a knife and dropped it, killing a parent who was taking a nap, would you say, “Evil! Unforgivable!”?

The four oldest are hated by Shirogane, and during the village burning, they don’t have a sense of self, so it really feels like they’re just being vented on, which makes it somewhat understandable.

Majunior’s Piccolo isn’t doing anything bad, you know…

You were enjoying tormenting the clearly weaker ones, weren’t you… and yet, now you’re saying you didn’t really want to do it…

After dying in a good way, stuff the memories into a clone to make the sins from their previous life ambiguous.

>>152

After all, it’s entertainment.

The mob that was killed is nothing but a mob that was killed.

If you’re going to kill a mob, it’s just as shameful as peeing standing up.

Whether to treat the opponent that was harmed by that guy as just a mere setting.

I think it also depends on how deeply you think about it.

I don’t think you can say that either reading is correct.

One-way streets became popular too…

>>156

Mikoto is also guilty, right? I honestly thought, “Huh?” when I heard that.

>>156

It is unfortunate to be made to regret it all the time.

Vegeta’s priority of having children before properly becoming part of the team is so unique.

Moreover, the opponent is Bulma, the initial heroine.

The type of protagonist is also significant.

It feels convenient to forgive when you have a noble cause or a spirit of philanthropy, but if you’re the type who acts out of calculation, it’s natural.

>>160

It’s acceptable to have a protagonist who, for the sake of justice, can swallow dirt or is, conversely, like a lump of compassion.

I think it’s been a topic of conversation lately, or rather, it has been continuously mentioned, but Pizarro.

>>165

Is it someone who seriously hates Pizarro discovered on the knowledge bag?

>>165

It’s unavoidable because the officials are unnecessarily meddling with this and that.

I don’t know what I want to do.

I feel uneasy if there are no depictions of properly suffering from the sins one has committed or repenting for them.

>>166

Stop sulking forever…

Joining Quattro-Bajina was shocking, wasn’t it?

I was sad that the design changed; I liked the one from the one-shot with Kaeru-chan better.

Even if we make something like Wild 7, we are still just expendable pawns who were once criminals.

But it’s also true that these guys were originally violent criminals.

In a temporary alliance, even a villain of the Joker type can be forgiven.

>>171

The Joker’s uncle calls himself a dark hero…

>>171

The Russian Doll Murder Case is good, isn’t it?

>>182

The downside of being able to show a perfect temporary alliance like this or in dodgeball with hunters is the desire to treat later embarrassing moments as fake.

What the hell, you guys are disappearing in such a nice way for the fifth season of Symphogear…

Curses make no sense compared to things like Maki or the intestines.

The one-way street was created for the purpose of killing, as it was a clone made for that reason.

I don’t know how things are right now…

When I think about it calmly, the Namekian who hasn’t been revived was killed by me!

It’s strange that even the Namekians themselves seem to just pass it off normally…

>>177

The manga is delving into that kind of story.

>>177

Well, even if I don’t come back to life at that time, I can probably come back to life eventually.

Luca Bright should have searched for a way to join the party.

>>178

It just ends up being ruined when you try to make it into something like “Let’s be friends in a remake!”

Just like Pizarro.

Char did not commit any wrongdoing beyond that of a soldier.

Killing members of the Zabi family is actually more of a good deed…

Pizarro trying to get some official support is creepy.

But you all like Mayuri, right? I say that, but I don’t think people who have a hard time joining characters that are too evil really like that either, even though it’s mixed in somehow.

Well, it’s off to compare it in the first place since Mayuri-sama herself is in a different position from those.

Until now, I only had a sad past, but suddenly a worthless past has sprouted; what a strange connection.

>>192

This is all there is to it.

Isn’t it okay to go with this kind of thing…? That’s what I thought while watching the current A-rank party and so on.

My former companion, the female wizard, turned over a new leaf but got fired from the adventurers’ guild right away…

Moreover, the male childhood friend from the former party seems to have a fate where he will be eaten alive for eternity…

>>193

That woman will normally become a companion.

The childhood friend is already a worthless person and has no chance for redemption.

Mayuri

Orochimaru

Caesar Crown

I don’t actually like Mayuri.

I think people who start worrying that something like this gaining popularity compared to picarésque or decadent characters are too rigid in their thinking and have a narrow perspective.

The incompetent Mayuri from the early part is a different person from the competent Mayuri in the latter part.