It must be the original form of the heroes.
I think it’s intentional that it remains small while becoming 4.
The waistband has disappeared and turned into a rubber waist, which is disastrously loose.
>>3
I think it’s amazing how it gives off a cheap cosplay vibe.
Why did you choose rubber pants?
Not tight.
The right proportions are too strange and simply make me feel uneasy.
>>6
Since it’s a child form, it would have been nice if they had prepared a new form that suited it…
I really dislike how it seems like they’re drawing it with the intention of having rubber in the texture.
What happened to the obi (sash)?
Who do you think would be happy about the development where the long-preserved Ultra 3 in DAIMA loses roughly and Ultra 4 also loses roughly in a surprise transformation?
>>9
If I had at least performed to the best of my ability, I might have been able to say I was treated better than GT…
>>9
And the way to overcome that predicament is Goriro’s rebellion, with whom I have no memory of forming any bonds.
Are you mixing the colors with Super Saiyan Blue Vegito?
You’ve made a mistake with the color specification.
>>12
It can’t be helped; it’s not your design, it’s Nakatsuru-kun’s design.
Are you trying to criticize Mr. Toriyama?
>>13
I think we’ve already exceeded the limits of the deceased barrier.
>>13
This development was probably thought up by Mr. Nakatsuru from the anime design.
Introducing a format that doesn’t need to be progressive as a prelude.
>>21
Why does Nakatsuru have the authority to interfere with the story?
Isn’t the right balance a bit off?
The arms are like Franky’s.
Does that mean GT Goku is wearing two belts?
Isn’t the part with the black hair and makeup omitted?
The deformed body shape is surprisingly difficult to balance…
The kumadori is properly done, right?
Whoa… what is this ugly kid…
Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle’s SD Gogeta 4
This has been Toriyama’s recent style.
I’m quite bothered by the fact that my arm hair is uneven.
The anime staff has a history of ignoring the original author and incorporating their own fabrication.
I think SD and infantilization are completely different things.
3 was also questionable, and simply put, the design of DAIMA’s proportions is garbage.
To be honest, it’s a mystery why the pants change when it becomes 4.
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>>32
Regardless of the battle content being sluggish, don’t lump together those who have defeated the boss and those who haven’t.
>>37
It’s better to defeat the boss on the right side since there’s less of that cringey bravado.
>>70
First of all, it looks way too uncool, so that won’t happen.
>>70
It’s becoming increasingly difficult to defend.
I think that if the proportions, colors, costume design, and balance were good, the arrangements would have been more accepted.
Kaio-ken sound effect
Super Saiyan effect.
Appearance of Super 4
The red color of Super Saiyan God.
Selfish Aura
Stupidly uncool tracksuit pants.
The image in the thread is truly the culmination of Goku…
Even at this point, those idiots who still say it’s the anime staff’s fault! It’s the anime staff’s fault! Toriyama-sensei hasn’t done anything! must be suffering from some kind of illness.
>>35
It’s the same problem to blame Toriyama when the officials haven’t said anything.
>>39
Ino stated that all the stories were conceived by Mr. Toriyama…
>>41
I said that you have thought about it.
It is not said that it reproduces that 100% faithfully.
>>47
Is it okay in Earth language?
>>39
???
The hair on my arms really looks like three-quarter sleeves, and it’s so uncool.
Looking at it this way, it’s not just the rubber of the pants.
I’m also concerned about the color.
Isn’t it more that the anime staff isn’t doing anything, which is why it has come to this?
>>40
Rather, the anime staff is always doing whatever they please, right?
It’s funny that no matter what you look at, it’s a rubber pants.
Is it a turtle even for GT?
>>44
For example, chimpanzees have a grip strength of 500 kg and their hands are quite long.
I don’t really mind the size of my hands that much.
I always think, couldn’t they do something about the art being so sloppy despite it being an OPED?
The point that Toriyama Akira’s original idea was used in 4 has really become suspicious.
Well, the face too…
The story of the movie Broly was all created by Akira Toriyama.
On top of that, the full power form was added by the anime director arbitrarily.
It was the waistband of those pants…
Iyoku firmly played catch with Toriyama and discussed things thoroughly.
He’s saying things like that, so he’s quite the accomplice as well.
There’s no way that Akira Toriyama would come up with a scenario for the fourth one without being involved at all.
I can’t help but feel that it’s just a convenient excuse like “it’s original content but popular, so…” just like with Broly.
Since the original author has written a plot where it becomes 4,
Nakazuru just drew the characters as they are, right?
Maybe Toriyama had already forgotten that 4 already exists.
So no one has told Toriyama that 4 already exists.
>>57
If that’s the logic, then Akira Toriyama must think 3 is 2.
>>58
Did Akira Toriyama forget about the third thing too?
Even though it clearly states Super Saiyan 3 in the original work.
>>64
It’s not strange at all since I’ve even forgotten about the character.
>>64
I thought it was 2 instead of 3, so I’m forgetting 2.
Even if the old man powers up and turns into Super Saiyan 4, it doesn’t resonate with me at all…
>>59
That place also pierces Orange Piccolo.
The tail has become cheap after the ceremony of raising it, and finally awakened 4 through the tears of bread after going through the golden monkey.
What was the required Bluetooth wave value?
>>60
An abnormal amount of blue waves was emitted from Nebba’s palm…
>>76
Even someone like Vegeta can do something similar…
After all, black hair is better.
Unlike fusion and potara that involve magical elements.
I don’t like how the outfits pop up with the Saiyan transformations.
Like Dragon Ball DAIMA (serialized in Saikyō Jump)
Why did you intentionally make it look uncool when it would have been fine to just make it smaller as it is?
It’s only about two more episodes, so it doesn’t really matter.
I don’t even know why it was put out.
Did you really start DAIMA because you wanted to do GT in the Reiwa era?
It would fit in the world of Nekomajin.
Why do foreigners like this?
It’s kind of weird that only the tips of my arms have clearly stopped having hair.
Proportions for mobile games
The design of the concentrate really is like this… and I completely agree.
Including the waist elastic.
I can imagine this figure saying “Uhhhyohhyo.”
I… am a person filled with anger.
As expected, the design on the left is good.
The story of GT is hardly used at all, but I understand why Super 4 (and some bosses) are in high demand in the game.
I would prefer a normal black hair color.
It seems like a Goku with this kind of proportions might appear in content like Saikyō Jump.
The thick and unbalanced arms are creepy.
Son Goku (Mini) Super Saiyan 4 (DAIMA)
It seems like it will become a rather complicated name.
Huh, is this Goku and not Gogeta?
This is the coloring of the Limit Break of the Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan 4 from Heroes…
>>91
Are you suddenly talking about that doujin work?
>>96
DAIMA is also at a doujin level, right?
>>104
It’s a work that has the author’s involvement similar to that of Z…
>>96
Even if it’s called a doujin, it’s an official game, and I just thought that way because it existed first.
Is this what the bird left behind in the end?
>>92
This is how it has been from the start.
>>93
I’ve heard quite a bit about the opinion that Akira Toriyama didn’t have a good fit with the later part of Dragon Ball and that he didn’t have much attachment to it.
>>103
Don’t get too involved with DAIMA…
>>93
There’s no doubt about that.
Vaguely remember Super Saiyan 4 (Gomu West)
I couldn’t come up with any impressions other than that it became 4.
>>95
This is it.
There wasn’t really any exciting developments or foreshadowing, so I was constantly thinking, “Huh? Did it suddenly become 4…?” while watching.
Moreover, even if it becomes that way, there’s no need to recreate a place that isn’t that strong.
I think a story that was conjured up in a state where old age and the individual’s personal feelings aren’t that involved is just like this…
What I want to draw is an adventure action story, but it’s unfortunate that what is being asked for is an inflation battle.
When compared to the original, it feels like the AI generated it from vague memories.
I’ve never seen a dragon as strong as that, aside from evil dragons…
I believe I will evolve one more step.
You say it’s vague, but Nakatsuru is also participating in DAIMA, so isn’t it intentional like this?
I realized that the difference in color between body hair and hair is really important.
Well, since Toriyama is heavily involved in the production, it’s unlikely that he had no touch on the setting or design of the final boss battle.
It’s just too uncool.
The fact that adding the so-called “super” element has tarnished Ultra Instinct is just terrible…
>>107
The overwhelming sadness of suddenly being caught up in something while watching from a distance is unimaginable…
If you make it exactly the same, it will end up being like the same world line as GT, so a minor change is necessary.
The third eye Goma is unbelievably uncool, can’t something be done about it?
>>109
This is a legitimate Dragon Ball enemy.
If you want to get revenge on GT, I wanted you to take it seriously…
There are various problems, but there are things I like about it, so I can’t completely hate it, GT.
It’s a doujin work by an air player.
I don’t really mind if it’s uncool, but it’s just too rough.
I can only feel that it’s really sloppy.
There is no respect for either GT or 4 because the logical progression within GT leading to 4 is being ignored.
>>118
When it comes to Goku’s power-ups above 3, it’s obviously 4! I feel a sense of being pushed by old fans.
If there are no documents, that’s one thing, but it’s someone whose existence can easily be found through a simple internet search, so they must be deliberately avoiding it.
I don’t understand the main intention, but…
Actually, the manga I wrote after DB is Kajika, so DAIMA hasn’t changed its sense from back then at all.
>>120
Kajika was cool! Cool! Right??
>>120
Don’t ignore Tokimeka, Buburu, and COWA.
The one with red hair is Gogeta.
Goku and Vegeta separately aren’t really red.
In the first place, Goma’s power-up is also sloppy…
I became Super 3, which I had been holding back— I lost.
I unexpectedly reached Ultra 4 → I’m at a disadvantage.
Mr. Toriyama’s shifts are amazing.
Wuhyohhyoh
I truly think it was really good that you made it a different world.
I thought it would be crazy if the continuation of the ultra became this.
It’s become 4 without going through things like a golden ape without a tail or acquiring reason.
This is a transformation using an incredible value of the Bluts wave from the Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta method…
Woohoo!
The design of DAIMA Super 4 is bad, or rather, the base children’s design itself is somewhat strange.
>>132
This is it.
It’s like they faithfully recreate the bad parts of Toriyama’s art in a digital format.
There are no properly designed characters in DAIMA.
>>134
Goriro is decent, right?
Nebba’s maneuvering is completely like that of Whis and the others, so I can only think that you should do something about it.
Regardless of the success, the transformation process and appearance were incredibly cool, so to discard those parts and make Ultra 4 worthless without even lasting a single episode, who is this development really meant for…?
Even a half-hearted Dragon Ball anti-fan wouldn’t come up with something like this…
I understand.
You’re going to become a Super Saiyan 5 after this, right?
When I look only to the right in a still image, it reminds me of avatar customization culture.
Even in Super 3 or Super 4, they fight hard but lose, so it doesn’t seem like there’s much of a difference in strength.
Super 4 itself is a weak form without any active presence, so it’s probably like this.
>>142
It’s funny that they are deliberately recreating that unpopular element.
If they bring out Super 4 in the latest Dragon Ball installment.
>>142
You might think they would take super cool actions to silence this kind of layer…
DAIMA’s lack of storytelling sense is critically severe.
Next week, Gogeta (mini) will probably be coming out anyway.
>>144
If it’s following the flow of Z, it might be Super 4 Vegito (mini).
>>144
I will return to being an adult with my wish, so that won’t happen.
If they come out with a new form next time, I will seriously question the meaning of releasing 4.
>>145
There must be a meaning.
The new form is rated stronger than Super 4.
>>150
I’m sorry, but I can’t see the point in dragging out something that’s already in the past and ranking it.
Even with a muscular kid, Gotenks is impressive, so the peak of Toriyama-sensei’s work was amazing.
But you know… I think the part where Super Saiyan 4 appears in GT, pulling out the tail with pliers, dragged on a bit too much…
I can’t help but wonder if you just want to quickly finish this series and go back to the main one.
>>148
Well, it’s not surprising that Bandai thinks that way.
>>154
The people who were causing a huge ruckus just because Akira Toriyama wasn’t involved have been silenced.
>>175
At the point when 4 was released, it should not be 100% based on Akira Toriyama’s ideas in terms of storytelling.
Some say this is the culmination of all previous transformations.
Usually, there’s no one who would be happy to see their culmination being treated carelessly, right?
At the point where they were saying Vegeta Super Saiyan 3 is good, some viewers had already lost their minds.
It’s a child form!?
The sleeves are short, making it look a bit awkward.
Vegito Super 4 is here using the clinging bug!
I understand that they are struggling, but saying they are not active at all is an exaggeration.
Super 4 has a long screen time, so I understand why it can be called the face of GT.
I don’t really have any particular thoughts other than thinking this is for the sake of buzz.
If I had won with this, it would be lame, but I could say I won with Super Saiyan 4, but that’s not the case, right?
Well, as long as I’m not losing to a ray gun, it’s about what you’d expect for a debut match.
Redemption of one’s tarnished reputation.
We need to ask Shenron to ensure that we can get excited about the form where we lose just because the enemy got bigger and revert back to normal.
If we end with a new form, there will be extra time, so if we combine, there’s even the possibility of a time-out from the playful approach leading to a Spirit Bomb.
Personally, I think it’s the third one who became the undercard for Super Saiyan 4 and ended up being the punching bag that is more unfortunate.
>>167
I was fooled by the PV that seemed to say, “Super Saiyan 3 is going to be amazing!” and I looked ridiculous.
The red Porunga feels the strongest.
The performance of the veteran in GT’s Super 4 was also great…
Super 3 has been in a biting position for many years, so it’s no big deal now.
Goku is done with his work in the Buu Saga, so it’s fine now.
Unless it’s that Goma is on the verge of dying and powering up even further with the Third Eye.
I want you to become stronger and not seem to take any damage at all.
There are no elements that make Goku’s side look strong.
Goriro was asking to be turned back into an adult, so next week we will be able to see the adult form…
>>174
Goriro doesn’t have any particularly strong memories, so even if he betrays Arins and the others, it won’t feel like anything significant at all.
From the moment King Goma was defeated by a flick on the forehead from the red Porunga, isn’t it impossible to get excited about anything else?
If Jiren had lost to Shenron with a flick, it would have been a total letdown.
Originally, Super Saiyan 4 is a transformation that allows one to control the power of the Great Ape and return to an adult form that surpasses the power of the Ultimate Dragon Balls; simply looking like that while remaining a child is not enough…
This is something that was forcibly drawn out with a mysterious power-up.
I think it’s really awful that they can’t even reach a level where they can say they want to meet someone who can handle Goku.
Many people can’t understand that GT isn’t connected in the first place.
>>179
That’s why I’m saying don’t put out 4.
It was a farewell party for Akira Toriyama’s fantasy.
>>180
Did you not finish it during the time of Resurrection F…?
It’s fine that Neva gives a new form, but I think it would be better if it was a more original transformation instead of Super Saiyan 4.
Well, I hope that this will eliminate the foolishness of arguing over things like the official history or parallel timelines.
Once you start looking for the true history, it will definitely involve Toriyama heavily.
>>186
Although I recognized you as my successor, Toyota…
>>193
Though the successor is below the person themselves…
>>193
If it is a different person recognized as the author himself and his successor.
The person themselves is prioritized.
It may be frustrating, but there’s nothing that can be done about it.
It’s a new form, so at first I thought, is this how it is, like a beast? Or maybe it’s okay to be overwhelming…
>>187
Maybe the story will end once we defeat Goma…
There won’t be any further power-ups, and there are probably no hidden bosses either.
In DAIMA, the simplicity of just being bigger equals stronger is terrible.
For now, if I can just pull off Super 4, it should get a good reaction.
It’s like you can see through to the rough idea behind it…
Isn’t there anyone who thinks they’re connected to GT?
It’s just that I’m failing as a redo of GT.
Then make the protagonist, who is just as strong as Kajika, shine.
Isn’t it great that it’s such an amazing Namekian, and wouldn’t it have been better if they had some incredible potential unleashed or something?
Even with black hair, stick it up.
>>195
Ultimate Goku, huh…
I mean, the only official history is in the manga, right?
I wanted the Third Eye Goma to undergo a transformation instead of just getting bigger because its design is terrible.
The potential release of Namek must not exceed the potential release of the Kaioshin!
>>198
Aren’t we originally both residents of the same demon world?
You guys were calling me the red monkey during the abemaGT commentary, weren’t you?
Since the relationship between Gloria and Alins is not depicted, I wonder why Alins is being listened to.
Are you being held by a weakness?
>>201
In other words, since Glorio hasn’t been explored at all, not knowing is more than just about the relationship with Arins…
I would really like to see the Super Granola arc as a regular anime.
I don’t care about Moro.
>>204
I want to see Merus and the Grand Kaioshin.
Originally, the true historical route is that Goku dies from heart disease, so all developments that twist that are considered parallel.
If you’re going to reveal Super 4, it might be easier to understand if you mention that it was when the character was made a child at the very beginning, so the tail returned because their body became that of a child.
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