
It’s a tiring manga.
If you say it, you’ll understand; it’s just the surface.
If I’m blamed that much, there’s nothing I can do…
A man who doesn’t discuss wanting children before marriage is a loser.
I thought it was a conversation between two guys, but it turned out to be a woman.
>>6
What on earth is going to be born~~!
Is this really 121 episodes of such laziness?!
Well, this is the man’s fault.
It’s tough, same-sex marriage.
First, let’s separate and make the breakdown of the marriage a clear fact before bringing it to court.
It sounds like the man is speaking as if there is no cost involved…
I’m scared of what will happen if I get enraged…
Why don’t we align things before marriage?
>>14
That’s just not normal, right?
Decide whether you want children before getting married.
>>11
It’s not that I’m making fun of it, but isn’t the depiction of the flow from the old evil of this manga to the latest evil done in such a way?
>>16
But I think this woman is saying the right thing.
>>24
It’s not something you should say after getting married… You should have said it before.
>>24
I think it’s absurd to continue a marriage with someone you think might become enraged even while having a discussion…
I won’t let go of a convenient partner for you…
I guess she thinks what she’s saying is justified.
You’re determined to claim compensation, aren’t you…
It seems that having children under this woman will only lead to unhappiness.
Alright, let’s evaporate.
>>23
You’re a bit too decisive.
Isn’t it normal to be able to establish a divorce agreement based on the differing intentions about having children?
I think you should discuss it before marriage; it can easily become a reason for divorce.
>>36
This sums it up.
If one party doesn’t want a divorce but the other does, it can still be established normally.
If fearing what might happen if I speak up is a cost, then if there is trust that I won’t be met with anger, it would be no cost at all.
What is this guy seriously saying, that he didn’t scrimp on costs because he trusts?
Even just on this page, it’s the woman who’s angry, so what’s going on…
Not clearly deciding whether to have children is the man’s fault.
Why don’t you agree to the divorce that you brought up yourself?
There is a problem with the man who ended up marrying such a crazy woman.
I can only say it’s a way of speaking that conveys a certainty of not getting agitated.
I think I’d be surprised if my wife suddenly used some really obscure slang terms related to sex work.
>>49
You’re shifting the topic again like that!!
I think it would be difficult if the woman is not recognized as having engaged in any wrongful acts, such as infidelity.
Clearly refusing the divorce.
>>50
Such a stance is close to the principle of culpability, but the court is clearly not taking that position and has adopted the stance that it is fine as long as it is bankrupt.
So you can get divorced without worrying about it.
>>50
Because it is recognized as mental domestic violence and moral harassment.
I guess I’ll have to record it…
That’s why you guys are losers; you can’t talk calmly because you’re so angry.
There are quite a few cases where women commit domestic violence against men, and it is said that those cases can be even more extreme.
>>53
They throw things and use tools, you know…
For now, I want to strangle this man’s colleague or something.
It’s quite a hassle that it has to go all the way to court.
>>57
I understand that you want to thoroughly wear this man out.
This is… evil.
If a weapon is brought out, there’s no distinction between men and women anymore.
Is the women’s restroom sign 🚺 at the end meant to be ironic?
If it takes courage to refuse in a situation where you are being taken advantage of, then…
Isn’t it just a matter of the wife getting on top and having intercourse?
It’s not just a disagreement about whether or not to have children that’s enough to cry.
In addition, if there are factors such as living separately or a loss of trust, they can become grounds for divorce.
It strongly feels like it’s just emulating the phrasing.
Go sneak a peek at places like Hatsugen Komachi or Garu-chan and improve your emulation accuracy.
My husband, who won’t divorce me, is so whiny and gross.
You’re just making excuses for not wanting kids after the fact.
I saw that you might have a past of being raped.
>>67
I think it’s an experience with the sex industry.
I mean, why can you find and bring back such a silly manga?
>>68
I want a del.
>>68
You’re shifting the topic again like that!!
>>68
I think it’s more popular than the discontinued manga that anonymous likes because it has 121 episodes.
>>83
Isn’t that not the kind of story?
>>86
That’s the kind of story it is.
Mii-chan is also quite trivial, yet extremely popular and is being posted everywhere.
>>104
Saying that being turned into a toy is “very popular” might be misleading…
>>109
By the way, it’s also very popular outside.
>>104
Why did the discussion shift to the content when you were talking about popularity in the first episode?
>>111
Even if it’s silly, it’s popular, that’s the story.
>>83
Isn’t the argument that a large number of episodes means the series is ongoing and popular?
Does it matter whether it’s trivial or not?
>>148
That’s because there is an anonymous person who said it was trivial in the first place.
If you’re going to argue, I want you to understand the original context of the response properly.
>>160
Isn’t that the original no-name argument and not your argument?
The absurdity reinforces the original nameless argument, but can’t it also fail to reinforce your argument?
>>170
It’s a story about how, even if something is trivial, it’s still popular somewhere, but is that really so difficult?
The section on slang is such a huge noise…!!
>>73
Why does this part feel oddly like a gag manga?!
>>73
I wonder what the intention behind including this is.
Is it someone whose wife was working in the sex industry?
Is this kind of thing a true story? I really want to believe it’s fiction.
Well then, let’s get a divorce due to a difference in values.
When it comes to compensation for damages or division of property, it becomes a hassle.
>>75
I think the property division should be considered almost zero because it only arises from the shared property earned since marriage.
Does knowing that kind of erotic term mean I should go to a brothel?
It’s a manga that’s hard to understand even after reading all the threads!
I can’t think of any reason for not getting a divorce other than hating my husband… Why do you think it’s possible to continue a married life when it’s come to this?
A worthless woman.
You’re just a special cursed object that makes everyone around you unhappy just by being alive.
I feel like it’s also unfair not to say that until we get married, you know!?
For now, I guess delete is fine…
It seems like it could be a reason for divorce if the partner has no intention of having children.
So, did he clearly say that from today he will take off the condom when making babies with his wife?
>>87
Yes
I think that’s about it.
>>87
I do have fantasies about being forced to make my wife do NN.
If it’s just this much, I can understand that kind of excuse and way of complaining, but episode 121!?
Isn’t the punchline a bit weak? This isn’t going to be funny at all.
Who does this comic want to blame?
>>90
It’s your wife, right?
In other words, there’s no reason for my husband to blame me.
>>90
A challenge to all “chee beef” boys.
>>106
The meaning of “Chi-gyu” has spread too much, and now I don’t understand it anymore.
>>112
A common situation where a woman’s feelings cause the enemy’s range to expand too much.
>>106
Chigyu feels like it doesn’t matter much since I can’t get married…
>>131
My husband is being called “cheese cow” now, but he’s an old-fashioned guy.
I can somewhat understand what she wants to say; while I really dislike her attitude, I can’t help but wonder, in the end, what is it that this woman actually wants?
I think this manga is supposed to focus on women’s issues after this.
This is the first time a man has been blamed to this extent, so I am worried if it’s okay.
>>94
The selfishness of a woman who is like a big child has already been thoroughly explored, including the protagonist, so this story won’t progress any further with just this.
One side wants it, the other side does not want it.
If discussions do not lead to a resolution, it can be grounds for divorce.
A woman who knows more about the sex industry than men is already not normal, you know.
What, is it a promotion for a manga?
I just learned about NNOK for the first time…
Even though there is a strong will not to give birth to this point, saying it’s courageous to go against the “flow of men” is just ridiculous.
It might be because I’ve pieced together women’s opinions from the internet.
Even in discussions like this, there are definitely those who aggressively take the opposite stance or hate anonymous users to such an extent.
NNOK looked like TNOK.
The normal foundation of a couple’s relationship is sex.
If that’s not the case, then you should have said so in advance.
>>107
I’m just saying to put on the rubber, so I’m not refusing to do it.
They keep saying “Cheese cow,” but based on the image that’s being talked about in society, I don’t think they’ll even get to this issue.
>>108
Nowadays, “chīgyū” also includes non-delivery men for women.
The woman is on the side of moral harassment.
>>108
All men who infringe upon women’s rights are Chibou.
>>103
So, you’re doing it, huh?
You want children over there, but I don’t want children here.
If you really want a child, get a divorce and look for someone else.
I have no intention of getting a divorce!
Is this a prelude to getting killed?
>>115
Well then, this will become a serious issue, won’t it…
It’s true that if the wife is working and not in a financial situation that depends on her husband, then they should have discussed it beforehand, but it’s also an issue from both sides for neglecting to reconcile.
If a full-time housewife does not give birth to children when her husband wants them, I feel it is dishonest, and I would want a divorce.
Has your drawing become worse than before?
Isn’t this normally a reason for divorce?
>>122
It will become.
Boring.
Is this another manga that just provokes fights between men and women? Is that all you can come up with?
>>124
The situation is so abnormal that it feels like it’s stuck in a previous state…
It’s just a story that ends with “What are you talking about?” since it’s a reason that can normally lead to divorce.
Has it become a world where even married men are treated as “Chii-gyu”?
>>126
I became it.
Even if you’re married, with a host, or handsome, you’re still treated like a Chiyu.
>>133
When it expands that much, it doesn’t resonate with me anymore… What happened…?
>>136
Anyway, a man who offends a woman’s feelings is treated like a “Chii-gyu.”
Recently, I’ve started saying it to women as well.
>>143
Sukiya is fine to get angry.
>>143
The Whole Humanity Cheese Gyudon Plan
>>143
Wasn’t it something like pork bowl…?
>>154
She is also referred to as a “Chiyu woman.”
>>163
It’s an evolution that makes honorary men even more despicable…
>>143
There are quite a few women who seem like they would eat cheese gyudon…
>>133
“But those who aspire to be the number one host don’t eat gyudon, as Roland-san said…”
>>159
It’s not about whether you’re eating gyudon or not; if you’ve upset a woman’s feelings, you’re treated like a “chi-gyu.”
>>159
Don’t take seriously what those garbage insects who are just copying the names of established manufacturers say…
I somewhat understand why this kind of woman has short hair.
Kuu~
But if it goes to court and leads to divorce, it would prove that the man is at fault, right?
>>132
Is a divorce trial meant to decide which party is at fault?
>>132
It has been said many times, but this woman’s argument does not hold water.
>>132
There’s no need to go out of your way to spread the court’s decision; it doesn’t really matter, does it?
If a couple does not cooperate in making children, it can be considered a defect, and you can seek compensation for damages and get a divorce.
Are you flying between the frames?
If you want to get a divorce in this situation, it’s fine, but I still can’t understand.
She’s just a worthless woman who only wants to push her own selfish desires, refusing to agree to divorce or take care of the children.
Let’s talk openly from the start, even if it’s a hassle, because there are stories that make me think I never expected that kind of person, regardless of gender.
It’s a significant flaw, and her personality is so bad that it seems like being fixated on a woman like this is just a desire that has made her unable to move forward.
Masturbation manga
The refusal to have children can be a reason for divorce.
Women in the world should boast more about the good qualities of their husbands and boyfriends and take the upper hand.
>>151
If you start bragging about your husband’s good qualities, you’ll seriously be treated like a woman’s enemy.
>>151
You probably see a lot of it normally (since it’s a culture where direct expressions can be harshly criticized, there might be more indirect ways to assert superiority).
Those who were defeated in the power struggle among women are attacking men, which reflects the same structure as a male-dominated society.
Rather, the woman thinks that this husband is about all she can get, which is why she is reluctant to divorce.
Why do these comics about sexual issues make me feel uncomfortable…?
>>155
Don’t go out of your way to read things that make you feel bad…
>>156
I deliberately read it knowing I would definitely feel uncomfortable, and then I take pleasure in the fact that I became uncomfortable just as expected…
Since we don’t have kids, we can break up immediately, right?
After having kids, the evil is 100 times more bothersome.
>>158
It’s better to know before getting married, but it would really help if I could find out before having children.
>>158
I think they are having trouble because they bought an apartment with this couple’s joint loan.
Besides wanting children, men are the best condition for women, so I don’t want to break up.
This has a proper punchline and it’s interesting, right?
Ah, if I were younger, I might think that divorce is unavoidable, but being in my late 30s and having a high-risk pregnancy, it might be wrong to wish for it.
It’s no good to get married without discussing those things.
This woman definitely worked in the sex industry, right?
Aren’t you trying to cover up the parts where you might get caught with technical terms by rushing through?
Why did this woman get married?
If you want to uphold the freedom not to have children, wouldn’t it have been better to stay single?
>>169
I want to rely on the badges and lifestyle of an unmarried woman and don’t want to let go of being a punching bag.
>>169
You thought you could get away with this argument, so you intentionally kept it hidden before marriage, right?
If this makes my husband lose his drive and not even have the energy to consider divorce, then that’s a win.
If I’m going to get a divorce with a stubborn resistance, I think I can get a decent amount of money.
>>186
You think you can win just by imposing your own convenience, completely unaware of how the world works…
>>186
This is… the latest evil…
Before getting married, I did feel a little like maybe I should have a child…
Since we both looked like guys at NNOK, I ended up imagining something different.
Which is better, a lifelong single woman or a divorced woman?
>>176
I’m sure they’re divorced.
Because I have the medal of having been married as a woman.
>>176
Lifetime single
There really aren’t any people who are good at drawing with this style.
>>177
Skilled people can make a living from their creations…
>>177
The goal is to make a claim, not to be skilled at drawing like entertainment.
Maybe it’s because the necessity of being good at description is low.
Calm down, pork bowl.
>>178
I really want to eat pork bowl… Everyone has retreated from that, right…
Honestly, the story of the Kawakami family has gone on for too long, and I’m getting tired of it.
I want to see more hip-hop grandmas.
It’s amazing to say “I didn’t think I wouldn’t even be listened to” after rambling on completely one-sidedly.
Ah, it’s about N (raw) N (internal) OK (good).
I see.
If we can no longer treat each other as human beings before considering whether they are a man or a woman, then it’s all over.
There’s no insult that feels more off than “chi-gyu.”
I wonder who it’s piercing?
>>192
People who are saying that.
NN is written language, not spoken language…
If someone suddenly said NNOK in a conversation, it would make me go, “Huh?”
It looks like you are trembling in fear of violence that could erupt at any moment.
In reality, there are those who believe they are superior and can win, but they know that if they say they are afraid of violence, the other person won’t resort to physical confrontation.
>>195
Perpetrators who act like victims of domestic violence.
I don’t think you can get money for a divorce on the grounds of refusing to give birth.
So what is this manga?
Do you pronounce this as “NNO K”? Even if it’s said right in front of me, I definitely wouldn’t get it.
Continuing this married life would be hell…