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[Bakuman.] What is a masculine manga?

I just like manly manga; I don’t like otaku-style or wimpy ones.

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Men’s School

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Dragon Ball

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Toriqo

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Considering the author’s generation, it’s around Fist of the North Star.

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Haniwat

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Women are not coming out.

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>>6

It’s definitely Otokojuku…

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>>160

Actually, there was someone who turned out to be a woman!

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To LOVE-Ru

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>>7

Isn’t it like the quintessential otaku thing?!

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>>10

It’s funny that among them, it feels like they’re an exception because it’s a jump manga.

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Slam Dunk

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Hana no Keiji

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Goku Way

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Men’s slope

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Great Citizen

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The ideology is so strong that it would be banned in today’s era, right?

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Is it really like that? Do you suddenly start talking about communist ideology?

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>>19

If you’ve gone that far, it might actually be a good thing.

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>>14

I realized that I have an extreme ideology, just like the image in the thread.

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Isn’t it a gay manga?

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To deliver.

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It’s the one drawn by Tetsuo Hara.

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Dangerous Grandpa

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I wonder what the intention behind this grandiose rhetoric was.

I wonder if it’s a story about the immaturity of kids.

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Jump is a manga that has grown large with erotic and grotesque elements…

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The comic in the image is quite a wimpy comic, so doesn’t it have a bit of self-deprecation?

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It’s just a vague categorization, right?

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I’m sure the best all-time is Ashita no Joe.

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They were the kind of person who had a strong attachment to things like “It has to be this way!”

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It was tough back then to hear women being talked about like this from the first episode.

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In the end, it feels like it’s going to be super popular, like battle manga, right?

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It’s good for a woman to be serious, but it’s cuter if she doesn’t overdo it!

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Zenin Naoya Level

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I don’t remember the details, but I do recall thinking, “Wow…” at the time.

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It was kind of gross when I was asked on the radio if I was a virgin and I said I was…

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In a way, it’s extremely manly, Bakuman.

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A girl who is ranked first and is proud of it should die!

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I was too obsessed with jumping, but the content felt too vulgar and reminiscent of comics from other magazines.

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Bakuman combines the nature of Jump and the real-life BUNKA taboo.

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I remember feeling a bit unsure towards the end.

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It didn’t happen until the final stage…

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I really don’t want to if you’re not a virgin!

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I don’t like stories, but I like the subject matter.

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Looking back now, it’s kind of tough in places…

What kind of demand was there for the assistant uncle suddenly descending deeper into darkness in such a strange way?

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Counter demand for the original author.

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There are various ideas presented in the story, and it doesn’t portray the protagonists’ thoughts as the sole justice, so I wonder how it would be to interpret it based on ideology.

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The original author has an overwhelming complex regarding women with high educational backgrounds.

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Since these elements are becoming milder, you can just watch the movie!

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The male ratio is unusually high, like in Makiba O.

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Essentially, this is a manga that feels like a great citizen, right?

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Go for it, Bottle!!

You can do it, Binzi-san!

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The absence of women appearing might actually be more common in works aimed at women…

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I thought it was a depiction of naive thoughts from student days, but it stayed that way until the end…

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The fear that it wasn’t a joke.

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I was quite disappointed to realize that the thoughts of the person who wrote Death Note were like this.

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It’s not just manga from the manga industry, it’s manga based on the Jump philosophy, you know. – Bakuman

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The manga that came to mind, which is rather delicate, was one about being bullied like Reiner.

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Aren’t manga artists otaku?

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>>52

Jump manga artists are not otaku.

Other than that, manga artists are otaku.

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Well, thinking back, Death Note didn’t bother me because Light was just an ordinary villain, but the treatment of the female characters was quite harsh.

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It’s unfortunate that ever since Death Note, the original creator is only being made to draw terrible manga.

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The distortion of endlessly mocking the Kirara-style beautiful girls while only praising To Love-Ru.

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I wish I could make the person who likes yankees say it and agree without having to.

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Was it that the dog had a bad leg? I don’t remember.

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Tough: The Man Who Inherits the Dragon

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I made it a double standard because I don’t want the protagonist to badmouth existing Jump manga.

I thought it felt like that.

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Berserk is not masculine because it is subjected to rape.

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In the first place, the author is a huge nerd, so it’s no good.

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If I read the current Jump, I feel like I’ll throw up and die.

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Jumping is just jumping, so it’s manly and doesn’t count.

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To LOVE-Ru is just the ultimate in wimpiness, and it makes me laugh.

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I got an awesome office thanks to my uncle’s generosity.

Ishizawa rented an office by himself with a moe manga.

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Golgo 13

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Burn, pen… is… um…

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>>66

I think it’s extremely effeminate.

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The anime generally improves on the parts of the original work that were a bit lackluster, so it’s good.

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I can’t draw cute girls.

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You seem to like tough things.

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It’s not surprising since I don’t know the recent manga.

When I actually think about what a masculine manga is…

I can only think of old-fashioned manga.

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I think it’s a terrible era where people say you should pander with female characters if you want to be popular.

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I started drawing after reading threads, and now I’m working in illustration after copying various Jump manga.

When asked which manga artist’s manga I like, I would answer “Howling Pen” to the extent that I was like “Hmm…” especially after my first serialization was decided.

I was really excited about getting my uncle’s workplace…

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It felt like if it gets turned into an anime and sells like crazy, it ultimately has to be a battle manga.

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It’s really tough to talk about women, yet you seem to want to talk about it too much.

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Bakuman really looked down on the cute girl genre.

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I was really foolish about the cute girl genre, or rather the Kirara style.

The beautiful girl genre itself had panty flash fights in the latter half.

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It seemed like a considerate but non-deli uncle was leaking out.

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Is there something like To LOVE-Ru in Kirara?

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Fifteen years ago when I was reading it, there used to be some, but now it’s mostly laid-back yuri, I think.

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>>88

Hmm, what’s the title?

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>>97

I forgot, but the guy who created Daimidaler…

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It is often said that the author’s thoughts are reflected in their work, but I feel that the author doesn’t genuinely write about Azuki as a truly wonderful heroine, so I think there might be a relatively cool attitude towards it.

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>>82

I think I just decided on the part about the girl I admired and then it was all about the live feeling after that.

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>>82

Honestly, I think it’s only being treated as a stage set.

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>>82

It makes more sense to say the author’s sexual preferences are like Iwase’s.

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I wish they would criticize To LOVE-Ru for not being masculine instead.

I hate making them say it with that silly face unique to Bakuman, like “Those are nice, right~?”

That broken face is one of the elements I really dislike the most in Bakuman.

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If a manga artist can’t get serialized in Jump, they might as well die!

If you’re an otaku, there’s no helping it.

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It was interesting, but I couldn’t understand the part about relationships with women and was just skimming through it.

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Tough

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Tekonder

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I used to like Obata’s drawings, but they gradually distorted while I was working on Bakuman.

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A manga with a gender ratio of about 8 to 2 or 7 to 3.

It gets tough when there are more women.

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The impression was that the two main characters had a mindset that epitomized homosociality.

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I remember feeling like there was a girl assistant who I was totally in love with, but nothing really happened, and I ended up giving up, thinking “I can’t get in between these two…!”

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The rival really degraded and became worthless.

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The discomfort around the red bean is so overwhelming that I definitely never want to read it again.

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Kyarara’s ToLOVEru… in other words, the great battle of Mars robots showing their nipples! Huh…

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Cross-dressing manga

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I don’t think it makes much sense to debate whether the work within the work seems interesting or not.

Still, I wonder if sea otters are really that great…?

If I were in that world, I would probably check out the sea otter bashing thread.

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I think it’s about one original, but isn’t it like Bobobo or something?

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The current Jump is amazing, isn’t it?

The one piece stands out too much.

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The annoying manga otaku vibe is pretty strong.

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As Mr. Nakai’s trashiness becomes more severe,

I remember it was used as a joke in Inumarudashi.

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I remember the time when Egawa was recruiting assistants with a “no manga otaku allowed” note while drawing naked women.

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Whether a panty shot fight is good or not is beside the point; I just want to see a long-gone canceled author draw erotic comedy.

Because there are writers whose art I only like.

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I mean, the artwork for the panty shot fight was incredibly well done, so I thought they could have easily made a living as a character designer.

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I have a strong desire to create a story that becomes a hit on my own…

Focusing solely on drawing seems to require a lot of energy.

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At that time, it was quite compelling, but somehow it became a big hit.

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>>111

The romantic relationships can be skipped, but as an early stage successful manga artist story, it was interesting.

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>>118

Mr. Nakai’s stalker-like behavior also had the power to propel the heated developments forward.

Looking back, I feel like that was the peak.

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>>125

It’s important that they are actually referred to as a stalker in the story.

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>>111

Maybe most people are just not bothered and don’t really care.

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I feel that looking down on or being aggressive towards otaku in genres you dislike is a sign of a problematic otaku.

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The character’s thoughts are that the thread picture is fine, but in the story, the one who became a manga artist as a moe otaku is really being looked down upon.

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>>114

This is quite something.

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>>114

The main characters weren’t really making fun of it that much, though.

I felt that the author was really looking down on it.

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In terms of statements, the thread image is more like a light jab or something cute, so there are people who can just brush it off.

But really, the sheer intensity of the depictions that follow in the story is amazing. Why does it accelerate like that?

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This manga has both interesting and creepy elements coexisting, which makes it problematic.

That’s why it continues to be a topic of conversation.

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I feel like I was mocking the fact that the heroine debuted as a voice actress in a late-night anime.

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>>124

A girls’ school where lesbians appear.

Voice actors performing the ending theme with their faces shown.

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I feel like there’s a difference between around Ichigo and after To LOVE-Ru, even if I separate them arbitrarily into before and after To LOVE-Ru.

I like it, but it’s definitely more geared towards otaku than general audiences, right? To LOVE-Ru.

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>>127

I mean, if we’re talking about before and after, Strawberry 100% and To Love-Ru are in different genres, right?

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A man becomes useless if he loses his pride as a man, so I don’t think the original image is particularly wrong.

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>>128

If you don’t say that To LOVE-Ru is different, I could still understand…

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During the serialization of Bakuman, there was a time when there was high popularity among women, and the protagonist often didn’t rank first in popularity polls, with male characters dominating the top spots, so there was a pervasive mindset that “only masculine things are real.”

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I thought it was interesting enough to be on par with elementary school detective comics until it succeeded once.

The enemies that came out from there and the developments were strange.

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It’s a slightly twisted, immature opinion from a child.

It’s scary because it just goes on like that without stopping.

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“Aside from the fact that Trouble is published in Jump, both the art style and content seem to only appeal to otaku.”

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I had a serialization in a magazine like Kirara, but it got canceled, and I ended up like Nakai-san’s prototype!

I think it is bold as a Jump supremacist manga.

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It’s the worst way to say it, but it’s a story written by an old man.

Old-fashioned.

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Creators in the sense-based category were also fairly looked down upon.

To be honest, I thought you were mocking Nisio Isin.

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I thought it was completely normal for rivals to start a company, gather ideas, and create a manga.

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>>138

I think the problem is that information will definitely leak, and the focus may also waver.

It’s totally just self-destruction within the story.

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>>138

It’s not profitable, and there’s no point in publishing it in Jump, so it’s a no-go.

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>>138

That’s Takao Saito, right?

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>>138

It didn’t feel convincing to end with something that seemed villainous.

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The live-action adaptation had a lot of the creepy aspects toned down quite a bit.

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I think it was really unreasonable to have a battle manga in the magazine survey.

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>>142

I quite like the parts where the authors talk about the developments to enhance their own works.

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I think the female character was erotic!

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>>139

If there are other companies, isn’t it a pervertedly specialized Urusei Yatsura?

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The heroine’s personality and preferences were so vague that it was a problem even before deciding whether I liked or disliked the character.

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I was tough on smart women, but I wonder if it was also a complex of mine.

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It feels like it was only with Darkness that it delved into romance manga.

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On the contrary, I think that the way they managed to manipulate that line was skillful, given that it sold well even with such a harsh feeling.

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>>150

I feel like I ran through it with a savings that has a nice vibe like a success manga that I built up early on.

There was a time when even Nakai’s stalker-like behavior seemed kind of good in a way.

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>>163

In other words, I thought that I actually have quite a bit saved up in my Death Note.

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I think the result of soliciting ideas will lead to a work that is good or bad.

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They were saying some quite reasonable and critical things about Jump, like that if you can’t create a work that gradually becomes interesting above all else, it’s not good.

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In Bakuman, a strange habit of breaking down the art style was formed, and it carried over to the classroom trial manga as well, didn’t it, Obata?

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Saying things like how the girl at the top of her class just because she excels in academics might actually be dumb was pretty harsh.

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Did you end up using the right to finish one manga you dislike?

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>>161

I finished my manga.

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>>162

That was a joke that could only be made at that time.

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>>170

It was a lineup of series that felt like those extremely popular works would never end…

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>>161

Didn’t you use it to finish your own manga?

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It’s true that if it’s not a romantic comedy, it tends to make women become an unnecessary presence.

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I was wondering what Takeshi Obata is doing now, and it turns out it’s Shouhashoten.

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>>167

It looks like an official account has also been created.

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>>166

Well, I can’t completely shake off the cleverness of saying that To LOVE-ru is safe among jump serialized manga, but I can somewhat understand the feeling.

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The final episode of Platinum End seems to be highly praised in the Bakuman world.

Wow, it’s amazing that they’re ending it like this!

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With the current prestige of Jump, it would be impossible for this kind of manga to succeed.

At that time, there was still a bit of power left.

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I think readers are flowing from Jump to kirara manga featuring all-women casts because there are works that pursue dreams through sports or music, which have a sense of masculinity.

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>>176

The reason why Bozaro received this recently is because of this element.

Well, that’s actually part of the immediate aftermath from the anime.

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>>176

The second season of Bozaro is just going to have such a development.

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>>176

Is there a manga that’s selling so well that it’s flowing out of Jump?

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There are definitely manga artists who collaborate closely with their assistants to create characters and scenarios.

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>>177

What was it like around here regarding the assistant, or rather, Anarchy and Fiction’s Fujiko?

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The best direct connection desire is a good direct connection desire, while a fat person’s direct connection desire is a bad direct connection desire.

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But since it was selling, it feels strange to not suppress it, right? It seems I’ve been able to update my sense of this.

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In Death Note, they treated the female announcer like a fool who could only study.

It’s because of people like Tsuki and Nia, who continue to look down on others, that this kind of ideology has become the norm…

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>>184

You knew their personality because they were your classmate.

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The in-story work about the panty shot fight seemed the most interesting.

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You’re trying to justify it by saying you dislike it and making excuses about saving money, but it’s simply that the inside jokes from Jump are funny, and that’s why it was popular, right?

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When scenes with Nakai and others that are sensationally bad are depicted with Takeshi Obata’s artistic skill, the intensity becomes too much.

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Denying everything about Kirara during the peak of K-On might be considered manly in a way.

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It’s a mystery why Bakuman became so popular.

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>>191

It’s a lie that it’s not selling, but was it really that popular?

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The nerds themselves were self-deprecating from the start.

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I think there is something characteristic of that generation because the author of Sket Dance also tried to appeal that they are not an otaku in the published volumes.

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>>193

You can tell the special nature of Kazuki when he starts talking about ToHeart…

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Even depicting a little service scene is something I hate; it’s not just being hardcore, it’s that I might not be suited for this at all.

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I wonder if there are any moe otaku manga artists in Jump.

Seems like there are quite a few of them around.

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>>198

That person, especially Super Jou-senpai, is a huge Idolmaster fan.

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>>198

Well, young manga artists are mostly otaku, right?

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Kinnikuman is manly both in appearance and character.

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When K-On was airing on TBS, Bakuman was on NHK, but if you ask which one was the social phenomenon…

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I feel like the full-time assistant was also openly looking down on them.

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Genbun Manga

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It’s really tough dealing with her surroundings as a voice actress.

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Moe otaku and otaku are different!

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The live-action movie version of Bakuman was quite good.

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At this time, anyway, it’s all otaku now, isn’t it, Jump?

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I wish someone would actually practice drawing a manga by gathering various people online soon.

I’m dissatisfied that something like that was turned into a trivial villain, but I actually like the idea of it collapsing due to internal strife.

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If the paperback sold well, the anime was made, and it became a hit, then it would definitely be popular.

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