The red-black slaughterer inevitably enters and tramples everything down.

I saw the original, but they were using a sophisticated joke about not using Chekhov’s gun.

Chekhov Gunner…

>>4

You’re not leaving…

Occam’s Razor! Occam’s Razor!

>>86

In a TRPG escape scenario, if someone asks, “What was that key we ended up not using?” and the response is, “It had no meaning at all, right?” I would just punch the GM.

>>110

Such scenarios happen from time to time.

It would be better if it were a key used on a different route in a scenario with multiple escape routes.

It’s just a fraudulent item, isn’t it? Perish, Fire Top Mountain!

>>8

There was a gag manga about a blood-sucking monster.

A bitter ending…!

It might be worth considering that if it can work without vampires, it would be more interesting to introduce different elements.

Don’t suck blood because it’ll die soon! This is new!

>>11

The first thing that came to mind was Leonid from Romancing SaGa 3.

>>11

The gap from the typical vampire image emphasizes the character’s weakness, which gives meaning to them being a vampire!

>>11

The ability to die and resurrect immediately is something that only vampires can do, so being a vampire is definitely being utilized, right?

There is something called a MacGuffin.

I think it’s fine as long as they’re using other vampire-like elements, even if they don’t suck blood.

If it’s just the setting of a vampire with a beautiful appearance, it’s understandable to receive criticism.

If I were to create an original non-human character that is beautiful, immortal, has supernatural abilities, stays awake at night, sleeps during the day, and does not drink blood.

Isn’t it good to have this as a vampire?

>>15

Shiki

>>70

That is precisely why it is made in a serious and authentic style as a vampire story from before Universal Pictures; it is not a vampire but a shiki (living dead).

If you set up a demon king that has been defeated in the past, you can just throw out something related to the demon king and it should be fine!

>>16

There are indeed masterpieces where only the demon lord’s castle, armor, axe, shield, and four minions appear, but the demon lord himself does not appear at all.

Even if it’s not something I particularly like and it doesn’t have much meaning, as long as it’s interesting in other ways, it won’t be a problem.

Ninja Reality Shock sometimes gets mixed up, right?

There’s a romantic comedy with a blood-sucking demon!

Even the vampire in Shinobi Killing properly drank blood at the right moment, didn’t it?

A vampire that doesn’t suck blood! → What’s the reason?

>>27

What came out from analyzing why boring manga is boring is

It probably means that the character’s elements aren’t being utilized.

Even though it’s a vampire, it doesn’t suck blood, and there’s no reason for it to be that way, so it doesn’t have to be a vampire. Yes, that’s how it is.

“It’s fine for a ‘vampire that doesn’t suck blood’ not to suck blood, but it’s not acceptable for a ‘vampire’ to not suck blood.”

If you have the skill of García Márquez, you would probably be forgiven.

If a vampire doesn’t drink blood for no reason, it just makes you go “Huh?” right?

I don’t know if I was doing it without any real reason or not.

I can’t say anything without knowing what specific plan was presented.

It’s just a lewd TS eromanga where a guy does erotic things, and that TS is simply homo noise, right?

>>34

I… like TS erotic works that are an extension of BL, and I used to write fan fiction in the past.

Well, I’ve been told that it’s really creepy!

>>34

I’m not especially into TS things, but the ones I’ve come across here…

Indeed, it was like a hook for an unattractive man to engage in erotic things with a beautiful girl.

Some famous ones have reasons like they don’t smoke because they like it, and a certain person from a certain fish strong also had a similar reason.

>>35

Well, Arcueid has been smoking in the past and is currently at the point just before smoking.

Even Seraph didn’t suck until the end, but her character was still well-established.

>>36

There was a proper reasoning for not wanting to suck blood, or rather, for not sucking blood.

If you like the visuals of vampires, then a vampire cosplay guy is perfectly fine.

>>39

If anything, being a demon realm noble is fine too.

Will the genre change? I see…

Is there a scenario where you can win against a surprise ninja?

>>41

It appears early on, but originally it is “suddenly appearing and killing all the characters.”

I think it would be normal to boo if a romantic comedy that you were enjoying suddenly had everyone die at the end from being hit by a truck! There’s really no meaning to it!

>>57

If it’s Gataro, it’s safe.

>>61

That’s already a letdown since the author is Gataro.

>>57

In other words, the surprise ninja was about Gataro’s truck!!

>>41

What I’m doing is similar to Pako-chan in her pajamas, so if it were done commercially, it would normally cause confusion.

Vampires are not only about sucking blood; they are a bundle of attributes. If those are not utilized, is there even a point in being a vampire?

If you put it out, then it means what you put out.

It’s fine to feature humans in the work, but meal scenes are unnecessary.

Isn’t it okay to turn off the blood-sucking scene of a vampire and pick up other aspects instead?

If it’s a supporting character, that’s one thing, but if it’s a main character, there should be no reason for them not to suck blood…

If all you want is a slender, blonde, red-eyed loli old lady, it doesn’t necessarily have to be a vampire, right?

I remembered a vampire that doesn’t drink blood and only eats sardines.

>>51

I think that actually makes the character stand out in a different way.

>>51

The reason that person does not suck blood ties into the scenario, and it underpins their character, while also serving as a justification for starting at level 1 in a game where they don’t suck blood, making it a meaningful pattern.

>>69

It’s interesting that the close aide keeps trying to forcefully make him drink blood every chance they get.

If you say a vampire that doesn’t suck blood

For example, in episode 3 of “Majipoka,” the vampire Pakira falls in love at first sight with the blood donation guy.

There was a situation where I was pushing myself to go donate blood every day to meet my brother, but instead, I ended up having my blood drawn so much that I became dizzy.

If you don’t twist it that well, it won’t be interesting, right?

By the way, as a result of being drained of blood a lot, the pakira’s thirst for blood has increased significantly, and it almost attacked its friends.

In the end, it lands on a really nice gag, so Majipoka is well done.

>>52

I… am being brainwashed…

A story about a vampire who wants to lose weight and struggles with calculating the calories in blood, which makes good use of the vampire elements, even though it’s just casual talk.

>>53

I remember seeing a fat vampire in an overseas novel who struggles with knee joint pain due to constantly sucking the blood of high-fat, overweight people.

Shall we make a vampire play shogi…?

In extreme cases, the reason for not sucking blood is simply because I dislike the taste; anything like that is fine.

You can use that as a hook to make it serious or comedic.

>>58

If this is serious, you really need to suck blood or you’ll die! Is this really the time to be picky? → A vampire with a tragic past… but that’s an excuse, I guess.

There was an erotic game with a vampire that doesn’t suck blood, where they survive by sucking on used sanitary napkins…

The heroine will start to cooperate with a feeling of “I can’t help it.”

>>60

Isn’t it rather a correct scenario since it’s making good use of the setting for the gags?

Well, even without sucking blood, there are various other ways to go about it, so there wasn’t really a reason to be a vampire to the extent that it would make one say such things.

Even though I’m a vampire, I don’t suck blood, and it only connects to the idea that I don’t do it because I like it, which carries a high risk of being called a copycat, so it’s no good.

But in reality, let AI write a sweet romantic love story about a boy meets girl.

It’s so much fun to summon ninjas with my hand in the next scene and then make them kill everyone before correcting their course.

There are vampires who haven’t eaten since their last delicious blood meal and are constantly on the brink of death.

It’s saying in the thread that it’s a gun introduced but not used.

It’s a situation where you can shoot, but it would be the end if you do, or it’s like trying to bluff when there’s really no bullet in the chamber.

If there is no meaning in existence, it just becomes noise.

Who would tell the story of a vampire who can’t drink blood because it tastes bad after eating such curry?

>>77

There’s no such dead apostle.

A situation where a mountain of Chekhov’s guns are lined up but none are fired, ending smoothly without incident.

At one point, Minoru Furuya was drawing a lot of that kind of stuff, but it was just boring.

There are works that can be suppressed by anything with ninja and karate, so persuasiveness is important.

“It’s too delicious, so I stopped drinking blood” was done in Bakemonogatari.

Yeah, I drank it…

You can just imagine a ninja killing everyone in your favorite scene of your favorite work.

Even if you’re a vampire and want to suck blood, some say you should become a big YouTuber.

If it’s not acceptable to introduce a character and then not use them, then it’s not acceptable for a jump manga to position a character with foresight and have them end without being used.

Don’t bring up such trivial matters.

>>87

What’s with bringing up a typical example that gets criticized for not resolving this foreshadowing?

If you’re a vampire but you don’t suck blood, then you could just be a demon or a creature of some sort, and that’s perfectly fine.

>>88

It’s often overlooked because it’s a hindrance to the story, but the part about not being able to walk during the day and the flowing water is typically referenced or used as justification for weakening.

It’s being said that the setting of vampires is not being fully utilized, so it’s not just a matter of not drinking blood.

There are countless quirky stories involving vampires that keep coming up in this thread.

In such a modern Japanese subculture environment, hearing something like this makes me seriously think about how meaningless the setting really was.

Well then, how about a story where the vampire protagonist, who doesn’t suck blood, goes all out to save a heroine who is drowning in a river, successfully rescues her but ends up taking a lot of damage and being sent to the hospital together with her…

>>91

That’s just a typical hero-like protagonist.

In the Edo period, the popularity of Yoshitsune was so immense that it had no significance in the scenario.

“Although there is no particular purpose, Yoshitsune has just shown his face and then withdrawn, so you can do as you please.”

>>93

There are also storytellers who read the Taihei-ki.

I remembered a story about how when Masanari Kusunoki appears, customers gather, so it seems they increased his appearances anyway.

We should seriously consider the fact that if the vampire setting had been utilized properly, it wouldn’t have been scrapped.

I actually like the ones that only appear by name in the early stages.

I was wondering if there are any vampires who can’t suck blood from their mouths for some reason, so they have to get a transfusion every day.

Basically, vampires are beings from another world that happened to connect with the world where humans exist.

There was a work that was treated like a drug, thoroughly avoiding drinking blood because it was so delicious that it would drive me crazy if I did.

In fact, just being a vampire already has so many elements, so it feels more unusual to emphasize the blood-sucking aspect.

Rather, how much could I not make use of it…

If they die when exposed to sunlight or can’t handle garlic, it makes sense for them to be a vampire.

I’m seriously curious about how meaningless the vampire setting really is.

It’s a story that doesn’t need to be discussed any further regarding the external attribution in the white bald manga.

It has come this far…

The theory of surprise ninjas can only be said because it is far from ninjas overseas.

I think it’s too difficult to overcome the hurdle of being a ninja in a Japan where ninjas are so familiar.

I’m a vampire (I’m fine with the sun, running water, garlic, I don’t need blood, I don’t have night vision, and my physical strength is weak).

I feel like I can’t make the vampire element irrelevant unless I go this far.

>>103

Isn’t it enough to not portray vampires like that at all?

I like to stick surprise ninjas.

Why can’t it be an albino person who is weak to sunlight instead of a vampire?

The reason for introducing a vampire that doesn’t suck blood without any particular reason…

Did you want a character that could fly or transform into a bat?

>>109

Isn’t the point that it saves the trouble of explaining the “character design” quite significant?

It might be good if there’s a desire to suck blood, but various circumstances come into play, and in the end, they don’t suck blood.

I don’t think a story that just uses the vampire label without any vampire elements would be accepted.

Despite being vampires, they are not at all handsome or beautiful, and they nonchalantly spread their feces everywhere, so it’s not beautiful at all, damn it!

Don’t do it, don’t do it, it’s not a setup for Chekhov’s gun.

It’s understandable that if you put in too many foreshadowing elements, you won’t be able to tie them all up.

At least retrieve the foreshadowing of the gun that was conspicuously displayed to catch the audience’s eye.

>>115

I want you to use something, even if it’s just a misleading factor.

>>115

My favorite child…

It seems that they collected a certain amount as a bonus for the paperback version.

The nutritional calorie chart of blood from the original manga is usable!

If I had depicted weaknesses or traits other than not sucking blood, I wouldn’t be getting comments like this.

I guess there was really no need to make it a vampire…

>>117

“If there were even one reason for ‘being a vampire but not drinking or unable to drink blood,’ I don’t think it would have been said this far.”

I seriously think they didn’t consider anything other than the vampire setting.

I wonder if someone would make a movie about a surprise ninja.

The screenwriter is the protagonist and multiple movie concepts are being developed.

Every story seems interesting at first, but then it quickly falls apart, with a surprise ninja appearing and killing all the characters, which is a comedy movie.

I think if you can portray a protagonist who is loved even with a dead setting, you’ll gain a certain level of support, but I also think it’s understandable to be completely cut down at the conceptual stage if the setting is already dead.

Rather, a vampire that doesn’t suck blood is a delicious material that can be fleshed out in countless ways.

If you’re just putting it out there because it’s cool, that’s a waste…

Well… there are manga where the original author and the illustrator had a fight and as a result, the characters who appeared on the color page of the first episode were unable to appear by the time the first part was completed.

>>123

What is that…?

That’s why it’s no surprise they say that about white bald people.

You should die!

I think it’s fine if a supporting character doesn’t suck blood, but it looks like they might be the main character… right?

On the contrary, when it reaches the level of Sharknado, it’s not interesting even if ninjas kill sharks and humans halfway through.

I think it’s fine to have a gun that only makes an appearance.

If you asked whether a work that mixes in such noise is interestingly portrayed, the answer would be yes.

Unbelievable.

Isn’t it an easily convincing setting that vampires are immortal?

If you want to draw physical destruction, even more so.

>>130

They aren’t even incorporating the setting of vampires, so that’s probably why there’s nothing like that.

>>130

If you don’t have a vampire-like appearance or weaknesses, isn’t it just fine to be simply immortal?

GM isn’t omnipotent, so they can’t retrieve all the elements they introduced!

It’s unavoidable since I sometimes forget the developments along the way!!!

You change the development based on the atmosphere, so forget it!

How about a pattern where the fact that the protagonist is a vampire is kept hidden from the readers, while occasionally including vampire-like descriptions, leading readers to think, “Isn’t this guy a vampire? But he’s not sucking blood and is active in the sunlight,” and then revealing the truth later?

>>134

What do you want to achieve by deceiving the readers?

If the content actually sucks, then it’s no good.

>>142

There are authors who want to delve into this deeply…

>>134

Is it Hell Brother?

>>145

Then… what do you mean?

I want to make it immortal, so there’s no need to be a vampire; I can just set it up as an immortal monster.

Current readers will likely accept it as such.

If the story is interesting.

The use of the term “MacGuffin” in this context feels a bit hazy to me.

>>138

Even Dragon Ball, which started as a story about collecting seven balls that grant wishes, has somehow transformed into a superhuman battle manga, and the role of the balls has changed to cleanup items for resurrecting dead people or restoring destroyed cities. It was still interesting, so I guess it all depends on the development.

I don’t really understand why Arcueid needs to be a vampire, but “I don’t feed because I like you” is the best, so I’ll allow it.

>>140

It’s important that there is significance in choosing not to suck blood, even though it only weakens you if you don’t, so there is a necessity to be a vampire.

It’s said that it’s fine to have a gun that is introduced hintingly but never used, but that would definitely be boring.

To be honest, just the immortal setting makes use of the vampire elements, so in a way, it does utilize them.

The scale of the story means that the mysteries inaccessible to the protagonist remain unsolved, yet Kamen Rider 555 is incredibly popular…

>>144

Isn’t that just placing more importance on the drama woven by the characters rather than the mystery?

On the contrary, what level is it that you can’t make use of the vampire setting?

Just not being able to go outside during the day is enough to keep living, right?

>>146

I think it’s the type that has overcome sunlight as a daywalker and can live off regular food without needing to suck blood.

Amateur creations sometimes feature boring vampires.

Well, I think it’s not good to have too many settings that make you go, “What was that about?”

For example, a gun came out of the closet in the protagonist’s home, who grew up in an ordinary Japanese household!

If that happens and there’s no particular reason for it, and it doesn’t contribute to the storytelling, it will just become noise.

It might be a bit different from Chekhov’s gun.

The disappointment of the Laplace Box in Gundam UC being tossed around so much yet ultimately changing nothing was quite strong.

In Cyberpunk 2077, there is a scene where a gang member brazenly slams a gun down on the table while talking to the protagonist in a bar.

In the end, it doesn’t fire, but it serves its purpose as a threatening tool in the story, so having it appear and then serve no purpose at all afterwards is clearly not good.

It’s fine to say that I couldn’t collect it or that I couldn’t write it due to the flow of the conversation.

Don’t do it at the planning stage.

The vampires that appear in Ninja Kill also recover their karate by sucking blood, so if you’ve created a character with a certain archetypical attribute, it’s better to adhere to that template properly…

If you are going to make Akechi Mitsuhide a ninja, it’s better to give Oda Nobunaga strong emotions, and if you are going to make Oda Nobunaga a ninja, it would be better to have a character with innovative and groundbreaking traits, and turn the castle into a giant robot.

Even hit works sometimes have a rough start, but everyone is kind and tends to forget about it.

Even popular works have plenty of unresolved plot threads, don’t they?

>>156

Popular works are forgiven because they have the charm of sweeping them away into oblivion.

>>156

There is a world of difference between having the intention to utilize something but not having it used, and having no intention to utilize it at all.

>>156

That’s a problem stemming from the drawbacks of a long-running series or because the initial settings were not solidified.

It turns out that the Armadillo familiar also had an original source for the idea of absorbing death.

To be honest, as long as the characters, setting, and main story are good, people will overlook if the scenario is a bit sloppy or too convenient.

If they were using blood sucking, immortality, or having plenty of weaknesses, it seems like no one would question their being a vampire.

The structure of storytelling is too different between a play with a predetermined ending from the beginning and a serialized manga or drama.

The nuance between not having been collected and having no intention to collect is somewhat different.

There are popular works even with D-rank characters.

It’s a bit extreme to say that if Doraemon is here, he shouldn’t disappoint us by not using even a single secret gadget.

If you can’t collect it, it’s not the same as being unprepared…

There are plenty of reincarnation stories where the characters adapt quickly and don’t particularly use modern knowledge.

I’m really curious about how meaningless the vampire setting is, so I wonder if you could show me the contents.

In this thread, I can only understand that the surprise ninja theory is crap when thought about calmly.

>>178

The surprise ninja is just a bit too funny…

>>173

The problem is that the ninja’s attributes are so strong that it ends up sounding interesting in a way.

I mean, if you’re not going to suck blood, it doesn’t matter if you’re a super regenerative being, a zombie, or a superhuman.

If the part about needing to be a vampire is weak, then it won’t work.

A surprise ninja who appears and doesn’t do anything.

I thought that considering it that way, it might actually work as a surreal gag.

Well, using the example of Dragon Ball, if a ninja suddenly starts killing Goku and the enemy characters, that would be terrible.

I believe that “Ban-O,” the vampire shogi manga from Jump+, uses the vampire setting as an important plot point while presenting it in a completely different way than traditional fictional vampires.

I think the MacGuffin is a representative example of a creative theory that can be ignored.

I can’t be bothered to care about the significance of that item’s existence… Everything is replaceable…

In a way, a weekly serialization continues as a death march until it concludes, so some level of slack is unavoidable.

Nobita, who was bullied by Gian, cried to Doraemon.

Doraemon took out a secret gadget, but…

After Nobita felt relieved just by crying out, he knocked down Gian with a bare-knuckle fight.

The secret tool will make a huge noise, won’t it?

If we let a sudden ninja use a gun, it would be the best.

Whether it’s a vampire, a werewolf, or Frankenstein’s monster, they’re pretty much the same.

What is being said is that “the setting of vampires is not being utilized,” so it’s not just that they don’t suck blood, but also that they are not immortal or have lived for long periods, nor are they weak against sunlight.

>>188

W-What a boring character…

If we take Chekhov’s gun as an example, it’s not just that it doesn’t draw blood; there are vampires appearing without any role at all.

That’s what I was talking about, so if that’s the case, then don’t bring it up.

As long as it serves its role as a gun in the story without being fired, there is no problem.

Wouldn’t it be interesting to turn everything into a surprise ninja instead?

Bob was suspicious.

I think it’s better to use muscular mice until the end, so it’s important to make choices and decisions…

If a development where Paco suddenly appears, stabs the protagonist, and rapes the heroine is more interesting, then that story should be abandoned.