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[Pokémon] We, the 600 tribe!

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1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:51Yeahx16

Deception except for the person in the bottom right!

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:53

Satoshi’s Greninja also exceeds 600.

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:55

>>2That frame is synonymous with a phantom.
I will also be putting the unleashed Hoopa next to it.

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:54

When I looked up Archeos, it was nothing at all.

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:54

The two on the left can be strong if you put in the effort, but I feel like I’ve never seen a Woshis.

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:57Yeahx1

>>4Yowashi isn’t worth the drawbacks, after all…

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:59

>>4The lack of HP and slow speed make it more fragile than I imagined.

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:55

Let’s go with the lower right Gardevoir or something.

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:24

>>5Wasn’t the actual base stats reduced from 720 to 680?

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:56

If Kecleon only had 600, would its ability be able to avoid being lazy?

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:56

What’s up with the ones who aren’t dealing with the disadvantages in the bottom right?

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:58

>>8Is it a pure 600 species?
It might be a bit off from the image since it doesn’t evolve twice.

120: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:01

>>10It looks like the evolution before Duraludon will appear.

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)20:58

You look like a dummy.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:00

Kecleon has ways to avoid disadvantages, and if a dolphin exceeds certain conditions, it remains as is, but Yoshihachi cannot be helped at all…

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:01Yeahx17

It’s sad for Archeops to have disadvantages at around 550.

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:03Yeahx1

>>14At that time, I don’t feel sorry because Jewel Bat was really irritating.

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:08Yeahx4

>>20I don’t understand the reason why there should be a disadvantage to not doing it at that time.

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:01

Dolphin Man is nice, right?

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:07Yeahx1

>>15It’s okay, but having to step back once really hits hard…

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:02Yeahx2

It’s tough for Yohashi because it has a bad design where it becomes worse when its HP decreases, and it also moves slowly.

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:02

I used Kecleon on my trip, but while I could buy Hyper Beam at the department store, its lineup other than Normal-type moves was weak.
I used Dolphin Man too, but since I have to pull him back every battle and bring him out again, I didn’t use him in battles other than trainer battles.

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:04

>>18In this day and age, there are various things, you know.

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:02Yeahx6

The bottom right is a typical 600 species, so there is no reason to have any disadvantages.

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:04

Yowashi is great for taking the reflection from its Daruma Mode into account.
But weak.

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:05

I thought the total for Yohashi would be higher at 620.
I thought it was around 650, just like a man.

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:05

It’s quite exceptional to be a 600 base stat Pokémon even though it’s just a regular Pokémon and not part of a second evolution.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:07

The drawback is that no matter how you manage the characteristics, you end up fighting in a plain state without typical traits.

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:08

>>26I thought it might be okay with Yoga Power Skis, but a form change is not allowed.

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:08Yeahx3

As characteristics become inflated, older disadvantageous characteristics become relatively weaker.

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:09

Kecleon is scary because it took down a Multiscale Dragonite with a single Terastallized Giga Impact when I underestimated it.

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:09

Yowashi could have fought a little better if it were a bit slower…

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:09

Now it seems like the Arceus restraint is unnecessary, but back then it was quite a bargain…

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:10

Isn’t Kecleon around the area with heightened pride and anxiety?

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:10

>>33It seems like you wouldn’t be easily shaken, and perhaps having a strong spirit would suit you better…

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:10

If you add Satogeko, it seems like they’ll also want to add Mega Evolution.

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:11

Mega can’t be used right now.

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:12

>>36It sounds like you’re saying that Sato-geko is still usable, doesn’t it?

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:11

The upper left can be easily conquered with just story progression.
In a double battle, if you inhale that gas, you can become an ace attacker, even though Regigigas is somewhat weakened due to the limitations of its learned moves.

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:11

No matter how strong Archeops was back then, isn’t it pitiful now?

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:14Yeahx1

>>39Since Dakuhou can no longer be used, it feels like Poor Doble now?

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:16

>>44Rather, it’s Darkrai that is unfortunate because it is still so strong that it can’t be countered completely even now.

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:16

>>44What’s unfortunate about Darkrai is that it was just caught in the crossfire… If it’s going to be made into a specialized move, then it should be fine to remove its nerf.

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:12

Isn’t the bottom right a proper 600 species?

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:13

Rather, Mega is coming back, but SatoGeko has been completely deleted.

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:14

If it’s not a group of 600, then why are you in the upper right?

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:17

If the dark hole works properly, it’s a troublesome technique because it’s just garbage.

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:18Yeahx4

I finally think I’ve reached a practical level for conditionally high base stat Pokémon with Dolphin Man.

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:18

Yowashi has a narrow range of techniques.

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:27

>>50It’s fish, after all…
If Pokémon aren’t bipedal, their move range will be limited.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:20

The weakest probably suffers the most from being held back by the specs before becoming a school.

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:22

Why is the eel lined up like this?

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:22Yeahx1

Yowashi is, at least, somewhat admirable when it comes to the timing of its release.

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:23

>>53Are you listening, Daruma Mode?

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:26

No way… the identity of Dolphin Man was Dolphin Man himself…!

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:31Yeahx1

I think the total base stat of 567 for Archeops is just shy of being a semi-legendary, so they must have been quite cautious in its design.
As a result, it feels like it would have been better to hand over a characteristic that has neither advantages nor disadvantages, acting as neither poison nor medicine.

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:39Yeahx1

>>58But if there were no disadvantage characteristics at that time, it would have really gone wild.

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:41

>>67At that time, being a one-hit wonder who launches matching jewel bats from the 110 family, which was one of the high-speed types, is a unique skill in itself.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:33

While it’s true for the top left and Archeos, they tend to end up in a sad state due to inflation, so I feel like it might be time to ease their traits a bit.

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:34

I sometimes wonder if an item will come out that nullifies abilities when held.

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:42

>>60Even if we eliminate these guys’ disadvantages, they still take up inventory space and remain weak, and they might be used for the purpose of passing them to opponents with strong abilities through Trick.

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:59

>>60In Pokémon Dungeon, there is an item called the Colorless Scarf.

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:35

There are only four of the 600 semi-legendary Pokémon.

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:35Yeahx1

There’s no way the image of the fish school isn’t raising the H level.
Not up.

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:37

>>62Because if you change your form from a school of fish to a single form and your H goes down, isn’t that death? Thinking about it in reverse with Zygarde and Terrapagos.

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:37

Even Kekkis is C95, huh?

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:37

Keos is wasting C moves, and when feeling weak, something like A↓C↑S↑ might be fine, right?
Right now, what’s tough about Chaos is not just the lack of Jewel Bats, but also that it’s easy to get taken by surprise.

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:38

Maybe under this category, Archeops is also included, and among the so-called conditional high base stats, I think it’s one of the better ones condition-wise compared to Wishiwashi.

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:39

I don’t want to be greedy, but I would like the original Yowashi’s HP to be around 100.

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:40

I hope that the weakness debuff is allowed to be reduced by doubling.

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:42

In the context of the 600 family, the bottom right would be included.
It seems that the official side is referring to the conventional 600 species as “late-blooming types” when they release merchandise.
In that classification, Brijulas, which can evolve from level 1 using a combination of metal, is excluded.
I don’t think there are many players who are conscious of that, so I think it’s fine to simply use the 600 base stats.

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:43

>>71I heard it for the first time.
Well, the 600 species is based on base stats, so it can’t be used.

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:43

The Gardevoir Jewel Bat was so strong that even a Whimsicott could achieve super high power…

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:43

Unlike Regigigas, which has a decent durability and properly behaves like a monster,
To be honest, Archeops doesn’t seem that strong even if you place it next to a scientific transformation gas…

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:43

It’s late now, but the 5th generation S110 is really fast.
If there had been no disadvantages to chaos, it would have been a big problem since most of those who were in the environment couldn’t receive flight.

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:43

Guzma is well…
Really, why…

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:44

>>76Isn’t it not a disadvantage characteristic?

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:44

I feel like a shifting Kecleon with effectively no item slots and no ability is somewhat balanced.

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:46

I can understand the others, but…
Is the fusion of Metagross a late bloomer in terms of evolution method…? That’s the question I have.

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:46Yeahx3

As they evolve, 99% of evolving Pokémon become stronger, right!

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:46

It’s like Brijurasu is a 600-type Pokémon but doesn’t understand the situation at all.

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:47

>>85At the point of tool evolution, it’s quite absurd that you can’t read the room!

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:47

The early bonus Beldum from ORAS was strong.

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:47Yeahx1

Recently, since the level at which you clear the story is high, it’s nice that the 600-type Pokémon can be easily included in your journey.

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:48

>>88It feels like the high levels at the time of clearing are due to the availability of candies, so it’s become a “feel free to level up as you like” situation since Sword and Shield, making it easier to incorporate them into the party.

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:47

I think the 600族 refers to what is commonly known as the Dragonite tier, so I didn’t consider it to mean a base stat total of 600.

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:47

>>89I’ve always heard people saying things like “What’s the deal with Mew?”

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:50

I was able to capture a decent amount of 600 Pokémon in SV, so you could say I like using them.
Woohoo! I used Gab for the first time on my trip, but it wasn’t that strong…

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:51

>>92I realize that there aren’t as many skills to learn for leveling up as I thought, so I’m relying on TMs.

124: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:02

>>92Even earthquakes, which are often referred to as a synonym for Gab, are not self-taught.

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:50

There are three 600-level Pokémon in Hoenn, that’s awesome!

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:50

It’s sad that Keos-kun was treated as an unknown back then, so the base stats felt like they were held back.

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:52

>>94I think that Pokémon like Kecleon and Regigigas were created as a result of trying to lower their base stats in exchange for minimizing disadvantages compared to their predecessors.

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:51

Mr. Kekkings was so strong that he could use his headband to unleash a hyper beam on the last Pokémon without any rules.
One hit with a half-health Ptera.

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:52

Late bloomers may not be very strong when used in battles due to the timing of when they are obtained and their slower evolution level.
Since it’s obtained later, it’s also hard to get effort values.

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:52

Including over 600 or semi-legends in the 600 species might divert the conversation by about 30 responses, so it’s recommended.

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:53

>>99I thought the rough semi-transmission was 600, but it turns out there are some at 580 or 570, so it seems that exactly 600 is quite rare.

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:55

>>99There are quietly a few species with a base stat total of 600 among the semi-legendary Pokémon… For some reason, only cresselia had a base stat total of 600 but was lowered to 580 in SV.

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:54

If only Wishiwashi could change its form to the Zygarde type, it would be completely different.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:55

>>101Are you going to gather the YoWashi from various places…?

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:57

>>101I understand, the HP is just double.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:55

The basic value for semi-legendary Pokémon is 580, and from the seventh generation, it is 570.

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:56

I want them to strengthen the high base stat species with drawbacks, keeping the drawbacks as they are, but making them really strong until the drawbacks activate, since those drawbacks have become part of their identity.

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:56

Gab is relatively suited for traveling as it has a faster evolution level compared to other Pokémon in the 600 base stat total category and has stat distributions similar to its final evolution even at the intermediate stage.

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:57

Wasn’t Gab’s skill weak?
Well, I can pick up TMs to some extent now.

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:57

The traveler’s gab might turn into a leveling of the ground due to the impact on the ground.

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:59

>>109There was a place where you could receive the Earthquake TM as a reward for defeating a certain number of trainers (was it before the desert or something?).
If you understand it, you can definitely cheat quite a bit.

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:58

Paldea has a base stat total of 570, which boosts its effective stats, so there aren’t many Pokémon with a total of 600.

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:58

In SV, being weak to Garchomp is just because you haven’t obtained the TM, even without the Skelestory.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:59Yeahx1

The worst thing about Yowashi is that, unlike Swimmy, it lacks popularity.
Don’t be a fool and give up on cooperation the moment you find yourself in a pinch.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:59

Aren’t there only Pokémon with a base stat total of 600 in the third and fourth generations?

121: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:01Yeahx1

>>115The old man of the land…

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)21:59Yeahx2

To be honest, Kecleon isn’t strong enough to break balance even without a disadvantageous ability anymore.

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:00

>>116As expected, having a wide range of moves unique to Normal type will make it significantly stronger, even in something like “Mondo Hiroi.”
It’s not completely broken.

123: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:02

>>116Is that so?

117: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:00

Using Garchomp in the Diamond and Pearl story usually means that you’ll have finished the gym challenges before its final evolution, or even, in some cases, you might have completed the League challenges.
Evolution level is important.

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:01

If there are no drawbacks, it’s strong enough to be considered even in leagues like Reg F.
In regulated battles, I can dominate like a Dragonite or a Bear.

122: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:01

Transforming types often have distorted or excessive stat distributions, leading to the transformed state not being very strong in many cases.

125: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/12(Thu)22:02

It’s hiding out of laziness, but Kecleon’s transformation technique is incredible!

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