
Mysterious
I wonder if there are any types without other Four Heavenly Kings in the current 8th or 9th generation.
Grass, perhaps?
There are no Normal, Grass, or Fairy types either.
>>2If you include the blue type, there is Taro-chan in the fairy.
Kanto: Ice/Fighting/Ghost/Dragon
Johto Psychic/Poison/Fighting/Dark
Hoenn Dark/Ghost/Ice/Dragon
Sinnoh Bug/Ground/Fire/Psychic
Isshu Ghost/Fighting/Psychic/Dark
Kalos Fire/Water/Steel/Dragon
Alola Fighting (Steel) / Rock / Ghost / Flying
Paldea Ground/Steel/Flying/Dragon
Blueberry Fire/Steel/Fairy/Dragon
There are no other grasses or anything like that, huh?
There are a lot of dragons…
>>5As a single-player RPG, it’s easy to understand that it’s a counter to the “Big Three.”
Normal: Absent Flame: Oba, Pachira, Akamatsu
Water: Zumi Electricity: Absent
Grass: Absent Ice: Kanna, Prim
Fighting: Shiba, Renbu, Hara Poison: Kyou
Ground: Kikuno, Chiri Flight: Kahili, Aoki
Esper: Itsuki, Goyou, Catlea Insect: Ryou
Rock: Lychee Ghost: Kikuko, Fuyou, Shikimi, Acerola
Dragon: Wataru, Genji, Dracaena, Hassaku, Iris Evil: Karin, Kaguetsu, Giima
Steel: Gunpy, Mareine, Poppy, Nerine Fairy: Taro
>>7There are many common points, like starting with Namazun or Nuoh.
It seems like the grass type Pokémon are mostly being focused on in the early part of the gym, so the people at the grass gym are probably having a hard time.
It’s a discrimination of the three main families within the Four Heavenly Kings of Grass, regardless of the others.
Even though there are champions in water.
>>9It has many weaknesses, so it would normally be considered a weak type in terms of a single-player RPG…
It’s also like this for insects, but Ryo solves it by making a non-insect type the ace.
Electricity has been scarce since the first generation.
>>10That excuse is powerless in front of the over.
But aside from the champ, is there only Zumi in the water?
Looking at this, Ryō from the Four Heavenly Kings of Insects is quite rare.
>>13Bug-type Pokémon tend to have lower base stats because many of them appear early in the game.
Well, as for Ryo, his hand is just way too weak.
There are also many fights with ghosts!
>>14It seems to be a type that normals are not good at structurally.
In terms of gameplay, the Blueberry Four Heavenly Kings have the rank of four heavenly kings, but in terms of the setting, they’re rated within a specialized academy in Isshu, so their status seems to be quite low.
Well, in reality, when we fight, the double tendency makes it incredibly strong.
Every time I see that Kikuko is a ghost type instead of a poison type, it feels like such a hypocrisy!
>>18The first generation of the Four Heavenly Kings are essentially practitioners of two types, so all of them…
What are the strengths of Grass type?
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Ground and electric half-reduction
Because there are many advantageous points in battles, Grass Terrains are quite commonly used.
In a story, your weaknesses are exposed, so you’re weak!
I think the Four Heavenly Kings should have more screen time, even though they have increased recently.
There are too many people who meet and fight for the first time in the league and that’s it.
In today’s world, it would almost never happen, but there might be situations where the Elite Four of the normal type appears and there are no fighting types!
The original Four Heavenly Kings have a sense of being experts in two types, possibly due to the lack of variety in the lineup.
“Mizukoori”
Rock-paper-scissors
Ghost poison
Dragon Flight
I think grass is surprisingly troublesome as an enemy because it complements the three prestigious families and is strong against electric and ground types.
>>26Well, I don’t know… Wild grass Pokémon that appear as weaklings tend to hit someone in the party, so aren’t we just using them to earn experience points?
I don’t really understand what kind of character Itsukiryo is…
There are hardly any grass gyms in the late game, right?
Erika Fukuji is quite slow.
Mega Yanma and the bug (deception) Drapion have quite a Four Heavenly Kings feel.
The Agahantu Dokukeiru from the Diamond and Pearl version is… well
Grass types have been said to be weak too often, so they have become quite powerful as a type.
Insect, even if it’s constantly said to be weak, it’s still an insect, yeah.
You don’t have to have a Swallowtail Butterfly and a Poisonous Caterpillar in your party…!?
>>34Is there really a reason to include both when it’s not even the first appearance of the fourth generation?
Well, it would be troublesome if they just replaced it with something like Korotok.
>>40No, use Minomadam.
You can hunt grass with either the early bird or the early insect…
If there were a Normal Elite Four, I think Fighting types wouldn’t stand a chance due to Hisuian Zoroark in the No. 2 slot anyway.
>>36I used to do a story normal lock, but I guess it was tougher than iron rock, so I absolutely won’t cut the fighting consistency.
Is there only one member of the Elite Four despite the strength of the water type?
Is it because fish dishes tend to gather and look cheap?
>>37Since there is a champion after all, it’s probably not Game Freak’s mood, right?
The Alola Elite Four is extremely strong because they have well-maintained individual values and moves.
At that time, they were strong enough to enter the dreadnoughts in the Four Heavenly Kings on Twitter.
That combination is a bit of a variation among the Four Heavenly Kings in Gakuiseirei.
In terms of Ultra, it surpasses steel in quality.
I hate rambutan.
Strictly speaking, it’s a sturdy Dageki.
>>41Sturdy Edge → Bringing recovery potions on the first encounter is far too much of a trap for first-timers.
At the time of the Sinnoh Pokédex, Ryo’s options are too limited…
Aside from Aggron, Scizor, Heracross, and Beedrill, there are also Korotokku, Minomadamu, and Garmeil.
>>43Isn’t the Garbage Madam actually one of the top contenders among them?
>>47Among them…
DaiPariyou is too weak in the lineup, so even in the remake, it’s not a strong opponent during the first encounter.
Mr. Daigo, having a unified hobby is good, but both before and after the enhancement, it is too weak against water.
>>45Back then, there was no water storage in Yureidoru yet…
>>52After strengthening ORAS, all four Pokémon between the designated Corviknight and the trump card Metagross have a weakness to Water.
>>52Yobimizu…
It’s pretty sad to not include Drapion and instead have something like Minomadam or Garmeil, and the last one being Heracross Ryō…
If you haven’t played the original and Let’s Go, Pikachu! and Let’s Go, Eevee!, please give them a try.
The first generation homage is explicit, and Shiba, who goes out of his way to say “sitting in zazen and using a subwoofer!” is interesting.
It’s a well-known fact that there are only two Fire-type Pokémon in the Sinnoh Pokédex.
In other words, if we use insect steel at that time…?
>>53Did you have that kind of reason… ?
The final enhancement Ryo’s hand is
Mega Yanma, Scizor, Vespiquen
Heracross, Flygon, Drapion
>>54It’s okay because Scorpi is an insect, but Frigon is definitely crossing the line.
>>59Egg Group Bug / It’s safe because it’s a Dragon.
>>59It’s not about classification, it’s about flavor, and that’s what unifies that world.
Even Wataru is like that, and Marnie from Sword and Shield has mixed elements other than just evil.
Flygon is a dragon in the spirit legend of the lychee moth and its egg group is also bug.
>>59Well, the original source is the mothfly, so it’s not too bad as a complementary match-up…
It seems that Kikuko and Kikuno are sisters, but could it be that Gengar and Golem traded with each other?
For the time being, Marmane is treated as an elite challenger at the level of the Four Kings in the context of a defense battle.
If the Four Heavenly Kings of Grass were in the story, it would seem fun, but if they have a serious carry-over feature after clearing the game, it would be really troublesome…
Flygon is just not classified as a Bug type in the system, but anyone can see that it has a bug motif, so it’s fine.
Well, wait.
If it’s included in the composite type of trump cards, then it’s fine to count it that way.
Karin also looks somewhat dark and bad, so it’s good that she’s using Rafflesia.
Kyō isn’t poisonous either, but he’s using Forretress because it looks like a ninja…
As it stands, there are users of Bug types.
Tsukushi… Hacchan
Artie… Hahakomori
Viola… Vivillon
Guzma… Guzzlord
Maple… Wanider (+Ringuma)
Since Ryo is properly making it an ace, he seems to be somewhat out of place.
It’s like, “Over or flames…?”
>>70…Next, let’s go.
It’s fine if it feels like a specialized type, but I want you to at least use a type that claims to be a trump card.
Fuwaraido causes a chain reaction with hot air balloons, so fire is fine, but I wonder what the others are…
Even though it has a scorpion motif, there is a problem with Scorpi evolving into something that is no longer an insect.
The Sinnoh region makes it easier to catch wild Steelix than Johto, which probably started a strange trend.
Flygon is a combination of a dragonfly and a spirit, right?
Well, if he showed up now, Ryo would definitely use something like Bug Terrace… right?
Ryo only refers to bug-type as bug Pokémon, and Ohba only refers to fire-type as fire Pokémon users, which somehow perfectly secures their escape routes.
To be honest, if it’s a bug-type team, you’ll need to gather some really strong Pokémon, or else it’ll be weak as an Elite Four.
>>79It depends on the region.
If it’s Isshu, Kalos, or Alola, it seems like I could assemble a really sharp lineup.
Over is using a male Lopunny with the ability Cute Charm, so he’s just a perverted degenerate.
Since Drapion is in the Water’s Edge egg group and appears in wetlands, and it can learn Aqua Tail, it might actually be a sea scorpion.
If there were the Four Heavenly Kings of Grass, they would probably annoyingly use Sleep Powder to go first.
Until Vibrava, it’s definitely a Bug-type Pokémon…
I can’t help but think how nice it would have been if there were a Bug-type expert in Paldea.
It’s a rare place with as many as five types of butterflies and moths.
>>84You’re here, right!?
>>89Yeah, that’s true, but since I’m in charge of the early part, there’s not much variety…
By the way, there are seven kinds of moths, including the paradox, in this very peculiar region.
>>84Kaede-san is going to get angry again.
I only play Platinum, so I was thinking it wasn’t a standard Fire-type team…
>>85The ratio of fire from DP to Pt has changed from 2/5 to 5/5.
It’s presumptuous of me to call myself a fire user.
There are still only Tsuchinin around, a dual-type Bug/Ground.
>>87Sand Madam!
I’m waiting for a Bug-type champion.
>>88It’s Adeku, isn’t it?
It’s a type that is only partially unified, like Daigo and Iris.
Isshu was originally home to a bug-catching old man as the champion…
Electric type is rather difficult to use, at least against the Elite Four, considering it is fundamentally rendered ineffective and loses unilaterally from the start.
>>91Isn’t the ground a ghost too?
>>91There are quite a few Elite Four members who have types with invalid moves.
I thought about Isshu and Kalos.
Jimuri has 4 or 5 creatures in the latter half (6-8).
I want to use five of the Four Heavenly Kings.
If it were Adeku, they could have become the Bug Champion.
Even though the types are different, as long as the motif is the same, both Flygon and Drapion are fine with me.
You haven’t even touched Mimilop, have you?
The Kalos Elite Four only has four members.
It can only be thought that there were plans to add a Mega Evolution slot.
>>102The Elite Four of Isshu had only four members before their enhancements anyway.
>>108Even after the enhancement, there’s still Karosu!!!
>>114It should be like that with the chateau, I suppose.
>>118Isn’t the Battle Chateau a different story?
>>118If left as is, the level will drop, and using the black challenge letter finally allows you to exceed the initial highest level, but the number of Pokémon you can hold also decreases to three, so it’s hard to say that the Château is a straightforward enhancement.
>>102It seems like there are some obvious signs of additions in Karlos, doesn’t it…?
Rather, electricity is quite troublesome without a blatant metaphor for the ground, and the image of the electricity side’s metaphor being easy to handle is due to the influence of Machinist Sennen Kamitsure.
If it’s a bug ground, there should be a antlion Pokémon, but why isn’t there, Kingler?
>>104A Pokémon that freely goes back and forth between stag beetles and antlions.
Electric types have several varieties of levitating and flying Pokémon, so they might actually be incredibly strong against ground types.
>>105I think I would be genuinely angry if I heard about the Electric Four Kings and then Tykaiden Shibuildon Emonga Rotom showed up.
Evil and dragons have the image of the Four Heavenly Kings.
The Kalos Elite Four is seriously weak.
It’s not so much that we’re weak, but rather that we might be getting too strong on this side.
Well, the fact that there is no reinforcement means it remains the weakest.
>>111Since it’s between 63 and 65, it’s the highest rank for NPCs appearing in the story, and the level of the Pokémon they use is high…
I don’t think it’s very good that Kaede’s character and Wanida are not really fitting well together.
I feel like there could have been better options for the Ringuma.
Evil has mostly been the Four Heavenly Kings, and it’s only recently that Gym Leaders have finally appeared…
I love how when I boldly charge at Kikuno saying “the ground is no match for water!” it immediately throws out a Nuoh or a Namazun!
It’s okay to have a grass champion that can start with Mascarena, right?
Kalos has one of the highest average levels in history.
>>119Usually, there’s about 60 calories in the last gym workout, which is around 45.
Not many people use the three starters in the Four Heavenly Kings.
Basically, the Three Houses are in the protagonist position, so in Dragon Quest, they would be the hero.
There’s no way I would play the villain.
Something like an over is really a super exception.
>>120Thanks to that, I’m getting a lot of good screen time in the anime.
>>120I think it’s significant that in this regard, the concept was that once you defeat all the trainers you can battle in the Diamond and Pearl scenario, you can complete the number of Pokémon found in the Sinnoh Pokédex.
A level 68 Mega Sableye is normally on par with a hidden boss class.
I wish that someone like Gym Leaders or the Elite Four would change the order of their Pokémon based on what they see from my Pokémon.
>>124Don’t you do it occasionally?
>>124There are also those who will come and do it.
>>124This is quite necessary.
Just by recalling lightly, the Alola Elite Four and the BDSP Elite Four mix up their order.
After all, having five Elite Four members and six champions is beautiful.
I think Champion Gampi of the Kalos Elite Four is strong.
In other words, Gardevoir is strong.
Why did Sinnoh end up with so many Fire-type Pokémon in the first place…?
>>128I think it’s just that there are a lot of water Pokémon in a region where surfing is not used much, so I wasn’t really thinking about it.
>>128It’s often said that just because it’s Hokkaido-themed, but actually, ice types are just as rare.
I’ve heard that male Milolop is in heat year-round, and it seems to keep a count of flames.
>>132Isn’t it too low?
Since the placement of trainers is abundant and the reinforcement learning device has been introduced, unless I restrict myself, I’ll end up fighting meticulously or taking detours to the chateau, resulting in me being about level 15 higher.
The reason there are few specialized types, the reason that if the image matches it’s okay to use different types, and the reason that the big three are not used all come through as an overwhelming presence.
In the past, the Four Heavenly Kings would only meet there, so we would develop their characters in things like Pokémon Special, but now it’s not so easy.
Because of changing the order, this guy became like my trump card! 🐙
The Electric Gym Leaders seem to have a high proportion of strong opponents.
Machis is a formidable opponent with the gym’s setup.
It’s crazy that Kalos is a region where Zygarde evolves normally in the story.
Actually, I’m encountering rare spawns on Champion Road.
I thought the Elite Four and Gym Leaders couldn’t use the starter Pokémon, but that wasn’t the case at all!!
Isn’t it Sinnoh that’s overusing Steelix?
>>144It also appears in the electric gym…
Why is that?
>>147Is it because you can use the lightning fangs?
>>144Since it’s a Steel type, I will use Steelix.
I will use Steelix because it can use Ice Fang.
I’ll use Steelix because it can use Thunder Fang.
Since I can use Fire Fang, I’ll use Steelix.
Well, Octane is red and it’s a tank, so I’ll just barely allow it…
Oba would be troubled if something like “Gallop, gallop, Moukazaru, Moukazaru, Goukazaru” happened like with Prim from Hoenn…
>>146I think Prim is too resolute in the opposite way.
It’s true that I intentionally came to Hoenn for training.
A messy lineup of hand-held items called “prim from hibiscus.”
Steelix is more likely to appear in the wild than with a trainer, which makes me wonder.
I highly regard Fuyou as a ghost type user who has never used Gengar even once until now…
>>154When everyone is in trouble, they put down the Gengar line, right?
>>159It’s fast and has a lot of firepower…
>>161It is also popular…
Since I’ve benefited from Onix’s experience points up to the Steel Gym, I can’t speak ill of him…
Yamirami, Jupeletta, Jupeletta, Samayoru, Samayoru are pretty much done, but they are still at their final evolution barely.
>>156I think the existence of Yamirami is significant.
It’s easy if you have Dugtrio, but catching Dugtrio in the first place is tough.
>>157In the first place, the danger of being killed by Dugtrio is higher, and unless it miraculously happens to be a one-hit knockout with a throw, it’s usually not in a normal party.
It’s amazing that Fuyou is quite a strong opponent even without using Gengar.
No, it’s really not cool. It’s a grinding game, so stop spamming those suspicious light attacks from Mayol.
Why did you hide Bubarun and Elekible?
>>160Are you hiding the additional characters other than Roserade, Eteboss, Maneyura, Donkarasu, and Mumaaji?
I don’t think anyone would complain if Prim used something like a Sakuromachi or Huntail.
I feel like Lucario is also sometimes included when I’m hesitating about something.
>>166It’s bad that putting in Lucario and Machamp gives off a feeling of being a powered-up fighter.
I haven’t even had trouble with acerola, but I started using Gengar in the anime!
The Samayou from Fuyou is truly unpleasant and amazing at first sight.
That gloomy behavior coming from that outfit is deception, isn’t it?
There were also fighters who called it a “woofer” while putting in two of the same rock.
>>170I wonder why it couldn’t be Ocorizaru.
I feel like Gengar, Snorlax, Lucario, and Braviary are the ones that are just included when in trouble.
The strong presence of trainers emerging from communication exchanges is amazing.
The people in SV who go out of their way to unify and make it easier to defeat with Terastal are a bit tricky and difficult.
>>175I wish they had thought a bit more about the Terastal settings besides just Nanjamo.
>>181I like the fruit that came from a lie.
>>181I really like that Usokkie actually becomes grass.
Acerola isn’t using Gengar either, come to think of it.
Guariahena Tengu Night Shark Hard Absol
Great.
It’s understandable that Oko Rizaru doesn’t look like a Shiba.
But there’s no way to use two Onixes.
The fighting against Ghost types didn’t have many special Pokémon like Water or Normal types, but because experts always bring them out, my team after strengthening is generally a disaster.
Even Shiba has started to use Lucario as his trump card.
The Ice Terrace Chiltalis is just too weak…
It’s a waste that there’s no grass expert in the Isshu region, which is a treasure trove of super strong grass Pokémon.
At least Shiba should use Golem.
That guy in the communications group doesn’t use a trainer.
>>183Since we have Machamp in the communication group.
I actually like that Shiba uses Lucario despite it being a Fighting-type, as it doesn’t match the image at all.
Ghost users who have used Gengar, regardless of the enhanced version, anime, or media.
Kikuko, Matsuba, Melissa, Shikimi, Onion
Not using anything at all.
Hibiscus, lime
>>187Shall we take a break from anime for a while?
>>189In a way, not using it at all in anime, manga, or Pokémon Masters shows that the character’s traits are strong.
Ugh…
If you’re on an adventure, the Pokédex gets filled, and it does get filled in reality, but I don’t remember where in Sinnoh I met a trainer who uses Munchlax and Beldum…
>>190If it’s Platinum, the additional evolution types are mostly found with Elite Trainers or Veterans on Champion Road.
>>190I think those two are on Champion Road.
Kikuko is practically overusing poison.
It’s strange that despite Hoenn emphasizing such vast nature and having many corresponding Pokémon, there aren’t any Grass-type users.
In reality, I can understand why one wouldn’t want to use Gengar, as its ability to lower the temperature by 5 degrees in a Fuyou form would be undesirable.
Isn’t it a bit unfair for the early Gym Leaders to have Zugaidos and Roserade?
>>198It’s a broken wing!!
>>198I’m sorry, it’s lower than Starmie, so please forgive me.
Melissa’s upgraded version has replaced Mismagius with Gengar as the ace, which is somehow sad.
>>199I felt sad when the ace of the enhanced Cattleya changed from Gothitelle to Metagross.
>>203It’s sad that the ace is changing…
Champion Road too!