
Honki Yardo
You guys (resellers) deserve to die, that’s only natural!
It’s not resale, but it’s okay to transfer with your feelings attached.
>>1Listing itself is prohibited…
>>4This is an empty box for Switch2, but there may be a chance that the contents are still inside by mistake.
>>18There are people selling empty boxes that seem like they contain something, which is why it’s come to this.
The regulations are meaningless because Mercari, where the resellers gather the most, isn’t motivated.
Mercari also canceled all transactions of Switch 2 that were in violation of their terms.
>>5Listing without stock before the release date is not allowed, but after June 5, we will not do anything.
>>6Ugh! Trash!
They’ll probably just resell normally except for the prohibition of short selling.
If you do too much, you’ll be interfering with the disposal of assets.
Yahoo is surprisingly accommodating, just like with the PS5.
It seems like there will be account bans as mentioned here.
>>8Just banning listings without inventory won’t suddenly make it okay after June 5th, right…?
I think Yahoo was quite bold, but doesn’t it make no sense unless Rakuten and Mercari, who have the same agreements, do the same thing? It’ll just flow over to them, right?
Maybe they just haven’t expressed it yet.
PS5 “That’s, that’s not fair, Nintendo!”
If Mercari isn’t shut down, it doesn’t mean anything, right?
I guess they’re saying the same thing to Amazon too.
It’s the consumer’s freedom to decide what to do with what they’ve bought! Don’t say such unreasonable things, you mere game store! This has already been taken to court in the past.
Is it the limit to stop selling without inventory?
As long as the slightly sneaky behavior of individuals decreases.
It will probably flow to Alipay and Taobao.
Well, since reselling after the release date isn’t against the rules or anything, it can’t be helped.
If the government regulates it, it will be resolved.
To think they would clamp down at the guidelines stage.
Hey, don’t you think it’s a good idea from Mercari and Rakuten? Let’s imitate it!
>>17That’s right.
It’s a casual expression often used to show agreement or affirmation, similar to “It’s true” or “You know.”
You can see how the PS5 messed up with its support.
It’s strange that Nintendo has taken on so much burden.
Regulations around resale are not making much progress, and it’s a tough era.
It’s not enough for Mercari to just monopolize…
Rakuma doesn’t have any people in the first place.
What’s the benefit of accepting the request for Rakuten and Mercari not to list items?
>>24Do not attract hate from the public.
>>24It saves the hassle of dealing with the overwhelming number of listing cancellation requests and inquiry emails.
There’s no reason not to engage in a business where nearly 1000 yen in profit comes in for each item sold.
Not taking measures against reselling might harm the company’s image.
>>28The users are all people who don’t care about that kind of thing…
>>28So, I don’t think most people will stop using Mercari just because of that.
The original image is pretty terrible to begin with.
Rakuten will likely follow suit, but Mercari probably won’t.
Even if they issue a statement as a pose, they’ll still be left unchecked.
It’s okay for Nintendo to do it, but I wonder why it annoys me to see fans getting all worked up on social media.
Mercari is really awful.
We can only do what we are capable of right now.
It’s just the country now.
Ah, what a hassle…
Should I sell it on Mercari?
It may be possible to restore the considerably damaged image of the flea market industry.
It might be impossible.
If it’s impossible, then it’s fine not to do it.
Isn’t it impossible to do anything if we don’t do it on Mercari, even if it’s a groundbreaking initiative?
Well, even during the PS5 era, second-hand shops were buying it at prices above the retail price, so I feel like there are loopholes.
The country won’t move for something like a game, even though it finally took action during the global COVID pandemic.
>>39I wish they would eliminate reselling, which is rampant not just in games.
What is Mercari trying to achieve by signing the agreement?
I think they even see it as a blue ocean.
If new products gradually become cheaper, there will be no reason to buy from resellers!
It’s because I can’t do it that I become prey for resellers.
Measures against fraudulent listing activities.
Agreed services (in alphabetical order)
Service Name Service Provider
Mercari, Inc. Mercari
Yahoo! Auctions
and Yahoo! Freemarket LINE Yahoo Corporation
Rakuten Rakuma, Rakuten Group Inc.
Mercari has agreed too!
>>43We have not agreed on anything regarding after the sale…
>>43This is aimed at unauthorized listings and does not apply to legitimate resale.
Yahoo’s measures are effectively a ban on reselling because they pertain to the listing of the Switch 2 itself.
>>55S-s-sincere gambling!?
>>43It prohibits selling without inventory or selling before the official release.
Only Yahoo is saying that it will prohibit it even after the release.
>>57Isn’t that an obvious thing?
Are you saying that unless you make a formal agreement, it’s just left unchecked?
>>69If you have a normal way of thinking, don’t you understand that it’s happening because it’s not something that is taken for granted?
>>69The more you resell, the more intermediary fees I get, so feel free to do as you like (if you’re selling properly)!
What authority does a company like Nintendo have?
Mercari may discuss and announce something from tomorrow onwards.
Mercari is just thinking “Serves Yahoo right.”
When it came to the PS5, Mercari was the only one that ignored Sony’s request…
You just need to list it on Amazon Prime, right?
Mercari is just superficial and gets ignored.
Prohibiting fraudulent listings such as no inventory is different from prohibiting the resale of physical items.
Are you going to pass it along in code?
If you’re going that far, let’s do it via DM.
>>53“If you say things like ‘S hand-pushed,’ you’ll get marked by the police…”
>>63What does this mean?
Doing things like this only decreases the number of users, and you don’t gain anything, so it would be better not to do unnecessary things.
>>54Reverse
It increases because you can only conduct transactions there.
I’m scared to intervene in the disposal of an individual’s property, and I don’t want it to come down to just the two options of disposal or free provision.
What I really want is for you not to be so eager about it.
I can’t believe a company that has become a breeding ground for crime would take measures to reduce profits made by resellers at this late stage.
Perhaps they will detect and ban it through image recognition, so selling without a title will probably be a no-go too.
Isn’t it okay to list as many items as you want as long as you don’t raise the price?
>>64Even if you list it at the regular price, it will still go up endlessly in an auction.
Let’s share how to buy through Taobao on TikTok.
“Please treat me like a nun.”
I will output it with a full-color switch (2-way)…
One example of humanity being too early for the internet.
Isn’t everyone who wants a Switch2 already a winner?
>>71Oh, that’s right.
If we don’t do something after the release, doesn’t that make it meaningless?
Auction sites can’t ignore these kinds of discussions because they’re also suffering from reputational damage.
I don’t know what the true feelings are, though.
Well, it seems there’s no problem as far as I’m selling it.
I can understand if this is about rice or masks, but it’s a 50,000 yen game… so it’s hard to accept.
Yahoo LINE has been warned that if they neglect measures and allow reselling to run rampant, they could be sued for damages. Did they receive such a message?
>>82Why did you open the thread of this image?
There’s no way to expect anything from a company that was even encouraging the resale of rice.
It’s quite a bold move to ban listings.
Good job, Yahoo! I’ll buy something later.
Everyone has a strong trust in Mercari.
>>87If they were to yield at this level, that site would have already been crushed a long time ago.
That’s amazing!
It’s impressive how far you’ve come, considering there’s a possibility it could violate antitrust laws.
Personally, I don’t want to take the gamble of buying high-priced second-hand precision machinery at flea markets…
There is more risk than AliExpress.
>>93That’s why it’s a problem if people start thinking they have no choice but to buy it.
Is the ban on listings only related to Yahoo?
>>94In the first place, selling items without inventory should always be prohibited regardless of the switch.
Well, Amazon is worse than Mercari, though.
Is it safe if it’s not resale but rather flipping?
>>96It would be great if I could explain the actual differences between Imagawa-yaki and Oban-yaki.
Rakuten also has regular resale listings.
I wonder if they’ll sell it in a way that comes with a tissue as a bonus or something like that.
I won multiple times, but I don’t need so many, so I just thought of listing them for sale…
Since I won it, I thought it would be a waste not to buy it, so I went ahead and bought it.
“Definitely not for resale purposes…”
>>100Cancel the purchase.
I wonder if Amazon will just obediently listen to what Nintendo says.
>>101Since they’re giving multiple wins to one person, there’s no way they’d listen.
>>101In the first place, the Amazon Marketplace is full of problems.
Mercari is without rules, right?
>>103Listings for codes get deleted really quickly.
>>112Code…? Why…?
>>114It was misused terribly, possibly for money laundering or something like that.
>>136Ah…
Well, anything goes for the items, but I guess it’s just a game of cat and mouse.
Isn’t “no resale” an exaggeration?
Yahoo aside, it seems possible to do the others as long as they’re not fraudulent.
Nintendo Switch 2 console
box
It might be because Yahoo Shopping doesn’t prohibit it, but it’s listed for around 80,000 yen…
There’s no reason for Amazon to listen in the first place.
In the case of Mercari, even if it’s prohibited, they will go as far as suspending the account.
It’s meaningless because you can be reborn immediately.
>>111Is there identity verification?
>>118You can sell without identity verification and also cash it out.
You cannot convert to cash with Yahoo.
From the perspective of Mercari and flea markets, it feels like they are being directly ordered not to profit from my products, and even if it’s nominally just a name, why did these guys agree to this agreement?
I thought they would stick to their guns and sell as much as they can, ignoring everything like Amazon does.
>>115If you only think about short-term profits and sell off your credibility, it will ultimately lead to exclusive sales on the official site.
>>115Mercari has started a quality inspection center to counter counterfeit brand items, even though they could just ignore it since their sales are increasing.
>>127If a site is called one that only scammers use, it’s only natural that sales would drop, so they would at least put on a show of taking measures.
They probably compensated for the loss from the resale fees on Yahoo…
A hand cart will appear in Akihabara again.
Let’s attack together.
>>117I want to see a bit of the reseller vs. dark part-time job.
Well, that dark part-time job ultimately gets used for resale.
Is the resold Switch just going to flow into the marketplace?
>>119Selling items that you own is not a problem outside of Yahoo, as long as you are not engaging in prohibited listings without inventory.
Umaibo (with a bonus) 60,010 yen
Well, there are no laws for an online shop where it’s okay if the product doesn’t arrive.
What are the nearly 100,000 listings on the aupay market?
Is it not selling?
If it can be resold normally after the release date, then it won’t change anything.
It feels like, if you can pull it off, go ahead and try selling exclusively on the official website.
What should I do if it really gets prohibited and I hit multiple times?
>>130If you just won, then you don’t have to buy it.
>>130For now, it’s only Yahoo that is prohibited, so I can sell on Mercari.
>>135This is so like Meru-sama!!!
>>130Sell to Rudea.
They don’t have the authority to prohibit resale itself.
Since Amazon is not in there, the marketplace is bustling.
>>134Are you happy that the out-of-stock items are bustling…? It’s just increasing the landmines…
Credit Card Master
Give me my money back!
The flea market sites should be managed by the police now.
It seems like they might do things like bundling products together to make it safe, or involving completely unrelated items on the surface.
I think the government generally does not want to empower manufacturers.
Everyone keeps talking about flea markets, but marketplaces and buyback shops are much larger in scale.
I understand that banning reselling is unrealistic, but at least properly regulate listings without inventory.
>>146Isn’t this considered a prohibited act at this point?
These guys don’t care about reselling after the sale; they just hate having to deal with unnecessary complaints from failed no-inventory sales, which is why they made an agreement.
I feel like asking what authority they had to make Yahoo stop handling this.
>>150It’s not about authority, right?
The conversation that I asked for and received agreement on.
I am aware that I am earning hate as a flea market site, so I cooperated to improve my image.
I wonder if it’s good that codes are still doing well on Yahoo Auctions, while I continue to use it.
Depending on the move, there might be a crackdown on unauthorized resale like tickets.
It’s becoming too much of a social issue lately.
Well, it seems there will be various ways to avoid it.
Well, I think it’s fine to do whatever you want, like not handling a certain product.
It makes me feel like there’s no difference between the pressure from a company affecting the products they handle and the pressure from credit card companies, or something like that.
>>156It might be the presence or absence of social justice.
>>161In other words… it’s about your feelings…
>>161It means nothing is different.
>>161That thing from the credit card company is, in a way, considered socially just from a Western perspective.
>>156Credit card censorship stops transactions, and reselling blocks products to inflate prices, so both are criticized for halting distribution, yet they are consistent in their actions.
Mercari probably won’t issue a statement like Yahoo does because they have legal violations attached to them.
Sony should take a lesson from this.
>>158In the end, is this all you wanted to say?
It’s too late to say that after I couldn’t buy it on the release date.
Well, the side that can profit from reselling doesn’t benefit from forming an agreement, so they did it for some other advantage.
It might be about avoiding troubles related to image enhancement and drop shipping.
The topic has been looping since the morning.
You can’t stop a purchasing dealer who has a secondhand dealer license, so it’s better to sell to the dealer.
Mercari also started taking measures after being criticized for sending model kit runners and gummies from scammers, so they might follow Yahoo’s lead, right?
Isn’t it likely that it will end up being listed on an auction site anyway?
>>165Not everyone is registered on MakePro.
Stop wholesaling to Amazon, which is overflowing with dropshipping in the marketplace.
>>169Well, if you really don’t like it, you don’t have to sell it, right? That’s probably Amazon’s attitude…
If we don’t do something about the marketplace and buyback dealers, it’s just a meager amount.
>>170Originally, the portion flowing into the flea market is just a small part.
The main keep is a buying shop.
Isn’t it just a matter of dealing with dropshipping?
If Mercari’s response is just empty words, it’ll be laughable.
It’s just a matter of not using the credit card, so I don’t really care.
Marketplace now requires proof of purchase for electronics, so I don’t think dropshipping is possible.
What is the resale situation like overseas?
I think one reason for the increase in reselling is the high level of trust in transactions using flea markets in Japan.
>>179The original price is high, and it’s fairly normal to be able to make a reservation.
Initially aside, the price difference with the PS5 has always been small on their side too.