
What a good girl…
Suikoden I & II HD Remaster: The War of the Gate’s Emblem / The Dunan Unification War
If there hadn’t been a war, she would be a kind-hearted older sister who cares for her younger brother, right?
A bothersome person who constantly nags me with petty criticisms about what I do.
Many boys at that time had that impression.
>>2
When she acts more like a mom than an older sister, it can really annoy young boy and girl players.
During the escape event, I was frustrated thinking, “Are they still saying such spoiled things back then? Don’t you understand that neither I nor Joui can back down anymore!!!”
I didn’t have any thoughts other than that you’ve always been a bit of a worrywart since then.
The trend of being disliked itself is surprising.
>>3
I heard it quite often back then, but I wonder if it’s about how people perceive being meddlesome.
When she activates Shiden, she becomes a very strong sister with overall haste.
There might be that, too, because there are many female players.
>>6
Well, I think this might be it.
The difference in the way men and women think about a close female character who takes care of the male protagonist.
>>6
Nanami was still in the position of a stepsister, so she didn’t receive much hate, but the backlash against Rion after that was remarkable at the time.
>>25
Rion becomes a bit like this even if it’s not a female user.
It’s the second rock axe from now.
I must make sure not to fail…
It might leave a strong impression that the protagonist was pushed and slammed against the wall at the beginning.
>>8
In such a heartwarming scene?!
>>8
When I returned to see that wall at the end without Nanami, it was really heartbreaking…
Gremio understands early on that the young master no longer needs his protection.
Nanami feels like a sister who couldn’t separate from her younger brother.
The protagonist doesn’t seem that eager to do it either.
I wonder if it would turn out that way from Nanami’s perspective.
The young master is too much of a mental strength monster.
I can’t help but compare.
It’s a conversion bonus, so it doesn’t affect the story.
If I told Leon, who is in the alliance, about McDowell’s young master, he would probably get really flustered.
Being treated as a rebel and exiled from the country.
To float the body of Odessa, which almost shared a common ideal, down the river.
The death of Gremio is tough, but I’ll stand up right away and leave behind his belongings.
Defeating my father and watching over him.
I won’t return the Soul Eater to Ted.
Commanding the troops to deploy, understanding the dying wish of Mash.
Is it possible that the boy is quite scary?
>>15
I’m sorry, I asked Victor to do it after refusing three times, my boy.
>>24
If you say you understood it on the first try, Victor will get angry.
Even if you talk about separating from my younger brother, in this chaotic world, he is my only family…
>>16
If the other person becomes a Jooi, I’ll worry even more.
Occasionally mentioned in light novels, being caught up in the extraordinary.
For readers and players who are enjoying that situation.
An existing presence that was always nearby is a meddlesome presence trying to bring you back to everyday life.
I think it’s something like that.
In a supplementary manner, I guess it’s officially established that Joui doesn’t die.
The boy is clearly being educated to succeed the shogun, even if it is said.
The main character is just an ordinary boy, isn’t he?
It just happened to be the Tenkai Star…
“Why do you have to become the leader and fight?! Nanami’s question is really valid.”
Just
>>21
I also struggled with that back then, Nanami.
To be honest, I’m not really that into Leon either…
It’s not that I hate it, but the sparkles…
Until the rock axe, the protagonist hasn’t made up their mind to fight against Joey, right?
Otherwise, I won’t easily go to Muse.
Nanami’s evaluation has been reconsidered quite a bit, possibly because the players from that time have aged, but the one who has consistently continued to accumulate hate from back then to now within the 108 is Jess.
Excuse me, is there no punch button in this game?
Jess is okay with being punched by the teddy bear.
The bear must have had it harder, having passed away…
>>34
Right after having such a calm conversation, you get assassinated…
>>34
The bear’s pocket is too big, or rather, too adult-like.
If it were 1, they would have run off without paying…
I’m currently playing the remaster, but I’ve stopped right before entering the Rock Axe.
It’s okay because everyone is gathered, but still…
I played it for the first time in the remaster, but isn’t Joey’s behavior just the worst?
>>40
It feels like a decision made without much thought, almost like a child trying their best to think.
Despite various things going exceptionally well, it’s quite surprising that I was able to move forward smoothly without any hiccups along the way…
>>40
It’s impossible to create peace with an urban alliance… and on top of that, my brain is half-burned by Luka…
As a result of thinking about the remaining half, I decided to take over because if it’s Luka, it won’t stop until everything is scorched earth.
>>57
It has already become a burned-out wasteland, hasn’t it?
>>76
Anyway, I wanted to unify the alliance and the kingdom, so some degree of pain was a necessary expense.
Will you forgive me?
Will you forgive me?
Good Beginning Emblem
>>40
Joey’s actions have their supporters and detractors, but I can’t help but feel that it’s largely due to the cycle of consequences from Annabelle’s father coming back around to her.
If I were the main character, I would have confidence in making my big sister Nanami into a woman instead of just a sister.
>>41
The escape end involves getting pregnant and then dying from weakness due to the power of the emblem, leaving one alone.
My Water Margin ends with Nanami dying and Jooi being killed, but what about you?
It’s nice how thoughtful Victor is despite his appearance.
When the protagonist comes back via the tint escape route, they’re probably hungry and tired! Right? Anyway, let’s take a break! It’s so kind of them to say that.
The bear’s hugging power is amazing, isn’t it?
If it comes down to choosing between Victor and the boy, I feel like I would choose the boy.
At first glance, Flick seems calm, but in 2, he’s like, “Why is everyone in such a rush to die? It’s about being alive!” and when Nanami dies, he expresses, “This is way too harsh for the protagonist! We all worked so hard to get here!” It’s really nice to see him show such strong emotions…
>>46
Flick is exactly an experienced person… and since he originally has a passionate temperament, he has just been keeping it in check now that he’s part of the adult group.
>>53
Since the release, it’s like, “Calm down when you do 1, okay?”
Well, if your lover dies, it will become like that.
It’s understandable for Flick to get angry to that extent…
Is Flick properly taking responsibility and marrying Nina?
I think it’s a simple and straightforward fact that one side has to win the war for it to end.
>>51
Well, that’s how it is.
It’s more difficult to live in harmony and balance, so it’s ultimately more effective to show who’s superior and govern accordingly.
It’s Flick, who became an adult and changed after turning 2.
It’s really great to see such an emotional explosion around Green Hill…
Joey’s desired ending is probably the escape ending.
From Joey’s perspective, he feels that the two of them are too important and is wholeheartedly determined to keep them away from the chaos of war, so he believes that he should take it all upon himself, and that’s the resolve behind his actions.
Joie’s strong determination, intelligence, and the presence of good people around are all to blame.
The way the consequences of previous generations are affecting the children is severe, with various aspects not just at a level of repayment but in a chaotic manner.
Annabelle’s dad, Therese’s dad, and Goldo should seriously suffer in hell forever.
No, come back to life and get beaten up in this world before falling back into hell again.
>>59
I also forgot about Agarest.
I cannot say that Jōi is the worst until the very end.
Nanami only had elements that would make her popular.
I was a little surprised to find there was someone I didn’t really like.
>>62
When I said there were quite a few Nanami antis, I got hammered here saying, “There’s no way that’s true, you’re just being a fake fan!”
>>62
I think she was deliberately showing that annoying big sister vibe of never being able to let go of her younger brother and treating him like a child.
Hit him with Goldo’s surprise attack.
If you show me that much strength, then after that… you know?
The three members of the Carol group are all too impressive…
Aren’t you still around 16 or 17?
The master looks particularly young due to their hairstyle and clothing, which makes the harshness stand out even more.
I just found out for the first time that I’m also a Nanami anti right now.
I may have never heard or seen it because I haven’t touched the internet’s Suikoden community at all.
From Joey’s perspective, the protagonist is rapidly subjugating the lords and close aides of other city alliances and expanding their territory, so they might appear to be possessed by power.
>>70
In any case, the plan was to unify the alliance and the kingdom under Luka’s hand and then rebel and take over, but it must have been too unexpected that my best friend rose up.
Just killing a single girl is nothing.
Two true emblem bearers attacking together.
No blood, no tears!
The reason the protagonist of Suikoden II is a leader seems to be that he was the adopted child of a once-honored general, and it makes it easier for him to gather support and be very well-liked…
I understand why my family recommended that I just throw it away and run away.
>>73
I never would have thought that my unreliable younger brother had the talent of Tenkai and possessed the true emblem…
>>77
We were together where we stayed, weren’t we?
If you have that power… that must be everything for Joie.
In reality, it was much more complex.
Who did the main character end up with in the end?
>>75
If it were the true route, we would have traveled together again as three people.
The most unforgivable thing is Joey, who ran away after marrying Jill.
It’s like the main character is making another woman give birth too; what a jerk.
Well, if we stay together, it might bring harm to both of us, and I don’t know how to face you now…
>>80
Uh… whose thing…?
>>85
Maybe it’s about Lucia’s husband.
But I only mentioned that I was one of those who went to the Green Hill invasion, and I thought we were of the same kind.
When you think that a son of a local minor noble (not actually a son) can become an emperor through marriage in just a few years, it’s an incredibly impressive background and charisma for Joey.
I thought Highland was a really big country because they invade when I’m playing games, but I was surprised when I saw the overall map.
If Luka, Joey, and Leon disappear, won’t this country just be swallowed up and come to an end?
>>83
Harmonia is too big and dangerous.
It was definitely not far from an invasion.
>>83
So it was destroyed and not annexed by Dunann.
And then to the stage of the later High East Rebellion.
>>91
Originally, Highland was a country established from the independence of the Harmonia Holy Kingdom, so from Harmonia’s perspective, there is no need for a reason to attack…
I don’t think you really want forgiveness, you know, Joie…
>>84
I’m sorry…
By the way, why was the second protagonist able to unite the rebels?
She’s just a child with a true emblem.
>>87
What should I do? Luka has invaded!
Oh, look, the grandchild of the hero of the former alliance who bears the true emblem is here.
>>87
The emblem that Grandpa Genkaku and Grandpa held was significant for the City Alliance…
In a way, Joey stubbornly pushed forward with a self-righteous mindset, but it’s not that he was irresponsible, so I don’t dislike him.
The RPG part was interesting, but the SRPG segment was incredibly painful.
I cleared it, but I couldn’t understand what kind of system it was.
I was relieved that almost everything was left unattended because it ended with the event.
The war part of 2 is just plain crap.
>>93
So, does that mean the others were good!?
>>93
But
Reinforcements are coming to Highland… Harmonia and… is that the tribe from Grassland?!
I like the kind of production that makes me feel the vastness of the world.
I ended up having to reset because Gilbert, who had turned traitor while I was waiting in the war part of 2, was killed in action.
Wait a minute, I’ve never heard of the theory about Hugo’s father being Joey before.
>>99
It was quite major as a nonsense story.
It’s more understandable that Chris is related to Joey by blood…
I think there is a resemblance in appearance between Hugo and Joey to some extent.
Around the bangs
Hugo’s father was in the unit that was left behind at the end and died while allowing the tribe to escape, but I think he died there.
Aren’t you too busy to be doing something like that, Joey?
I’m feeling mentally cornered, so I probably can’t get an erection due to depression, right, Joey?
As a possibility that cannot be denied, it has become one of the fairly mainstream theories as a result of the nature of otaku, who seek connections in everything…
At that time, I often visited the second sites related to Suikoden, and I saw quite a few works written based on that theory.
“Still, it’s understandable that I was pinned down by Luka and made to conceive!”
…Huh? Was Luka already dead when the Karayakran tribe arrived?
>>112
Luca seems like he wouldn’t do it himself, but rather have his subordinates do it.
Well, Hugo’s hair color is the same as Lucia’s!
It’s mixed with black, though.
>>113
So I thought back then that if my father’s evidence was his hair, then he must be a person with black hair.
I used to hate Pan, but now I can understand it.
>>114
From Paan’s perspective, Theo is a benefactor and a trusted superior.
I think there was a considerable amount of conflict in betraying that and ultimately siding with the young master.
Rather, Cleo, what the hell are you? You’re all for the liberation army too.
Luca doesn’t seem to get aroused.
I thought Pan would be a character who dies and takes responsibility.
Meg’s father is Karakuri Maru.
The boy’s tolerance is so broad that he forgives anyone…
As for Nanami, besides being her only brother, there are also quite raw desires between men and women mixed in…
>>124
You can feel the subconscious, thick lewdness, right?
Aren’t there any descendants of Nanami?
For now, the latest entry in the Suikoden series is still at 3…
In about ten years from now, more kids from the first and second generation will probably emerge.
I think Cleo has extraordinary feelings for the young master.
But Soul Eater doesn’t eat.
I recently played it, but was there really a scene where Soul Eater killed Odessa as Anonymous said? Did I miss it?
>>129
Level up = predation.
>>132
Did they die nearby, and is it because of Soul Eater?
>>133
It seems like it interferes with fate.
Nanami disliked being forced into the PT (physical training) more than her personality did.
I at least want you to be in the accompanying person slot.
The target of Soul Eater is probably Kasumi.
I’ll keep my distance…
Well, it’s fine for an uncle and his niece to do that, right?
The reason Odessa earned Soul Eater points in such a short period is…
It is believed that there was a physical relationship with the young master.
>>137
Think about Flick too!
>>138
I want a fling that doesn’t involve a physical relationship.
>>139
It’s too unnatural to imply such a close relationship and then claim there’s no physical relationship.
Once you carry the true 27 emblems, it’s all over.