
What kind of Pokémon do you think are helpful and active in any region?
As a condition, it’s limited to those that evolve in two stages like the Three Houses.
It’s fine to give an answer at the level of who’s stronger between Stallone and Van Damme.
The Pokémon that the protagonist and the rival receive is one of these three. They are important partners who will share in the adventure together.
Mukkuru
Dear Coil
Metagross
>>3
It’s too hellish until I become Metang.
I thought Garchomp would be just right, but that also evolves slowly.
If it has an inherited trait, it might be a fighting Pokémon that learned the three-color punch.
It seems strong, but it’s not really that great, even if it’s a 600 base stat Pokémon that can be used early on.
I see, it’s not just about performance, but I also have to consider the evolution level and the required experience points.
A Pokémon that is strong against early-game bugs and grass, has balanced defense and special defense, and has no four-times weakness… It’s Corviknight!
Without a doubt, Mizugoro.
Mukkul
Coil has decent abilities and type, but it remains unevolved until level 30, and above all, its early moves are too weak.
>>11
Soni and Dennji are good as capture factors.
Gardevoir
>>12
It’s too weak until it evolves into Gardevoir.
Kirlia, you only have a base stat total of 278…?
I took a quick look, but narrowing it down with the condition of having a total base stats of over 500 with two-stage evolution is quite tough.
Pamochan
Yoteri
Nidoking
>>17
It seems to be a staple in red and green RTA.
Are there children in similar positions in other generations of RTA?
>>58
Is it a flamingo in sv?
It won’t evolve, but…
>>58
It’s not evolution, but flamingos are strong, aren’t they?
I wonder if I can be active no matter which region I’m in?
>>58
Not evolved but luchable.
In the case of four generations of looping, the adoption criteria are completely different, but many people focusing on efficiency often used Kirinriki.
>>58
In 2020, BW Mooland’s evaluation suddenly skyrocketed.
If it’s limited to stories, how about Kanuchan?
I don’t know what to do about types before steel and fairy.
Surprisingly, there aren’t many choices for a fire attacker that’s fast and has strong firepower.
The Yoteri tribe may be plain, but they’re strong, right?
It’s unfair to combine forces right from the beginning.
It’s a bit tough that there’s only PP5.
How about Amager?
>>22
I tried incorporating travel in Sun and Moon, but honestly, it wasn’t that strong.
It’s tough because being too weak until the Amamaiko era is just painful, and even if you reach Amājo, it’s like, hmm, you don’t really learn any strong moves since it’s just Grass type.
It makes me think that the Three Houses are designed with game balance in mind…
Numelgon
Mukkuru is really well-tuned, isn’t it?
Give a little more to Rentler.
Considering the balance, the latest top three are quite excellent options, but grass types do tend to show some noticeable drawbacks.
Nackler
>>29
The speed is completely out of whack, and the drop in power after the first evolution is just too bad.
>>29
Nacler is stronger than I thought, and on the contrary, Vibrava is seriously weaker than I expected.
Grass can be easily deceived with sleep powder, but that route has already been completed by Banna.
Among the 600 species and those resembling the 600 series, Fukumaru, Gabite, and Garchomp are…
I think it’s still at an evolution level that can withstand being used from the start.
Actually, you can use Platinum after clearing two gyms.
Mankey
Bakuong
I’m amazed by the high level of completion of the Water Three Houses.
Especially Ordile and Lurage.
>>36
Since it’s a Water type, it’s like having Surf + an Ice move + something extra, so it’s already ahead of the starting line.
When the additional ground type of the rug and the range of the level moves of Dial come together, it becomes quite a situation.
Traveling with the 1.25 million type from the beginning is a bit…
It’s a narrow range, but Gardevoir and Chandelure.
Chandelure is relatively wide, right?
It’s the same as Loud Borne.
Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, Flamethrower, Psychokinesis
It’s quite spacious, isn’t it, Chandelure?
A Nidoran♂ that becomes a Pokémon called Pikaversion Purple (not Violet)
When it evolves at a certain level, and has decent attack, speed, and resistance without being too weak before evolution, the options become quite limited.
>>43
Fushide
A versatile type with species value distribution in either AS or CS, having a wide range of moves… There’s quite a few even when narrowed down.
>>44
It seems that it’s possible to narrow it down quite a bit since around level 35, you can achieve final evolution, and you can further sort based on the range of level-specific moves.
Pichu
Chandelure evolves through the use of a stone, huh…
The one that has the highest base stats before evolving in a Pokémon that evolves into a second stage?
Leopard seal
>>49
Isn’t it far to Todogura?
I think fire and water types that are not present in the early game can perform well.
It’s fine if the total base stats aren’t high, as long as the distribution focuses on Attack Speed and Critical Hit Rate, that’s true.
Ditto and such
Actually, I think Geodude has quite a bit of potential.
>>54
Perfect for complementing the start of gold and silver, with proven results.
I’ve seen that face in red and green so many times, plus Golem evolves through trading, so I have some resistance to it, but…
It seems good that the ones that were added later have a certain level of strength at the second stage of evolution.
Coil is likely to appear early on these days and performs well with its overwhelming resistance to steel.
I think flying and fighting are quite useful in a travel party.
Seriously, a kiss.
>>59
Isn’t starting with Togepi the worst?
Beedrill
I’m sorry, I made a mistake.
1. The evolution stage has weak speed, major weaknesses, and the self-learned moves until you gather all the essential TMs are lacking.
Is this the condition for elimination?
>>64
Half of them are gathered, that’s crazy Chicorita.
A monster called Kyojion.
Miniryu
In other words, it’s a Pokémon outside of the “Three Houses” that has well-rounded base stats and easy-to-use moves from the first to the third evolution, and has a strong ACS.
Mr./Ms. Pamo
>>72
The range of techniques with the Tetukobu three-color punch seems quite wide.
Could it be that Grass-only types are incredibly weak…?
>>74
Takeshi and Kasumi are strong.
>>74
You need at least the firepower, speed, and move range of a Sceptile to handle it tough.
According to the Johto standards, Ishitubute was about as strong as the starter Pokémon trio.
Is Tatsu no good?
>>79
Evolution is troublesome.
I don’t remember the range of the level move, but it’s completed quickly and is focused on CS, so it’s Gengar.
>>75
Kirikizan evolves at level 52.
No Yuggles up to here.
>>83
I don’t want to travel with Komoru.
>>85
That’s Tatsubay!
>>83
It’s painful that evolution is slow.
The thread of connection! Help me!
Intermediate evolution around level 20.
I want the final evolution by level 40.
>>89
There are quite a few that fit this!
I think the Konyo monkey is quite good right now.
It’s not a level evolution, but the conditions aren’t too strict, right?
The future is promising!!!
I only have confidence!!!!
>>91
It seems like you might evolve to the point where you could clear the game, huh…
It’s interesting that evolution is slow, so it doesn’t easily lead to being okay with a 600 base stat total.
>>92
If the 600 family has a decent intermediate evolution and can get past the early game, it seems like it can manage somehow.
If you can obtain the Dragon’s Breath early, you’ll have no trouble in the beginning.
There was an anime about a boy and a monkey from this world.
That’s good, isn’t it?
Garbodor
Isn’t Machop pretty good?
I have an A80.
>>95
Evolution of Machamp
Is that really okay for you guys in the communication evolution faction?!
Machoke is a first evolution, right?
>>99
My ghost also evolved once.
I thought a flying type would be good, but there are quite a few rock gyms early on…
How about Warubiar?
Isn’t it better to stop the system called communication evolution?
>>103
Usually, it’s easy to do because I’m playing with friends.
That aside, I feel resistance to letting go of a partner that I raised halfway, and it makes me wonder if it’s okay that exchanging and evolving them among friends, then returning them to their original form, has become the norm in this system.
>>110
You suddenly stab me, don’t you?
>>103
It is said that there was a scam involving shiny Milotic.
Nyoromo → Nyorozu → Nyorobon, isn’t that pretty great?
>>104
Self-taught martial arts, huh…
Rentlarmuland is the honor student type that has been around since the beginning.
Crobat
The reason is because it’s cute.
“Only leveling up allows for evolution, and the evolution isn’t too slow, and the pre-evolved state isn’t too weak.”
When it comes to those who can get by with just level moves and hidden moves, they are really limited.
Lurage
The early top student might be Ampharos.
1 million experience points or 1.05 million experience points
If you are going to evolve, isn’t the pre-evolution too weak and the evolution level too far away?
Has firepower and a certain level of speed.
It’s not a communication evolution or a stone evolution.
If you narrow down the conditions this much, it seems like there would only be the starter Pokémon left.
>>115
(Usually, if you narrow down the conditions like that, it might make you come off as unpleasant, so it’s better not to do it.)
When I think about traveling, I naturally want to capture various things while doing it, so I might not like having to focus too much on raising just one thing.
If it’s an electric honors student, it’s Dendrance, right?
>>119
Coming out a bit late.
That’s not the second evolution.
Mukkuru has actually been mentioned twice at the beginning of this thread, but it’s really strong.
What level do you have to be to learn that “Tsubasa de Utsu” (a power 60 same-type move)?
I don’t understand 1 million experience points…
Let’s thank the professor for choosing three easy-to-use Pokémon that are rewarding to raise from the beginning.
>>124
Give me everything.
>>127
I was moved by the Pikachu edition.
>>128
I can’t raise it…
>>127
I only prepared one for each person.
The only Pokémon for the fourth person who overslept is this troublemaker.
>>127
If a nameless person has a child who wants to have a cat, a dog, and a hamster, you would probably give them one first and see how it goes, right?
>>132
Not even one will be given.
It’s all mine.
Monster with 1.5 times experience points received from a friend.
But what I’ve been thinking while playing the recent main story is that if the final evolution happens at level 36, isn’t the last evolution really quick?
I have the impression that people tend to final-evolve before collecting even half of the badges.
It seems like 45 would be just right.
If everything is usable, it becomes dull in a way.
Sometimes I want to break from tradition and be allowed to choose something other than grass, flames, or water.
>>134
Let’s play Pikachu and Eevee!
If we’re not talking about gaming performance, then those who can fly will definitely stand out more than others just for that reason.
If I get everything, that alone will fill half of what I have.
Since it gets boring with all the pigs, the three great families can have up to two.
>>137
I thought it was terrible that only the second one gets a Mega Stone as a form of salvage.
Including the use of rivals, the supplemental slot gives the impression of obtaining Eevee in the middle of the game.
Espers seem convenient, but I wonder if they are difficult to handle.
>>140
Stuck with a low-ranking evil Pokémon of an evil organization.
Anything is fine, but you know…
I hope the type balance of the Pokémon that appear on the way is good.
Grass and water Pokémon are easily obtainable in the early game and don’t have a sense of prestige, so I want to be able to choose from electric, fire, or psychic types instead.
A Kecleon that inherited a three-color punch up to RS seems strong.
But that’s unfair.
In areas where electricity isn’t properly balanced, there are likely to be enemies that can be quite challenging.
I want to ride on Flygon.
Where’s Mankey?
>>150
Personally, I think it’s good, but it takes a bit too long to become an Oko-Rizaru.
It seems like it will be unstoppable from there on.
Warubiaru has intimidation and is easy to use, so it’s just right.
>>151
You’re only looking at the offensive side.
There are 6 weaknesses.
>>165
Muskana has seven weaknesses, you know?
Walbiarl has overall excellent status.
Thinking about life in the world of the story makes it really complicated…
Food expenses and ecology
When it comes to travel, if the species stats are high-speed attackers and have decent moves, they can still excel even with low total stats.
>>156
Even in the space of Pichu, let alone in the space of Pikachu, it’s too weak…
If the partner’s stats from Pikachu and Eevee can also use partner moves, then they would be strong.
>>163
Please give me an electric ball.
Mukkuru
Link
Yotely
Cocogara
Meguroko
Among what was mentioned in the thread, these are the ones that seem appropriate.
>>157
I had a Luxray in my journey through Diamond and Pearl, but its moves were too weak, so it wasn’t strong at all.
>>170
The physics of electricity was so lacking that it would have dealt more damage if I had just used thunder or something.
>>170
I only remember struggling to chew it thoroughly.
In the early stages, there are usually many Normal and Bug types, so I want to avoid being at a disadvantage there.
>>158
In the early leveling of Red, Green, and Blue, Charmander is too comfortable and evolves into Charmeleon.
DraMeshiya… is too tough until it fully grows, huh…
The bug-catching boy says something like, “I just caught this Pokémon! Go!” and the fisherman has a monster ball attached to the end like a lure (there are those with a lineup of six Magikarp that they likely caught this way), and honestly, I think there’s quite a bit of sophistry in the idea of “It’s dangerous, so you shouldn’t go into the grass without a Pokémon!”
>>160
As long as I have Pokémon, I can counter even those worst-case scenarios, but if I’m unarmed, I’ll be directly attacked and it’s over, so Pokémon are necessary.
>>168
Response from ” ” from Hisui.
If only evolution could be handled, Polygon would be the strongest.
I hope it’s a place where electricity doesn’t come out of the ground rock.
Pikachu really needs this much support in Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee, doesn’t it?
I remember that Daigo’s Beldum in ORAS was easy to use because it had decent initial moves and an experience points bonus.
The Co-link type is so slow that you have to fight with Spark until it learns Wild Bolt, so I think that’s about it…
Isn’t Ruriri tough in the early game?
>>171
A base stat of 190 will make first-time viewers give up.
>>171
Isn’t it good that Marill and Marillou are early?
In fact, it starts with Ruriri in SV.
Isn’t Kentaros good?
>>173
Evolve!
>>178
Of course it’s no good.
Even at this point, it has specs comparable to the final of the three greats.
If it weren’t for the evolution of communication, it would be the Gastly family.
In the early game, there is floatation, immunity to three types, and hypnosis is also useful.
>>174
The attack move “Surprise” is just ordinary.
Are you planning to operate it with a curse?
Rento is excellent when it’s jade, though…
I realized with Hisui that as long as the Pokémon are sent out and the trainer escapes far away, they are safe.
Rentler probably had a lot of trainers who looked cool and joined parties, but…
>>177
How long is this guy going to keep fighting with Spark?
Where’s Mokoko?
It feels a bit uneasy until it evolves into Ampharos.
When I think about it this way, it seems like strong characters evolve slowly, and I feel like the game balance in Pokémon is well thought out.
>>182
I think they’re intentionally making it difficult to train the 600 species.
Even if I have friends who are evolving in communication, during the scenario, I’m like “Whoa! I’ll advance by myself!” and there are differences in progress as individuals, and I also worry about spoilers.
If there are Kentauros, the flamingos will kick everything down, so it’s no good.
I think it’s definitely Nidoran♂.
It is relatively strong from the beginning with moves like the roundhouse kick and double kick.
It’s also quick to evolve; you can become a Nidoking right away, and it’s like a department store of moves, so there aren’t many opponents you can’t defeat.
Travel parties don’t really care much about the number of weaknesses…
Indeed, types like Rock-type Pokémon, such as Geodude, are extremely strong in battles.
At this point, Gose has a Special Attack of 100, but its moves are just too terrible.
The intimidation is excellent in terms of performance, but when it comes to traveling, the tempo is too bad, so I’m unsure whether to give it a positive rating.
In travel, unfavorable opponents anticipate exchanges, so it’s enough to only focus on the offensive side…
If communication evolves, then Polygon.
I traveled without communicating with Sub at VC Bank, trying to save on machines.
Rarecoil was really strong with Electric Shock all along.
Polygon… the evolution requirements are just too bad.
It would be nice to have a trio that can occasionally choose from bug, fighting, or dark types…
No Himemura up to this point.
>>200
I can’t evolve into Gachiguma!
Since you can achieve a rock-paper-scissors dynamic with fighting and flying types, I wonder if they might boldly change from the usual three types in side stories or something.
In the case of red and green, Sleeper had a good introduction timing and could learn Hypnosis and Psychic on its own, and at that time, it was a very strong Psychic type, so I was using it as a main force normally.
Now it has become too much associated with a perverted image…
In a travel party, I think it’s okay not to worry too much about weaknesses and just act before getting acted upon.
>>204
Sometimes there are series where the enemies are strong like in SM.
After clearing, I did a communication evolution festival with friends, but I don’t remember using communication evolution during the story at all.
The limitation of evolving twice is quite difficult.