
It was too soon for him to claim the title of emperor.
In reality, if someone says that the Han emperors were trash, it’s true, but they still held some prestige.
I mean, I endured when I was stopped once by my subordinates, so why…
>>1
This ended the relationship with my ally Sun Ce, and the campaign against Yuan Shu has begun, so it truly was a bad move.
I wonder if things would have been different if we had welcomed Sun Ce as a retainer at the crossroads. Imagining that makes me really want the talents of the Sun family.
If Cao Cao had just secured the emperor and presented a seal, couldn’t he have been made the head of the Yuan family?
Even if Yuan Shu claims not to engage in tyranny or usurpation, if he goes that far, he just becomes a completely different person…
In the world of the narrative, it would have been fine to return it to the Seal Emperor…
Even like this, Yuan Shu was quite a force for a time…
>>5
Despite causing a lot of chaos and making many enemies, it lasted quite a long time.
I love the grandpa who says it’s absolutely not okay to call yourself an emperor in Slurkin’s thread!
It ended with a face that said “Oh, how presumptuous…”
It was no good for Lu Bu, Liu Bei, Cao Cao, and Sun Ce to gather against the thread’s image in the game.
>>7
There is a house here that has quite a bit of responsibility!
It’s not about whether 〇〇 was alive or not; we need to fundamentally reassess Yuan Shu’s political policies and character.
Just become a different person.
>>8
Even if I say that you can’t become emperor without changing your personality, you probably won’t listen anyway…
Even Dong Zhuo was a chancellor.
First, we need to quickly crush Yuan Shao and unify the Yuan family, or else we might just be taken advantage of.
The timing for claiming the title of emperor of Shu and Wu was properly considered after Cao Pi’s usurpation.
If I take down Yuan Shao quite early and get the Three Lords on my side… then again, I might not be able to stop Dong Zhuo this time…
I like how the behavior after the first person changed to “I” feels like it’s all broken…
>>14
I died in the game after losing…
The stamp is an original performance, so even if you change the way you handle it, the route doesn’t change.
Why did you take the title of emperor when you don’t have it?! And why did you give food to the Song family?!
Rokan-chuu (Did Yuan Shu suddenly declare himself emperor…? I’ll be mad that Sun Jian passed the imperial seal…)
>>17
It gives the impression that the Arhats are filling in gaps like, “Well, if it’s this kind of development, it would be strange not to have something like this…”
>>27
Zhang Fei getting drunk and then being taken down by Lu Bu is also an original twist.
But that guy was definitely drinking, and I was pushed in with firm trust.
If we had firmly allied with Lu Bu and quickly taken care of Cao Cao…
I thought that, but at the point where you’re predicting Lu Bu’s actions and incorporating them into your strategy, it’s already half fallen apart.
There are quite a few stories about how much Sun Ce was cherished, so he probably valued him both as a public figure and as a private person.
Because I showed my weakness, I was eaten.
It seems that Yuan Shao is a bigger figure than Yuan Shu.
When considering figures like Yuan Shao, Cao Cao, and Liu Bei in an “if” scenario, it tends to revolve around luck, lifespan, and talent, but this guy…
Little Emperor, why did you have to die in a place like that…?
If I’m going to change this guy’s destiny, I need to be reincarnated as his childhood friend from the time he was pretending to be a young warrior and then start steering him in the right direction from there…
Zhou Yu and Lu Su have seen through it, you know.
It’s difficult to change the personalities of Yuan Shu and Liu Biao to the level of different people.
Honestly, I think it’s easier to imagine a scenario where I can conquer the world than with Liu Bei…
It feels a bit crazy like a fictional story when you obtain the imperial seal, but the worst part is that historical events are even more ridiculous.
The scene of Bashoku climbing the mountain also sets up a flag where Bashoku is worried about being talked about behind his back.
It’s those guys who make inconsistent moves that are the problem!
>>32
As a historical creation, it is an attitude to be emulated, Rakan Chu…
>>45
I can’t handle this double assassination with arrows from parent and child, so I’ll serve up a sage dish!
When looking at Liu Biao as a story, he gives off a strong “who is this guy?” vibe, but he isn’t talked about as much as Yuan Shu, probably because of the scale of their respective powers.
Liu Biao doesn’t claim the title of emperor!
Kongming’s cold treatment of Wei Yan is also based on a reverse calculation from the final developments…
I mean, it feels like there’s an atmosphere of not really wanting to touch on Yuan Shu… and his end is kind of vague, right?
>>37
Somehow… even in hate creations, I wouldn’t go this far in how to die…
>>37
As you can tell from the honey drop, it wasn’t a flashy death that happened.
It is true that the Han had effectively ended, but it is not sane to claim the title while there is still Emperor Xian.
Even with today’s perspective, suddenly claiming to be an emperor is incomprehensible, and there must have been quite a few people who were really angry about it back then.
I thought there would be more top deaths than this…
Both Dong Zhuo and Cao Cao, who made the emperor a puppet, have also gathered quite a bit of hate.
At the general level, it seems that illnesses and injuries tend to cause them to fade out.
If Sun Jian had not accidentally died, there might have been a chance…
Normally, the leader would retreat or surrender before reaching a situation where they are defeated in battle.
>>47
There’s no way the top would do a one-on-one duel!
>>49
Lü Bu… Sun Ce…
Cause of death: stray arrow
There are quite a few.
>>51
Naval battles are particularly common, aren’t they?
If you can’t win by fighting normally, then it’s not unusual to plot an assassination.
It is rare to succeed for two generations…
The little overlord has become like a compliment in Musou.
>>54
Dong Zhuo, who claims to be the Great Overlord.
>>54
In creations like Musou, it is generally treated as a plus.
I think it’s better since it’s actually creative.
I, myself, used to be commonly used in the past, but it was made the first-person pronoun for the emperor by Emperor Qin.
If only I could have obtained Zhou Yu and Lu Su…
>>57
No way.
Betting everything on the grandsons.
I can’t drink honey and it’s infuriating.
An “if” scenario titled “Blue Sky Highway” that strives to secure human resources and avoid destruction.
If I’m not seen as someone worth betting on, there’s nothing I can do.
There’s actually such an annoying noble character in the Three Kingdoms story for beginners… I couldn’t help but laugh at the reaction of “Is this already mild?!”
China is too big, so let’s break it up and manage it that way.
>>64
So, here it is, the Five Barbarians and Sixteen Kingdoms. Thank you!
>>67
Extreme!
While gaining the support of Sun Ce, they pincer attacked Cao Cao together with Yuan Shao.
It seems like we have no choice but to go with the flow and figure it out.
The honey uncle is really making enemies left and right, so I seriously don’t understand.
It’s too expansive, but if you claim to be a successor of the Qin or Han dynasties, you need to unify in order to have legitimacy…
Did the thread image incorporate the Son family once, is that an original from the game? Or is it the real deal?
>>71
It’s true that they took in the Sun family, or rather, after Sun Jian died, they became like guardians.
But I can escape immediately.
>>75
Quick decision-making.
>>71
The Song family is fundamentally aligned with the Yuan Shu faction.
A general who engages in one-on-one battles may be a total fool, but it’s extremely appealing in terms of creativity.
Even if small, the conqueror is cool.
It looks like a compliment.
Petit Xiang Yu!
A rare ugly person among the collection of handsome individuals in origins.
Lü Bu must be seen as exceptional even by his contemporaries, not comparable to someone like Xiao Li Guang or Xiao Fei Jiang.
Even if you become a handsome guy, they’ll just say the only good thing about you is your face…
>>78
There are a certain number of people who like that sort of thing.
The size of the nose and the beard make it perfectly ugly, don’t you think?
Even if he’s good-looking, his behavior is just unbearable…
I’m feeling lonely because Zhang Jiao has become handsome.
Aside from the fact that Sun Ce had ambition, it seems they also judged that it would end under this guy…
>>82
Historical fact: Sun Ce is actually stopping people by saying “Come on, just stop the emperor stuff!!”
Won’t you stop? Then, goodbye…
>>88
There are some complaints about the poor treatment, but I somehow managed to maintain the relationship out of gratitude for the help I’ve received… Even after gaining some level of power, I’m still returning troops.
It’s sad that even though it has its own unique graphics, I can’t form a bond with it.
Since there is no female presence in historical facts regarding characters like Zhong Hui, they were relatively popular…
>>87
Indeed, that guy is an example of a high-capability (even considering connections, his position is impressive) scumbag…
When you think about it, is Houzei also quite popular among girls?
It’s fine that the Han is on the decline, but why are you suddenly calling yourself an emperor!?
>>90
Since I have the imperial seal, I’ll introduce myself…
>>92
In historical fact, I don’t even have it…
>>95
It looks foolish.
>>90
Because it’s a prestigious family with four generations of three public officials.
I should be the emperor instead of the likes of the deposed Emperor Xian, who fled after being conquered by the bandits of Xiliang!
It’s troubling that despite being warned, you voluntarily choose the path to ruin.
Who will the imperial seal pass to after this?
>>93
Yuan Shu → Yuan Shao → Cao Cao flow.
No lineage…
I have no strength…
There is no talent…
There is no virtue…
I may be looked down upon because I lost, but in reality, I think I’ve been more fulfilled… My lineage is actually this main stream.
>>94
Yes
You have bloodlines! The talent is… Kirei-san…?
But you know, since Liu Yu and the emperor have become like that, I think it’s true that there is no longer the Mandate of Heaven.
>>99
Well, if we could actually show our strength, there would be guys who would fall.
I love this stage because the weak enemies keep spawning forever.
The Yuan family seems to be a prestigious family, but I don’t know how prestigious they really are.
Is it above the Cao family?
>>101
A family that has held the position of San-kou (the highest office) for four generations in a row.
Not even comparable.
I heard there used to be a route where girls would lose their eye highlights and go into high-grade mode when the imperial seal beam was activated.
I properly returned to Emperor Xian.
Although the Five Barbarians and Sixteen Kingdoms, as well as the Northern and Southern Dynasties, and the Sui and Tang Dynasties were properly inherited, they were lost during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period.
Since then, the dynasty has started using imitation copies.
In terms of bloodline, there is!
If it’s said that it’s strange for someone from the Yuan family to become an emperor, then…
Did it remain until the Tang Dynasty?
It lasted quite a long time.
When I think of Liu, a rocker named Gongsunzan comes to mind.
It was bad luck that the locusts (the insects) came in such a targeted way.
>>110
“Hō (the person) only makes sense in specific videos!”
The imperial seal of the Northern Yuan was obtained when the Later Jin conquered it and was used to legitimize their conquest of China.
>>114
It’s common for a conquering dynasty to hold titles of kings from various ethnic groups.
Qing was the Khan of Manchuria, the Great Khan of Mongolia, and the Emperor of China.
Cao Cao survived well even when everyone around him was an enemy.
There are quite a few people who were active elsewhere after the downfall under Yuan Shao.
Yuan Shu’s attitude is as if he’s been part of Sun Wu from the very beginning, which only serves to heighten the impression of his lack of talent.
>>117
I think it’s unavoidable to have former subordinates of the false emperor or engage in career laundering.
>>120
It seems that one reason for the Sun family being able to gather talented individuals is related to this.
In addition, there were probably knowledgeable individuals among the refugees from the central conflicts such as the Yellow Turbans, the Eunuchs, and Dong Zhuo, as well as from Cao Cao’s massacre in Xu Province.
“If only I were stronger, I could have been portrayed in fiction like a dangerous ambitious person who even dares to claim the title of emperor…”
On the other hand, Dong Zhuo has a certain charm as a dangerous man from that side.
Yuan Shu… Yuan Shu, huh…
>>121
Dong Zhuo fought vigorously in Liangzhou during the first half of his life.
There are episodes where Yuan Shu tries to abandon Sun Jian after a fight, and it’s mostly things like that…
It reminds me of a manga where a self-proclaimed dictator calling himself “Little Dong Zhuo” appears, even though it’s unrelated to the thread.
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First of all, there is a tendency to make a black history of how much Sun Ce himself was subordinate to Yuan Shu.
It seems that the main branch of the Song family shared a fate with Yuan Shu, so they probably weren’t as terrible as the impression one gets from historical records.
>>124
It seems that you were kind to the subordinates you liked.
It’s a shame that there’s nothing else to praise.
In every way except for bloodline, he is inferior to Yuan Shao, and no matter how far he goes, he will only ever be a precursor to Yuan Shao.
What is it about suddenly becoming a ruler after fleeing to a safe place…
Isn’t Yuan Shao’s takeover just too smooth?
>>129
Because it’s a prestigious family.
>>129
Liu Bei was like that, and it must have been such an era.
Was there no capable personnel?
>>130
Maybe I escaped…
Considering the scale, it’s impossible that there were no human resources.
I can’t help but think that there were probably quite a few people engaging in career laundering.
How many times are you going to raise the imperial seal?!
…Huh, endless spawning!?
The past of working under a rebel who claimed to be an emperor is inconvenient, and it would also be problematic to appoint someone with such a past.
I can’t help but feel that the past seems to have been quite erased…
>>136
Making the connection with this guy obvious wouldn’t benefit either of us…
It can only be said that I fell behind in everything due to scheming and tactics.
It’s strange that Cao Cao swallowed it all in that desperate position surrounded by enemies on all sides.
I think most of the people with a background that seems like “a person from the countryside who was picked up in Jingzhou” are usually from the Ronda group.
Excluding the imperial family and collateral branches, the prestigious Yong family of Gunong, which produced prominent figures like the Yuan family of Ruanan.
If the existing dynasty is almost dead, then it’s a time of chaos, and there is no bloodline or legitimacy, so it will declare independence as a new state and take the title of emperor.
I think it’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it hasn’t really solidified into something that can be called a nation.
>>141
With all the surrounding powers around and no significant power difference to crush anyone unilaterally, if someone were to say, “From today, I am the greatest in the world,” they would just be beaten down.
If Hontai gets his hands on the imperial seal of the Northern Yuan, he could become the emperor of China, of course…
I want to drink a beverage with honey in it, but!? I like how it’s embarrassing to die after saying that.
At the point where even a mere figurehead is being supported, claiming the title of emperor gives them a justification, so it’s not good.
If a manga with the protagonist becomes popular, it might be re-evaluated.
>>145
No matter how hard I try, it doesn’t seem like I can make myself look cool…
>>145
Shall we do it, Yuan Shu reincarnation…
When you mention it, there aren’t many people who stand out like those who were once under Yuan Shu, but I wonder if there are any who have erased their past…
There was a time when I had someone like Lu Su as a subordinate.
>>148
Instantly cut off…
>>148
“Sun Quan! Let’s become Emperor!”
>>167
It’s scary that Yuan Shu is saying this to Sun Quan!
It probably means that they were recognizing Sun Quan’s talents, but it’s still frightening!
>>173
He’s a madman, isn’t he…?
There are people who seriously evaluate it as if it were someone who was genuinely striving in the tumultuous times, even though it’s extremely unlucky for hardcore historical enthusiasts…
A manga where the protagonist accumulates a lot of hate, huh…
If Yuan Shao is reborn, it might become popular, but with Yuan Shu, well…
>>153
I hope you become a great ruler and create a nation in the Kōtō region.
Is there a route for Yuan Shu to win? I mean, if we go by the usual power dynamics, he should normally win.
>>154
Domestic affairs are terrible…
It’s someone who fell on their own even though their starting point was much higher than Cao Cao, Sun Quan, and Liu Bei.
This guy’s behavior is so unpredictable.
If I did it in my creation, they might say it’s an original anime development?
After using all the strategies exhaustively, I managed to succeed in small schemes like trading the imperial seal with 3,000 troops.
The reason it didn’t work out is simply because Liu Biao, the strategies, and Cao Cao did it better than that.
>>160
You can form alliances with various local lords based on mutual interests.
Each one is being individually defeated by Cao Cao, Yuan Shao, and others…
It gives the impression that capable talent has cut ties and fled, so things must have been really bad.
The winner of the actual Three Kingdoms period, Cao Cao.
Yuan Shao, who cannot win no matter what unless the opponent self-destructs.
Yuan Shu, who cannot rise above due to his family background.
So if I hadn’t entered monkey emperor mode, I would have won for sure.
The age of companionship will not come, will it?
Cao Cao is eliminating most of Yuan Shu’s talents without taking any of them.
Well, there’s also the treatment as a condemned criminal.
In a normal sequence, the next after the Han Dynasty would be the Yuan family.
Well, you know…
>>169
Maybe it was no good because I was exhausted from all the things related to Dong Zhuo.
A decent person is probably running away at the point when they try to claim the title of emperor.
At one point, Gongsun Zan, Tao Qian, and Lu Bu were aligned with Yuan Shu, so if they had coordinated well with each other, there would have been enough room to sufficiently oppose Cao Cao and Yuan Shao.
Maybe it would have been better to go all the way and just kill the current emperor since I’m going to be the emperor anyway.
Isn’t Mr. Roshuku’s foresight too sharp?
Every time Lu Su calls out “Emperor! Emperor!” there’s a feeling that Sun Quan is laughing it off.
Even so, there are no talented people in Nanyo.
Kongming and Wei Yan, perhaps…?
>>179
Jiang Wan Liao Li, perhaps.
The impression is that the civil servant is just mediocre.
Also, Samaka.
Children are able to live their full lifespan.
It feels like Liu Biao has a good way with words and is skilled at incorporating the struggling enemy forces.
Yuan Shu → Liu Biao → Surrender and follow Cao Cao or Liu Bei.
There seem to be a lot of people who are like that.
>>177
It’s terrible that they feel an unmatched sense of power.
If Yuan Shao had properly designated a successor and defeated Cao Cao, he could have easily taken control of the world…
Isn’t it crazy to tell Sun Quan to become emperor when there’s an example like Yuan Shu? I said that to Lu Xu.
There’s no way that Sun Quan and Yuan Shu are the same! I’m going to get killed instantly for saying that.
If the Five Barbarians and Sixteen Kingdoms had collapsed more, everyone would relatively become an emperor, so if the thread image was born a bit later…
If Liu Xun were under Yuan Shu, he seemed like he could become a winner… but he couldn’t.
Also, Liu Ye played the role of Liu Xun’s strategist.
Liu Ye had interactions with Lu Shu before following Liu Xun.
If Sun Quan claims the title of emperor while Emperor Xian is still around, it could lead to both Cao Cao and Liu Bei turning against him.
Shall we do it…
Blue Sky Highway
>>192
The blue sky is dead…
Luo Shu might just be an anti-Han dynasty figure.
It might be an intention to treat it with that level of seriousness.
Don’t face Lu Bu head-on…
I will behead Xu You in advance.