
The balance is bad. By the way, you and the brave hero always seem to conspire together to defeat me, but are you planning to tempt me as well? I’m saying let’s cooperate; isn’t it a bit unfair to have one against three? There are only the three of us who possess the Triforce, so shouldn’t we get along better?
Ganon is just too lacking in cuteness.
The Triforce of Power is too much of a source of chaos…
It’s unfortunate that Ganondorf has to play the villain every time.
Unlike Bowser, it lacks cuteness.
Bowser has been around for many years and shows a comedic side, but Ganon doesn’t at all.
The links are mostly different people, so we haven’t really gotten close.
I’ve only seen these guys teaming up in the world line of Smash Bros. Brawl.
>>6
In the basic Zelda world, Ganon is the headquarters of evil, so unless there is a presence of evil greater than Ganon, there is absolutely no reason to ally together…
In a world where Ganon is not the final boss, it’s usually a world where Ganon either doesn’t exist or is sealed away.
>>6
Wasn’t the Smash Bros. series treated as dolls modeled after Nintendo characters, even though they seem like the characters themselves?
I don’t know how it is with anything other than Muji.
Basically, they are different people with the same name within the series.
>>7
Wasn’t Ganon the only one that was the same?
Is the thread discussing something meta?
There’s a sense that the Triforce, which can generally do things on its own, might be a bad thing.
I haven’t seen any developments where Samus and Mother Brain cooperate…
Temptation…
It’s not that there are no enemies to fight alongside Ganon, but rather that when Ganon isn’t around, the final boss is usually someone plotting his resurrection…
When it comes to Ganon, he was the pig-faced demon king, but before I knew it, the old man in the thread became the main character.
>>16
If an old man becomes Ganondorf and transforms into a monster, he becomes Ganon.
I’ve heard that while they are the same person, Ganondorf and Ganon are slightly different.
Basically, it ends up being Ganon’s fault.
There was a time when it was said that Tia Kinganon might become an ally.
>>18
The design of the ancient hero in the mural is bad~
>>18
A melancholy expression is bad~
You intend to be “friendly” with me…!
It’s special that Bowser, Wario, and Dedede can fight while getting along.
>>21
Even though there are times when I cooperate with Bowser and the series progresses, or when it’s a silly mood, we don’t fall into the relaxed friendly image.
The base is that I’m a talented individual who is currently a serious mastermind.
>>21
After all, Dedede is mostly an ally, but that pink round one keeps hitting me!
>>44
Whether it’s an enemy or an ally, if you hit them, something will come out…
>>44
Having a criminal record is quite bad, you know.
But Mario really seems to hate Wario.
Ganon is the same person in all works.
Zelda is a bloodline passed down through generations, while Link is completely a different person (sometimes a descendant).
>>24
Aren’t Zelda and Link the spirits of the past generations as well?
>>121
Zelda is reincarnated as a human by the goddess to protect the land, so her soul does not change, but her memories are reset, which leads to troublesome situations.
The existence of heroes, or Links, is random, so there are worlds where they are forcibly made into adults or do not come into existence, leading to serious problems.
Even in a world where a different great evil emerges without Ganon, if Ganon is present, he will definitely tear the world apart…
I honestly don’t know what I want to do with the Triforce.
>>27
Ganon probably just wants to become the ruler of Hyrule!
>>28
I might have wanted this wind…
>>27
Ever since failing to usurp the Hyrule royal family, you’ve become like a vengeful spirit, haven’t you?
As a fundamental premise, Zelda gives a more serious impression than Mario.
If an external enemy appears that we can’t defeat without cooperating as three people, wouldn’t we cooperate?
>>31
As expected, it’s Sakurai’s original character…
>>31
Even if Hyrule falls, since we haven’t cooperated, it would be difficult for Ganon, who was supposed to become Ganon, to appear. When it happens, if asked whether to bring him out, I think it would end up being treated like Linkle.
Bowser sometimes does cute evil things, but in the world of Zelda, it mostly gives the impression of being half-destroyed.
I understand the dream of wanting to dominate Hyrule, but…
Tearkin Ganondorf had a dream of destroying Hyrule and filling it with monsters, so I couldn’t understand why he wanted to do that.
Ganondorf doesn’t have anything like he loves Bowser’s Princess Peach! Basically, he doesn’t have any humor either.
I think it’s similar to the fact that Ridley doesn’t become an ally in Metroid.
Tears of the Kingdom was surprisingly a hardcore villain, contrary to expectations before its release, which made it interesting due to the gap.
It’s because you mess up the balance first that we surround and hit you!
If something were to attack from another world.
Aren’t the three of them going to fight together hand in hand?
Go, Majora!!
The Triforce of Wisdom and Courage is going out of control! I don’t think we need the Triforce of Power, do we?
>>46
With twin force, the balance breaks down…
I think it will ultimately turn into a three-way struggle with no cooperation, just a third party involved.
I know that when you gather the Triforce, something amazing happens, but does each one have its own individual power?
>>49
Strength, courage, and wisdom.
>>49
It seems that it can boost the owner’s magic power even on its own.
Link mostly fights in a way that doesn’t really rely on magic, so it’s almost meaningless, but…
Uncle Ganon often does better by being sly rather than facing things head-on…
The Mario series and the Zelda series have different scales of conflict and seriousness, so even if you set up the same situation, the developments would be completely different.
The Triforce is just a power, so it’s as if I can stand alongside Zelda and Link as one of the three.
In the first place, it’s impossible for someone driven crazy by the demon lord’s curse, which opposed the goddess, to join forces with those who inhabit land bearing the name of the goddess.
Could it be that Tears of the Kingdom is one of the top-class villains in history?
>>53
As a result of the significant increase in character portrayal, wicked personalities and deeds have been depicted more vividly…
Also, purely incredibly strong.
Cooperation with Gon.
It sounds like a story where Samus collaborates with Ridley.
The power buff is easy to understand and unfair.
There aren’t many places as devastated as the Mushroom Kingdom…
That guy was planning to betray Master Hand in Smash Bros. X too; he has too much ambition.
Rather, it feels like courage has more power than strength, and I can’t help but wonder what the benefit of strength is.
In Hyrule Warriors, Link and Ganon can be on the same team…
It’s the Triforce of Power’s fault for having such a troublesome personality.
If you take ambition away from an uncle, all that’s left is a destructive impulse…
>>64
When the uncle’s heart breaks, a pig appears.
The uncle from Wind Taxi was the first to break.
I haven’t played Wind Waker at all, but wasn’t that Ganon a good guy or something?
>>65
I thought we could win since the hero didn’t appear, but just when I realized there was no way to win because God turned the board upside down, I felt empty. Then I caught a glimpse of the winds of a new era and felt refreshed.
>>65
No… I’m just tired of being made to play the role of the Demon King when there’s absolutely no way I’ll ever win, so I don’t feel like a good person at all.
The scene of being completely worn out is just portrayed in a way that looks a bit cool.
>>65
He is not a good person.
I’m just feeling a bit detached because I’m tired from various things.
I thought the big red-haired guy in Skawo was definitely Ganondorf, but…
If we’re going to cooperate, then the game should be one where the player controls Ganon instead of Link.
When a common enemy appears and we cooperate, it’s the moment to settle things as soon as we defeat them! It feels like it could end up being the usual final boss Ganon.
It’s hard to believe that Bowser and Peach would team up to fight Mario…
Ganon fighting over snacks to that extent…
The Triforce looks kind of evil!
Let’s break something like this.
After all… we have no choice but to confront the threat from outer space…
The Wind Waker’s Ganondorf is quite popular…
I love the Wind Waker timeline that completely severs the ties between Ganon and the Triforce.
>>78
“I like that my grandchildren have cut ties with the gods even more.”
Even if you manage to defeat Link and Zelda, you’ll realize that the gods are waiting in the background, ready to overturn the world itself and reset everything…
First, let’s release something like Mario RPG.
In Wind Waker, it’s nice that Ganon is saved, isn’t it?
In the first place, it was established that Zelda was one of the gods on the admin side, so it makes sense that if there’s a big upheaval, additional gods would come out in a way.
Even the Wind’s Tact is just withered, and it’s still doing its job as the Demon King normally.
The fact that Bowser isn’t completely wiped out, even after causing world-scale incidents, is significant…
Although it’s less frequent than Ganon, that guy is still up to some pretty serious mischief, isn’t he?
It can be said that it’s strange for Bowser to be forgiven for things on the scale of MariGala.
>>86
Fundamentally, it’s precisely because the style isn’t very meticulous about things like chronological settings or the events in the work.
I think there is freedom to play various roles as a character rather than focusing on the storyline.
>>90
I’m doing things like go-kart racing, playing sports, and having parties…
If it were to remain in the pig design, there might have been a route where comedic elements were added during a style that wasn’t too serious.
I think it’s a balanced aspect that Bowser and Mario have a mutual love for each other.
The wind is… blowing…
In this case, it might be amazing how open-hearted Mario and Princess Peach are to even accepting Bowser.
Peaches are gross…
If there’s a dangerous third party, we could temporarily ally ourselves.
Still, it seems like the final boss will really be Ganon.
>>92
Well, I’ve obtained this guy’s power! So it looks like we’ll end up fighting after all.
It seems likely that they will first team up with a third force to make a link.
It seems that for co-op gameplay to truly match the worldview, a common enemy with the momentum to thoroughly destroy the world while sticking to Ganon is necessary.
Ganon would never accept being under the command of any villain, that’s for sure.
The Mario world, while being called a universe, feels like it’s just a familiar local area.
There are things like Rainbow Road just normally.
>>97
Since I’m usually just playing freely as an action game, it feels a bit pointless to think about it seriously.
It’s a world where you transform into mushrooms and flowers.
No matter how large the Mario world becomes, it ultimately can be managed with Mario’s individual abilities…
Bowser has been teaming up since the Super Famicom days, so there’s a difference in experience, right?
If Ganon had done it around that time, it might have been different.
>>100
Should they have released a Zelda Kart or Zelda Party series…?
It would be nice to have a work where Ganon marries Zelda.
Even without collaborating, Link has the power and wisdom to handle the situation.
Was Ganon already gone from this world when the Nuul occurred?
>>104
Since Ganon was borrowed… For that reason, even if his name was mentioned, no one reacted, so it must have been from a considerably ancient time.
It’s someone who seriously hates arrogant people other than themselves.
Considering what Bowser did in SMB, it’s strange that he’s being treated relatively kindly by Peach now.
There is no other way to say that the settings changed with the world.
I think Bowser’s image became a turning point with RPGs.
I have a bad feeling that wisdom could go out of control.
If you look at the users of borrowed wisdom, you can somewhat understand.
>>110
That is just like the barbarian; it’s just the players who are strange…
>>111
If I could kill Peach, I could win completely, but I can’t because I love her. Poor Bowser…
>>111
As long as Princess Peach breaks the spell, there are effectively zero victims, so it’s safe.
Basically, the wisdom of good and the power of evil.
In other words, wouldn’t it be good to move in the direction of tempting the person in charge of the Courage Tiger?
Speaking of which, Ganon doesn’t really take an approach to ally with Courage-type characters.
Ganon probably can’t get along with Zelda if he can’t even be friends with Link…
If anything, in the second game of the series, Donkey Kong Jr., Mario is the enemy…
The Triforce of Wisdom basically does nothing.
I thought it would finally work under the name “borrowed wisdom,” but it does nothing.
Ganon is often portrayed not so much as someone whose plans for world domination need to be stopped, but rather as a character whose world Link saves after the conquest, so there’s really no room for leniency.
I mean, the Triforce of Power has always been held by Ganon, and the Triforce of Wisdom and Courage are always held by the reincarnated Link, so they’re constantly monopolized, right?
When I Googled “the four swords” I realized that Guhun was the final boss, and I had forgotten about Ganondorf because of the pig form Ganondorf…
Why is Ganon given the Triforce of Power?
>>125
It must be because Ganon worked hard.
>>125
The Triforce of Power is suitable for anyone strong…
>>127
Let’s break this thing!
>>130
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>>125
If it’s a strong person, anyone is fine, so there are also patterns where they normally sway towards Link and complete Link or Talai and Force.
Even though Dr. Wily is forgiven every time in Mega Man, Sigma gets destroyed every time… he just keeps coming back.
>>128
Muji is a world where the scale of each uproar is large, but the relationship between humans and robots, as well as civilization, can thrive, making it a relatively relaxed place.
X has a different style, as the situation with the numbering is heading in a bad direction in a bleak and serious world.
I’m not losing!
What you are doing now is pointless. In the past, heroes have defeated the Demon King in Hyrule many times. It seemed like they defeated him. However, the Demon King always revives. In other words, the heroes are defeated every time. The power of the demon-slaying sword is only of that level!!
>>131
Source of disruption, harassment, and chaos.
>>131
bragging about being defeated no matter how many times I come back…
In the world of borrowed wisdom, even though the name has never been mentioned, everyone thinks that the one who went to Nuur is the Triforce of Power, to that extent of trust.
Before the release of Tiarakin, there was a theory about co-opting with Ganon, spurred by the red-haired mural and the ennui expression.
When I opened the lid, it was as evil as usual, but the resolution of the story had increased, making it even more wicked than before.
Bowser has a history of being portrayed comically since the era of animated films during the Famicom days.
There are subtly proud things that I possess, but when I’m cornered or a chance comes rolling in, I can easily throw them away, so my trustworthiness is really questionable.
Donkey and K. Rool are rarely mentioned in discussions about these kinds of cooperative route fantasies.
>>140
There is only one work featuring Kuroor.
>>141
???
I wonder how this chain will come to an end.
“I prefer beings that drown in their own power and self-destruct~❤)”
How many times has Ganondorf lost?
Because Bowser is also cozy with others, it sometimes becomes a topic of discussion when he does something malicious.
Basically, the staff at Rare say that Captain Krull and Baron Krull are all the same crocodile.
I can’t shake off the feeling that Baron is just too different, right?
I don’t think it’s in the position of a familiar boss at the level of Bowser or Ganon.
The Mario world has a parallel or cyclical nature, so whether we team up with Bowser or have a party, there are no lasting consequences.
It would be quite a challenge to shake Ganon.
Don’t forget 64 Kuruuru.
Eggman gives the impression of teaming up at the end every time, but in reality, he is an enemy much more often until the end.
I came! An unknown villain, Zanto!
Even borrowed final bosses prepare countermeasures, so it’s actually quite considerate.
It seems like someone related to the end, but no one tells me if they are really related.
Since teaming up, it feels like Bowser has gained some charm, and Bowser has his own troubles.
However, I believe that not having charm means that unlike Bowser or Dedede, I am not treated as gay, which shows that I have proper standing.
If the Triforce was assembled on this side, we would have no enemies, but if we lost three pieces instead, it seems like we wouldn’t be able to win even if we teamed up.
If one or two pieces are taken away, it doesn’t give us a reason to cooperate, and it’s difficult.
When Bowser is properly playing the role of the evil boss, he actually tends to mess things up more than Ganondorf.
By the way,
It’s funny to see Ganon preparing a tea set and brewing tea while saying things like that.
Ganondorf and Ridley are 100% serious.
The beaming smile from the melancholic warrior figure on the official site seems like it could burn a child’s brain…
It’s not about punishing, it’s about defeating.
This must also be the doing of ○○, so we cannot introduce the appearance of the mastermind.
Ridley has a proper rivalry and is receiving adequate treatment for it.
I don’t think they even compare to Bowser and Ganon since they’re not really the villains throughout the whole series.
>>164
In terms of degree of connection, it’s on a different level compared to Bowser, Ganondorf, or King Dedede; it’s a slightly different position, isn’t it?
Bowser has some affection for his son and his subordinates.
Uncle Ganon doesn’t really have much compassion for his subordinates… barely shows any towards Twinrova at best.
The reason Ganon isn’t the boss is either because he is sealed away or defeated.
In that case, it’s because they are trying to resurrect or unseal, or they might appear transforming into Ganon or something similar, so I’ve never really seen that.
Why was it cut from the Gerudo in Tears of the Kingdom?
It’s one thing if it’s a battle between people, but with monsters everywhere, that’s just too much, right?
>>167
Because it also attacked Gerudo.
Well, if we’re talking about the series’ arch-nemesis in Metroid, it’s probably X…
Considering the previous work, we were riding divine beasts, so isn’t Gerudo treated as a traitor?
It’s just like when the coup was successful at Tokioka.
Even if you gain uncle power, you won’t relocate the Gerudo people to the castle town or treat them well, right?
>>172
That would give Ganon legitimacy.
Regardless of what’s in my heart, I will end up fighting for my own people.
From the perspective of the Gerudo tribe, they are really annoyed because they are attacked by monsters and face a common enemy from Hyrule within their own clan.
>>159
It seems like my sexual orientation has become strange because I was born in a country full of women.
Speaking of which, Ganon’s son doesn’t actually appear that much, huh?
If it were to happen, would it become my daughter?
It’s like something out of Studio Ghibli, where Bowser is the villain trying to kidnap the woman he loves and win her over.
Uncle Ganon is simply the enemy.
Ganondorf’s child is too concerned about their wife…
I might have an ordinary Gerudo person’s niece, but it’s nothing special.
Ganon is ultimately nothing but self-centered.
I think I’ll use it normally even if my son comes out.
Rather, who is Ganondorf’s father?
>>180
It’s probably just that I’ve gained a physical body as a reincarnation.
I think any kind of seed is fine.
I kind of want to see Ganondorf, head over heels for Zelda, proposing to her.
I wonder if no Gerudo boys are born other than Ganon?
The Gerudo tribe is all messed up because Ganon and the demon king-related elements are incorporated into the world’s system.
Unless a male child born once every hundred years becomes Ganondorf, Hylian women will not give birth, so if they do not continue to take husbands from Hylian men, they will eventually perish.
If I were the king of Hyrule, I would go and kill any male who was born in the Gerudo tribe the moment they are born.
Was it fan fiction that after Ganon, the Gerudo tribe has been killing any boys they give birth to…?
>>185
It seems like there are also characters like a desert drag queen on a hundred-year cycle or a Gerudo-like man who resembles Ganon, so they might quietly be driven out.
In Breath of the Wild, the setting established that no males have been born to the Gerudo tribe since the arrival of Ganon.
It feels like I’ve already killed my parents before someone tells me to stop with this foolishness of world domination!
Unless the content becomes completely different, like being reincarnated as Ganon, co-op play is difficult.
The goals will never align.
“Are you planning to tempt me or something? That line is just too funny.”
The curse of the End Uncle, you see.
I can’t imagine Ganon acting in a comical way at all.
He is consistently a serious demon lord, after all.
>>194
It’s about the thread image and the original smile, I guess.
The education of Ko Take, Ko Ume, and Ko Matsu was bad.
The goddess of strength, just a ditzy otter.
I learned from Dragon Quest Builders that a villain of this type can increase their likability by showcasing their youthful innocence from their childhood through time jumps and interactions with the protagonist.
Even if Ganon dies, some kind of power becomes the enemy…