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[Mobile Suit Gundam] Zegan!? It’s so ridiculous that only Camille doesn’t get a new machine.

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Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:19Yeahx2

Amuro sometimes switches to the Hi-Nu as a higher tier mobile suit that replaces the Nu Gundam, depending on the game.
It’s sad that Camille has to fight all the way to the end without any special powers like that…

1: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:21Yeahx3

In the past, it used to be a switch from the mkⅡ start to the Z from Super…

2: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:22Yeahx42

Zegan!?

4: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:25Yeahx12

>>2It’s as if I’m saying I won’t even watch the new Gundam…

6: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:27Yeahx1

>>4I think there is something here, but it’s true that if it’s just a discussion about Gundam, it would be understood without needing to call it that.

3: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:23Yeahx3

In the context of just talking about Gundam, it’s okay not to add “Gun” because it’s understandable.

5: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:25Yeahx3

I wonder how many works can use ZⅡ.

7: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:27Yeahx3

Zegan!?

8: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:28

Isn’t it a trap that Z Gundam’s strongest techniques like the Hyper Beam Saber and Wave Rider Charge don’t rely on shooting?

9: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:29Yeahx1

There was certainly α and Impact, ZⅡ.

10: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:29

I’m not doing it on purpose to get attention; it’s about New Gun and Zee Gun.

13: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:32

>>10Of course.

11: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:30

However, do you want Camille to fight even more after the main Z series?

17: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:36

>>11In Super Robot Wars, there are many support personnel, and while Rozamia might die, Fou generally survives, so they are not as cornered as in the original work.

19: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:39

>>17Well, Fou tends to die quite a bit.

12: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:31Yeahx10

Don’t say “New Gun” when speaking verbally.
I won’t make it a written matter.

14: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:32Yeahx2

>>12Clarity really does exist.
It’s just that there’s a bit of danger in the pronunciation, isn’t there?

21: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:40

>>12If it’s text, ν is fine too.

23: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:41Yeahx3

>>21V!

15: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:33

(Jigan)

16: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:36Yeahx7

>>15No matter how painful it is, I will see it through.

18: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:36

I saw Sha too a little while ago.

20: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:39

I think it’s about time to prepare enhancements for Z as a what-if scenario where Camille was active during the Char’s Counterattack era in games like G Generation.
But I feel like I’ll definitely get complaints, so maybe it’s better to just not do it after all.

22: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:41

>>20The current G Generation, or rather in the past ten years or so, has stopped releasing original content that extends the original series.

24: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:41

There was a game in Super Robot Wars that had a forced withdrawal.
I thought it wasn’t necessary to recreate it to that extent…

25: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:42

>>24It feels like leaving when an event is triggered, rather than being forced.

26: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:42

A life hack that intentionally includes typos and strange neologisms to prompt responses and gain initial engagement!

27: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:43

In that case, I’d like a few more responses.

28: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:44

Speaking of Camille, it’s the switch from the Re-GZ to the Z, right!

29: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:46

It’s definitely Zigan.

30: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:46

I remembered that Super Robot Wars Alpha’s Z II seemed slim, and it really was slim.
I remembered that Super Robot Wars Alpha's Z II seemed slim, and it really was slim.

Unit Capability: Pilot Ability: Weapon Performance
ZII
HP: 4000/4000
EN: 120/120
Kamille
Level: 32
Morale: 105
NEXT: 298
Type: Ground
Movement: 6
Maneuverability: 120
Armor: 1300
Limit: 400
Size: M
Special Ability: Transformation
Terrain: Air B
Ground C
Sea C
Space A

31: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:47Yeahx2

I occasionally ride a Zetsu.
“Zetsu… huh.”

32: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:47

In the first place, there is no setting for it to be superior to Z.
The endosperm was originally a significant part of the novel’s setting.

46: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:01

>>32“The final destination of the Z plan is Superior.”

49: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:02

>>46Still a hassle to handle!

33: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:50

As expected, the mass-produced Z…

34: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:51

Z will be given to Lou Luca.

35: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:51

Zezeegan!

36: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:55

I don’t really care, but it feels strange to write “New Gundam” on a forum like this, what should I do…

43: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:00

>>36Isn’t there any discomfort with Zegan?

37: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:55

I think ZⅡ could have appeared in Super Robot Wars more.

38: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:56Yeahx1

I understand that it’s better to enhance the Z with things like the large beam saber or charge attack that were done in the original, rather than getting on the ZⅡ which has a subtle armament.

40: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:57

>>38Recently, even when there are surprise attacks, it’s a bit ambiguous…

75: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:14

>>38Well, this has been a standard for over 20 years now…

39: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:57

Instead, I learned Beam Confuse…

41: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:58

ZⅡ has a certain sleekness to it, doesn’t it?

42: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)21:59

It’s Gazi, right?

44: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:01

It should be established in a way that riding anything other than Mark Two and Z doesn’t feel out of place.

45: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:01

In G Generation, once the beam saber appeared as a awaken technique, it seemed like Z was essentially the strongest among the Z series.

47: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:01

Even the Hi-Nu can’t be treated as an upper version of the Nu, so it has to be careful.

48: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:02

Isn’t there something that is just for settings?
Like a full armor Z-Gundam.

62: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:09

>>48There is a work called “Super Warrior Gundam Guy.”
Sometimes model magazines create three-dimensional representations alongside the official history.
There were also moves that brought it closer to the official history, like Kyojiro’s Perfect Gundam.
In the end, it hasn’t really taken hold.

50: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:02Yeahx5

Well, there are also irritating people who stubbornly keep saying “old man, old man” about the 1st.

51: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:03

I thought I saw Zeta being used in some demo of GG, but it doesn’t suit it at all.

115: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:24

>>51This demo is famous, isn’t it?

52: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:04

There was something with a claw attached…

53: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:04

Isn’t there the Full Armor Z itself?

63: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:09

>>53Well then…

54: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:04Yeahx1

There was a time when the mass-produced New Gundam was essentially like the one for Kamille.

55: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:04Yeahx1

I don’t have a strong image of ZⅡ to begin with.

69: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:13

>>55That’s true, but having a lot of variety is better, isn’t it?
In the VS series, there’s also the concept of cost, and there’s likely demand for wanting to use characters like Kamille, the Major, or Setsuna at a low cost.

56: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:05

There is also no option to make the Double Zeta Camille’s machine.
Koji-kun had Great Mazinger, but…

57: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:05

It would be nice to have a powerful machine that inherits the concept of Z, but there probably isn’t one.

58: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:06

When it comes to Camille, it’s gotta be Beginning.

59: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:07

While Delta Plus could be considered a successor, it’s unlikely to be featured in Super Robot Wars.

60: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:08Yeahx1

>>59In 3Z, the early units are a bit questionable; Amuro and Kamille were using what they borrowed from Riddy.

61: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:08

New Gun
Zeegan
Negan

64: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:10

Double Zegan is great, right? It has a strengthened ultimate mode and stuff.

65: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:12

Z seems to have a characteristic of ultimately being a transformation machine.
Full armor tends to be treated differently, somehow.
ZZ is also a transformable machine, but the characteristic of ZZ is the Hi-Mega…

66: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:13

In the final stages, Camille gets angry, and the bio-sensor upgrades, often giving a boost to the status along with the addition of the Wave Rider charge.

67: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:13

Well, after the α side story, I’ve never thought it was weak since there are the counterattack High Mega Launcher and the Charging Butchikeri Beam Saber combined with the Space S.
It’s just not changing at all.

68: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:13

So, what? Should we just attach a Psycho Frame to the Zeta?

78: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:15

>>68Something bad is going to happen with Camille.

84: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:16

>>78Everyone will die nya.

70: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:13Yeahx1

I still understand new guns (dams), but…
I don’t understand Zeta Gundam…

71: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:14

ZZ often appears as a reinforced type in games.

79: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:15

>>71Sometimes I even fabricate the FAZZ’s hyper mega cannon and equip it.

72: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:14

What about Dubzeegan?

73: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:14

What are the higher-tier units in the Z series?

74: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:14

Right now, don’t write the red Gundam as “Akagan.”

76: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:14

Dubzeegan!?

77: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:15

The combined attack with ZZ that used to exist.
Now would be a good time to add a combination fusion technique with the Hyakushiki.
What are you doing during the operation, Captain?!

82: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:15

>>77The Gundam series is very strict about fabricated combination attacks.

85: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:16

>>82But in DD, Gray ν and Nightingale were basically doing a combined attack, right?

98: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:19

>>85Starting from a fight is amazing, isn’t it?

80: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:15

I have no choice but to add a technique that reproduces the novel version by throwing it into the light of the colony laser summoned and shot away with the psycho field.

81: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:15

Basically, Z is at the top level, and from there, the tree extends in a direction of how much lower the cost can be reduced.

92: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:18

>>81I think the development machine raised ZZ right after, so conversely, I can’t find any potential for growth.
Next to it, there’s also S→EX-S!

83: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:15

ν Gundam
V Gundam

88: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:16

>>83Aren’t we together?

99: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:20

>>88It’s complicated, isn’t it…?
So I’ll write a new gun…

86: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:16

Pulling the equipment variations of the social game UC Engage.
There was something about the guy with the i-field generator and shield blade, right?

87: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:16

The excessive number of Zegan derivatives is probably one reason why it is difficult to establish.

89: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:16

Z is like this.
It’s like the nuance of a classic car from days gone by.
It seems that the myth might be alive even for the engineers in the story.

90: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:17

There are some Super Robot Wars where you can use Zetus, but…
It’s not positioned as an enhanced version of Zeta.

96: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:18

>>90Alpha was stronger than Zeta.

91: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:17

Fans say that Z2 is stronger than Z.

94: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:18

>>91If it develops further and they can release something like Z3…

101: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:20

>>94Surpassing Zeta Gundam, even beyond Zeta Gundam!

93: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:18Yeahx2

I feel like the Rigaziy Custom, which is equipped with a biosensor, is a better option for switching from the ZⅡ.

100: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:20

>>93It’s not just a name, it’s essentially a complete new creation, so it’s no joke!

95: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:18

It seems like there was a conversation in “Char’s Counterattack” where they mentioned, “Amuro said he wanted the Z Gundam.”
I feel like I’ve seen something about this in anonymous conversations… I don’t know anything about the primary source, but I have the impression that Z is regarded as a great machine.

102: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:20Yeahx1

>>95It’s a line from the novel version.

110: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:22

>>95Just to be clear, there is a different novel version of Char’s Counterattack called High Streamer, where there is a scene where Amuro laments why he can’t use the Z.

97: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:18

Is it just me, or have the recent high mega launchers been quite disappointing in their power since the charge attack has become standardized?
It might be true that it wasn’t such a powerful beam weapon in the original work.

103: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:21

In the Gundam Versus, which is treated as a dark history, Z had the highest cost, and if you used occult power, things could somehow work out.

104: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:21

Breast cancer…

105: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:21

Now they’ve even named things like Tryzeeta and ZZ2 that seem perfectly suited for an official release in the build.

106: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:21Yeahx1

Since it’s a good opportunity, even if there’s a new machine in the game, I think it’s more visually impactful to have Camille going wild in the Zeta with its occult elements.

111: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:22Yeahx2

>>106Simply put, the mecha designer is handsome…

107: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:21

It’s a done deal, but when I asked the upper management for a Gundam, they refused, so is it okay if I independently place an order and use a Gundam, Amuro?

113: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:23

>>107That is why you are here.

108: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:21

The novel version is less about Z Gundam being amazing and more about how the Re-GZ is just really disappointing.

118: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:24

>>108The fact that the deformation is disposable is one thing, but it seems bigger without the high mega launcher attached.

109: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:22

It would be fine to strengthen the aircraft as it is by reinforcing the generator with feedback from the later model.

112: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:23

The ReGZ is not an officially developed machine; it’s just a personal modification by Amuro, so it’s a different thing altogether.

114: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:24

Since Z itself has a lot of armaments, in a game, you can make it as strong as you want by combining it with the occult.

116: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:24

To be honest, I think most people who say Z wanted Amuro are not reading High Streamer.

117: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:24

Honestly, ν isn’t really that strong of a machine in terms of its settings.

119: Japan Otaku Reviews25/06/10(Tue)22:24

Are you going to ride the Valcion?

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