
But since we’re siblings, we should get along better!
(Bombing)
Isn’t it just the eldest son and eldest daughter who have a bad relationship?
Dozur and Garma were the ones who got caught up in it…
I wonder what the balance of power would have been if Sasu-ani had been alive.
Gilbert is the bad one.
We get along well, but when it comes to important matters, it’s like we’re not saying everything clearly or being open, which has caused complications.
>>6The crossing paths seen in the Universal Century is more familiar than a parent’s face.
Gihren wasn’t particularly ruthless towards his younger siblings either.
If all the Zabi family were Newtypes, we could understand each other through esper powers.
As a result of understanding each other, it seems that if we let this guy live, it will just start a fight to the death.
>>9It’s no good with Amuro and Char, you know?
Regardless of Kicilia, Dozle, and Garma, it’s better to kill Gihren, right?
>>10That guy embodies the evil of Zeon the most, so even if we don’t annihilate the Zabi family, we really have no choice but to kill Ghyren.
It was said that due to the assassination plan for Gihren, Saslow would eventually come into conflict with Gihren as well, so I think it was a three-way struggle.
I don’t think Giran has much hostility towards his siblings.
There is Degin.
Newtypes just talk honestly about everything.
If the Zabi family talked about everything honestly, it would just lead to “Go die.”
>>13In other words, it’s precisely because there are old-type people as the foundation that we can be new types, which is special…
Even if everyone becomes like Camille and Scirocco, we will fight to kill each other more fiercely until the very end.
Garma is not as scary a person as they say he is.
>>14Killing half of humanity is terrifying no matter what kind of support you get!
>>293In reality, that tagline in the opening isn’t such a big issue for the inhabitants of that world.
It’s surprisingly someone else’s problem for those other guys outside of that side.
>>303Of course, what’s left is Side 3, the parties involved, Side 6 which wagged its tail at Side 3, Side 7 which has just begun to settle, and Earth and the Moon.
The Moon is under the control of Zeon, and Earth is in chaos; only Earth has the right to complain about that.
>>303Half of humanity has been killed, but it seems that neither side has been completely annihilated, and there are quite a few survivors from both sides who have joined the federal army, so some federal soldiers are filled with murderous intent towards Zeon.
The appearance is the worst, but the contents are the most decent.
>>16The ORIGIN version was broken by the guilt of colony drops, which is painful.
>>16It’s what you would call gap moe now.
In The Origin, wasn’t Dozle really angry with Gihren and Kshyria?
I don’t really understand why Gihren and Kycilia are in conflict since I entered through Zieg Ax.
>>19Differences in Zionism
If I had to choose whose subordinate in the Zabi family I would like to be, it would be Dozle.
This person has a mentality more like a warlord from the Warring States period rather than a ruler of a dictatorial nation.
With this face all scarred up and thorns growing out from my shoulder, yet having a decent inside.
Kecilia is definitely problematic as an individual, but as a leader, she still has more room for negotiation than Ghiren.
Dozle seems to have a good understanding with the Zabi family, but if emotions get complicated, it could also be the most troublesome.
>>25Even though he is excellent as a soldier, he is quite incompetent as a commander.
The White Base sent in the Garma revenge squad one after another, significantly reducing the weapons across the Earth.
The fact that Garma is still alive has a significant impact on Zeon’s advantage in the Battle of Jaburo.
>>25In other words, throughout the first installment, Dozens has been twisted by his feelings towards Char, which leads to unnecessary losses of troops.
It looks cool to fall apart at the last moment, but until then, it can only be described as foolish.
Kshyria’s pride and self-esteem are too high!
The story goes that Giden intended to unify space with Giren and Sasro, so aside from his own intentions, he is definitely a staunch supporter of Giren.
To be honest, I don’t really intend to kill Dozle at this point, but I’m also okay with dying together.
It feels like the older brother doesn’t dislike his younger sister that much.
I think it’s not just Dad that the eldest son dislikes…
>>29That’s true.
Moreover, I think Gihren liked Degwin until Degwin started to waver.
Degin is bad.
>>30Even so, doing something like advancing the launch time of the Solar Ray just to increase the chances of missing means that Kycillia ends up killing you at that timing.
>>308If we don’t get rid of that, then Zeon will be in complete chaos there.
Origin is too evil for Kishiria.
“Become mutually in love with Char like Zieg Aks.”
>>31This is no joke!
We really don’t have a bad relationship.
It seems like my eldest daughter assassinated my second son.
The eldest daughter and the eldest son are on bad terms.
The eldest son passively abandoned the third son.
The father was not pleased with anything the eldest son did.
The eldest son had his father killed.
Just because the eldest daughter killed the eldest son.
We’re not really on bad terms.
>>32It’s tougher than King Lear.
There is something wrong with Degwin going out for peace negotiations without consulting anyone.
>>36There’s no room for defense in the fact that they haven’t even communicated with Kycillia, let alone Gihren.
It’s only natural to think, “Isn’t it the case that someone other than Ghiren is trying to end the war by losing it on their own?!”
>>46Hmph, you’re getting old, I’ll kill you.
I think that’s just too psychotic, after all.
>>53I’m getting old, but if I don’t crush you here, I have no choice but to kill you because I’ll lose.
>>315I think Kishiria’s opinion is that there was an opportunity to restrain, but it was done on purpose to kill.
>>46The public officials, the king and the prime minister, are discussing this matter.
>>46The politicians and government officials of Side 3, who later became the government of the Principality of Zeon, supported Degwin’s peace negotiations at that time.
>>46Well, it’s a monarchy, so the continuation of the war is decided by the king’s wishes.
In a democracy, it is the will of the civil officials, and fundamentally, military personnel are not given decision-making authority in that regard.
Giren only took the necessary measures to realize that Degwin was trying to usurp Dykun’s position and declare Side 3’s independence.
>>37The fact that my son died in battle one after another shattered my heart, and besides that, there was also a fear that if things continued like this, it wouldn’t just be a war between nations in response to Gihren’s question, “What will you do after winning?”
>>327When I asked if there was a vision for the future after half the population died in the war caused by my son, he said it was a good chance to reduce the population, which is just too frightening, Gireen.
Get shot from behind.
Even if it wasn’t what you wanted, was your relationship with Girelle such that you would kill your father?
>>38My dad let Revil escape at the worst possible time.
My dad suddenly started talking about peace negotiations at the worst possible timing.
Why are you doing such a terrible thing… I have no choice but to kill you now…
>>38They were full of intent to continue the war, yet they acted unilaterally to pursue peace, so it’s no surprise if they get killed.
>>52“I was told by my sister that since I had grasped the movements, I could have stopped them without killing.”
>>38Degwin seized power from the Daikun faction and ruled over Side 3, inheriting the cause of Space Novoid independence and taking on the will of the people of Side 3.
In other words, the war started because of Degwin.
While I was drawing a picture of Degwin winning with a solar ray, I independently began peace negotiations (which should have been an unconditional surrender in terms of timing).
100% traitor to the country
>>38“You look like Hitler!” I was told…
>>71It’s really funny that Giren doesn’t realize he’s a dictator.
The thread image also gives off a good person aura, but they are the perpetrator of the British operation…
>No.1320815188Far from being on bad terms, this is a relationship diagram of rival organizations.
It’s all a story that Deggin started, after all.
Deggin, who tried to throw that away, is worthless; it’s no surprise he got shot by the solar ray.
I think Dozle is suited for a company commander or at most a battalion commander, but since he was born into the Zabi family…
Solomon was pretty much a victim of the Solar System after sending the Dom.
What Dozul said was just male pride; he didn’t request support from Granada.
>>43The start of the solar system’s irradiation and the destruction by meteor missiles were just a matter of timing, so by the time they moved, it was too late. The ten Dom units, which could operate from the very beginning of the war, had a better possibility of early detection of the solar system compared to Big Zam.
>>348In the first place, I think the intention behind sending out the Big Zam was not to deal with things this way, but rather to let it rampage while making an escape when things get serious.
Degwin → Garma is cute
Giren → The old father will be utilized effectively.
Douzle → It would be shameful to be helped by Kishiria.
Kishiria → All brothers are enemies, and even the father is an enemy in Origin.
Garmar would abandon his family for Iserina.
Kishiria’s vision of what she wants to do once she becomes the top of Zeon is not really portrayed much.
>>45It feels like I’m acting on the emotion of not wanting to lose to my brother Gilen!
Dozuru is someone who listens to others, so if he has an excellent advisor by his side, he should be able to succeed as a leader.
There are no such individuals in Zeon.
Is Duke Deging still alive in Ziek Axes?
>>48If it hasn’t been burned by a solar ray, it should be alive unless it has died of old age.
Even if they appear more than Garma, I feel like they wouldn’t have any role, so they probably won’t show up.
After getting rid of Daikun, now they’re just repeating infighting among themselves.
With this, it’s unrealistic to expect refinement from a space pirate.
The fact that only Gundam-san depicts “the time when we used to get along well.”
And the fact that it wasn’t resolved in a gag parody timeline.
“If someone who said ‘We’ll fight to the last as a united nation against the federation’ suddenly starts peace negotiations on their own, that’s just betrayal.”
>>54Moreover, if we shoot here, it will significantly bring us closer to winning the battle, so putting aside things like family ties, there’s no reason not to shoot.
In the first place, since we ended up losing, continuing the war was the wrong decision.
>>57There is a way to lose.
In historical fact, the solar ray was unleashed, and the Federation was torn apart, resulting in a favorable conclusion for Zeon.
The Federation, ecstatic after breaking through Solomon, is engaging in negotiations and can’t complain about any unequal treaties formed; it’s a kowtowing diplomacy.
>>68Historical fact!?
>>74They didn’t even get proper compensation, and Geonic was not taken over for free but purchased instead, plus a republic was established, so it seems like half of the original independence plan was realized.
The Side 3 has a huge advantage in the ceasefire agreement of the One Year War.
>>85Since I can’t pay the compensation, I’ll offset it by buying out other companies like Zionic.
Some AE jumped in to purchase, and I ended up with enough money to spare.
>>68It’s the other way around.
I think the Federation side can make peace at that timing because there are still forces left on the Zeon side.
>>395Revil is boosting his confidence by defeating Zeon in the solar system, and on top of that, he has superior numbers, so there’s no reason to accept anything other than unconditional surrender.
>>405The peace negotiations after the fall of Solomon are in line with Jaburo’s mole, and since Revil agrees with it, Revil’s confidence or anything related doesn’t matter.
In other words, Revil is the top of the military orders, but not the top of the politics.
>>464Since he has effectively shut down a previous lecture, Revil is basically the top.
>>469It’s just that he said there were no troops in Zeon, and that led to a full-scale resistance.
>>68If we’re talking about how to lose, historically, it’s Nazi Germany, but what Degwin tried to choose was Italy, right?
>>404It’s not the Nazis, right?
If it were the Nazis, it would already be a complete defeat with total occupation, and it’s impossible for the military to not acknowledge the loss.
It’s Germany in World War I.
The military still thinks they can do it, but the government has already decided to stop.
>>68The official history does not depict a peace favorable to Zeon, and since A Baoa Qu has fallen, the path to the motherland of Side 3 has been opened, leading to a completely checkmated situation.
Because I shot and killed the supreme leader of Zeon, Degwin, and the supreme commander of the Federation, Revil, at the Geldorba line during the peace negotiations.
Gihren is a war criminal even if he is alive, and the extreme oppression of Space Noids by the Titans after the war was also tolerated.
It cannot be denied that the cause might be the solar flare.
The official history does not involve a peace settlement favorable to Zeon, and since A Baoa Qu has fallen, the path to the mother country of Side 3 has been opened, leading to a completely checkmated situation.They recognize something like a republic, and since they haven’t even been able to take over Zeon, it isn’t advantageous for the Federation either.
I’m only making money from the seminar, but I’m forced to buy Zionic and it’s putting me at a loss.
Because I shot and killed the Zeon supreme ruler and Federation supreme commander Degwin and Revil who were at the Gelldorva line during the peace negotiations.Giren is a war criminal even if he is still alive, and the extreme suppression of Spacenoids by the Titans after the war was allowed to happen because of that.>>450If we hadn’t done it, there would have been unconditional surrender.
>>459The conclusion that recognizing the republic favors Zeon is utterly mistaken.
I can only call it foolish to say that it’s a good thing we weren’t completely wiped out because we were invaded in Side 3.
It’s not a lecture, it’s a peace treaty.
>>476Well then, please explain what you mean by disadvantage.
>>57Gihren says that winning the war is fine, and that it’s acceptable for the people of Zeon to die in any number; in fact, it’s better if they die.
If we can definitely take out Revil over there instead of Degwin, we’ll do it.
>>58It seems that if it weren’t for the Gerldorva targeting, they could have taken out half of the Federation fleet, so which is better…
>>86As long as Revel is alive, the Federation will never surrender, so I absolutely want to kill him.
>>97I feel like the number of losses will probably be compensated by Raebill’s strategies while he is alive.
Or I feel like the Psycho Gundam might charge in and the Zong might get killed.
>>58It was lucky to have killed Revil, but it wasn’t a guaranteed kill.
Well, at least this is a case where you should have properly consulted in advance.
Does Deggin dislike Garen?
>>59Would I say something like “Hitler’s tail” to the girl I like?
If the eldest son and daughter had died in an accident, the Zabi family would have been safe.
Well, if you’re going to be so scared of the Federation, you shouldn’t have sought independence in the first place…
The Gerudo targeting really worked wonders, you know…
Even if Operation Star 1 fails, it’s questionable whether we could have taken Granada.
>>6330% of the Federal Space Fleet vanished in an instant.
The newly established Jim Cannon unit that was directly under Revel’s command has also been wiped out…
If Kycilla hadn’t killed Gihren, I think it would have lasted a bit longer.
>>65I think there will just be more decisive battles in the Zeon mainland.
Why does Kshiri dislike Dozle, aside from disliking Gihren…?
>>67I hate everyone who looks down on me or treats me like I’m nothing.
>>67Kycilia just wants to be number one, so everyone above her is a hindrance.
I became a Degenza Great.
Giren’s ideology is dangerous.
Kishiria’s subordinates are dangerous.
Isn’t it mostly because of the Kishiria organization that Kishiria is treated like a dangerous person?
If Degwin had passed away suddenly before the war started, things might have turned out differently.
It’s unforgivable for a radical father to become weak the moment his cute son dies.
But what about my younger sister?
Giren’s ideology is crazy, but it’s not really clear why Kishiria is opposing him even though she’s not necessarily against his thoughts.
Rather, it was only Gihren who was shocked by Dozle’s death; the others were too indifferent.
>>83It’s not that he’s cold; everyone except Gihren thinks that by sending the Big Zam to Dozle in that situation, Gihren is essentially telling Dozle to die at Solomon.
>>416Kishiria received instructions from Girell to dispatch a fleet to Luna II to rescue Dozle.
Deguin thinks that Dozle won’t follow Giren’s orders, so that’s not the case.
It’s hard to tell if Kshyria really cared for Garma.
>>84I feel like it’s more accurate to say that there was no need for caution because they weren’t a threat in terms of ability rather than just being fond of them.
Kishiria doesn’t really operate from a big-picture perspective, does she?
Dozle died because he was easy to kill and had popularity.
>>88I told you to stop, but you come to the front line right away.
Kisia is a fool who, after killing her brother at a ridiculous moment, tried to escape using her allies as pawns and ended up being killed herself.
>>89Because that cute shota from back then has grown into a handsome guy.
You want it, right?
If peace had been made with Degwin at that timing, both Gihren and Kisyiria would have been dragged along.
With a difference said to be 50:1 in national power, if we can win against 50 while further dividing that 1 into four parts and pulling each other down, then we could do anything we want in this world.
It’s too late to deal with Revil at this timing…
As expected, it would have been best to kill Revil at the point of capture…
>>94If Kishiria hadn’t let him go, the war would have ended under overwhelmingly favorable conditions for Zeon, so killing him is out of the question.
It seems that Gihren has more power to unify democracy than Kecilia, but he is too hawkish and Zeon might become a more radical group and ultimately end up being assassinated somewhere.
The problem is that it’s hard to understand what Kishiria’s ultimate goal is.
He is originally a loving person towards his family, but it’s somewhat unfortunate that he has settled into a proper sensibility now that he is married and has children.
It seems like if Kiryia and the others had supported Dozle as much as Giren did, they could have won…
Isn’t Garma relatively normal?
>>100You’re just a spoiled brat and have no decent qualities, Garma.
The big shots of the Earth are only pretending to comply because they can’t see reality.
>>103No, rather it’s a dangerous guy who, despite dropping a colony, seems like he could solidify his position by marrying into the local government.
>>112Since Colony Drop has turned New York into a pile of rubble, there is no choice but to outwardly submit.
>>100I think the person is good, but the nails look ridiculously sweet, so ultimately, I think they are not great as a top.
Kisilya is treated as a good person just for the fact that she killed Gihren.
>>101He’s a nice person who gives money to a squad that he doesn’t really understand!
>>116No, the Zabi family is just garbage.
>>121If Giren hadn’t died there, there was a possibility of a comeback, so he’s really the culprit.
>>153I mean, if the command hadn’t been thrown into chaos because of that, we would have won, so it’s seriously impressive how stupid it is.
>>171That’s not true.
The defeat is just postponed a little bit.
>>174After the Solar Ray was successfully used in the first main story, it was advantageous for Zeon until Gihren’s death, so they would have won under Gihren’s regime.
>>174Since we’ve lost quite a bit of federal forces at the timing of the patricide, we should be able to go for peace talks.
>>174For the time being, if it ends with Zeon in the lead there, it will just be a ceasefire…
At that point, almost all of the Federation’s space forces that had entered A Baoa Qu were involved.
Kisilya, who tends to be overlooked, is so worthless that even Char gets angry.
After the terrorist attack, the eldest brother was also concerned about Dozle…
It makes me think that Dozle and Garma really have a good relationship.
It’s nothing new that Cassilia has a strong sense of personal motives driving her actions.
I think Garma will be promising if he becomes able to accept both good and bad a little more.
It looks good, so we can expect idol-like popularity as well.
If it weren’t for killing Garma, perhaps Shara would have been a bit better off…
>>113But it was a rare opportunity for the Zabi family’s collapse…
>>113What is “mashi”?
>>113That’s why Mineva wasn’t killed.
What are you using as a tool for political strife…! Die! Quattro Punch!
>>113The timing to kill has come, and since I’m infiltrating the Zeon army for revenge against the Zabi family, if I don’t take my revenge, I’ll be left wondering what my life has been until now…
In the main story, I wasn’t as close to the green uncle as that.
>>113Because you’re a boy…
From Gihren’s perspective, it feels like they’re just reinforcing Degwin’s tracks.
They didn’t even have the strength left to take down Side 3, so they couldn’t have a decent discussion.
The Federation is completely taking advantage of us.
>>115Well, the side of Side 3 had been taken over by the Daikun faction, supported by Kshyria, who staged a coup.
It seems that the level where Dozul can assist by anticipating Garma is the most balanced.
However, while it might be true that Garma and Dozle can’t fully govern, Garma is stabilizing security in North America, so there are some unpredictable aspects.
Is there anyone watching a different world’s Universal Century?
Is it Lalah?
Duzuru may be the most decent among the brothers in terms of personality, but he seems to naturally look down on his sister.
If there was no chance to kill Garma, I really want to kill the Zabi family someday, and I don’t know when that desire to kill the Zabis might suddenly explode…
What does “mashi” mean?
As a loyal servant of the Zabi family?
The Zabi family finally felt somewhat balanced when they were all together, so the deaths of Garma and Dozle were critical.
Who started colony dropping?
Well, they didn’t even send such military force to Abawaku, let alone Solomon.
Why is that purple old lady the only one here?
What’s up with Char, who was all hyped and excited until he was about to kill, but then got depressed shortly after killing Garma?
>>130Rather, it’s simply that he has been dismissed from a position akin to Duzel’s right-hand man, so he’s just bored.
Oops, Garma chance!
Hah…
Garma has foresight.
Because I’m trying to make a monkey pilot an MS.
And that’s when it awakens to NT.
>>132It’s not official.
Kissiria itself lacks ideology and politically endorses Gireen, so it’s not ideologically problematic, but because her desire for power is simply abnormal, Kissiria is a dangerous person in a different sense than Gireen.
>>133I feel that people who are driven by power without any underlying ideology are the most dangerous type to become politicians.
Char was pretending to be conciliatory towards the Federation in “Char’s Counterattack,” but secretly he was sticking out his tongue.
Garma wasn’t close to the Earth people just because of his tricks.
>>134The naive Iserina is only being led around by her looks, and the older men are secretly mocking Garma.
Is it true that Galkax is still alive after all?
>>136Ran away together and left it as it is.
>>145When Char was recruited into the Assault Mobile Force, he said it was like being assigned to babysit Garma.
It seems like they’re in a location that Zeon is aware of.
By the way, isn’t Gundam UC becoming unofficial?
Sasuro with a childlike appearance of Dozle and Giren.
>>138Has the evil energy arrived?
It seems there were times when the naive Garma acted as the brake.
Char himself might be erased if he doesn’t eliminate the Zabi family; it’s a dead or die situation.
I think the reason for Gihren’s death is that he’s someone who is preserving his own military strength amidst the political struggles after the war, and if he wins regardless of Kshyria, there is a possibility that he will be attacked from all sides.