
Ando Masaomi @miozin35 Ah, I feel like I’ve figured out the true nature of this excitement on X. We are currently experiencing the “2ch discussion board during the original airing of Evangelion” in real time. I couldn’t experience that space when I was a real junior high school student without a computer. I’m reliving it… (As expected, this is the Human Complementation Project.) Okamoto Yuu @okamotolynn·1 day The enjoyment I feel from the Zeke Axis includes the discussions and tidbits about X the following day, so I don’t know if it will still be enjoyable years later. However, it’s a rare thing to receive so much enthusiasm even amidst disputes, so I plan to dance as much as I can while I can. I might regret it later if the ladder is pulled away… June 5, 2025 12:54· 1.34 million views
It’s not even a suspicious world.
There was just barely enough computer communication.
There is still no vase.
>>2I think that’s a bit much…
Stop pretending to be a fool.
>>2I think it wasn’t just at the end of the broadcasting of Eva, but rather during its peak.
When the official Gainax of Nifty was making a big fuss every week.
The 2chan forum probably started to gain momentum around the Toshiba complaint incident, so I think it was around 1999.
However, I think the movement itself peaked around 1998, which is not the “Shin” theater, so it still feels like it was being discussed quite passionately.
Well, the idea of having a real-time commentary battle on 2ch is completely false.
2ch was created in 1999, right?
Evangelion’s 2ch opening was in 1999.
Therefore, the “2ch discussion board at the time of broadcasting” does not exist.
The peak of the jar is the Gundam, right?
>>7I took a quick peek at it back then, and it was amazing…
>>8The current criticism of the Giants’ coach is so mild compared to how harshly he was criticized before.
>>8The bulletin board back then was fun.
We were having a great time with a lot of collabs, but there were also some haters…
>>383I was watching Casmin on NHK, which was the competing program.
Is Neo Barley Tea from the year 2000?
>>10I remember that the broadcast of Love Hina was canceled on the day of the bus hijacking incident right after the anime started.
Since we were talking on Nifty Serve, it’s more like memory alteration or historical revisionism.
Back in the days of Eva, nifty was probably the largest company.
I was really excited about discussions on Dinosaur Planet and Gene Diver.
The energy of nif was amazing, so maybe that’s where the misunderstanding is.
At that time, it was amazing because the internet environment was just starting to become popular among middle and high school students.
By 1995, the internet was already in full swing…
>>16Having something and it being widespread are different things, something that fools can’t understand…
>>16Not at all energetic.
Why do you lie?
You’re the most annoying piece of shit, a lying idiot who doesn’t know reality at all. Seriously.
Back then, the internet in Japan was only properly operational at universities, some companies, and research institutions, so those who were knowledgeable about computers were still at a better level…
>>293Are you still not satisfied with the provocation?
>>16Well then, I’ll make the call.
>>319Don’t mess around, die.
>>16It’s the era of dial-up…
I want the ridiculous culture of “consideration” to finally perish.
It’s just a bunch of guys like the post-Okada Toshio.
The vase is newer than what today’s children think, and the seeds seem older than what today’s children think, creating a discrepancy.
The image I have is that Evangelion gained popularity from the late-night reruns.
I have never considered it.
It ends with something interesting.
Amezou
Wasn’t there a story about how director Anno was criticized excessively online during the time of the old Evangelion and received death threats?
Isn’t that a jar…?
>>23It’s perfectly reflected in the air.
Don’t blame everything on the pot, Anonymous!
>>23I received direct hits through letters and was graffitied by Gainax.
After all, this is the Human Complementation Project.
A little while ago, there was a thread on a site that compiles logs of BBSs for anime otaku that were active in the 90s.
There might be logs of such discussion threads over there.
What is that? It makes it seem like the thread image was a total noob back then.
>>26The person in the thread keeps following me and then unfollowing repeatedly, and I don’t really understand him well.
>>37If you unfollow at the timing you get followed back, you can make your following count >>> follower count, which would be cool.
>>26No, because I’m writing that I couldn’t experience it, so that’s correct.
It looks like a post that has the same vibe as what I experienced back then…
There wasn’t really any response at the time of the Eva broadcast, right?
It’s not like the sudden rise in word-of-mouth popularity was due to a re-broadcast or anything.
>>27The response since the first broadcast has been huge.
>>27No, not at all. It was one of those crazy anime that got hyped in Animage and was really exciting nationwide in real-time.
I could see it in the countryside too.
>>34I can’t watch it! It’s TV Tokyo!
…it was the last era when there were posts in anime magazines asking, “Please lend me a VHS.”
>>38I was also begged by a classmate from my hometown to send them a recorded video.
>>43I remember watching it while feeling sleepy, as it was broadcast around 5 AM on Saturday or Sunday, and I was absentmindedly watching Kaworu-kun die.
>>38Nostalgic… “Please lend me the VHS of Episode △ of XX.” That was in every issue, wasn’t it?
There was also a sense of buying and selling.
>>469Isn’t Miyazaki Tsutomu the one who borrowed things like that and never returned them, ending up on various blacklists?
>>27The only reason it became a topic among the general public was right after the final episode of the first broadcast.
It’s a really talked-about work from the very first episode.
In the early 90s, there were some people discussing various things on internet message boards, even though it was mostly among otaku.
Isn’t it simply that this person only knows the internet bulletin board 2ch, or is just mistaken and thinks it was 2ch?
Is there still no Sega BBS?
The level of civilization among the people in the jar is terrible, but that doesn’t mean that everywhere else is completely proper either.
>>33The bulletin boards on personal sites were mostly hell, too…
Leaving aside whether that can be considered an examination in a dictionary sense, I think the so-called “examination” itself isn’t bad.
It’s backward to say that the YouTuber is annoying like that critic.
I think it’s good to have fun speculating and wondering if that’s a foreshadowing or maybe if this is related to that.
The reason late-night reruns became popular is because of something called telehousing time.
>>39Since it has become a social phenomenon, that doesn’t matter.
That’s nice, isn’t it?
Evangelion Mystery Book Boom
Sources of information like Eva can be found in Newtype or Fanroad.
Right now, things that are trending on forums and X don’t exist, so instead, the popular attention is focused on noteworthy works.
I remember that it used to get exciting near the end of the broadcast and then be replayed late at night right after.
In Niigata, or somewhere, you can only see Eva in the prefecture from the top of a mountain that is about 1000 meters high.
On the day of the broadcast, did the fans really flock like a parade…? I wonder if that’s true.
This is a valuable example of a network bulletin board that has existed since 1986 and retains all its logs.
You can see the impressions and responses from when anime and games were released in the early 90s.
>>46Wow, it’s amazing that there are people who tried to preserve things like this…
The place I was watching has probably all disappeared by now…
>>46It’s already a cultural heritage.
>>46Is this article a thread or a response?
>>83It’s a response.
It should be noted with “Re:” in the title to indicate that this is a reply.
>>46Wow… If we save the logs, they might become historical documents in the future… but honestly, I don’t think anyone would keep logs for 30 years…
The capacity may be small now, but it’s a hassle to always back it up and transfer it every time I swap media…
Finally, it’s 2025 and it might have historical value? But around 2005 or 2010, it would probably just be seen as garbage, right? I feel like my feelings might waver about that.
I’m grateful for amazing people…
There wasn’t such a passionate online community at the time of the TV broadcast.
The nameless house probably barely had a monochrome mobile phone, if at all.
>>48…A monochrome mobile phone?
I feel like there was a time when personal homepages mostly had bulletin boards attached.
>>50Isn’t it a bit earlier than that?
>>50The internet was a more relaxed time, so the forums there felt more casual.
The online bulletin board was similar to today’s social media, so the sense of suffocation was quite unusual.
It’s the same with X, but I just can’t feel motivated at all.
I wish there was a way to deal with people who think the internet has always been just 2chan.
>>51For example, there probably aren’t any anonymous users left who can accurately recount the history of this place and the message boards, and even those who were there at the time likely have mixed memories.
That’s just how it is…
At that time, even though personal computers existed, they were being adopted by companies and schools, while only a limited number of individuals, such as tech enthusiasts, otaku, and researchers, owned them compared to now, right?
I remember that anonymous message boards didn’t exist, and interactions were limited to personal emails and chat rooms for a few people on BBSs that required login, which were very small and intimate…
>>54Do you not know about the Windows 95 boom?
>>60It was in the news, but even so, there weren’t many houses that people owned.
You know, it’s really not good to judge everything just based on news or fragments from that time, so you should stop.
In some parts of the city, that may be the case, but I think it’s crazy to believe that everyone had that level. If that were the case, the current elderly should be able to use computers a bit better.
>>87Wow…
>>102Young people don’t understand the feel of it, right?
>>54What are you saying…?
>>54In 1995, more than 5 million PCs were sold in a year…
>>54At the time of this broadcast, that’s not the case.
The personal computer itself became widely popular in households with Windows 95, and the spread accelerated even further with Windows 98.
In 1999, many middle-class families had personal computers.
Was the first airing of Eva a late-night broadcast?
It’s been said before that those who can’t enjoy themselves end up taking on the attacking role.
At the time of the broadcast, it wasn’t that exciting.
The final episode became a hot topic for being a complete mess, which sparked interest during its rerun and turned into a social phenomenon by the time the movie was released.
>>57Don’t respond from a parallel world.
It’s not about whether there was a jar back then, but more like what it would have been like if 2ch existed during the Edo period.
I was accessing electronic bulletin boards with a word processor.
“Otaku are so annoying.”
I’ve heard that Eva was indeed heavily debated in things like computer communications.
What comes to the general public are the mysterious books that used to be found at Village Vanguard.
When it comes to the excitement of discussions on message boards, the first thing that comes to mind is Higurashi.
Why was I casually over 40 when I was in the second year of junior high?
So this is the kind of understanding you have?
>>70What kind of perspective are you getting angry from?
It’s the era when NIFTY and PCVAN engaged in a bloody battle of ideas, right? I know, I know.
Telehopping has been around since 1995, after all.
Criticism based solely on “I think this way” is bullshit.
However, they boldly declare about freedom of interpretation and such.
>>79The concept of contemplation itself is originally something of that degree, right?
One should not make judgments based on such splendid and academic research as a premise.
I’m saying compared to now… Back then, it was 14.6% at the household level.What are you talking about?
>>80It’s totally less widespread compared to now, right?
Did you not understand?
>>82Why not stop adding to the shame?
Let’s honestly say sorry!
>>88The part where Noname-chan is silly for not responding with data when data is provided.
>>88You’re the one who says that computers were widely popular back then, adding to the shame.
>>82Do you know what a household is?
It’s at the level where 14% includes all the houses where grandpa is alone, so it’s like every otaku has it.
>>92That didn’t happen.
I’m sorry, but…
The line for Win95 was certainly amazing.
Looking back now, even if they say there will be a new release like 3.1, I can’t help but think it’s not something to look forward to that much.
I wonder if it became a hot topic like “It’ll be like a Mac on Windows!”
There are more people using exaggerated language these days…
Yeah… What are you talking about, even though I provided statistical data? Do you really think it’s going to work?
In the first place, the thread image is saying that they didn’t have a computer.
After I started using the internet, I heard that otaku were talking online back then, and I thought that there were also collectibles at that time.
It’s just a misunderstanding and not an intention to act knowledgeable or to distort history.
>>89Either way, it’s obvious that I’m being treated like a fool, but the classification is different, isn’t it?
>>105That’s too much…
It seems that my mom was responding with a character from a seed in a jar, but that sounds ridiculous!? Yet, considering the years, I can’t help but feel confused.
I also have memories of using events with handsome actors from Kamen Rider as an excuse to go out…
I remember that in the mid-90s when I was in elementary school, there was a service at the nearby Tsutaya where you could use the internet for 500 yen per hour.
There was also a place in front of the station where you could use the internet for 400 yen an hour… I used to go there a lot, bringing a bunch of floppy disks to search for CG.
A few years later, I was using the internet at home, so I guess it spread rapidly…
I didn’t have the image that computer communication was thriving during the Evangelion era.
Isn’t it an era where the OS has become comfortable?
I mean, my dad has a Mac, and I’ve been using it since I was in early elementary school.
I started interacting with others on the internet while staying at home since middle school.
Around 1998, I suppose…
It seems that YahooBB’s ADSL came out shortly after that.
>>95They were handing out CDs and modems to experience the internet in front of the station and all around…
I didn’t really understand the meaning back then because I was in elementary school.
>>95YahooBB’s ADSL has been since 2001.
In areas like Tokyo Metropolis, ADSL is faster in the early stages, but limited.
I followed Okamoto Rintarō’s tweets, and they are quite interesting.
It’s only natural that such a manga is drawn based on logic.
Why are you trying to compare the overall diffusion rate in society with the discussions that were heated among otaku on such bulletin boards?
If you say that, even Comiket has been a long-standing major event in the otaku world, but it’s not like a certain percentage of the entire society attends it.
Around the end of the bubble, PCs became essential in the business sector.
When trying to get a loan at the bank, they make you buy a PC.
“I was told, ‘Please do banking with this and the telephone line.'”
PC with 286 CPUs flooded the country like crazy.
It seems that there were quite a few people who had just started playing online games after spending time on DC…
>>101As expected, it’s really sparse!
In the early days of Win95, there were probably quite a few households with PCs that were not connected to the internet.
People who use it for Ichitaro or Excel.
It started with the spread of ADSL, didn’t it? Internet at home and such.
>>108The internet and the web are two different things.
If you’re going to argue, you should just provide the data…
By 1998, it was said that there was one per household (excluding households with only elderly people).
>>110It didn’t exist.
>>114Where was it said?
On what survey results can it be said that there was none?
If both sources are unknown, it will turn into an aerial battle in the fog.
>>123This battle… I will make it last.
>>131Don’t try to make continuing the respawn battle sound cool!
Windows 95 sold well, but until the widespread adoption of ISDN, the hurdles for the internet were still high.
I think it started in earnest around Windows 98.
Since the Internet was included in the top ten of the 1995 buzzword awards, can we say that it started to spread after that?
>>115In 1995, there were many ways of using it that were quite similar to a word processor.
Even if people say the internet is widespread, it’s stupid to say that everyone was doing it back in ’98!
>>115There was a time when we used to use the internet without using the word “internet.”
It uses its own connection software equipped with TCP/IP to connect to the Internet.
Things like calling it hyper something or gateway whatever.
With Windows 95 adopting TCP/IP, the term “Internet” became common.
The spread of the internet happened after YahooBB distributed it for free, right?
Teleho day started in 1995, after all…
It is true that Win95 became a boom and started to penetrate households from there.
It will still take some time before it feels normal for every household to have one.
>>120Around that time, computer classes started to emerge, and to be honest, it was an era when you couldn’t easily gather information from the internet like now, so you either had to learn or read books. People who think it suddenly became widespread are just foolish…
It became widely popular with Win98, but…
That is a story for middle-class families or above.
I think that for families in poverty, their impressions change depending on the environment in which they grew up.
It’s more like a conversation at school the day after the jump was released.
>>124“Krillin is dead! 111!”
I think back on how PCs have become more widespread not just for work or gaming purposes, but as more casual information devices.
It was around the time my cousin’s older sister, who was a college student, bought a Bombay Blue iMac.
In 1998 or 1999.
Not to mention Windows 95, the true widespread adoption of internet connections started around the introduction of ISDN to ADSL, so it shifts to around Windows 98.
>>126Whether or not you can connect to the internet is just a matter of whether the modem is equipped or not, so the situation is a bit different.
Looking back, the time from dial-up to the start of ADSL was surprisingly short!
I think I started to feel that I could comfortably use the internet at home from the early to mid-2000s.
Is it a misunderstanding that it was not me who was doing it, but that Eva was probably exciting the discussion board?
Well, I can just about forgive it.
In times like this, reading Kochikame might help you understand the sense of the times.
I’m not familiar with Kochikame, so I don’t know how Ryo-san was using the internet in the mid-90s.
Many people might have their first internet experience with their father’s Win95 PC.
>>134That’s the kind we have here.
Although it deviates from the broadcast period, I was voraciously reading Eva FF.
I believe the fastest device that allowed the general public to access the internet relatively cheaply was the Dreamcast.
When we were playing Chu Chu Rocket on the Dreamcast, using the internet on home computers hadn’t really become widespread yet, right?
>>138At that time, it was quite widespread.
>>138I think it was just before it started to become widespread.
Whether it’s pay-as-you-go or flat-rate is really a big deal.
>>138I think it was as widespread as what we now call a gaming PC.
In other words, it means that only those who are really motivated have it.
>>158That’s how it feels, right?
>>158That’s true.
I think it might be less than now.
In an era where you can only learn how to use things through books or word of mouth, it’s ridiculous to say “It became incredibly popular like this in ’95!” when you were a kid who didn’t know any better at the time… If you go back in your mind to a time before it was common for information to pop up online, it becomes clear right away…
>>168It’s quite disgraceful for an old man to respond harshly while saying that only kids don’t know that era.
https://www.maple.town/bbs/194/l/0001-0051/
On the site above, you can see the logs from the broadcast of Evangelion here.
It feels like there’s quite a bit of excitement around various discussions and analyses.
Of course, this is likely just a part of it.
There was a casual computer that was kind of transparent, right?
>>140I was wondering if that’s the group that had their computers early.
I started with the next iMac.
The internet that can be said to be generally common for the average person started with i-mode.
Even that had a bit of a lag from the service launch (in 1999) to its spread.
It’s unimaginable that PCs were so widespread that anyone could just use them and connect to the internet.
>>141That way of saying it seems likely to create a misunderstanding…
If you want to, anyone can touch it and connect to the internet, and that was the state before 1998 (there were no high technical hurdles).
It became popular in the sense of wanting to actually try it after 1998.
Aren’t we all repeating the story separately with discrepancies since a while ago?
I feel like it was called computer communications until it became widespread.
>>142My hobbies include things like internet surfing and nostalgic words.
A fan of Higurashi who gives the middle finger to commentary YouTubers.
It’s funny that they didn’t delete it even though it’s just a fake.
It feels like a dung beetle here.
I wonder if the personal homepage and BBS started around 1996.
When was the Internet Expo?
It’s during Prime Minister Mori’s time, right?
I like this anime director, but the occasional lapses in detail are a minor flaw.
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Well, as shown in the graph here, even around 2004 it was finally at 55.2%.
It will be after that when any household will be able to use the internet.
The serious internet old generation is
There are quite a few people who seriously hate the jars, so mixing them up is a hassle.
>>154I don’t know if you lost in a debate or if your shop or your family’s shop went under due to false rumors, but it’s probably just misplaced resentment anyway.
The fact that something has spread or not is just everyone’s personal opinion, isn’t it?
I think it’s fair to say that there was widespread adoption since the total number of subscribers for Nif and VAN in 1995 was 2 million.
>>156It’s not something that is almost in every household.
In addition, it’s foolish to judge based on the number of subscribers as companies use several.
>>157??
>>157Is PCVAN for corporate users?
>>157Services like Nifty provide unused lines from companies to individuals at a low cost, so there are no corporate contracts.
Seeing the figure of 14.6% for the penetration rate
Only a limited number of people have it.
Recognizing it as a trap of % is too much of a pitfall.
Transparent computers have models where the windows move and others that are fake and don’t move.
>>163Sotec is the knockoff, right!
I think it really became widespread around the time of Windows 98.
I have memories of corresponding with a girl I’m unfamiliar with on PostPet, realizing that even those who don’t seem interested in PCs are using the internet now.
I feel like in the old days, if you were a child from a wealthy family, you had internet access.
Isn’t the key point whether discussions and impressions were thriving among internet otaku, rather than the adoption rate itself?
It’s meaningless to respond with “I think it’s popular because otaku were using the internet there” without defining what you mean by “popular,” when I think it’s not popular because not everyone in general households is doing it, right?
>>167Even at that time, there wasn’t much communication going on over the internet.
In the first place, the thread image is saying something completely wrong by claiming it was at the time of the broadcast.
>>182Well, it’s just a partial example above, but the logs from the discussion board during the broadcast are posted.
>>185Seriously, it’s just a very small part of that.
>>167There is no positive meaning in the response itself aimed at defeating the opponent…